View Full Version : Are You A Disney Bigot?
Kickapoo Joie Juice
01-14-2007, 06:27 PM
Now before you pull out the popcorn boxes, let me explain!
I have friends and relatives that are of every ethnic persuasion, color, gender bias, and political leaning. Love 'em all!
However, I have discovered that I simply cannot be friends with, or even associate with, people who mock my love for Disney.
Co-workers who have ribbed me about my Christmas Mickey watch, hmm, they now hear about the important meeting fifteen minutes too late!
Relatives who ask "you're going to Disney AGAIN"? Novelty soaps and scalp ticklers for them for Christmas.
Really, who wants to put up with "those kind of people"!
Gradually, over the years, we've discovered that our circle of friends and family includes either other Disney Fanatics or people who have learned NEVER to Mock the Mouse in front of me:upsidedow
Anyone else?
mrsR123
01-14-2007, 06:31 PM
I prefer elitist or snob.
Kickapoo Joie Juice
01-14-2007, 06:40 PM
Yeah, but does bigot FIT the best?
big·ot (bĭg'ət)
n.
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
[French, from Old French.]
WORD HISTORY Bigots may have more in common with God than one might think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on Old French bigot meant “an excessively devoted or hypocritical person.”
snob (snŏb)
n.
One who tends to patronize, rebuff, or ignore people regarded as social inferiors and imitate, admire, or seek association with people regarded as social superiors.
One who affects an offensive air of self-satisfied superiority in matters of taste or intellect.
[Earlier snob, cobbler, lower-class person, person who aspires to social prominence.]
snobby snob'by adj.
The noun elitist has one meaning:
Meaning #1: someone who believes in rule by an elite group
Boardwalker
01-14-2007, 06:51 PM
I don't like the word bigot either.
I am a disney supporter, a disney fanatic, disney officianado? :cheer2:
But Kickapoo, look at it another way...:scratchin what if they are mocking you, not the mouse? :scared1: Any way you look at it, their negativity isn't work the pixie dust to turn them into toads. pixiedust:
We are who we are and the rest just don't get it. :thumbsup2 Know that you aren't alone and snicker at them behind their backs.:p
DisneyDreamingAubrey
01-14-2007, 07:01 PM
Not a huge fan of the word Bigot here either, but I know whatcha mean!;)
Kickapoo Joie Juice
01-14-2007, 07:11 PM
Ummmm, Disney Zealot?
Heh, Disney Irregular,
Disney Maverick?
Disney Devotee, that's alliterative.
My mental thesaurus is exhausted.
kimberh
01-14-2007, 07:58 PM
I have friends that don't understand, but they don't mock or make fun of me. I don't discuss my Disney plans with them either. If they ask me a question, I will answer them, but I don't get into a debate with them on how I spend my money or time. I have a very good friend that is on Disney property tonight at a convention and she will not go to the parks. She did not even tell me that she was going until she was on her way down, she sells Real Estate. One day, she said,"explain Disney to me." I replied," I can't explain it to you, I need to have you and your family take a trip with us." Well, That has never happened.
justKim
01-14-2007, 08:15 PM
I prefer the designation "enthusiast". My DH and I were just talking about this today. I find that casual aquaintances and strangers are more likely to dismiss Disney rather than actual friends.
I was at a child's birthday party today when a friend asked about our trip. It came up that we go to WDW often and her friend said "Isn't that boring?" Yes, but we worry about Disney's fiscal health and just spend our $$$ there out of kindness. Then she started talking about their trip to the Bahamas. I just wanted to say, "Ew, the Bahamas. Who would want to go there?" (Note: nothing against the Bahamas -- just happens to be what came up. I happen to love Castaway Cay ;) ) This happens often when making small talk with folks.
What's with the Disney hatin'?
Boardwalker
01-14-2007, 08:19 PM
Well, maybe, should we just be a tad sorry for the unenlightened? It is their loss.
It is sort of like the Peter Pan story ... if you have held on to just a little bit of the joy and wonder of childhood, you can go back. Once you shut off your imagination and grow old, emotionally, then you can't get what all the fuss is about.
But if you have to try to drag a nonbeliever along, like my husband, grumpy, you can always discuss the business prowess of the Disney Company and the foresight of Walt Disney in his Real Estate dealings and even the profits they are making off of all of us Disneyphiles. Maybe they will at least appreciate that.
MommaX03
01-14-2007, 08:27 PM
Well, maybe, should we just be a tad sorry for the unenlightened? It is their loss.
