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The DIS-DVC Team
03-24-2006, 03:55 PM
A number of different threads (more than a dozen) have been started discussing the announcement of a DVC resort at the Animal Kingdom Lodge area.

To help keep the boards clean, all those threads are being merged here into this thread.

Please restrict all AKV discussion to this thread, and do not start any new threads, as they will only have to be merged by a moderator into this thread, or may just be closed instead.

Note that since Disney is calling it Animal Kingdom Villas, we will use the acronym AKV to describe the resort. Many have been using VAKL and may wish to start using AKV.

Thanks for your cooperation.

The DVC board moderators.

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The following is a copy of a post made by tikiman which shows an artists rendition, and a copy of the announcement text. It is reposted here for information......

http://www.tikiman2001.net/dvc_dak_432.jpg


October 11, 2006, Lake Buena Vista, Fla. – Disney Vacation Club announced today that it is building a new timeshare resort on Walt Disney World® property to meet ongoing strong demand for its unique vacation-ownership program.


Disney's Animal Kingdom® Villas will be part of Disney's Animal Kingdom® Lodge, which readers of Travel & Leisure Family magazine recently honored with the No. 4 spot on their list of the 50 greatest family resorts in the United States and Canada. The Disney Vacation Club® accommodations will feature intricate African-inspired details and home-like amenities, and most will offer sweeping views of an expanded savannah inhabited by a variety of African animals. These new accommodations are scheduled for development in phases with an anticipated opening beginning Fall 2007 and a completion date planned for Spring 2009. The project's first phase will include 134 remodeled accommodations on the fifth and sixth floors of the existing Disney's Animal Kingdom® Lodge building, and subsequent phases will include the construction of 324 vacation homes in a new building on the resort property, for a total of 458 Disney Vacation Club homes.


The project also calls for construction of a new table-service restaurant, themed pool and water-play island, fitness center, merchandise shop, sports and recreation facilities and more.


"We continue to see strong demand from families who want to build a lifetime of unforgettable memories by vacationing in ways they never dreamed possible," said Jim Lewis, President of Disney Vacation Club. "I am delighted to announce that our members will have yet another place to call home with Disney's Animal Kingdom® Villas. This begins another exciting new era for Disney Vacation Club as we continue to explore future destination possibilities both domestically and internationally."


Disney Vacation Club, now celebrating its milestone 15th anniversary, is an innovative timeshare program that lets families enjoy flexibility and savings on future vacations at Disney destinations and more than 500 other popular vacation sites around the world. Since 2000, Disney Vacation Club membership has doubled to include more than 300,000 individuals from over 100 countries and every U.S. state.


Disney's Animal Kingdom® Villas will be the eighth Disney Vacation Club Resort, joining five others at the Walt Disney World® Resort, one in Vero Beach, Fla., and one in Hilton Head Island, S.C. Disney Vacation Club has sold out of memberships at its first six resorts, and sales remain ahead of schedule at its seventh property, Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort & Spa, which opened in May 2004 near the Downtown Disney area at the Walt Disney World® Resort.

DVCTiff
10-11-2006, 10:12 PM
I just heard it from a DVC rep that DVC at Animal Kingdom Lodge was announced today (sorry if this has been reported already, but I was pretty darn excited).

She said there would be new construction with its own check-in, which is GREAT, plus two floors in the original Lodge (5+6 maybe) will be converted. I asked if every room would have a savannah view, and she suggested that while most would there will probably be two sets of points like at the Boardwalk (standard vs. preferred or something similar).

I missed the Members' meeting today but she said it hadn't even been announced there.

She had no deadline for the new construction but I would think the Lodge rooms would be ready first. She also mentioned that the rooms would be bigger, with the two bedrooms sleeping 9 and the grand villa sleeping 15. WOW!!!

isyt
10-11-2006, 10:29 PM
I just saw this on another site and was going to post here. I think its exciting, although I am still holding out for Contemporary. :cheer2:

:dance3: :Pinkbounc :rotfl: :rotfl2: popcorn:: Let the conversation begin!!! :happytv:

calypso*a*go-go
10-11-2006, 10:31 PM
That would be awesome if it pans out. We've heard so many rumors on these boards about AKL and CR becoming DVC options that I wish I had a point for everytime it happened...I'd be able to stay in a DVC villa all year long. Let's keep our fingers crossed!

Boston5602
10-11-2006, 10:33 PM
hmmm maybe gonna have to work some overtime to get some VAKL points
:cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

JimFitz
10-11-2006, 10:42 PM
I just heard it from a DVC rep that DVC at Animal Kingdom Lodge was announced today (sorry if this has been reported already, but I was pretty darn excited).

She said there would be new construction with its own check-in, which is GREAT, plus two floors in the original Lodge (5+6 maybe) will be converted. I asked if every room would have a savannah view, and she suggested that while most would there will probably be two sets of points like at the Boardwalk (standard vs. preferred or something similar).

I missed the Members' meeting today but she said it hadn't even been announced there.

She had no deadline for the new construction but I would think the Lodge rooms would be ready first. She also mentioned that the rooms would be bigger, with the two bedrooms sleeping 9 and the grand villa sleeping 15. WOW!!!

Was it announced to Employees only?

Scotch
10-11-2006, 10:43 PM
Is this for real?

TammyAlphabet
10-11-2006, 10:47 PM
I just saw this on another site and was going to post here. I think its exciting, although I am still holding out for Contemporary. :cheer2:

:dance3: :Pinkbounc :rotfl: :rotfl2: popcorn:: Let the conversation begin!!! :happytv:

Link please!!!!!

3DisneyKids
10-11-2006, 10:57 PM
ALL of us here are excited about WHERE the new DVC will be...even if we don't want VAKL (which many do), we all basically just want to KNOW. So, if you are going to post this as fact, please post the link and/or specifically cite where the info. came from....

Thanks :goodvibes

JandD Mom
10-11-2006, 11:09 PM
I'd love to know too...

