View Full Version : Is Sugar free Jello still the only CS item for kids dessert?
PaulaMurf
12-20-2006, 01:46 PM
Blech!
We are going in a few weeks - just trying to get my plans all in order.
TIA
Paula in CT
#1 Pocahontas
12-21-2006, 04:21 AM
It is from what I remember. However, I did hear a few cast members offering alternative desserts for kids. Like a milkshake, or a dessert off the regular dessert menu. DD was more than happy with the jello so we personally never tried to get anything else but it was an option. In most of the cases I heard the guest ask what desserts were available and the cm offered the alternative without the guest asking for it.
PaulaMurf
12-21-2006, 02:29 PM
he is afraid of jello....
OurDogCisco
12-21-2006, 03:15 PM
That's good to hear because I don't feed my kids any artificial sweetener. So I'm glad they offer something else although they probably don't need it either.
wrldpossibility
12-21-2006, 03:30 PM
We got back yesterday, and yes, officially it's still the only CS kids' dessert. My children surprised me and loved it. They never realized it was sugar-free, and with all the other sweets, I was happy with it. But at several CS (I believe Pecos Bill and CHH for sure) they let them substitute for chocolate cake.
carmie3377
12-24-2006, 08:20 PM
It was the only one we saw. Tusker House let us order chocolate cake for our DD. I just said "I guess my daughter will have to get jello" and the cast member said she could have any dessert.
Gillian
12-25-2006, 12:15 PM
I keep meaning to write to Disney about this. I do not give my kids artificial sweeteners. I'm sure they would like the jello fine, but I would prefer not to give it to them.
Thanks for the heads up!
KangaFan
12-25-2006, 12:31 PM
Thanks!
MemoryMakers2669
12-25-2006, 02:02 PM
Odd, as we ordered our girls whatever dessert we wanted all week long at CS places. Mickey Bars, cupcakes from the bakery section (at WL and Capt. Cooks), big cookies, etc. Some places don't have the jello, while others did. We never once got the jello, as I too won't do art. sweetners.
MemoryMakers2669
12-25-2006, 02:04 PM
Adding to be more specific, that at Flame Tree BBQ at AK, my kids got kids meals, and got the frozen lemonades for dessert. At Hurricane Hannahs, they got Mickey Bars. At Capt. Cooks and Roaring Forks, they got cupcakes and self serve soft serve. At Pop Century they got cupcakes, big cookies and Itzacadoodles (sp?).
MomofCKJ
12-25-2006, 02:13 PM
We just got back and at all the CS we ate at except Cosmic Rays, they had the jello. At Cosmic Rays they let them get the No Sugar Added Brownie. Aside from that it was Jello, Jello and more Jello, which usually went half eaten.
For CS we went to:
Pinocchio Village Haus
Rosies something at MGM
Pop Century Food Court (but here we split regular meals so we shared other desserts)
Pecos Bills
Tusker House
Cosmic Rays
Also at all the above, except Tusker House, they were able to get Fries as one of their sides. 2 of my kids got fries/grapes each time and the other got fries/carrots.
Allyson
MemoryMakers2669
12-25-2006, 02:24 PM
We ate at Pop Century twice this week, and both times my kids got regular desserts, with their kids meals. I didn't even know they had to get the jello. Was never questioned once.
carmie3377
12-25-2006, 03:50 PM
Also at all the above, except Tusker House, they were able to get Fries as one of their sides. 2 of my kids got fries/grapes each time and the other got fries/carrots.
Allyson
We tried to get fries at many places, and no place would let us.
MomofCKJ
12-25-2006, 05:19 PM
We tried to get fries at many places, and no place would let us.
Isn't that odd? All of them did, except Tusker House and that is because they serve mashed potatoes with everything so they don't make fries there. But all the rest the kids got fries. It even said in the small print on the menu boards fries and soft drinks available upon request.
It is too bad that there seem to be so many inconsistancies when it comes to dining.
