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PrincessJasmine08
12-21-2006, 02:07 PM
Will I have any trouble having an epi pin in my carry on? Will I make it through security with this okay or do I need a doctor's note or anything? Thanks!

pumba
12-21-2006, 02:16 PM
if it is the same classification as insulin and syringes I would think.....it is important to keep all your meds and that too in your carryon.....Your prescription must be there for your meds too....

PrincessJasmine08
12-21-2006, 02:33 PM
if it is the same classification as insulin and syringes I would think.....it is important to keep all your meds and that too in your carryon.....Your prescription must be there for your meds too....
I need a prescription for the epi pen? It is actually my 15 year old sister's. It will be just she and I traveling, no parents. She is extremely allergic to shellfish and seafood. I need to have it with me so I just want to make sure it will be okay.

Dina
12-21-2006, 02:35 PM
Yes-- you need a prescription for an epi. I'm sure if she has an allergy to shellfish she had a prescription.

I brought my son's epi pens in the original box from the pharmacy so they could see that they were actually prescribed to him. If you don't have that-- I'd call your doctor and get a new prescription, and then bring it to the airport in the box. You really should have more than one if on a plane anyway. The epi only really buys 15 minutes. Having a backup is nice for plane rides. I actually bring 4 on planes and boats (we have 2 normally)-- but that's me. She should also bring benedryl which they will allow if she has epi pens.

Also what I do is put all the meds-- benedryl, epis and inhaler in a gallon ziplock bag and hand it to them when we get to security. Don't even keep it in the carry on, it just makes it easier to hand it all to them when you get there. They'll probably open the bag and go through everything, but it's good to keep it all together.

PrincessJasmine08
12-21-2006, 02:48 PM
I will check with her and see if she still has the box. Thanks, everyone.

ducklite
12-21-2006, 02:49 PM
If you'd take a look through the first page or two of posts in this section this was discussed at length this week.

It's Internet courtesy to look back a page or two and see if your question has been asked and answered recently.

Anne

paigevz
12-21-2006, 03:00 PM
Maybe have her go and get another prescription before you leave. That way you'll have it.

Did Miss Manners write a book on internet courtesy? I'll have to ask for that for Christmas so I can comport myself appropriately.

Does it have anything in it about it being rude to inform others on courtesy in "public"? Because in real life that is not very courteous.

pumba
12-21-2006, 03:07 PM
I just returned from Disney this past Monday and I had my perscriptions in a ziplock baggie and they did not touch anything ....not even my eye drops......each bottle and container had the perscription written on it......
As far as looking at the beginning of a board to get answers.......we are all here for you whenever you need help......sometimes I do not have ENOUGH time to go thru all these pages for any other answers....so dont worry......

Dina
12-21-2006, 03:09 PM
I just returned from Disney this past Monday and I had my perscriptions in a ziplock baggie and they did not touch anything ....not even my eye drops......each bottle and container had the perscription written on it........

Maybe they went through my bag because it was a week after the failed terrorist attmept in the UK. Also the Benedryl didn't have a prescription but since it was for something life threatening (which they could see because we had epis)- they did allow it.

ducklite
12-21-2006, 03:14 PM
Well, in all honesty, any 15 year old who has an epi-pen prescribed for them knows how to use it and should be carrying it at all times. The 15 year old is the one who should have it in their bag. Look to page two on the trasportation boards--about the fifth post down--for the labeling obligations.

You having her Epi-pen isn't going to do her much good if she's the one that needs it. Why would you be the one carrying it? At 15 she's certainly old enough to carry it--and I'm sure has been instructed on how to you use it. Do you even know how to use it?

Most kids who have a prescribed Epi-Pen carry their own by the time they are about 12.

Anne

MermaidsMom
12-21-2006, 03:22 PM
Did Miss Manners write a book on internet courtesy? I'll have to ask for that for Christmas so I can comport myself appropriately.

Does it have anything in it about it being rude to inform others on courtesy in "public"? Because in real life that is not very courteous.