We don't want it, but if anyone out there is looking to unload some BWV points to buy in to AKV, please let me know! :thumbsup2

2angelsinheaven
10-11-2006, 11:11 PM
Animal Kingdom Villas was just announced on Local Channel 9 Orlando, the new DVC will feature 450 rooms, restaurants, a pool, some shops... it is expected to be open within 1 year, and finished in 2009.

Seahunt
10-11-2006, 11:12 PM
:wave: This is just being reported on the 11:00 news channel 9 WFTV Orlando station - sorry nothing on their website yet (wftv.com) but will probably show up by tomorrow AM....

They said rooms to open by fall 2007, completed by 2008 - 450+ rooms - called Animal Kingdom Villas - featuring pools, fitness center - trying to type as fast as I listen, sorry I didn't get it all!

:Pinkbounc

LisaS
10-11-2006, 11:16 PM
Yahoooooo!!!!!! :Pinkbounc Thank you to our DIS board members in Florida for posting the confirmation !!! So we'll have to get used to a new acronym now: AKV!

Sammie
10-11-2006, 11:25 PM
Yes it is real, and I think I mentioned I really thought it would be announced in October and I was told the new facility would be to the left of the existing one.

For all you Contemporary lovers I was told it was not out of the running, just not going to be first.

3DisneyKids
10-11-2006, 11:26 PM
From the DVC-operations board:

Just re-posting it here since this is where the "rumors" are always discussed...

Animal Kingdom Villas was just announced on Local Channel 9 Orlando, the new DVC will feature 450 rooms, restaurants, a pool, some shops... it is expected to be open within 1 year, and finished in 2009.

Name will be Animal Kingdom Villas (AKV, not VAKL as we have all been saying!)

Get those checkbooks ready....

castleri
10-11-2006, 11:26 PM
any mention of price per point?

MOM POPPINS
10-11-2006, 11:30 PM
Yeah!!!!!!!!!
:)

LisaS
10-11-2006, 11:35 PM
Yes it is real, and I think I mentioned I really thought it would be announced in October and I was told the new facility would be to the left of the existing one.

For all you Contemporary lovers I was told it was not out of the running, just not going to be first.Back when you posted that info I looked at a satellite image and it really makes sense to build it to the left. I hope they post some drawings of what the new buillding will look like, villa floorplans and how they might be decorated. Details!! We need details!!

Disney1fan2002
10-11-2006, 11:37 PM
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1248780

Oh please let it be true! I am on my way to check out any real source!

DonnaL
10-11-2006, 11:40 PM
I wonder if the model rooms are just about ready......we're headed to SSR on Saturday and I would just LOVE to see the models. I had planned to stop by and see our guide, Karen Guyder, anyway........now it's become an absolute "must do"!!!

BEACHCLUBVILLAS
10-11-2006, 11:45 PM
Wow! Thanks for reporting. Anything about CRV?

TreesyB
10-11-2006, 11:45 PM
:thanks: :rainbow: :cheer2:

I'm so excited! Now I'm going to have to find a better job!

3DisneyKids
10-11-2006, 11:45 PM
Nope...not a peep on that as far as I know.

Beca
10-11-2006, 11:52 PM
That's good news!! I know a lot of people will be really excited about this!!

Sammie
10-11-2006, 11:55 PM
The employees have not been told, including those at the Lodge, I think this was a leak prior to the official announcement.

DonnaL
10-11-2006, 11:55 PM
Does anyone know offhand how many rooms VWL and BCV have? I'm just trying to get a feel for the size of AKV.......I think I have a floor plan somewhere of VWL.....I don't think there are 450 rooms though, so, it would appear AKV is going to be a nice size.....good......because with our youngest leaving for college next year we're not ready to add-on quite yet and I don't want those points to sell out!!! Hmmmm......maybe I'll need to go back to work full-time.......

JoeEpcotRocks
10-11-2006, 11:56 PM
:thanks: :rainbow: :cheer2:

I'm so excited! Now I'm going to have to find a better job!

I think I'll have my wife get a better job. ;)

She's the one who wants us to stay there soon. (We own at BW, which we both love.) :sunny:

vonpluto
10-12-2006, 12:08 AM
The employees have not been told, including those at the Lodge, I think this was a leak prior to the official announcement.

According to the post on another forum(magic), the announcement was made by Jim Lewis at a CM meeting. They were told this was official and could be shared. :)

DonnaL
10-12-2006, 12:09 AM
Found the floor plan of VWL......it looks like there about 280 rooms....give or take a few. So, AKV will be quite a bit larger if that 460 figure is correct....which is good, very good. Oh.........I can't wait to see the models.......I so hope they're ready to show....if not, we'll be there again in January......

Sammie
10-12-2006, 12:10 AM
According to the post on another forum(magic), the announcement was made by Jim Lewis at a CM meeting. They were told this was official and could be shared. :)

you would think they would tell the Lodge CMs.

dwelty
10-12-2006, 12:14 AM
Congrats to you AKL fans!!! Now Disney needs to announce a DLR DVC and it will be a home run!
P.S. took the family to Disneyland this week. Takled to 2 different DVC reps who said their bosses were in Orlando this week for a "Gameplan" session. They both thought there would be a joint AKL and DLR DVC announcement comming soon. If AKL was a leak, there may be more to the story. Only time will tell.

LIFERBABE
10-12-2006, 12:22 AM
Yeah!!!!

We probably wont purchase, but this is great news.

Sammie I remember your post too about the location. :thumbsup2

Believe it or not, I have never even visited the AKL or laid eyes on the place. I heard it is stunning and I am saving it for when I feel like I have seen it all at WDW and then I will have that gem :wizard:

I wonder how much per point too!