Allyson
mom0299
12-25-2006, 05:58 PM
We just got back. The kids always got the sugar-free jello except at Cosmic Rays and they got a brownie. A few times I let my DS (9) have my dessert and I ate his jello. We were always able to get soft drinks for the kids if we wanted them, but they chose apple juice a few times. I was glad to have the option. At breakfast I made sure they got milk or juice.
princesspwrhr
12-26-2006, 01:52 PM
We were there the first week of Dec. The counter service places we ate at were
Electric Umbrella - only allowed Jello for kids
Casey's Corner - allowed Brownies & Cracker Jacks
Tusker House - allowed Choc cake, cheese cake & carrot cake
Cosmic Rays- allowed sugar free brownies & choc cake (really a cupcake)
Earl of Sandwich- bakery items- any cookie or cupcake
My kids don't eat french fries so we never attempted to order them but I do remember seeing the menu board say that I could sub fries if I wanted, and one of our kids meals at Cosmic Rays auto came w/ fries as well as 2 of the other sides, I think it was the chick nuggets. I ordered 1 kid soda once and that wasn't an issue either.
dbmarie
12-29-2006, 12:07 PM
Most CS allowed my dd's to subsitute something for the jello however at Flame tree bbq the wouldn't. At flame tree bbq when I questioned her on getting extra grapes insted she insisted that jello was better for them then fruit. I let her know that saccharine has been shown to cause cancer in rats and I would prefer not to give that to my girls. I offered it to another family but no one seems to like the jello as there were alot of them going into the trash.
almburr
12-29-2006, 07:25 PM
when we went our kids could get any dessert tha they wanted, brownie, grapes, applesauce, carrot stx, cookies, peanut butter mousse
MaeDaisy
12-30-2006, 12:20 PM
At Flat Bread Grill in MGM, it was automatically jello. We didn't ask about a substitution.
At Tusker House, I asked if they could get the chocolate cake and was told no, kids meals come with jello only.
We all split up in Epcot. My daughter's kids meal from Lotus Blossom came with choice of an almond cookie or ginger ice cream. The German CS didn't have a kid's menu, so my son automatically got a "grown-up" dessert. He picked the Black Forest cake.
They had their choice of dessert at our resort food court.
The kid's dessert at Wolfgang Puck Express was a big cookie. In fact, the adults also had to get the big cookie because they were out of creme brulee. I was really disappointed with that. I didn't like my entree either (Thai noodle salad), and they said I didn't get a side or appetizer with the plan, so that whole visit was a disappointment.
PaulaMurf
01-14-2007, 08:36 AM
allow Jello Substition.
THANKS
Kayleebug
01-14-2007, 09:18 AM
I guess I'm a little behind the changes, but we went last May my DD could get any dessert she wanted. When did they start the jello thing? Not only will I not let her eat the sugar free jello, but she HATES jello (sugar or not!). I really hope they will allow her to have a substitution. At the food court at POR, she was allowed to get ice cream. I hope she will still be able to do that.
Luv'sTink
01-14-2007, 10:22 AM
That S/F jello was gross! DS east S/F stuff but not that!
ETA: The other thing that got me was the carrot sticks. DS can not have raw carrots due to his braces as per the Orthodontist.
turnlisa
01-14-2007, 12:52 PM
I guess I'm a little behind the changes, but we went last May my DD could get any dessert she wanted. When did they start the jello thing? Not only will I not let her eat the sugar free jello, but she HATES jello (sugar or not!). I really hope they will allow her to have a substitution. At the food court at POR, she was allowed to get ice cream. I hope she will still be able to do that.
Disney has rolled out new menus for the kids that are supposed to be healthier. I do agree about the Jello -- my DS is not going to like it and I don't like the idea of him having the artificial sweetener either. We will be ordering desserts to share or ordering him his own OOP. I just won't do that to him. I really wish Disney would even offer the fresh fruit for dessert -- would be a much healthier choice.
