If schools went to a full year schedule....

[UConnJack]

If schools across the country ever consistently went to a full year schedule, do you think DVC would adjust their point charts to reflect new peak times (e.g., different school break seasons)? I know they reserve the right to do this, but they haven't changed much since DVC started, even though DVC travel habits seem to be out of skew with the point charts (i.e., high early December bookings, lower summer bookings, etc).

What would be great is if every school system developed their own full-year semester system, keeping breaks random across the country, and finally doing away with this stupid spring and summer break schedule that really hampers family travel.

[rantnnravin]

are you suggesting that i work year round??
them's fightin' words:lmao:

[starbox]

What would be great is if every school system developed their own full-year semester system, keeping breaks random across the country, and finally doing away with this stupid spring and summer break schedule that really hampers family travel.

If schools did adopt a balanced schedule - it would likely vary from system to system slightly - much in the way that spring break currently varies. I don't see how point values could be adjusted much. Chrsitmas, Easter, and Thanksgiving will always be insanely popular times to travel.

The schedule would likely look something like this:

August - Start date at some point
October - 1-2 Week Break at some point
December - 2 Week Break
February - 1-2 Week Break at some point
April - 1-2 Week Break at Some point
June/July - 6-8 Week Break.

(and as a career teacher - I would LOVE something like this!!!)

[UConnJack]

are you suggesting that i work year round??
them's fightin' words:lmao:

Uh-oh, didn't realize the teacher's union was watching! But why not, I do......;)

But seriously, I don't mind the length of the school year (should maybe be a little longer), I just think the current 2-3 month summer vacation system is very limiting. Spread the vacations over the whole year with a 3-4 semester system with 1-month vacations between. And don't make them consistent across all school system/states, randomize them a bit.

[dianeschlicht]

Uh-oh, didn't realize the teacher's union was watching! But why not, I do......;)

But seriously, I don't mind the length of the school year (should maybe be a little longer), I just think the current 2-3 month summer vacation system is very limiting. Spread the vacations over the whole year with a 3-4 semester system with 1-month vacations between. And don't make them consistent across all school system/states, randomize them a bit.

Not only very limiting in that way, but with the 2-3 month break students forget so much, that teachers spend at least a month or two in review just trying to get them back to the point they were at when summer break started.

I have always thought that year round school with 2 week breaks between quarters would be an excellent solution for both problems.

Now, as to the OP's original premise. While DVC can rearrange points, they can't change the total number needed. We saw a slight adjustment in the past at OKW, but if they reduce at one date, they have to add at another so the total stays the same. As far as having the vacation dates change by district, that will always be mandated by each individual state, and I don't believe we want THAT much additional federal government!:rolleyes1

[jenny2]

We're moving to NC this weekend and the county we're moving to has adopted a full year schedule starting the 2007-2008 calendar. There are 4 "tracks" of kids, and everyone goes to school for 9 weeks and then gets 3 weeks off (plus holidays, Christmas break and spring break). Every 3 weeks a new track starts so at any given time there are only 3 tracks of kids in school and 1 track on vacation... or "tracked out."

We weren't sure how we felt about this when we first discovered this change was coming, but as our kids are young (preK and 1st grade) and won't really miss the long summer vacation... we now are fully supporting this change!! No matter what track the kids end up on, we'll end up with vacations that aren't typical of the traditional school vacations. We can keep going to WDW in the off season (which from my sig you'll see is our fav, lol) and won't have to take the kids out of school to do it (though I have no problem taking them out for a week for vacation ;) ) We won't have to keep the kids busy through the long summer vacation either. And because the whole county is changing, there is plenty of 3 week daycare options for people who need it (we don't as my in-laws are with us and can watch the kids).

As for the OP's question... I'm not sure what DVC would do if more counties took this approach to scheduling. I suppose if it drastically changed how DVCers vacation they have the right to switch around the points & seasons... they probably would do that. But I think it would take a lot of changes for that to happen!

[rantnnravin]

The schedule would likely look something like this:

August - Start date at some point
October - 1-2 Week Break at some point
December - 2 Week Break
February - 1-2 Week Break at some point
April - 1-2 Week Break at Some point
June/July - 6-8 Week Break.