Sammie
10-12-2006, 12:23 AM
Anyone else think this is kinda half axx way to announce it. I think the least they could have done it put it on the members site. :rolleyes:

LisaS
10-12-2006, 12:27 AM
Anyone else think this is kinda half axx way to announce it. I think the least they could have done it put it on the members site. :rolleyes:Or include it in the email that came out today (about the $15 discount on add-ons at SSR). But if you're right about it being a leak, then maybe they had planned to have it up on the website tomorrow and got scooped by channel 9.

MS was closed as of 2:30 or so this afternoon. I did wonder if maybe they were being briefed about a new DVC resort. Or maybe it was just a coincidence...

calypso*a*go-go
10-12-2006, 01:03 AM
I really do think it was leaked out as I felt certain any announcements would come during the Member Cruise (which is only days away). Boy, I would sure love it if there was a Disneyland project in conjunction with this...we members on the west coast need a little lovin' too!!!

KyleRayner
10-12-2006, 01:16 AM
I saw this posted on the wdwmagic website as well. I hope its true. I can't wait for the official announcement which will have some more details!!!

KyleRayner
10-12-2006, 01:17 AM
I saw this posted on the wdwmagic website as well. I hope it's true. I can't wait for the official announcement and hopefully it will have some more details.

KyleRayner
10-12-2006, 01:19 AM
I saw this posted on the wdwmagic website as well. I hope it's true. I can't wait for the official announcement to come out and hopefully it will have some more details.

I Love DVC
10-12-2006, 02:31 AM
Mouse Planet reported that showrooms for AK villas are currently being built at SSR. You definatley are not dreaming!!!

jmatias
10-12-2006, 03:49 AM
:dance3: :dance3: :dance3:

Wow! Hope this is true....we love AKL!

Can't wait for more info.

Jen

Olaf
10-12-2006, 05:44 AM
I'm guessing this is why we got the e-mail last night about the $15 dollars a point off for SSR.

Skip Wiley
10-12-2006, 05:46 AM
Here's a link to the article posted online:

AKL DVC Article (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/osceola/orl-disneyhotel1206oct12,0,4255512.story?coll=orl-news-headlines-osceola)

Olaf
10-12-2006, 05:52 AM
Danke! :)

rigsby25
10-12-2006, 06:00 AM
Wow. DVC just keeps getting better and better!

dianeschlicht
10-12-2006, 06:14 AM
:banana: :cheer2: :yay: :dance3: :bounce: :Pinkbounc :cool1:

Scratch42
10-12-2006, 06:32 AM
But is it "AN OFFICIAL DVC ANNOUNCEMENT?"

crazy4wdw
10-12-2006, 06:59 AM
Disney unveils new time shares

Sara K. Clarke | Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted October 12, 2006

Disney time shares are coming to the Animal Kingdom, with a plan for 458 units, the company said Wednesday.

According to Disney, the time shares will be a mix of new construction and renovated accommodations in part of the Animal Kingdom Lodge. They'll feature African-inspired details and most will offer views of a savannah inhabited by a variety of animals.

Disney's Animal Kingdom Villas will be the company's eighth time-share property -- the sixth at Walt Disney World -- and was hailed Wednesday as a smart business decision.

"It's a major plus," said Michael Hewell, a former Disney employee who now escorts guests through the parks with his company, Michael's VIPs, and owns the online Web site, TourGuideMike. "Disney's going to sell every single one of them."

As for the choice of Animal Kingdom, Hewell said, "It's the true retreat," and added, "For those people who want to rest away from the theme park madness, they now have a choice."

Time shares have long been popular in Central Florida, but more so in recent years. In 2001, 10 percent of Orlando visitors stayed in time shares. Last year, that number had increased to 15 percent.

From 2001 to 2005, the number of time-share units jumped 26 percent, from 15,157 to 19,099, according to the Orlando/Orange County Convention & Visitors Bureau. Hotel-room growth, on the other hand, grew only 2 percent during the same five-year period.

Disney's entry into the time-share market was a big help to the industry, said Robert J. Webb, a veteran real estate and time-share industry attorney with the Baker Hostetler law firm in Orlando.

"Disney's entry was part of a paradigm shift" in the 1990s, Webb said, when brand names such as Marriott and Disney entered the time-share field, long dominated by small operators. "It helped bring a lot of credibility to the industry."

The expansion of the Disney time-share holdings is a reflection of the strength of the industry and Disney's commitment to its resort business, said Webb, who has represented Disney as an outside counsel in the past.

"It's an excellent example of the evolution," Webb said, of hospitality companies relying on a mix of hotels and time shares for accommodating guests.

Disney historian Michael Broggie said the new time shares are a continuing affirmation of Walt Disney's decision to build in Central Florida.

"It also is a reflection of the confidence that [Disney chief] Bob Iger has in Central Florida and investing the company's assets there," Broggie said.

Development of the Animal Kingdom Villas is scheduled in phases, with units to begin opening in fall 2007. The project is scheduled to be completed by spring 2009.

The first phase will include 134 remodeled accommodations on the fifth and sixth floors of the Animal Kingdom Lodge, and additional phases will include the building of 324 vacation properties in a new building at the resort.

JLitfin
10-12-2006, 07:06 AM
Have anyone heard when sales are to begin? Plus, does disney do pre-construction prices, if so I might be interested.

dianeschlicht
10-12-2006, 07:12 AM
All I can say is: :cool1: :Pinkbounc :banana: :cheer2: :woohoo: :dance3: :bounce:

Beth
10-12-2006, 07:16 AM
She also mentioned that the rooms would be bigger, with the two bedrooms sleeping 9 and the grand villa sleeping 15. WOW!!!

This really surprises me.

If they're going to make this change to the room configurations, do you think they would "continue" with this new layout in future DVC villas... to be consistent?

jimmytammy
10-12-2006, 07:25 AM
There is a post on the News and Rumors board that I will try to move to here. This sounds like a go.

Here it is...
QUOTE=crazy4wdw]Disney unveils new time shares

Sara K. Clarke | Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted October 12, 2006

Disney time shares are coming to the Animal Kingdom, with a plan for 458 units, the company said Wednesday.