Kayleebug
01-14-2007, 01:41 PM
Disney has rolled out new menus for the kids that are supposed to be healthier. I do agree about the Jello -- my DS is not going to like it and I don't like the idea of him having the artificial sweetener either. We will be ordering desserts to share or ordering him his own OOP. I just won't do that to him. I really wish Disney would even offer the fresh fruit for dessert -- would be a much healthier choice.
I'll probably do the same (order a dessert OOP). It will still be a good value.
disnut1149
01-14-2007, 04:23 PM
Hi
I was there in December and noticed jello for kids as a dessert. I asked the CM at Sunshine Seasons if kids had to get the jello and he said no. They could pick any dessert. I guess it sometimes depends on the CM. I'm going in August with my DD and DGD4 and I know she won't want to eat jello at every meal, while my DD and I can get a really nice dessert. So since I don't really need any dessert, I'll let her pick what she wants and she can have mine. Hopefully by August, they'll have more of a choice with the kids meals.
frndofpooh
01-15-2007, 08:32 PM
When they rolled out the new kids menus with the S/F jello I contacted Disney to ask about the availability of other desserts as I do not let my kids have artificial sweeteners. The lady that I spoke with suggested that we ask for adult desserts at the CS places and in December that is what we did. We had no problems - we would just explain to the cashier that we don't let our kids have artificial sweeteners and they were fine with it.
I think that the advent of the separation of the child/adult credits in the cashier's computer systems had caused some CM's to stop letting this occur because they are afraid of recrimination. It's too bad - they management that I spoke too about this was perfectly understanding about the artificial sweetener issue.
Gillian
02-13-2007, 08:22 AM
Does anyone have an update on this situation from 2007? :)
bartleby1
02-13-2007, 10:09 AM
We don't allow our kids artificial sweeteners either. Heck, I won't even eat/drink that stuff.
Some of you posted about being able to substitute a no-sugar added brownie for the sugar-free jello. Am I assuming correctly that they also contain artificial sweeteners? Were regular brownies available too?
Thanks!
Fabooliss
02-14-2007, 11:56 AM
We ate at Pop Century twice this week, and both times my kids got regular desserts, with their kids meals. I didn't even know they had to get the jello. Was never questioned once.
Grrrr... they told us we had to get the jello at POP. We ended up giving it away.
However, Sunshine Seasons and WPE both had alternative desserts for kids.
Disneyolic
02-16-2007, 02:14 PM
I'm very interested in this for our upcoming trip in June so we need to get this back on the first page.
Katiebell
02-16-2007, 03:06 PM
I brought this up on another thread about DDP and kids' meals, but it seems appropriate to mention here as well. Carrot sticks and grapes are not good to give to toddlers. They don't really have strong molars to grind up the carrots and the raw veggies can break into large chunks and be a choking hazard. Grapes are especially bad because they compress and are just the right size to get lodged in a child's windpipe. The American Academy of Pediatrics lists raw vegetables and grapes as two of the greatest choking hazards for children under the age of 4 (hot dogs are also on the list, for the same reasons as grapes):
http://healthresources.caremark.com/topic/chokingreport
Grapes and carrots are definitely healthy foods, but not good choices for very young children. Given that, and also how many parents are concerned about the artificial sweeteners in that jello or those sugar-free brownies, Disney should offer some other kid-friendly alternatives for sides and desserts like little cups of yogurt, a banana :banana:, canned diced peaches or mandarin oranges, little packages of cookies, teddy grahams, or goldfish crackers (I believe those goldfish crackers are on some menus already), fruit roll ups, soft serve frozen yogurt or small frozen ice cream bars or frozen yogurt bars, ice cream sandwiches or fudgesicles :mickeybar -- there are a lot of alternatives they could come up with.