It is sort of like the Peter Pan story ... if you have held on to just a little bit of the joy and wonder of childhood, you can go back. Once you shut off your imagination and grow old, emotionally, then you can't get what all the fuss is about.
But if you have to try to drag a nonbeliever along, like my husband, grumpy, you can always discuss the business prowess of the Disney Company and the foresight of Walt Disney in his Real Estate dealings and even the profits they are making off of all of us Disneyphiles. Maybe they will at least appreciate that.
Stewart's "Disney War" is a good book for even nonbelievers.
I agree with your analysis of the unenlightened. I think Disneyphiles have a spark of childhood wonder left in them that is wonderful!
justKim
01-14-2007, 08:32 PM
I did tell one woman that it's a good thing she doesn't want to go to Disney World because I don't want anymore people in front of me in line for Fantasmic.
TammyAlphabet
01-14-2007, 08:32 PM
My friend's 15 year old son called me a Disney freak! His mom laughed. I told them that they were quickly talking their way out of free accommodations in Disney. That shut him up!
starbox
01-14-2007, 08:35 PM
True story:
On our last trip, we were at EPCOT walking towards the Land when DS10 stopped dead in his tracks and Gasped! :eek:
I thought he must have seen something really disturbing, like someone puking or peeing right in front of him. I'm telling you, it was a gasp worthy of truly shocking behavior.
I looked and could not see anything awful that might have freaked him out, so I asked what was wrong.
In absolute HORROR, he told me that "those. people. have. a ..................
.................................................. .................................................. ......................UNIVERSAL STUDIOS bag!!!!!! :crazy2: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :crazy2:
"Just keep walking", I told him. "Just keep walking".
CinderellasSister
01-14-2007, 08:45 PM
I've been told "Somewhere there's a support group for you"....... :grouphug:
I say "Yes there is!!!! It's called the DIS!!!!!!!!!" :disrocks:
sadly :sad2: , they have NO CLUE what I'm talking about!! :lmao:
disneymom8589
01-14-2007, 09:43 PM
Thank goodness for the DIS! We all "get each other"!! :flower1:
Pennyguy23
01-14-2007, 10:12 PM
Its true we all know or atleast can find out alot more info about disney then the average Joe. I just found this place(DIS)because of a book I bought, which led me to you guys, which led me to buying DVC, which led me to disney world alot more often, Which led me to more Happiness in life.
Just want to say thanks to everyone
Steven:thumbsup2
keys2kingdom
01-14-2007, 10:20 PM
My friend's 15 year old son called me a Disney freak! His mom laughed. I told them that they were quickly talking their way out of free accommodations in Disney. That shut him up!
I freely refer to myself as a Disney freak, for some reason it just doesn't hold a negative connotation for me.
Happy Birthday Cat
01-14-2007, 10:55 PM
We are Disneyphiles.
According to Wikipedia, phile as a suffix is used to specify some kind of attraction or affinity to something, in particular the love or obsession with something.
This describes my family. Some are just a bit more "phile" than others.;)
HBC
Granny
01-14-2007, 11:19 PM
We are Disneyphiles.
According to Wikipedia, phile as a suffix is used to specify some kind of attraction or affinity to something, in particular the love or obsession with something.
This describes my family. Some are just a bit more "phile" than others.;)
HBCAh...that's the suffix I was searching for....well done, HBC! :thumbsup2
And I know exactly what you mean by that last line in your post! ::yes::
Mickey Fliers
01-14-2007, 11:26 PM
Okay, let's just say what we really are...
Disney Nerds and I wouldn't have it any other way!
PinkTink63
01-15-2007, 01:25 AM
I did tell one woman that it's a good thing she doesn't want to go to Disney World because I don't want anymore people in front of me in line for Fantasmic.
:rotfl2:
:rotfl2: :rotfl2:
I was thinking the same thing! It is crowded enough with people that want to be there!
cdmickey
01-15-2007, 06:12 AM
With most things that people don't agree with you with, I've found one phrase that pretty much sums it all up: "If I've got to explain, you wouldn't understand".
3DisneyKids
01-15-2007, 07:06 AM
Yes, this is my outlet, my support group, my place where I can let my Disney hair down...:rotfl2:
I am the opposite of the OP...instead of kicking the non-Disney fans out of my circle of friends, I just don't talk Disney in front of them....
DVC Grammy
01-15-2007, 07:53 AM
How about "ethnocentic"? (I'd like to use a 25-cent word, and here's my opportunity!:cool1: )
Now I've got to figure out if Disney is defined as a "culture" or "race" :confused3 .