According to Disney, the time shares will be a mix of new construction and renovated accommodations in part of the Animal Kingdom Lodge. They'll feature African-inspired details and most will offer views of a savannah inhabited by a variety of animals.

Disney's Animal Kingdom Villas will be the company's eighth time-share property -- the sixth at Walt Disney World -- and was hailed Wednesday as a smart business decision.

"It's a major plus," said Michael Hewell, a former Disney employee who now escorts guests through the parks with his company, Michael's VIPs, and owns the online Web site, TourGuideMike. "Disney's going to sell every single one of them."

As for the choice of Animal Kingdom, Hewell said, "It's the true retreat," and added, "For those people who want to rest away from the theme park madness, they now have a choice."

Time shares have long been popular in Central Florida, but more so in recent years. In 2001, 10 percent of Orlando visitors stayed in time shares. Last year, that number had increased to 15 percent.

From 2001 to 2005, the number of time-share units jumped 26 percent, from 15,157 to 19,099, according to the Orlando/Orange County Convention & Visitors Bureau. Hotel-room growth, on the other hand, grew only 2 percent during the same five-year period.

Disney's entry into the time-share market was a big help to the industry, said Robert J. Webb, a veteran real estate and time-share industry attorney with the Baker Hostetler law firm in Orlando.

"Disney's entry was part of a paradigm shift" in the 1990s, Webb said, when brand names such as Marriott and Disney entered the time-share field, long dominated by small operators. "It helped bring a lot of credibility to the industry."

The expansion of the Disney time-share holdings is a reflection of the strength of the industry and Disney's commitment to its resort business, said Webb, who has represented Disney as an outside counsel in the past.

"It's an excellent example of the evolution," Webb said, of hospitality companies relying on a mix of hotels and time shares for accommodating guests.

Disney historian Michael Broggie said the new time shares are a continuing affirmation of Walt Disney's decision to build in Central Florida.

"It also is a reflection of the confidence that [Disney chief] Bob Iger has in Central Florida and investing the company's assets there," Broggie said.

Development of the Animal Kingdom Villas is scheduled in phases, with units to begin opening in fall 2007. The project is scheduled to be completed by spring 2009.

The first phase will include 134 remodeled accommodations on the fifth and sixth floors of the Animal Kingdom Lodge, and additional phases will include the building of 324 vacation properties in a new building at the resort.

Jerry W. Jackson and Tim Barker of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Sara K. Clarke can be reached at 407-420-5664 or skclarke@orlandosentinel.com[/QUOTE]

MinnieGirl33
10-12-2006, 07:27 AM
Here's the link !

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-disneyhotel1206oct12,0,6599738.story?coll=orl-business-headlines

dianeschlicht
10-12-2006, 07:33 AM
:Pinkbounc :cheer2: :woohoo: :bounce:

DVC Grammy
10-12-2006, 07:35 AM
Wahoo! :woohoo: You made my day! :banana: :Pinkbounc :yay:
Anyone know when the selling begins?

lisareniff
10-12-2006, 07:36 AM
Well I guess that is why MS was closed yesterday afternoon!

I sooo glad something was finally announced! :sunny:

DebbieB
10-12-2006, 07:37 AM
I wonder where the extra bedding will be? They aren't going to list "sleeping 9" unless they are providing bedding for 9.

DVC Grammy
10-12-2006, 07:38 AM
:Pinkbounc :cheer2: :woohoo: :bounce:

I second your motion! (And I raise you :banana: :yay: :bounce: :dance3: :dancer: :jumping1: :jumping3: :jumping2: !) :rotfl:

MonkeyPants
10-12-2006, 07:42 AM
excellent....thought I have a feeling if that isnt your home place you are never going to get in

MonkeyPants
10-12-2006, 07:45 AM
hmmm maybe gonna have to work some overtime to get some VAKL points
:cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:


indeed..I hate working overtime...but this could get me to do it

sk8belle
10-12-2006, 07:59 AM
Oh, please, please, please let this be for real!!!
:cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: :yay: :yay: :yay:

StacyPop
10-12-2006, 08:01 AM
I didnt get an email last night. Did anybody else??

SamR
10-12-2006, 08:02 AM
But is it "AN OFFICIAL DVC ANNOUNCEMENT?"I'm in Orlando right now, and last night the local news stations were reporting it as an official Disney announcement. They said that some rooms would open in about a year, with the full complex (approx 450 DVC rooms, restaurant, shops) to be finished in 2009.

DiznEeyore
10-12-2006, 08:02 AM
Does anyone know offhand how many rooms VWL and BCV have? I'm just trying to get a feel for the size of AKV.......I think I have a floor plan somewhere of VWL.....I don't think there are 450 rooms though, so, it would appear AKV is going to be a nice size.....good......because with our youngest leaving for college next year we're not ready to add-on quite yet and I don't want those points to sell out!!! Hmmmm......maybe I'll need to go back to work full-time.......

VWL has 136 villas
BCV has 205 villas
BWV has 383 villas

AKV is gonna be HUGE!! :thumbsup2

Dina
10-12-2006, 08:05 AM
I hope that 2009 is right. We won't be able to add on until 2008-- and I'd really love to add on at AKLV!!!!

chris1gill
10-12-2006, 08:08 AM
Does this mean they are getting rid of the AK Concierge?? That was the best concierge service on Disney property IMHO.... that's too bad...

I wonder how they are going to do this with minimal disturbance to the animals?

conciergekelly
10-12-2006, 08:11 AM
Yea! I can't wait. Just when I think that I can't love DVC anymore than I do. It has been the purchase that just keeps giving. :cloud9:

Donna L

Here are the other villa sizes
OKW 531
SSR 552
VB 172
HH 102

chris1gill
10-12-2006, 08:14 AM
I know these questions are a bit early.... but if they are planning on opening units next Fall, then owners should start to be able to book within the next couple of months... that would lead me to believe sales will start soon & we should be able to book at the 7 month mark....