JodyTG
02-16-2007, 05:11 PM
I brought this up on another thread about DDP and kids' meals, but it seems appropriate to mention here as well. Carrot sticks and grapes are not good to give to toddlers. They don't really have strong molars to grind up the carrots and the raw veggies can break into large chunks and be a choking hazard. Grapes are especially bad because they compress and are just the right size to get lodged in a child's windpipe. The American Academy of Pediatrics lists raw vegetables and grapes as two of the greatest choking hazards for children under the age of 4 (hot dogs are also on the list, for the same reasons as grapes):
http://healthresources.caremark.com/topic/chokingreport
Grapes and carrots are definitely healthy foods, but not good choices for very young children. Given that, and also how many parents are concerned about the artificial sweeteners in that jello or those sugar-free brownies, Disney should offer some other kid-friendly alternatives for sides and desserts like little cups of yogurt, a banana :banana:, canned diced peaches or mandarin oranges, little packages of cookies, teddy grahams, or goldfish crackers (I believe those goldfish crackers are on some menus already), fruit roll ups, soft serve frozen yogurt or small frozen ice cream bars or frozen yogurt bars, ice cream sandwiches or fudgesicles :mickeybar -- there are a lot of alternatives they could come up with.
I agree, Katiebell. There's just too many problems that can crop up with very young children using artificial sweetener. Grapes and raw carrots have never even been offered to my almost 3yo son.
gower525
02-16-2007, 05:56 PM
Oh I hope they let us substitute. MY kids won't eat jello or carrots!
Gillian
02-17-2007, 07:42 AM
I gave my kids grapes cut in half, but not carrots for the 3 year old although she will take them from the fridge herself (grr) and has a good mouth of teeth.
Little yogurts would be great, but I bet it's a storage/expiration issue. Plus many yogurts are very high in sugar.
It seems to me that Disney created a profile for kids meals (with a nutritionist) and then realized it's difficult to match it with a REAL meal! Seriously, if you've ever been on a diet, you know it's not easy to limit both fat and sugar/carbs without going very plain or adding artificial stuff.
Gillian
02-17-2007, 07:59 AM
The more I think about this, the less it bothers me, for my own family.
I think it's wrong, a terrible way to feed kids these days, and I'm made sick by all the reduced sugar foods that have sucralose (Splenda) added to them. Why does peanut butter need sweetener anyway?!! But I can read labels and choose what I want my family to eat at home.
For Disney, I'll avoid what I know I don't want them to have and not stress about the rest. The way I see it, our kids would be having 2-3 desserts EVERY DAY during vacation, if they got a snack as well. They would almost never have that at home, so why on vacation? We'll still do the meal plan, but decline the jello, split the adult desserts, and have a great trip.
I am laughing at myself because we're working so hard to get DS6 to understand that he doesn't need dessert after dinner every night (or that fruit counts, LOL), and yet I'm getting all upset because he can't get a dessert for lunch at Disney World? :rotfl2:
Disneyolic
02-17-2007, 08:44 AM
The more I think about this, the less it bothers me, for my own family.
I am laughing at myself because we're working so hard to get DS6 to understand that he doesn't need dessert after dinner every night (or that fruit counts, LOL), and yet I'm getting all upset because he can't get a dessert for lunch at Disney World? :rotfl2:I thought this too - worried that they will get sick of Jello for one of their desserts every day. And then I reminded myself that it is 1 of many desserts per day. The way I see it now is, heck, we are on vacation and we sort of let things go just for that fact. Sure, have a couple more desserts because we are on vacation, trying hard to make them understand that this will stop when we get back home. I like to think the same way for myself ;) - a couple extra desserts will be fine until I get back home. But, that's our family...
Kayleebug
02-17-2007, 08:57 AM
The dining plan last summer really spoiled my DD. When we got back, she was like, "Where's my dessert?" :lmao:
Tam1067
02-17-2007, 12:26 PM
When we were there in July, every CS had unsweetened apple sauce. Do they still have that? It's certainly healthy and safe for toddlers--and with no sweeteners at all, you can avoid the artificial sweenter dilemma.
