Inviting you all to come live in Massachusetts

[ScottieDog]

Yes, yes I know...it's no where near Disney, but how can any of you stand living anywhere else!!!

I'm writing because I'm just so proud of my state for putting the gay marriage debate to rest. Yes, contrary to what Gov. Mitt Romney might be saying from his bully pulpit the legistature went about it the right way and crushed an initiative to put same sex marriage on the ballot. With this, I tell you, if I didn't already live in MA I'd be talking to realtors and making plans. Just imagine a MA where the vast majority of the population is either gay, enlightend or a Disney fan......Oh Bliss.

Come on, come all.....Yeah!!! Massachusetts!!!! :cool1:

[mickeyfan1]

Wait; if that's where gay marriage is legal, then if I move there will the sanctity of my marriage be threatened? Ha!!!

I was wondering what was going to come of that, I heard after the local elections that someone was going to try to get the measure on the ballot, overriding the legislature. Wasn't it decided already by the Mass Supreme Court that this was all legal and anything less would be strictly unconstitutional? Which isn't to say some bozo (sorry, no offence to clowns, Bozo or otherwise) won't try to get the constitution amended, but come on. What harm has been done since the first day of legal gay marriage? People are not flocking there because of the obscure residency law, but those that have married, are they causing hetero marriages to fall apart? Has there been a HUGE drain on the coffers what with all the additional benefits being doled out to all the newly covered partner/spouses?

I think I will not take up your offer to move there, but I hope many gay and lesbian couples do. Little by little ignorance and intolerance will be erased. Maybe there needs to be some publication of statistics showing the effects of gay marriage on the economy in Mass. Maybe other states will look at Mass as a great example of how equal rights for all are the only thing.

[Tinkerboy00]

Scottie -- Im working on it.

Im visiting the first weekend of December. And hopefully will be moving to Boston in the spring.

I'll miss Disney and the Parks.............but THAT IS ALL I'll miss about Orlando and Florida.

[Boston5602]

As a Massachuseitte or is it Massachusian < ? > Anyway Any Gay Diser moving to Mass has to pass a vigorous test I will give personally , just stop by my house and let's see if your up to it. Wink Wink <VBG>


WELCOME TO MASSACHUSETTS :grouphug:

[Tinkerboy00]

As a Massachuseitte or is it Massachusian < ? > Anyway Any Gay Diser moving to Mass has to pass a vigorous test I will give personally , just stop by my house and let's see if your up to it. Wink Wink <VBG>


WELCOME TO MASSACHUSETTS :grouphug:

LOL, and what would be involved in that test huh???


My very good friends (a lesbian couple) currently live in Boston, and are trying desperately to convince us to move.

Im originally from Florida, and lived in DC for the past four years (and loved it). We made the decision to move back home to Florida to be near family, and are really really regretting that move.

So we are planning on moving back north..............DC or Boston............and just considering the past few months an extended vacation at Disney. :rotfl:

[OrlandoMike]

I left Worcester to move to sunny, warm, Disney infused Orlando.

Sorry, I'm staying put.

I do miss the culture, the Cape, the fact that I could drive to the moutains, the big city (NYC) and the food.

But I HATE the cold weather, so I'm stuck down here.

[Tinkerboy00]

I left Worcester to move to sunny, warm, Disney infused Orlando.

Sorry, I'm staying put.

I do miss the culture, the Cape, the fact that I could drive to the moutains, the big city (NYC) and the food.

But I HATE the cold weather, so I'm stuck down here.

ahhhh see..............I miss the cold weather, the city, etc.

I hate having to drive every where down here. And its not cold enough............yet. :teeth:

[OrlandoMike]

While the "T" was convienent when I lived in Boston, the driving doesn't bother me at all. Driving in Orlando is not that bad, IF you know the way about town. I sure dont misss 128! LOL

Hint #1....Avoid I-4 at all costs!

[Boston5602]

While the "T" was convienent when I lived in Boston, the driving doesn't bother me at all. Driving in Orlando is not that bad, IF you know the way about town. I sure dont misss 128! LOL

Hint #1....Avoid I-4 at all costs!


Gosh tonight it ONLY took me 25 minutes to go 4 miles on 128 good thing I only need to go on 2 highways and 1 expressway

[Tinkerboy00]

While the "T" was convienent when I lived in Boston, the driving doesn't bother me at all. Driving in Orlando is not that bad, IF you know the way about town. I sure dont misss 128! LOL

Hint #1....Avoid I-4 at all costs!

Oh I do. :teeth:

[ConcKahuna]

While the "T" was convienent when I lived in Boston, the driving doesn't bother me at all. Driving in Orlando is not that bad, IF you know the way about town. I sure dont misss 128! LOL

Hint #1....Avoid I-4 at all costs!

I-4: Urban planning gone horribly wrong!