There are a very small number of people with high post counts that seem to have become very crabby. They seem very impatient and judgemental with almost everyone and it shows in almost every post they put up, no matter what the question or subject matter. ;) Maybe they're tired and it's time they lay down and take a "nap" from the boards.

ducklite
12-21-2006, 03:26 PM
There are a very small number of people with high post counts that seem to have become very crabby. They seem very impatient and judgemental with almost everyone and it shows in almost every post they put up, no matter what the question or subject matter. ;) Maybe it's time for a "nap" from the boards.

The OP is hardly a "newbie" (I try to give them a little lattitude) and really should know to look over the posts for the past few days before asking a question that's been asked and answered over and over again.

Anne

PeachesDoesHair
12-21-2006, 03:31 PM
I actually think it is courteous to just answer her question without letting her know what is concidered courteous. I mean, if you really feel she is so out of line why not just be courteous and PM her with the lesson on internet courtesy. It seems publicly educating someone rather than privately telling them is far far from courteous.

disneymom3
12-21-2006, 04:09 PM
Better yet, isn't it even better internet courtesy to simply NOT post if you have nothing helpful to say?

Good grief--the issue of the 15 yo carrying her own epi is really none of our business.

ducklite
12-21-2006, 04:23 PM
Better yet, isn't it even better internet courtesy to simply NOT post if you have nothing helpful to say?

Good grief--the issue of the 15 yo carrying her own epi is really none of our business.

By asking the question, she opened herself up it being our business.

The 15 year old is old enough to carry her own Epi-pen. At 15 it's quite possible that they might not be together every waking moment, and if the OP has the Epi-pen in the ladies room when the OP suddenly feels her throat closing up, it's not going to do anyone any good, right?

Once a child is old enough to understand when it needs to be used and how to use it, they should be carrying it themselves. Like I said, it won't do teh sister any good if the OP has it and isn't right there when the sister needs it.

Anne

lost*in*cyberspace
12-21-2006, 04:27 PM
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1302559

disneymom3
12-21-2006, 04:32 PM
By asking the question, she opened herself up it being our business.

The 15 year old is old enough to carry her own Epi-pen. At 15 it's quite possible that they might not be together every waking moment, and if the OP has the Epi-pen in the ladies room when the OP suddenly feels her throat closing up, it's not going to do anyone any good, right?

Once a child is old enough to understand when it needs to be used and how to use it, they should be carrying it themselves. Like I said, it won't do teh sister any good if the OP has it and isn't right there when the sister needs it.

Anne
First off she didn't ask about her sister she simply asked about being able to bring the pen. Second, do you intimately know the life of the OP? How do we not know if her sister does not have some serious mental delays? Perhaps she is physically impaired as well. As far as I can see PrincessJasmine has not posted anything to indicate whether or not her sister is capable of giving herself her own shot. Perhaps she is not. Perhaps she is not to be trusted with the epipen. I have worked with plenty of special needs people who should absolutely under no circumstances be in charge of their own epi. A few of them would have stabbed me with it for heaven's sake. Now, I am not saying this is the case with the OP but we have no more info that it is than that it isn't. The question was about taking the epi on a flight. My point is that I am sure the OP and her sister have made the best decision of how to handle in order to fit their unique circumstances.

Sorry Princess Jasmine about taking your thread OT.

L107ANGEL
12-21-2006, 04:35 PM
I actually think it is courteous to just answer her question without letting her know what is concidered courteous. I mean, if you really feel she is so out of line why not just be courteous and PM her with the lesson on internet courtesy. It seems publicly educating someone rather than privately telling them is far far from courteous.
:worship:

Miss Jasmine
12-21-2006, 04:37 PM
Anne, for goodness sakes the question can be easily answered and then we can all move on. No need to be grinchy. Not everyone who posts on this board is a seasoned traveler and not everyone has a lot of time to go back and search for threads. And have you tried to use the search lately? It sucks. Cut people some slack.