I'll be sad to see if AKL Concierge go, as it was a great concierge... maybe they re-located it?

I'm wondering how they will fit 9 into the 2 bedroom as well... will that mean that a 1 bedroom will sleep five? So many questions, so little information :confused3

MonkeyPants
10-12-2006, 08:14 AM
VWL has 136 villas
BCV has 205 villas
BWV has 383 villas

AKV is gonna be HUGE!! :thumbsup2


I think HUGE might be a bit of a stretch, I am still betting it'll be hard to book without having home points there

erikthewise
10-12-2006, 08:24 AM
It's also on Allearsnet.com, and that seals it for me. There are usually pretty conservative about what they post.

LOVETHATMOUSE
10-12-2006, 08:26 AM
YEAH! That gives us another year or so to pay off our SSR and do an addon or another membership at AKL!!!

liznboys
10-12-2006, 08:29 AM
How exciting!! I was kinda wondering if something was "about to happen" when I got that $15 off email too...

WDW LifeLong Fan
10-12-2006, 08:35 AM
The Link:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-disneyhotel1206oct12,0,6599738.story?coll=orl-business-headlines

dianeschlicht
10-12-2006, 08:37 AM
No way to know the answers to those questions until DVD announces the details. We can do a lot of speculating, but that's about it. I'm going to assume that the points needed for a ressie will be significantly more than at SSR.

Twingle
10-12-2006, 08:43 AM
There are so many threads now, I'm not sure where I read this.

DVC has converted a part of SSR to showcase a VAK room? Does anyone know where this is, and if it is open? We're going back October 25 - 29, and I'd love to see it.

Thanks so much for any help! :sunny:

chris1gill
10-12-2006, 08:43 AM
I wonder if the point requirements will be similar to those at the BW preferred level? I wish they'd release more information...

DVC Grammy
10-12-2006, 08:44 AM
I think HUGE might be a bit of a stretch, I am still betting it'll be hard to book without having home points there

I agree that initially, it'll be easier to book if you have points at AKLV, but at 450+ units, it will be almost as big as SSR and OKW and when complete, there'll be availability at the 7-month mark (more so, off-season).
I think it's great that it'll be large; I've wondered why DVD made the VWL so tiny. :confused3
Does anyone know if the expiration date will be the same as SSR, or maybe even later?
Obviously, TPTB have a lot of faith in the future of DVC! :cheer2:
:woohoo: :jumping2: :jumping2:

kespo
10-12-2006, 08:45 AM
AKL is one of our favorite places to stay. When we bought in as a DVC member we were bummed that it was so many points to try and stay there. We ar so excited!!!!

chris1gill
10-12-2006, 08:46 AM
There are so many threads now, I'm not sure where I read this.

DVC has converted a part of SSR to showcase a VAK room? Does anyone know where this is, and if it is open? We're going back October 25 - 29, and I'd love to see it.

Thanks so much for any help! :sunny:

I think rumor was that it's in the old Theatre... My DH is going to Disney next weekend, I'm going to send him over to try to find the showcase rooms!

DiznEeyore
10-12-2006, 08:48 AM
I think HUGE might be a bit of a stretch, I am still betting it'll be hard to book without having home points there
I just meant in comparison to the others. Obviously it's not mammoth like SSR. ;)

jennz
10-12-2006, 08:49 AM
This is very exciting! I wonder when they go on sale and what the price will be...

Jynohn
10-12-2006, 08:54 AM
I didnt get an email last night. Did anybody else??

I didn't get one either. There was a recent glitch in the site (I had to call MS last week because I could no longer log in). I just checked this morning and I was no longer signed up to receive emails. You may want to check your info too to make sure you're signed up. Don't want to miss any more exciting announcements!

MickeyBabe
10-12-2006, 09:02 AM
I would guess that the "Master" bedroom will now have two queensized beds.

Even with the suggestion that the rooms will be bigger than the standard DVC property rooms I can't imagine they would make them any larger than the units in OKW.

Just speculation...

http://www.foxes2.be/animal%20smilies/LionKing.gif

sean-1966
10-12-2006, 09:03 AM
I'm surprised this isn't here yet.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-disneyhotel1206oct12,0,6599738.story?coll=orl-business-headlines

Good Ol Gal
10-12-2006, 09:05 AM
I just got an email about it also and came here to spread the news!

I wonder when we'll hear more about it!

ADP
10-12-2006, 09:08 AM
We will be staying at SSR in a week or so. I will be checking with our vacation guide while we are there to see if we can view the models. Doubtful, but you never know. I will ask him about the details as well, but you know how that goes. A lot of times we know information before the guides.

rparmfamily
10-12-2006, 09:09 AM
Wow! Can't wait to hear more!

ROBOTBLDMOM
10-12-2006, 09:10 AM
I was making reservations this morning for my vacation and I asked the CM
helping me if these "rumors" about AKV was true. She said that they are not allowed to say where the new resort would be but that Disney is building a new vacation club location. i asked about the news reports and she still would not confirm location. I guess that Disney is planning their own annoucement.

Hope this helps!

LoveBWVVBR
10-12-2006, 09:12 AM
Does this mean that the Contemporary DVC thing was just to throw us off the trail then :confused3 Oh, and I'm also excited for the AKL Villas :banana:

skibum
10-12-2006, 09:13 AM
Wow!!! :thumbsup2

BCV23
10-12-2006, 09:13 AM
I would guess that the "Master" bedroom will now have two queensized beds.

Even with the suggestion that the rooms will be bigger than the standard DVC property rooms I can't imagine they would make them any larger than the units in OKW.

Just speculation...

http://www.foxes2.be/animal%20smilies/LionKing.gif

But that would make occupancy 10. What about a daybed in the MBR.....or somewhere else?

pilferk
10-12-2006, 09:19 AM
Calling today to be put on the wait list for point purchase. We're not interested in buying til they have 2 BR (even lockoffs) available since our brood (officially now...we're 5) needs the larger accomodations.