That's pretty much what exists now



(and as a career teacher - I would LOVE something like this!!!)
I'm just maintaining my amateur status so i can participate in the teaching olympics...
:lmao:

[3DisneyKids]

This has been discussed in our area, though not at any serious level. As an educator (college level), I think it is an awesome idea (for vacations as well as from an educational standpoint).

[Deb & Bill]

I know my elementary school did not have air conditioning up in the Chicago area. I don't think my high school or junior high did either. Year round school requires more infrastructure, more budget for utilities, more janatorial staff.

[rantnnravin]

spoken like a true DVCer
always thinking of maintenance fees...

[Good Ol Gal]

I know my elementary school did not have air conditioning up in the Chicago area. I don't think my high school or junior high did either. Year round school requires more infrastructure, more budget for utilities, more janatorial staff.

In Northern CA where my BIL/SIL are teachers they tried year round for four years.

They found that it cost more to run the schools because of having the utilites run 12 months a year, etc.

This year they are going back to the traditional school calendar.

They did not like the year round very much b/c they were not on the same track as each other.

So, basically BIL and niece were on track 1, SIL and niece were on track 2. YUCK!

If they could work something out where all family members were on the same track I would love it!

[Deb & Bill]

spoken like a true DVCer
always thinking of maintenance fees...

Actually, I am a hospital Engineer and I have to look at the infrastructure, utility bills, etc all the time.

[ilovepooh]

I would love year round school. As a school teacher, it would open up more dates for our family to go on vacation. Right now, it's summer, Easter, Christmas, or Jersey week.

I'd like to go during an off-peak time once in a while. :)

[Starr W.]

As a parent I think it would be a good idea. Our district has 2 elementaries that are not A/C, but that fix is on the next levy. I know the 4 elementary principals are all for it, but the board isn't crazy about it.


My accountant has that type of schedule at the Catholic school her girls go to. The only tweak they have made is that the Spring break isn't 2 weeks long. They take one midway through 2nd semester(early March) than another at Easter. They loved the fall break for WDW, but the eldest is in HS and they are on a more traditional schedule so it doesn't work anymore.

[dwelty]

are you suggesting that i work year round??
them's fightin' words:lmao:

Yes, Like the rest of us!

[rantnnravin]

hey
i should get combat pay for working with some of these kids! :darth: :lmao:
i need those few weeks to regroup:beach:

but seriously,
i wish i wasn't a slave to the school schedule for my own vacations but year-round school is cruel and unusual punishment:sick:
at least when DVCDL opens, we can go there in the summer instead of "sweatin' to the oldies" in FL...

[tedhowe]

Our oldest is turning 5 next month and will be starting kindergarten in the fall.

We have decided to send her to a charter school in our town that has extended school day and extended school year.

One of the things that I like about the school (although it isn't really a factor in deciding to send her there) is that there is an official policy regarding students' attendance and vacations during the school year.

There is only about an 8 week summer break - late June to mid August, but you can officially take your children out for up to 2 weeks of vacation during the school year with no impact on their attendance record (meaning they are considered excused absences).

There are some restrictions: vacations aren't allowed in the first 2 weeks of the term, during exams at the end of the term or during the schedule for mandated state standardized tests.

But overall the system seems very well thought out and reasonable and is indicative of what I like about the who charter school idea - be inovative, flexible and responsive to the needs of the children and desires of the parents.

Ted

[Mich Mouse]

Yes, Like the rest of us!

The "rest of us" made their choices...

Teachers may choose to make less $$$, but we do make a difference. And the bonus...vacation time!!!;)

[DisDaydreamer]

DW used to work in school and only got time off during traditional school times off. Always made for crowded vactions, but on the other hand really loved that summer time off. To answer your question, yes, Disney and all others in the tourism industry would have to adjust peak structures.

[Dean]

Some of our local primary and Middle schools went year round when my kids were in elementary school. It was a trial and didn't go over mostly because schools weren't prepared to pay staff year around. I was really hoping as it would have given up more flexibility for trips and the like. If it did happen across the country you'd likely see a little evening out but not much overall as there are other factors besides school outages. Plus the largest ones would still be the same like xmas, Easter, etc.

[loribell]

If schools did adopt a balanced schedule - it would likely vary from system to system slightly - much in the way that spring break currently varies. I don't see how point values could be adjusted much. Chrsitmas, Easter, and Thanksgiving will always be insanely popular times to travel.