PrincessJasmine08
12-21-2006, 04:41 PM
I will be carrying my sister's epi pen and proud of it!! She's only 15, she still needs someone to take care of her and that's no one's business but mine. Thanks for most of the answers. I now understand the procedure when flying with an epi pen.

ducklite
12-21-2006, 04:46 PM
First off she didn't ask about her sister she simply asked about being able to bring the pen. Second, do you intimately know the life of the OP? How do we not know if her sister does not have some serious mental delays? Perhaps she is physically impaired as well.

You've got a point, but then I'm even more concerned, as the OP didn't even know the Epi-Pen was a prescription only item, and as such probably has no idea how to even use it. I hope she learns more about it before she begins travel with her sister, if indeed her sister is in some way disabled.

Anne

L107ANGEL
12-21-2006, 04:49 PM
You've got a point, but then I'm even more concerned, as the OP didn't even know the Epi-Pen was a prescription only item, and as such probably has no idea how to even use it. I hope she learns more about it before she begins travel with her sister, if indeed her sister is in some way disabled.

Anne
Why are you doing this? Wake up on the wrong side of the bed again Anne :sad2:

ducklite
12-21-2006, 04:56 PM
Why are you doing this? Wake up on the wrong side of the bed again Anne :sad2:

No. I'm serious. If the sister is disabled, and is unabled to inject herself, and that's why the OP is carrying the Epi-Pen, then I hope that the OP knows how to use it. Not even being aware that it a prescription drug leads me to beleive that this is probably not the case, and if I'm right, I hope that before she leaves she gets instruction in its use by someone who does know. It's not a flame towards the OP, it's something that could save the sisters life!

If the sister is not disabled, then at 15 I'm not sure why she wouldn't carry her own Epi-Pen. She must go out with friends to the mall or something without her parents or the OP, and I would hope carries it with her when she does, and has been instructed on how to use it.

As long as the sister is not disabled, I would think that TSA might also question why she wasn't carrying her own pen if the OP's bag was inspected.

No flames, just an honest commentary and legitimate concern.

Anne

PrincessJasmine08
12-21-2006, 04:58 PM
I need a prescription for the epi pen? It is actually my 15 year old sister's. It will be just she and I traveling, no parents. She is extremely allergic to shellfish and seafood. I need to have it with me so I just want to make sure it will be okay.
When I said this I was simply asking whether I needed to bring an actual prescription for the epi pen. I understand that it is available by prescription only. I fully understand not only how to administer it, but also what signs to look for in my sister and what to do after administering it. I assure you, I am a competent adult.

L107ANGEL
12-21-2006, 05:04 PM
Well I for one want to wish you a Merry Christmas Anne, I hope you get what you really want and need :thumbsup2

Caropooh
12-21-2006, 05:34 PM
No. I'm serious. If the sister is disabled, and is unabled to inject herself, and that's why the OP is carrying the Epi-Pen, then I hope that the OP knows how to use it. Not even being aware that it a prescription drug leads me to beleive that this is probably not the case, and if I'm right, I hope that before she leaves she gets instruction in its use by someone who does know. It's not a flame towards the OP, it's something that could save the sisters life!

If the sister is not disabled, then at 15 I'm not sure why she wouldn't carry her own Epi-Pen. She must go out with friends to the mall or something without her parents or the OP, and I would hope carries it with her when she does, and has been instructed on how to use it.

As long as the sister is not disabled, I would think that TSA might also question why she wasn't carrying her own pen if the OP's bag was inspected.

No flames, just an honest commentary and legitimate concern.

Anne
You seem to be assuming an awful lot, Anne. You know what they say when you assume.......
Now, I'm also going to assume something(or as my DD7 likes to say, what if....)
What if OP is older than her sister and doesn't live at home anymore? Maybe the epi-pen is a new thing to sister and so OP hasn't had to deal with sisters alergic reactions before. I would think that if OP is wondering about carrying on an epi-pen and how to go about it, she is also going to learn all she can about the use of it. Both how to and when too.

WonderfulDreamer2
12-21-2006, 05:46 PM
If you'd take a look through the first page or two of posts in this section this was discussed at length this week.