Wonder what the price per point will be......

nevertez
10-12-2006, 09:19 AM
How long did it take from the SSR announcement to publish a pt scale and able to enter into contracts for pre-construction?

burnsoc
10-12-2006, 09:20 AM
I think HUGE might be a bit of a stretch, I am still betting it'll be hard to book without having home points there

At 400+ units, I don't think it will be that hard to get reservations even if you don't own there. It will be twice the size of VWL or BCV.

MELSMICE
10-12-2006, 09:21 AM
:thumbsup2

DVC Grammy
10-12-2006, 09:22 AM
I would guess that the "Master" bedroom will now have two queensized beds.

Even with the suggestion that the rooms will be bigger than the standard DVC property rooms I can't imagine they would make them any larger than the units in OKW.

Just speculation...

http://www.foxes2.be/animal%20smilies/LionKing.gif

Almost everything after the initial announcement is pure speculation, and ain't it just grand??? Imagine how much fun these boards are going to be over the coming months! :banana:
I can already hear the Dis-boards a'buzzin! :thumbsup2

chris1gill
10-12-2006, 09:22 AM
But that would make occupancy 10. What about a daybed in the MBR.....or somewhere else?


Maybe they will put a fold out chair in the living room similar to what they have put in the All Star Suites?

Or a daybed somewhere....

Tigger031266
10-12-2006, 09:22 AM
Help me out fellow DVCers that have stayed at the AKL. IS this any good. Is it fun staying on the 5th floor? Are the lower floors more desireable upper floors or is it opinion?

I am sooooooo excited!!!! I could not be happiers. DVCer's are so lucky.

TammyAlphabet
10-12-2006, 09:23 AM
I am so excited about this that I am actually giggling. A giggling 42 year old woman! I have already called my guide and I am going to get on her list of people to add on as soon as she calls me back. Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

BCV23
10-12-2006, 09:29 AM
I wonder where the extra bedding will be? They aren't going to list "sleeping 9" unless they are providing bedding for 9.

My guess is a daybed somewhere...maybe the MBR. The daybeds in the new Polynesian rooms are very nice and fold up into a couch when not needed as a bed....sort of futon style but much nicer than futons I've seen.

Oreo Cookie
10-12-2006, 09:30 AM
Tammy - Add me onto the giggling list, and I'm 40 (well soon to be 41). AKL is the where I would want to do an add-on, so I can't wait until they start selling shares. :cool1: :cool1:

conciergekelly
10-12-2006, 09:30 AM
Tigger ,I stayed at AKL 5th floor. It had a great view of the savanah. The other floors seemed to have a nice view as well. There aren't many obstacles in the way (ie trees , brush etc.) I just loved it there. The whole feel of the resort grows on you, the colors, the music, the lighting, the smells...Ahhh :cloud9:

DonnaL
10-12-2006, 09:32 AM
There was some information on the boards several weeks ago about the SSR theatre being converted to model rooms. I believe this had been confirmed by someone in DVC.......not sure though. We're heading to SSR on Saturday and I just placed a call to our guide, Karen Guyder, to let her know I'll be stopping by for further info on AKV. Hopefully, we'll be able to take a peek at the models while we're there!!!

BCV23
10-12-2006, 09:34 AM
Maybe they will put a fold out chair in the living room similar to what they have put in the All Star Suites?

Or a daybed somewhere....

Oh, the fold out chair is a good guess too. :thumbsup2

DVCGammy, it is fun isn't it. :cool1:

JandD Mom
10-12-2006, 09:36 AM
I wonder if DVC is going to offer preferred view rooms and standard view rooms like they have at BW? That resort would seem to lend itself to that sort of split.

pilferk
10-12-2006, 09:37 AM
Help me out fellow DVCers that have stayed at the AKL. IS this any good. Is it fun staying on the 5th floor? Are the lower floors more desireable upper floors or is it opinion?

I am sooooooo excited!!!! I could not be happiers. DVCer's are so lucky.

We loved the 5th floor. Stayed there in a deluxe King bed room, with Arusha Savannah view, out on Zebra Trail back in '01, just after they opened. You are a bit more removed from the animals, but you also have a more expansive view, IMHO. Of course, we had cameras with very good zoom capabilities, so that helped out, too.

And remember, the remodels are only Phase I. You buy early, use those acomodations to your advantage, and then use the new facility once it's built.

:)

MonkeyPants
10-12-2006, 09:38 AM
I agree that initially, it'll be easier to book if you have points at AKLV, but at 450+ units, it will be almost as big as SSR and OKW and when complete, there'll be availability at the 7-month mark (more so, off-season).
I think it's great that it'll be large; I've wondered why DVD made the VWL so tiny. :confused3
Does anyone know if the expiration date will be the same as SSR, or maybe even later?
Obviously, TPTB have a lot of faith in the future of DVC! :cheer2:
:woohoo: :jumping2: :jumping2:




really?? almost as big as OKW or SSR?? for some reason I was thinking those had a lot more units...in that case :banana: :dance3: :cheer2: :dance3: :banana: I am even more excited :rotfl2:

DonnaL
10-12-2006, 09:45 AM
I'm with Dina on this one........we're not in a position until about 2008 to add on either (unless we sold our 120 SSR points, which I'm not about to do and we'll never lose our 150 VWL points) so 2009 is good timing for us also....hopefully they won't sell out before construction is complete!!!

Wigit12
10-12-2006, 09:54 AM
I would prefer not to add-on until 2008 also, but I'm afraid to wait with all the excitement. I just HAVE to own some of these points. I can't imagine the 7 month window will work with this one.

Disney1fan2002
10-12-2006, 09:54 AM
I'm with Dina on this one........we're not in a position until about 2008 to add on either (unless we sold our 120 SSR points, which I'm not about to do and we'll never lose our 150 VWL points) so 2009 is good timing for us also....hopefully they won't sell out before construction is complete!!!