The schedule would likely look something like this:

August - Start date at some point
October - 1-2 Week Break at some point
December - 2 Week Break
February - 1-2 Week Break at some point
April - 1-2 Week Break at Some point
June/July - 6-8 Week Break.

(and as a career teacher - I would LOVE something like this!!!)


I have actually began to think that it would be nice for the school year to be something like 9 weeks on & 4 weeks off. That would make it exactly 52 weeks and would fit in with how our schools do grading in Oklahoma. I'm not sure if that is how grading is done around the rest of the US though.

I always thought that year round schooling would be an awful idea, but with all of the headaches we have with school calendars these days and the fact that the teachers and kids both get tired of being there and with each other it is looking better to me all the time. Now if only I could convince our school system!

Lori

[Dumbo]

There is no air conditioning in my school district or in the neighboring districts. In fact I don't think schools in the Northeast have air conditioning.

Dumbo

[disney junky]

Since we're doing the old, I work year round and so should you....
I'll offer a bit of a different perspective on how I see education evolving over the next decade or so...incidently, we are already in the planning stages here at our school.
Virtual or cyber schools. That way the money stays in the home school districts. Offers flexibility of schedules. Here in Pennsylvania, the schools must by law allow the students to participate in extra curricular activities, sports, music and the like. If a student sits at home and works on the computer to complete classwork, he still is eligible to play on the school's basketball team tonight for a school he doesn't attend.
Achievement based or mastery based graduation. If students have achieved a certain level of performance as required by the state by the time they are 16, why hang around.
Technology is going to have a greater impact on school than anything else that's been tried to date.
We have had a small number of schools try the year round school; most have given it up. There are too many variables: industries that depend on the student employment (Hershey Park is nearby and would be devastated by lack of student workers), students who need jobs to save money can work full time for 10 weeks in row. It's hard to find a decent job where you would be paid for 2 or 3 weeks and then go back to part time.
I have never "needed" summers off, and I agree that the break is counterproductive to student learning if they do nothing over the summer to improve themselves. If material isn't practiced for six weeks, it's put in storage by the brain...some is forgotten.
I would point out that I am employed and paid for 190 days. I get three personal days per year (that number never changes whether I have taught one year or 20 years, though I can carry up to five). My employer shuts down over the summer. Essentially I get laid off...there is no work for me doing what I do, but I don't collect unemployment. It would be illegal for me to do so.
I have 200 points at BW. I have used them for one week long stay, one six day stay, one day, a long weekend, and coming soon, a long weekend in March. Pretty much all of these were at peak point times and they definitely all included those hefty weekend point values. But this is the path I chose. Someday.....
Even if they would change the school year and adjust the point values to fit a year round school year, I suspect that teachers would still be forced to use premium valued points....

[Kickapoo Joie Juice]

I wish we had school in the summer and the winters off.

That way my kids could be the worlds first elementary age Snow Birds...

[Mtnman44]

He He He popcorn::

Uh-oh, didn't realize the teacher's union was watching! But why not, I do......;)



I like the summer breaks so that a lot of people travel then which leaves much less crowding most of the rest of the year for us! We intentionally plan our trips AWAY from School Vacations. Just a personal preference, even though we do have a kid in school now.

[solgent]

When we bought in late summer 05 and our guide (Celeste) was explaning the point system, she said that the point totals had to stay the same but the point "prices" for different times of the year could change for example, if school systems starting going to year-round schooling. She specifically brought up the possibility of that change and stated that she expected the distribution of points across the year would be adjusted. Obviously, Disney has to think of things like that!

As for my opinion of year-round schooling, I am a university professor, so I like anything that causes my children's time off to coincide with my available time and I dislike anything that causes my children's time off not to match with my available time.

[graygables]

Yet another reason to e-school!:surfweb: We happen to also enjoy the traditional school calendar, so we can take the kids when it's NOT crowded.

As far as points go, I'd think they would have to restructure somewhat, but I can't imagine there ever being any kind of uniformity in school calendars nationwide that would impact those numbers.

[loribell]

I wish we had school in the summer and the winters off.

That way my kids could be the worlds first elementary age Snow Birds...

Seeing as how Florida seems to be the only place that is not freezing cold right now I sure wish we were back there being snow birds! We are now on our 4th day in a row of no school because of all our ice with no end in sight!

Lori