:teeth:
Alexander
01-15-2007, 08:01 AM
My friend's 15 year old son called me a Disney freak! His mom laughed. I told them that they were quickly talking their way out of free accommodations in Disney. That shut him up!
Yeah, freak or nut usually are spoken around me (don't know what's said when I'm not around!).
Kickapoo Joie Juice
01-15-2007, 08:08 AM
We are Disneyphiles.
According to Wikipedia, phile as a suffix is used to specify some kind of attraction or affinity to something, in particular the love or obsession with something.
This describes my family. Some are just a bit more "phile" than others.;)
HBC
Aaah, THAT's the word I was searching for! Much better, thank you!!!:idea:
diz8297
01-15-2007, 08:08 AM
I used to get really ticked off at people who mocked me, but now I adopt the "that's why there's chocolate and vanilla ice cream mentallity". I agree with the poster who said-that makes one less person ahead of me at Fantasmic. I say to those who "don't get it"-please-go to Vegas, on non Disney cruises, and to the Caribbean!! Just don't take my spot for SpectroMagic! Get out of my way going to Splash Mountain. And for heaven's sake, get out of line for Soarin'!!!!! :rotfl:
starbox
01-15-2007, 08:11 AM
I bought this book for my non-believer family member and friends:
http://www.amazon.com/Walt-Woodstock-Disney-Created-Counterculture/dp/0292702736
It was very, very, very interesting to read.
coasterbob
01-15-2007, 08:18 AM
Like the rest of youse, I have many friends/relatives that don't "get" my attraction/affection/obsession with Disney. I am 60 years-young, :earboy2: and get younger every trip I make to WDW. I could care less what anyone thinks. I am a self-proclaimed MOUSEMANIAC :mickeyjum , and proud of it!
Bob
Boardwalker
01-15-2007, 08:20 AM
How about "ethnocentic"? (I'd like to use a 25-cent word, and here's my opportunity!:cool1: )
Now I've got to figure out if Disney is defined as a "culture" or "race" :confused3 .
:teeth:
It has got to be a race. A rat race... :mickeyjum ooops.... a mouse race. And we are all marathon experts!
DisneyDVCdad
01-15-2007, 02:56 PM
If I had more vacation time my family would be going more than once a year!
crys5
01-15-2007, 03:35 PM
I have a brother and 2 sisters who always say are you tired of DISNEY yet? No! How can you ever get tired of DISNEY? They think because we go every year that there is nothing left to see.....But , I am fortunate enough to have a husband and kids and inlaws who love DISNEY as much as I do, so we plan our trips with the inlaws!
Can't wait for our next trip......In Novemeber........
HUFF590
01-15-2007, 05:17 PM
My friend's 15 year old son called me a Disney freak! His mom laughed. I told them that they were quickly talking their way out of free accommodations in Disney. That shut him up!
This is what they call me at work also, Disney Freak.:cool1:
Sammie
01-15-2007, 05:40 PM
Nope, it is my vacation, the forums are my escape, but it is not my life.
From a slightly different perspective, I do believe that many DVC owners think themselves better than other Timeshare Owners though they will rarely admit it.
DVCconvert
01-15-2007, 06:22 PM
WORD HISTORY Bigots may have more in common with God than one might think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on Old French bigot meant “an excessively devoted or hypocritical person.”
Well -- that certainly sums up a fair characterization of some posters on this board! ::yes:: :bitelip: :smokin:
mom2alix
01-15-2007, 10:58 PM
Here's a thread from another board about a song out called Disney Freak that's pretty funny, thought I'd share with you'all...
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1323479
fishermouse
01-16-2007, 11:34 AM
From a slightly different perspective, I do believe that many DVC owners think themselves better than other Timeshare Owners though they will rarely admit it.
What do you mean THINK? The correct word is KNOW!pixiedust:
wdw1014
01-16-2007, 12:28 PM
For all of us who love all things Disney. We knew we had found our happy place the minute we first walk through the tunnels under the train station. Can you explain that feeling or place to those who went and did not find it or to those who have never been. I for one have stopped trying. Yes, family and friends may call us crazy, but we have found and will forever hold Disney in a special spot in our hearts. I like many others who have posted am just glad I found all of you on the Dis Board.
3BoysRDisneyFreaks
01-16-2007, 12:36 PM
:rotfl2:
I am a Disney Freak. And so are the rest of the people that live in my house. All I have heard from people is "of course they are going to Disney again!" We have been every year since 2004. Why deviate from a vacation that everyone in the house enjoys? For us with the kids, it is the place to go...and really not that expensive IMO.