It's Internet courtesy to look back a page or two and see if your question has been asked and answered recently.

Anne
What is all the hostility about? I'm sorry, I'm sure in your own way you were trying to help, but that just came across as rude.

MermaidsMom
12-21-2006, 06:15 PM
When I said this I was simply asking whether I needed to bring an actual prescription for the epi pen. I understand that it is available by prescription only. I fully understand not only how to administer it, but also what signs to look for in my sister and what to do after administering it. I assure you, I am a competent adult.


Don't worry, I think most everyone here knows what you were trying to ask and the only confusion seems to be about why such a simple question became such a hostile issue.

It may be a good idea to have a copy of the prescription with you just in case someone questions you. There is a DISabilities board here that is really good at answering questions like this, they seem to know almost everything about traveling with medicines, wheelchairs and people with disabilities of any kind. :sunny:

Dina
12-21-2006, 06:23 PM
Princess Jasmine-- I know you are a competent adult-- but in the first post you sounded like you were a little new to the epis. I hope you don't mind- But, I recently had to "fight" for the benedryl that you should also have with the epis (in Philly, in Orlando they were wonderful). So if you have any more questions,let me know. Also, I just want to say like I said before-- try and get more than one epi. Protocol is that the pilot will land the plane if an epi has to be used, but that and getting to a hospital could take more than the 15 minutes the pen gives you. A doctor will give her a prescription for more. And don't forget that benedryl (which often prevents us from getting to the point of having to use the epi). If you have any more questions about bringing epis on board or anything, please feel free to pm me.

Anne is right though about the pen, if your sister can handle it (and I don't know your situation), she should really have the epi on her person at all times-- if you guys are separated for even a few minutes-- it's really important that she has it, and can use it. My son is only 6, but he has a sort of bag that goes everywhere he goes. Right now there's always an adult to handle it, but in a few years, he's gonna have to be the one to carry it around and know how to use it. Maybe it's because we're peanut though, and that's everywhere. Just something to think about.

I hope you guys have a wonderful trip

Tiffany
12-21-2006, 06:25 PM
Will I have any trouble having an epi pin in my carry on? Will I make it through security with this okay or do I need a doctor's note or anything? Thanks!

My husband brings his on with no issues. We put all of his meds in their original packaging with the perscription on them in a clear plastic bag and just put it in a bin to go through the x-ray and we have no problems.

L107ANGEL
12-21-2006, 06:57 PM
Princess Jasmine-- I know you are a competent adult-- but in the first post you sounded like you were a little new to the epis. I hope you don't mind- But, I recently had to "fight" for the benedryl that you should also have with the epis (in Philly, in Orlando they were wonderful). So if you have any more questions,let me know. Also, I just want to say like I said before-- try and get more than one epi. Protocol is that the pilot will land the plane if an epi has to be used, but that and getting to a hospital could take more than the 15 minutes the pen gives you. A doctor will give her a prescription for more. And don't forget that benedryl (which often prevents us from getting to the point of having to use the epi). If you have any more questions about bringing epis on board or anything, please feel free to pm me.

Anne is right though about the pen, if your sister can handle it (and I don't know your situation), she should really have the epi on her person at all times-- if you guys are separated for even a few minutes-- it's really important that she has it, and can use it. My son is only 6, but he has a sort of bag that goes everywhere he goes. Right now there's always an adult to handle it, but in a few years, he's gonna have to be the one to carry it around and know how to use it. Maybe it's because we're peanut though, and that's everywhere. Just something to think about.