[kaytieeldr]

I was wondering what was going to come of that, I heard after the local elections that someone was going to try to get the measure on the ballot, overriding the legislature. Wasn't it decided already by the Mass Supreme Court that this was all legal and anything less would be strictly unconstitutional?
Okay, what's going on:
= The Massachusetts Supreme Court made it legal in Massachusetts for gays to marry.
= People who are not involved or affected by this ruling but THINK it's their business, did follow the legal requirements* to start the process of getting the issue on the General Election ballots in 2008.
= Two consecutive State Legislatures have to vote on putting the question on the ballot, with at least 25% of them voting yes - in numbers, 50 out of 200 people.
= The legislature earlier voted to delay the vote until the day after the 2006 elections.
= On that day, instead of taking that vote, a simple majority of our Senators and Representatives voted to recess until January 2, the last day in THIS Legislative session.
= This effectively, but not absolutely, results in no vote being taken and therefore the question never making it to the ballot.

I have two questions:
= Why should any citizen be allowed to vote on anybody's civil rights; and
= Isn't DIVORCE far more dangerous to family values than is gay marriage?
Okay, three questions: Therefore, shouldn't we first be voting on whether residents have the right to get divorced?


*Although there are numerous voters who claimed they were tricked into signing a petition.

[PJesse25]

I just moved from the Boston area to Orlando. Getting used to driving is taking a bit of time (I didn't even own a car before), but I think I'll adapt. :)

I already don't miss the cold, even though people here have a very different definition of "cold". I was at MK Thursday in shorts and a t-shirt and everyone else was in sweaters, hoodies, etc. I am told, however, after one summer here, my blood will thin out and I will think 60s are cold, as well.

I am definitely proud, however, of having lived in MA when gay marriage was legalized and hope other states will come to realize that, as long as you marry another consenting adult, it doesn't matter who they are.

[ScottieDog]

Okay, what's going on:
= The Massachusetts Supreme Court made it legal in Massachusetts for gays to marry.
= People who are not involved or affected by this ruling but THINK it's their business, did follow the legal requirements* to start the process of getting the issue on the General Election ballots in 2008.
= Two consecutive State Legislatures have to vote on putting the question on the ballot, with at least 25% of them voting yes - in numbers, 50 out of 200 people.
= The legislature earlier voted to delay the vote until the day after the 2006 elections.
= On that day, instead of taking that vote, a simple majority of our Senators and Representatives voted to recess until January 2, the last day in THIS Legislative session.
= This effectively, but not absolutely, results in no vote being taken and therefore the question never making it to the ballot.

I have two questions:
= Why should any citizen be allowed to vote on anybody's civil rights; and
= Isn't DIVORCE far more dangerous to family values than is gay marriage?
Okay, three questions: Therefore, shouldn't we first be voting on whether residents have the right to get divorced?


*Although there are numerous voters who claimed they were tricked into signing a petition.


Hey, GREAT recap of events.....though you left out how Mitt Romney is all over the place claiming that the legislature broke the law. Oh, that guy makes me crazy!!!! :furious: :furious:

So, hey...to all of you who haven't yet heard of Mitt Romney, keep your guard up, he'll no doubt be running for Pres. in 2008!!!

[Boston5602]

Hey, GREAT recap of events.....though you left out how Mitt Romney is all over the place claiming that the legislature broke the law. Oh, that guy makes me crazy!!!! :furious: :furious:

So, hey...to all of you who haven't yet heard of Mitt Romney, keep your guard up, he'll no doubt be running for Pres. in 2008!!!


Our part time Governor , who is a mormon , also stated before gay wed was legal that marriage should stay between a woman and a man because thats the way its always been . Like I said He's a mormon !!!!!!

Our Gov also has spent more time OUT of state then IN state working, making himself look good to the voters on the right .

[ScottieDog]

Our part time Governor , who is a mormon , also stated before gay wed was legal that marriage should stay between a woman and a man because thats the way its always been . Like I said He's a mormon !!!!!!

Our Gov also has spent more time OUT of state then IN state working, making himself look good to the voters on the right .

AND...the SAME guy to promised the log cabbin republicans that he would never oppose gay marrige if they would agree to endorse him. Well they did and he lied!!!

[Longhairbear]

I grew up in Salem MA, and moved here to CA in '99. We are hoping that eventually MA will allow out of state couples to marry there. I know all my buddies back there would want to attend my wedding, even though I couldn't fly back for all of theirs.

[Tinkerboy00]

We've made our decision........................we're moving to Boston.........probably in March/April :cool1:

[TuckandStuiesMom]

Our part time Governor , who is a mormon , also stated before gay wed was legal that marriage should stay between a woman and a man because thats the way its always been . Like I said He's a mormon !!!!!!