Our 3rd was conceived at WDW. His initals are WD. Not many people know the connection. His first trip was at 9 months (last September). He will never not remember a year without Disney!
Even if everyone makes fun of us, we will still go.
aclov
01-16-2007, 02:38 PM
I agree it's definately hard to explain Disney it's something that has to be lived or experienced. I usually just tell people I'm going to Orlando. I've found if I say Disney World that they look at me strangely with that "Again?" stare. Plus, the fact that DH and I have no children so it makes us even more abnormal. :lmao: Oh well, it's my vacation so whatever makes me happy:) . I did take my best friend last year, and at the end of the trip she said "now I understand why you come here every year, it's the happiest place on earth." So I guess you can make a believer out of a non-believer:thumbsup2
BTW - she can't wait to go back!:rotfl:
lillasmom
01-16-2007, 02:48 PM
:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
All I know is that I don't care what anyone else thinks! It's my happy place.:cloud9:
What do you mean THINK? The correct word is KNOW!pixiedust:I know you're being funny but unfortunately the correct phrase in many cases is "think they know". There's a difference between finding what's best for you and truly looking down on others. And as I said about HH, many members simply don't have enough info to make an informed comparison to other options. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. I do know several people that thought DVC was the end all and found out later there were other options better for them. So they sold their ownership and moved on to other options.
MrGrumpy222
01-17-2007, 12:41 AM
After studying Ancient Rome and it's culture I will ponder that question as if a fierce roman warrior would. (Please read the next statements as if they were truly spoken in the Court of Cesar Augustus with a touch of a noble British accent) I, Cesar August also known as Octavius, the rightful heir to my uncle Julius estate do declare that his death was a national disaster but one that we can pull through these times due to his foresight and training of his beloved public. I have been given authority over his estates here inn Rome and abroad and I submit to you now that all policies maintained by my adopted farther shall continue w/o fail. Should any man interceding on behalf of those who wish to thwart and malign Great Cesar's memory are enemies of Rome with final words uttered along the Appian way whilst they die slowly nailed to the cross. Let no man forget what Rome Stands for. We lost a Duly Elected Dictator and now we have bureaucrats to Save the ancient city. Cesar's nephew Octavius would rise to the rank of Cesar Augustus Emperor of Rome and lead it to greatness. Why such a long winded reply to Disney nay sayers,, well I like to think history repeats its self. This time it is the Disney empire which flourished with our Cesar Walt Disney himself. He forged our community and family toward 1 goal. The Great Experiment was underway when Walt was cut down (Untimely) by Cancer. Much like Cesar was cut down in the middle of building of the great city. The people didn't panic and his family rallied to his memory and ideals. The Magic Kingdom moved ahead and from there, with the Likes of Roy Disney and many others that were conpatriots of Walt took his dream to new heights. Much Like Rome, Disney is an Empire but it is based on providing fun, entertainment for all ages, and the gift of childhood memories that come at you so quick you almost feel punch drunk afterward. Disney is the place where they hire the best door man, the sweest guard at the hotel gate, the food court attendant who came to our room to check up on my 4 year old daughter who ate tooooo much and got ill in the hall at the food court and made a littel mess. Well graciously freted over my daughter and cheered he up. It was cleaned in less than a minute. These 2 girls walked us back to our room all the while making my 2 kids laugh. We setteled in and 5 minutes latter one of the girls returned with some antacids and some ginger ale that might help. I will protect this kingdom from the raiders and the Barbarians and especially to the minions of Neocon nay sayer:chewy:
jimmytammy
01-17-2007, 06:30 AM
Probably so. It might help explain the reason we hang around here on the DIS so much. Cause we can all relate. My parents and MIL pretty much understand. They dont like it like we do, but they dont constantly question us about it. My brother every so often asks me,"are you going again". But now he has gone more to asking me when Im going back. Some folks find it cute. They are the ones who understand going to WDW is a getaway for me. A way to escape reality for awhile.
I would prefer myself to more of a Disneyitis freak.;)
fishermouse
01-17-2007, 07:14 AM
A Roman Response upon this subject whiile at POFQ
And to think I just thought it was a fun place to hang out for a couple weeks a year!
We are fortunate enough to be able to travel several times a year, WDW is never my only destination for the year. This year we are also doing a cruise (not DCL) and probably a week at the shore (not HH). Was only kidding in previous post about being "better" than other condo owners etc. We do enjoy everything Disney just not ONLY Disney.
drakethib
01-18-2007, 08:57 PM
Just fly the finger to those who make the comments.