Gillian
02-17-2007, 03:36 PM
The dining plan last summer really spoiled my DD. When we got back, she was like, "Where's my dessert?" :lmao::rotfl: Here too. That wasn't as bad as the kids wanting us to all sleep in the same room again. :rolleyes:
Kayleebug
02-17-2007, 10:07 PM
:rotfl: Here too. That wasn't as bad as the kids wanting us to all sleep in the same room again. :rolleyes:
:laughing: :rotfl2: :rotfl: :lmao:
InnerStrength06
02-17-2007, 10:13 PM
Both of my children (DD8 and DS6) would be thrilled to eat a "dessert" such as fresh strawberries, watermelon chunks, a banana, or hey...since WDW is in sunny Florida - an orange or grapefruit! Neither one however, will eat SF jello. DD's favorite food is salad, so I am thrilled with the carrot alternative. I do not think that we who are chosing the DDP and paying for it should have to limit our childs dessert choice to jello. We are not going until Aug., ...I sure hope they do away with the jello by then or at least offer another healthy alternative.
Gillian
02-18-2007, 08:36 AM
Both of my children (DD8 and DS6) would be thrilled to eat a "dessert" such as fresh strawberries, watermelon chunks, a banana, or hey...since WDW is in sunny Florida - an orange or grapefruit! Neither one however, will eat SF jello. DD's favorite food is salad, so I am thrilled with the carrot alternative. I do not think that we who are chosing the DDP and paying for it should have to limit our childs dessert choice to jello. We are not going until Aug., ...I sure hope they do away with the jello by then or at least offer another healthy alternative.When I emailed Disney I suggested fruit or ice cream as alternatives.
I remember last year we were able to get a fruit bowl at some places for CS dessert, and the kids enjoyed that.
LiteBrite
02-22-2007, 01:25 PM
We had sort of an opposite problem. My DH is diabetic, and he actually wanted the sugar free jello for his CS dessert with the DDP. He asked every place we ate, and some places didn't have a problem with that, but amazingly, some places gave us a really hard time about it. Why on earth wouldn't they want to give him something that's normally much less expensive than the regular option?
I think it was just because the cashiers in those instances didn't know how to ring it up. We had to get a manager involved a couple of times, but in the end, he always got his jello.:rotfl:
englishrose47
02-22-2007, 07:02 PM
Seems to depend on the CM.My GKs don't like Jello DGD has braces but is 11 so not on kids meal plan. I have no objection to healthy choices butthat's what it should be. Fries and a cookie should also be a chooice!!
CouchFamily1998
02-22-2007, 10:18 PM
Artificial Sweetners are VERY bad for kids. Studies are linking it to the increase of Autism, ADHD etc in children. Do not use it when you are pregnant and never give it to children.
Much easier to provide opportunites for them to burn off the sugar then to detox the chemicals out of thier bodies.
Gillian
02-23-2007, 09:15 AM
Artificial Sweetners are VERY bad for kids. Studies are linking it to the increase of Autism, ADHD etc in children. Do not use it when you are pregnant and never give it to children.
Much easier to provide opportunites for them to burn off the sugar then to detox the chemicals out of thier bodies.IT's difficult to know the validity of such studies, and the American academy of pediatrics hasn't taken a stand against them, so I think this will be a hard sell to Disney.
That doesn't mean I want my kids to have them, just saying.
DisneyCrazyX5
02-23-2007, 12:53 PM
There just seems to be so may other deserts they could offer (other than those with artifical sweetners).
One cookie
small ice cream cups
pudding cups
fruit (1/2 banana, apple slices. melon)
graham crackers (teddy grahams)
yogurt (low or non-fat)
frozen fruit bars
Thses are all choices I have for my boys at home, and I thought I was doing great.:confused3
Sugar free jello should be one choice but not the only one, And all the items I listed above would be easy to grab and serve.
If the jello is thier only choice I will be trading them my adult desert
CouchFamily1998
02-23-2007, 05:43 PM
IT's difficult to know the validity of such studies, and the American academy of pediatrics hasn't taken a stand against them, so I think this will be a hard sell to Disney.