Weeeell... to be entirely accurate, given his faith's background, it useta be between a whole buncha women and a man. You only gotta look at my DH's family tree to see multiple examples! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Just like many other neoconservative faiths, there is a whole lot of vocal "Thou shalt NOT-ing" going on at the higher (testosterone-driven -- don't even get me started on THAT -- LOL!!!) levels of church hierarchy. Talk to a mom or two privately and you might get a different picture. IMHO, the church's hurtful and exclusionary policies directed at gay and lesbian people will ultimately weaken it -- in that otherwise incredibly loving, energetic, creative, and spirit-driven potential members will find other ways to express their faith.

Totally love Rick's signature line: Love the homophobe; hate the homophobia.

[wallyb]

I really think this was Mitt Romney's attempt to look good
for his presidential run.
So when some conservative comes at him and says
“Hey, aren't you from that state the let's them there mos get hitched?”
He can go "Oh I TRIED to stop them! Believe me I DID."

I second the motion - watch out for Mitt -
he’s not what he seems.
I'm Glad to “see the back of him”.
:rolleyes:

[TuckandStuiesMom]

...them there mos...:rolleyes:

Wally Dear, the proper pronunciation is "them THAR mos" Sad to say... but you got the gist of it right for John McCain too. In this last lil rodeo we had in November, it was him in the flesh on the TV, talking up Prop. 107.

[lillielil]

::sigh:: I'm thinking about it, believe me. The wife (hehe! I get to say "wife" now!!!) and I both went to school up there, and miss it lots. We're in DC now, which I don't like nearly as much. I miss knitting all those warm socks to combat the cold New England winter. Maybe some day... depending on where employment takes us.

[NewEnglandCamper]

Mitt Romney for President!!!

I can't wait to leave "communist" Massachusetts (where the legislature or politicians doesn't listen to the voters) and move closer to Disney!!!

[wallyb]

Mitt Romney for President!!!

I can't wait to leave "communist" Massachusetts (where the legislature or politicians doesn't listen to the voters) and move closer to Disney!!!

Oh you mean Massachusetts where they don't want to
write discrimination into our laws.
Well gee! Sorry to see you go. Bye-bye!

[Boston5602]

Mitt Romney for President!!!


Usually Presidential candidates wait until they're running before they flip flop on issues. The last two years Mitt Romney changed EVERY SINGLE position he had that didn't jive with conservative religious right's thoughts on who they would vote for president!

It is no longer Mitt Romney for president, it is now ......

Mitt Romney , a man made into someone other then he his ,so he can run for president!!!!!

[huizarst]

Good Evening,

Starting in Feb, all can come to New Jersey for gay marriage. While they are not calling it marriage, for us living here we do get the same rights. Out of state couples welcome here!!!

Steven

[Viki]

Good Evening,

Starting in Feb, all can come to New Jersey for gay marriage. While they are not calling it marriage, for us living here we do get the same rights. Out of state couples welcome here!!!

Steven

Oooooh, so close and yet soooo far! :sad1:

[lovindonald]

I have a question totally unrelated to the OP.....why do you want to leave FLA to go to MA? Is it just for the gay marraige or are there other factors? I am just curious. I am not gay, not interested in marrying anyone right now, and hate politics but saw the OP title and thought I would read it. I have lived here all my life and am just dying to move to FLA. Will I be disappointed? Is there something I don't realize that I should? Just curious....TIA.

[ConcKahuna]

I have a question totally unrelated to the OP.....why do you want to leave FLA to go to MA? Is it just for the gay marraige or are there other factors? I am just curious. I am not gay, not interested in marrying anyone right now, and hate politics but saw the OP title and thought I would read it. I have lived here all my life and am just dying to move to FLA. Will I be disappointed? Is there something I don't realize that I should? Just curious....TIA.


FL is still very conservative, and only a few cities recognize gay rights or have bans on discrimination based on sexual orientation. They are also one of the few states with bans on gay couples adopting children (the others are Mississippi and Utah. Parts of Texas also have gay adoption bans). Florida has some very progressive areas like the Orlando/Kissimmee area and Broward and Dade counties (Ft. Lauderdale/Miami), but in general is a state so red it makes Ohio look blue.

[Chuck S]

So, what do you folks think will be the outcome of the 2008 election when an anti-gay marriage amendment will be on the ballot? Will it pass? Will it nullify existing marriages?

[donald...really]

Chuck, before this gets on the ballot in 2008, it needs to pass another legislative session with 25% of the vote. Our new governor supports gay marriage 100% (unlike our last miserable governor) and he has vowed that this fight to keep the initiative off the ballot is far from over. Let's hope he is right.

As of now, a slight majority of the residents in Massachusetts approve of gay marriage. Hopefully that number will grow between now and 2008 if this gets on the ballot. I have a feeling that if it does get on the ballot, the people spearheading this initiative will pull out all of the stops to twist and distort the truth, and try to demonize gay couples as much as they possibly can.

No matter what happens, the people who have been married since gay marriages have been legal in this state will stay married (including us, married July 28, 2005, the 10th anniversary of the day we met).