I am this[ ] close to paying off our contract. I was not planning on buying in anymore, but with this announcement, my brain is screaming!

I think I want to hold out for DCL Villas! :lmao:

CarolA
10-12-2006, 09:56 AM
I hope this is true. I am doing the :cool1: at my desk....

Wonder what it will cost and how many points I am going to have to sell to do this.. :rotfl2:

3DisneyKids
10-12-2006, 09:57 AM
We stayed 5th floor back in 2004 and this was our view...so yeah, I'd say the views are good! :goodvibes

Ok, I understand the sizes of BCV and BWV and now 45o in AKV...how big is OKW and SSR? Trying to figure out the whole size thing...

I bet the phones at MS are ringing off the hook!

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m216/3DisneyKids/GiraffesAKL4cropped.jpg

MiaSRN62
10-12-2006, 09:57 AM
This is terrific news ! Love the atmosphere at this resort.

crcormier
10-12-2006, 09:57 AM
Hopefully the Contemporary rumors still prove true at some point, but I did see this story about the VAKL on the Orlando Sentinel's website so it is definitely true.

Yay for new villas at the AKL! Boo for me not being able to afford any points there!

Muushka
10-12-2006, 09:58 AM
So I wonder what becomes of the CRV or VCR rumor? I honestly thought that would be the next DVC.

I am so happy that so many people will be enjoying AKLV. I can see staying there for a day or 2, but probably not a week. We stayed there a few years ago (got a great concierge rate) and really enjoyed the resort. And it is beautiful.

Did anyone find the statementAs for the choice of Animal Kingdom, Hewell said, "It's the true retreat," and added, "For those people who want to rest away from the theme park madness, they now have a choice." strange? Hello, VWL, OKW?? I thought they were also a choice for that!

And as someone else mentioned, this will help take the strain off of some of the really popular resorts. :banana:

DVC Grammy
10-12-2006, 10:01 AM
really?? almost as big as OKW or SSR?? for some reason I was thinking those had a lot more units...in that case :banana: :dance3: :cheer2: :dance3: :banana: I am even more excited :rotfl2:

What I meant is that the size of AKV is about 100 rooms bigger than BWV, and about 100 rooms smaller than SSR & OKW. IMO, 458 rooms is big enough so that the 7-month window will be do-able (when it's complete). Certainly BWV is do-able at 7 months. :thumbsup2

CarolA
10-12-2006, 10:03 AM
Has anyone actually talked to thier guide yet??? When can we sign up?

(And I am a giggling 46 year old!)

pilferk
10-12-2006, 10:05 AM
So I wonder what becomes of the CRV or VCR rumor? I honestly thought that would be the next DVC.

I am so happy that so many people will be enjoying AKLV. I can see staying there for a day or 2, but probably not a week. We stayed there a few years ago (got a great concierge rate) and really enjoyed the resort. And it is beautiful.

Did anyone find the statement strange? Hello, VWL, OKW?? I thought they were also a choice for that!

And as someone else mentioned, this will help take the strain off of some of the really popular resorts. :banana:

There are several rumors going around as to why CRV was either back burnered or poo poo'd completely.

1) The cost of the land was just too high for DVD to aquire right now.

2) The cost of construction, and the resulting requirements to build so close to Bay lake, were both expensive and outside the timeline Disney wanted for completion because of the number of remaining SSR points

3) Worry about site lines from MK

4) Worry about the ability of the CR infrastructure to handle the influx of CRV guests using their facilities.

The rumbling seems to be that both sites were actually neck and neck during the consideration process and VAKL got the green light first. That's not to say that they've completely abandoned the idea for CRV, I guess. But if it's true they've now decided to renovate the North Tower rooms, I'd say it becomes less likely that the CRV will ever happen...at least not in the format or on the site we saw design documents on.

However, it may be that all the CRV prep work just showed them that the project needs further time for preparation of both the site and the infrastructure and it could be that CRV will happen sometime in the future. We'll have to wait and see.

pilferk
10-12-2006, 10:07 AM
Has anyone actually talked to thier guide yet??? When can we sign up?

(And I am a giggling 46 year old!)

We don't have a guide...yet. But my wife is going to call while the kids are napping today (around 1 PM) to see if we can get on a wait list, at least.

I'll pass along any info I get when I get it.

ralphd
10-12-2006, 10:07 AM
I do not see any announcements on Disney's investor or press release websites.

Wigit12
10-12-2006, 10:07 AM
I'm relieved that they are making it bigger than BCV but I still don't think I'll be able to hold back. I love this resort. I cannot wait for more info!! :cheer2:

disneygal55
10-12-2006, 10:11 AM
Has anyone called their DVC guide yet about when sales for the DVC will start? I tried but my guide was off for a few days.

CarolA
10-12-2006, 10:12 AM
We don't have a guide...yet. But my wife is going to call while the kids are napping today (around 1 PM) to see if we can get on a wait list, at least.

I'll pass along any info I get when I get it.


Thanks.
I am working at a client site and only have my cell phone and the there is only one bar showing so you get the reception picture..... :rotfl2:

However, I will be at Disney this weekend and if I don't get details I may just drop by and find my guide. (I have never actually met the man. He seems very nice on our phone calls!)

sajetto
10-12-2006, 10:19 AM
I'm really hoping that with the number of rooms we will be able to book at 7 months. There is no way my DF will go for selling some of our SSR points to buy into AKL, but I'm really excited that the rumor is really coming true. :cheer2:

bobbiwoz
10-12-2006, 10:19 AM
I hope that the 1 bedroom will definitely accomodate 5. That would be a huge plus for our family.