That doesn't mean I want my kids to have them, just saying.
Actually there are a lot of studies. Google aspartame and autism. I am a teacher and it is very well known in the education field. It causes MS symptoms and other disorders. In a child it takes small amounts to cause neurological damage. In a pregnant woman it is even more dangerous. Do much research at all and you will see how dangerous it is for adults let alone children. It is basically a neuro toxin especially when exposed to temperatures as low as 90 degrees.
jodifla
02-23-2007, 07:02 PM
Actually there are a lot of studies. Google aspartame and autism. I am a teacher and it is very well known in the education field. It causes MS symptoms and other disorders. In a child it takes small amounts to cause neurological damage. In a pregnant woman it is even more dangerous. Do much research at all and you will see how dangerous it is for adults let alone children. It is basically a neuro toxin especially when exposed to temperatures as low as 90 degrees.
Oh yeah, everything causes autism...getting vaccines, eating fish, watching TV, etc.
DaisyD
02-23-2007, 07:36 PM
IT's difficult to know the validity of such studies, and the American academy of pediatrics hasn't taken a stand against them, so I think this will be a hard sell to Disney.
That doesn't mean I want my kids to have them, just saying.
The academy might not take a stand but my ped did. He is totally against any kind of artificial sweetener in growing bodies. I agree with him.
kribit
02-23-2007, 07:52 PM
Are you kidding me?!!? My kids despise jello, and we never give them artificial sweetners. Why would Disney do this?
I agree with these ideas for healthy desert
One cookie
small ice cream cups
pudding cups
fruit (1/2 banana, apple slices. melon)
graham crackers (teddy grahams)
yogurt (low or non-fat)
frozen fruit bars
Perhaps we should express these in writing. :)
CouchFamily1998
02-23-2007, 07:56 PM
Oh yeah, everything causes autism...getting vaccines, eating fish, watching TV, etc.
Fact is that neuro problems such as Autism, ADHD/ADD are on the rise. I work in a special preschool with them. You can not even compare the likely hood of watching TV causing Neurological problems to a chemical being consumed. Especially when the brain is growing and developing.
cancilla
02-25-2007, 12:35 AM
I'm concerned about this, too. My son is vegetarian, so Jell-o is out. Any vegetarians out there who have had to handle this?
--Dominick
Disneyolic
02-25-2007, 06:30 AM
I'm concerned about this, too. My son is vegetarian, so Jell-o is out. Any vegetarians out there who have had to handle this?
--DominickSorry if I sound dumb, but why is Jello out if your son is a vegetarian? I would assume most desserts would be "out" then if that is the case.
englishrose47
02-25-2007, 06:49 AM
Sorry if I sound dumb, but why is Jello out if your son is a vegetarian? I would assume most desserts would be "out" then if that is the case.
I think th :jel" isof animal origin. While chocolat4e cake is of vegetable origin withj the exception of eggs which some vegetarians eat. Hows that from a non vegetarian? Am I close!!
LiteBrite
02-25-2007, 07:06 AM
Sorry if I sound dumb, but why is Jello out if your son is a vegetarian? I would assume most desserts would be "out" then if that is the case.
From http://www.ivu.org/faq/gelatine.html -
"Gelatin (US spelling) or gelatine (British spelling) (used to make Jell-o and other desserts) is made from the boiled bones, skins and tendons of animals."
Disneyolic
02-25-2007, 07:14 AM
From http://www.ivu.org/faq/gelatine.html -
"Gelatin (US spelling) or gelatine (British spelling) (used to make Jell-o and other desserts) is made from the boiled bones, skins and tendons of animals."
Eww. Thank you. Makes me almost want to be a vegetarian. :rotfl:
LiteBrite
02-25-2007, 07:16 AM
Eww. Thank you. Makes me almost want to be a vegetarian. :rotfl:
:rotfl2: I know what you mean. And jello seems so fun and innocent! :rotfl2:
WDW1st-timers
02-25-2007, 04:19 PM
From http://www.ivu.org/faq/gelatine.html -
"Gelatin (US spelling) or gelatine (British spelling) (used to make Jell-o and other desserts) is made from the boiled bones, skins and tendons of animals."