I hope you guys have a wonderful trip
Now you are a helpfull Diser! :thumbsup2 Take notes Anne ;)

Shugardrawers
12-21-2006, 09:15 PM
Sometimes 2 passengers share a carryone, Dh and I do. That could be exactly what the op and her dsis are doing. At any rate, you were awfully harsh ducklite and you owe the op an apology, not even a search will turn up all the info you are looking for.

phorsenuf
12-21-2006, 10:05 PM
Gosh Anne, why all the hostility? She asked a simple question for goodness sakes. Perhaps from now on all questions should go through you to see if they are deemed worthy to post. :sad2:

goofy4tink
12-22-2006, 08:14 AM
Okay people....granted, Ducklite sometimes doesn't post with the most sensitivity, but there is a preponderance of posts regarding what you all feel to be 'nasty' or 'rude' posts by her. Enough. Get back on track regarding the EPI pen....most have posted pretty helpful stuff.
I have to agree with Anne on one point though....anyone old enough to be out and around, on their own, who needs an EPI pen, should have one with them, on their person all the time. My dd, now 13, has several friends who fall into this catagory. They have had EPI pens on their person since the age of 6 or so. That pen goes with them everywhere....24/7. No one is taking issue with the OP here or calling them, or the sister, irresponsible. Just asking questions. So....back on topic folks.

phorsenuf
12-22-2006, 08:28 AM
Well for all we know both of them will be carrying a pen. What if the attack is so severe that the sis can't administer it herself or she panics or if if if.
It's a good idea that whoever is travelling with her has direct acess on their own person to one as a backup.

Would that not be prudent?

RickinNYC
12-22-2006, 10:48 AM
If you'd take a look through the first page or two of posts in this section this was discussed at length this week.

It's Internet courtesy to look back a page or two and see if your question has been asked and answered recently.

Anne

I'm going to don my mod cap for a quick sec and just say that asking a question on the DIS that has previously been asked before doesn't break any rules. If you see the question in the header, you can either politely and kindly answer, or you can opt not to open the thread at all. Have a great day!

L107ANGEL
12-22-2006, 11:01 AM
I'm going to don my mod cap for a quick sec and just say that asking a question on the DIS that has previously been asked before doesn't break any rules. If you see the question in the header, you can either politely and kindly answer, or you can opt not to open the thread at all. Have a great day!
:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2

phorsenuf
12-22-2006, 11:02 AM
I'm going to don my mod cap for a quick sec and just say that asking a question on the DIS that has previously been asked before doesn't break any rules. If you see the question in the header, you can either politely and kindly answer, or you can opt not to open the thread at all. Have a great day!

Oh sure...take the high route! ;)

ducklite
12-22-2006, 11:07 AM
I'm going to don my mod cap for a quick sec and just say that asking a question on the DIS that has previously been asked before doesn't break any rules. If you see the question in the header, you can either politely and kindly answer, or you can opt not to open the thread at all. Have a great day!

I didn't tell her it was breaking any rules. I simply suggested that on the Internet it's considered courteous to look theough the past day or two's posts to see if your question has already been covered before beginning a new thread. I didn't call the poster names, and frankly I was less rude to her than many have been to me on this thread.

Anne

RickinNYC
12-22-2006, 11:10 AM
I didn't tell her it was breaking any rules. I simply suggested that on the Internet it's considered courteous to look theough the past day or two's posts to see if your question has already been covered before beginning a new thread. I didn't call the poster names, and frankly I was less rude to her than many have been to me on this thread.

Anne

You're entirely correct. But you're post was written in a pretty harsh, cold manner. The poster was simply looking for advice. Could she have done a search and found her answer? Sure. It might have been a whole lot nicer and a LOT easier for you to have simply said something along the lines of, "This was asked recently, let me provide a link to that thread for some great suggestions."

I think that's probably why some folks are getting twisted up about your response.

ETA: I realize it's impossible to hear one's tone when one posts so perhaps folks misunderstood your intent.

SoarinJ
12-22-2006, 11:28 AM
If you'd take a look through the first page or two of posts in this section this was discussed at length this week.

It's Internet courtesy to look back a page or two and see if your question has been asked and answered recently.

Anne

thank you!

Tinker*Kelly
12-25-2006, 01:32 PM
Obviously things are different here in Canada than they are in the States, because we can get epi-pens without a prescription... I require an epi-pen because of a severe allergy to macadamia nuts (I know, it's a weird allergy... but what can you do?)

Obviously before my trip, I will have to get back to the doctors and get a 'fresh' prescription, just so I won't have any problems when I try to board the plane...