That is what I do. :lmao:
eliza61
01-19-2007, 07:42 AM
From a slightly different perspective, I do believe that many DVC owners think themselves better than other Timeshare Owners though they will rarely admit it.
:rotfl: Dean,
You're probably right. Personally I think the other timeshare owners know it, they just don't want to give me some thing else to gloat about. :rotfl2: But hey, I'm a New Yorker, I'm probably already dealing with a overblown superiority complex....
My DH calls us "Disney Pod People" (but he never turns down a trip)
Happy Birthday Cat
01-19-2007, 03:51 PM
From a slightly different perspective, I do believe that many DVC owners think themselves better than other Timeshare Owners though they will rarely admit it.
I don't think of myself as better but rather I tend to think that the Disney timeshare product is superior (even though I know this is not true for all people). From the fellow DVC owners that I have had the pleasure of meeting, I have never witnessed a feeling of personal superiority displayed (but I'm sure there are some).
HBC
JodyTG
01-19-2007, 04:21 PM
The people I know who don't understand why we go to WDW so much think of it as "just another theme park" which it is NOT. But, everyone is right that you can't explain it to them in a way that they'd understand. Disney World was out home-away-from-home before we ever bought into DVC and it will remain that way as long as we live.
I don't think of myself as better but rather I tend to think that the Disney timeshare product is superior (even though I know this is not true for all people). From the fellow DVC owners that I have had the pleasure of meeting, I have never witnessed a feeling of personal superiority displayed (but I'm sure there are some).
HBCSemantics I think. You have to know enough about both sides to know which is truly best for you. While it's been a while I've even seen people on this board post they didn't own a timeshare, they own DVC.
Kickapoo Joie Juice
01-19-2007, 06:50 PM
Just fly the finger to those who make the comments.
That is what I do. :lmao:
Oh yeah, we're a classy bunch!
Sammie
01-19-2007, 10:20 PM
Semantics I think. You have to know enough about both sides to know which is truly best for you. While it's been a while I've even seen people on this board post they didn't own a timeshare, they own DVC.
DVC isn't a timeshare, so why would any post they own one. When you buy a timeshare, you buy the right to use the accommodation for a set amount of time each year.
Membership of holiday and vacation clubs are not timeshare because they do not give you the right to stay in a specific property for a specific time.
keys2kingdom
01-19-2007, 10:40 PM
Okay, let's just say what we really are...
Disney Nerds and I wouldn't have it any other way!
I'll take Disney Nerd too. I'm not picky.
DVC isn't a timeshare, so why would any post they own one. When you buy a timeshare, you buy the right to use the accommodation for a set amount of time each year.
Membership of holiday and vacation clubs are not timeshare because they do not give you the right to stay in a specific property for a specific time.DVC is a timeshare, there are all types. Not all are a specific week and unit. Just ask the state of FL. Many other timeshares are points systems or floating weeks. A Vacation Club is simply a fancy name for a timeshare trying to get away from some of the negative connotations.
starbox
01-20-2007, 07:47 AM
DVC is a timeshare, there are all types. Not all are a specific week and unit. Just ask the state of FL. Many other timeshares are points systems or floating weeks. A Vacation Club is simply a fancy name for a timeshare trying to get away from some of the negative connotations.
But. But.
I thought I owned a piece of the magic. Are you telling me that best kept Disney secret is that it's actually a TIMESHARE????:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
:rotfl:
Deb & Bill
01-20-2007, 08:39 AM
Who gives a flyin' flip?? I'm having fun.
DisneyDVCdad
01-20-2007, 08:43 AM
Who gives a flyin' flip?? I'm having fun.
And that's what counts!
perdidobay
01-20-2007, 08:46 AM
I guess I'm a bigot, if that is the right term. I do think DVC is the best time share in Orlando... why? It's on WDW property, we have resort guest privileges, and that is why we bought in. No other time share in town can say that.
But. But.
I thought I owned a piece of the magic. Are you telling me that best kept Disney secret is that it's actually a TIMESHARE????:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
:rotfl:From DVC's website.THIS ADVERTISING MATERIAL IS BEING USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF SOLICITING SALES OF TIME-SHARE PERIODS.
fishermouse
01-20-2007, 11:49 AM
Who gives a flyin' flip?? I'm having fun.
DITTO:thumbsup2
ZaccardoDM
01-20-2007, 04:33 PM
I just returned from DW and I proudly proclaim that I am a Disney Junkie! I think it's a great idea to purchase a little "time" at DIsney resorts. NOt just one resort, but several resorts all over the world. Timeshare or club, it works for me!
Deana
(DIsney Rules)
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