Oh Gosh....:sick: I should of never read this thread.
PrincessPaczki
02-25-2007, 04:40 PM
Hi
I am one that is glad that they offer sugar-free things at the parks. You see, we just found out that my son has diabetes. I never believed in sugar free products either, but to give him a substitute such as grahm crackers, bananas or ice cream could set his sugar up the charts. I know that there are alot of people with diabetes that are glad for the sugar free.
Kayleebug
02-25-2007, 05:04 PM
I'm all for them having sugar free.... as a CHOICE... not the only option. :confused3 A cookie, a small ice cream... heck, we are on vacation, right? I will be purchasing an additional dessert for DD if they will not substitute the sugar free jello.
Does anyone know who we'd write to give suggestions?
englishrose47
02-25-2007, 06:48 PM
:r
olleyes1 :lmao: I told you it was animal origin I just didn't say what part!!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
csmommy
02-25-2007, 08:07 PM
What is the address I can send an email to?
Kayleebug
02-25-2007, 08:21 PM
What is the address I can send an email to?
Yes, I'd like that, too. Maybe if enough people write them, they will start giving a choice.
WDW1st-timers
02-25-2007, 09:37 PM
We need to start an online petition. Anyone want to draw one up?
DCDisney
02-26-2007, 02:58 PM
The sugar free jello they use is vegetarian. You can look it up at kozyshack.com under the foodservice section. It is labelled Kosher Parve which means it has no meat or dairy.
Yvonne
Katiebell
02-26-2007, 03:10 PM
I don't think it is, even though it is labeled Kosher Parve. I looked up kosher laws on milechai.com and it says:
A controversial topic is the status of gelatin. This substance comes from the processed bones of animals. If the source of gelatin is a kosher animal that was properly slaughtered according to Jewish law, then such gelatin is considered kosher by all Jews. All other gelatin is usually considered treif (non-kosher). However, a number of prominent rabbinic authorities have noted that gelatin undergoes such extensive processing and chemical changes that it no longer has the status of meat, and as such may be considered pareve and kosher. Most Conservative Jews, and a significant minority of Israeli Orthodox Jews, accept that all gelatin is kosher.
Vegetarian websites also say gelatin is an animal by-product, and not vegan or vegetarian. They recommend you make your own gelatin from agar agar, which comes from seaweed. HTH
csmommy
02-26-2007, 03:19 PM
wdw.guest.communications@disneyworld.com
This is the email address you can send your concerns about artifical sweetners to. Or any other concerns for that matter.
Kayleebug
02-27-2007, 07:44 PM
wdw.guest.communications@disneyworld.com
This is the email address you can send your concerns about artifical sweetners to. Or any other concerns for that matter.
THANKS!!!
Kayleebug
02-27-2007, 07:56 PM
I wrote them. Let's hope I hear something back!
Fabooliss
02-28-2007, 06:08 AM
THANKS!!!
Thank you!!! I keep meaning to write but it seems such an effort to get out a pen etc. I'm much more likely to actually email!
Gillian
02-28-2007, 08:07 AM
The academy might not take a stand but my ped did. He is totally against any kind of artificial sweetener in growing bodies. I agree with him.Me too, of course, or I wouldn't be posting on this thread (see my other posts before the autism one). :)
And for the person posting about autism links, most foods these days use sucralose (Splenda). Because it comes from natural sugar, it is marketed as better for you. It is very different from aspartame, chemically. Again, I'm not saying I want my kids to have it, but that's the spin.
Almost any "reduced sugar" food in the grocery store probably has sucralose. blech.
Gillian
02-28-2007, 08:19 AM
Hi
I am one that is glad that they offer sugar-free things at the parks. You see, we just found out that my son has diabetes. I never believed in sugar free products either, but to give him a substitute such as grahm crackers, bananas or ice cream could set his sugar up the charts. I know that there are alot of people with diabetes that are glad for the sugar free.I hope you find lots of choices for your son! It can be very difficult to change the eating habits you've had all your life to cut out carbohydrates. I have a problem with my blood sugar as well.
The best trip I had to Disney was a solo trip where I was on the Atkins diet. I only cheated at one meal (Boma!!) and also avoided all artifical sweeteners the whole time. I felt fantastic! But it's hard to tell a kid he can't have desserts, when people all around are eating mickey bars and frozen lemonade (the worst. And it's true not everyone understands that certain fruit or crackers are an issue as well.
BTW, I found that having a stash of baby carrots (or buying them from the snack stands) helped with the munchies. They are sweet but do not have much effect on my blood sugar when raw.
PoohHappens
02-28-2007, 01:45 PM
I think since the price point for the kids DDP is great I will not worry to much about this issue. I too do not allow artificial sweetners and I preferr Items with organic cane sugar juice to corn syrup. It is vacation so I will not worry about the latter, but will not feed DS the sugar free jello. However if my food comes with a dessert I do not need it and will just share with DS. He will ave plenty of sugar and dessert items between snacks and TS and when I finally give in to that sucker as big as his head....:rotfl: I bet that one is loaded with high fructose corn syrup, artificial colors and every other chemical they can find. Oh well at least he gets bored with it in about 10 minutes but then we can stay for the EMH that night as he will still be going and going and going...................
Barb0829
02-28-2007, 04:46 PM
I wrote them
WDW1st-timers
02-28-2007, 05:58 PM
I also just sent in my letter. I'm sure that I will here something back.
ToyStory
02-28-2007, 07:51 PM
I emailed them a month and half ago and got a generic response back via email, so I responded to their email. I first thanked them for their response although it was generic and voiced my concerns over the limitations for kids meals once again. Yes I did tell them their response was generic. :rolleyes:
The other day my phone rang, I looked at the caller ID and saw it was from Orlando. I was oh great something is wrong with the ADR's I made.
It was a lady from guest services calling in reference to my emails. We had a nice chat about my emails. Basically she stated they have been getting a lot of complaints about the kids meals and they are taking the complaints seriously. The person in charge of dining services is well aware of the complaints and they are working on a solution. She didn't give a time frame.
She also said they value the customers feedback. Yada Yada Yada.
So keep on writing your concerns. They are listening. Hopefully they will take some action soon.
Gillian
03-01-2007, 07:51 AM
It probably took 3-4 weeks for them to contact me. I missed the call, but responded to the (also generic) email. I guess I should return the phone call, but we've all been sick here.
They also called my travel agent!!! I filled her in, and promised to keep her updated.
DCDisney
03-01-2007, 09:02 AM
jello. However if my food comes with a dessert I do not need it and will just share with DS. He will ave plenty of sugar and dessert items between snacks and TS
I did worry about this issue but once we got there and saw the calorie contents on those prepacked adult desserts (most of those tiny things are more than 500 calories) I was happy my kids weren't getting them. For us it was much more reasonable to share 2 desserts among 4 of us especially since we still had snack credits and desserts at TS. My kids did get the diet jello at 1 meal and liked it. I didn't care if they ate 1 serving but I wouldn't let them have it multiple times. There are plenty of other kid desserts they could offer that are fun and a reasonable amount of unhealthy ;) hopefully the jello will be replaced soon....
Yvonne
dzorn
03-01-2007, 12:23 PM
From http://www.ivu.org/faq/gelatine.html -
"Gelatin (US spelling) or gelatine (British spelling) (used to make Jell-o and other desserts) is made from the boiled bones, skins and tendons of animals."
Yuck If I did not dislike jello before I sure do now. I do also try to limit my child to healthy choices and avoid artificial sweetener. And yes my child does have autism caused by vaccines.
Denise in MI
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