Bobbi :)

DVC Grammy
10-12-2006, 10:20 AM
From reading some of the non-DVC forums, it sounds as if the announcement of the new ALV will bring many, many new members who have been hesitating until now, because SSR didn't inspire them. What kind of impact do you think it'll have?
I'm not trying to :stir: ; just interested in what current DVCers think. :)

happybratpack
10-12-2006, 10:20 AM
I called a bit ago, said they had no further information on it except what was announced yesterday. :(

JimFitz
10-12-2006, 10:24 AM
From reading some of the non-DVC forums, it sounds as if the announcement of the new ALV will bring many, many new members who have been hesitating until now, because SSR didn't inspire them. What kind of impact do you think it'll have?
I'm not trying to :stir: ; just interested in what current DVCers think. :)

I don't think it really matters.

DisneyAl
10-12-2006, 10:25 AM
From The Orlando Sentinel:

Disney unveils new time shares
Sara K. Clarke
Sentinel Staff Writer

October 12, 2006

Disney time shares are coming to the Animal Kingdom, with a plan for 458 units, the company said Wednesday.

According to Disney, the time shares will be a mix of new construction and renovated accommodations in part of the Animal Kingdom Lodge. They'll feature African-inspired details and most will offer views of a savannah inhabited by a variety of animals.

Disney's Animal Kingdom Villas will be the company's eighth time-share property -- the sixth at Walt Disney World -- and was hailed Wednesday as a smart business decision.

"It's a major plus," said Michael Hewell, a former Disney employee who now escorts guests through the parks with his company, Michael's VIPs, and owns the online Web site, TourGuideMike. "Disney's going to sell every single one of them."

As for the choice of Animal Kingdom, Hewell said, "It's the true retreat," and added, "For those people who want to rest away from the theme park madness, they now have a choice."

Time shares have long been popular in Central Florida, but more so in recent years. In 2001, 10 percent of Orlando visitors stayed in time shares. Last year, that number had increased to 15 percent.

From 2001 to 2005, the number of time-share units jumped 26 percent, from 15,157 to 19,099, according to the Orlando/Orange County Convention & Visitors Bureau. Hotel-room growth, on the other hand, grew only 2 percent during the same five-year period.

Disney's entry into the time-share market was a big help to the industry, said Robert J. Webb, a veteran real estate and time-share industry attorney with the Baker Hostetler law firm in Orlando.

"Disney's entry was part of a paradigm shift" in the 1990s, Webb said, when brand names such as Marriott and Disney entered the time-share field, long dominated by small operators. "It helped bring a lot of credibility to the industry."

The expansion of the Disney time-share holdings is a reflection of the strength of the industry and Disney's commitment to its resort business, said Webb, who has represented Disney as an outside counsel in the past.

"It's an excellent example of the evolution," Webb said, of hospitality companies relying on a mix of hotels and time shares for accommodating guests.

Disney historian Michael Broggie said the new time shares are a continuing affirmation of Walt Disney's decision to build in Central Florida.

"It also is a reflection of the confidence that [Disney chief] Bob Iger has in Central Florida and investing the company's assets there," Broggie said.

Development of the Animal Kingdom Villas is scheduled in phases, with units to begin opening in fall 2007. The project is scheduled to be completed by spring 2009.

The first phase will include 134 remodeled accommodations on the fifth and sixth floors of the Animal Kingdom Lodge, and additional phases will include the building of 324 vacation properties in a new building at the resort.

Jerry W. Jackson and Tim Barker of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Sara K. Clarke can be reached at 407-420-5664 or skclarke@orlandosentinel.com.
Copyright © 2006, Orlando Sentinel | Get home delivery - up to 50% off

Tigger031266
10-12-2006, 10:25 AM
The really big question is will the second phase be Savanah or just a side building with a view of woods and a quiet pool? I am guessing Pool and woods. Which would make them more resonable point wise. It would also make Savanah views about as likely as a boardwalk view.

An e-mail with details would be so helpful.

:surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb:

3DisneyKids
10-12-2006, 10:25 AM
I hope that the 1 bedroom will definitely accomodate 5. That would be a huge plus for our family.

Bobbi :)


Ditto! And since they are clearly allowing 5 in a 1-BR, maybe this will make the shift more "legal." ? Just thinking out loud...

In any case, it is all very exciting!

DVC Grammy
10-12-2006, 10:28 AM
I was looking forward to next Tuesday anyway, but now I'm even more excited. We chose to split-stay; a few days at SSR (tryinng the DDP) and then the remainder at BWV. :thumbsup2
I now have a MISSION..............snoop, investigate, detect........any and all clues I can find about AKV, especially at SSR, where the models are said to be!! :scratchin If I find out anything, I'll report.................

SSR-10/17-10/20 (heh-heh :rolleyes1 )
BWV- 10/20-10/27

diznyfanatic
10-12-2006, 10:29 AM
JAMBO!! WOOHOO!!!! :cheer2:

3DisneyKids
10-12-2006, 10:30 AM
It's also on Allearsnet.com, and that seals it for me. There are usually pretty conservative about what they post.


Ditto. Deb is really good about rumors vs. fact. It is a go, for sure!

pilferk
10-12-2006, 10:31 AM
I hope that the 1 bedroom will definitely accomodate 5. That would be a huge plus for our family.

Bobbi :)

It would be a god send for us....the difference between points on a 1BR and 2BR is pretty big. I'd want to see the layout, though, before committing. For our family, it's 3 girls (my wife and 2 daughters) and 2 boys (me and my son). It'd be nice if we could bed the two girls together on a queen sleeper and have a convertible day bed for my son..while my wife and I get our own room...but that's pie in the sky. Also...I'm not sure the bathroom situation would be ideal. :)

CarolA
10-12-2006, 10:34 AM
I think I am buying at AKL just to get that 11 month window.....

(What to sell... I don't NEED anymore points. I have actually downsized about 100 points over the past year....)

ralphd
10-12-2006, 10:35 AM
There is a thread on another forum that said Jim Lewis announced 'there is a proposed DVC at AKL, but plans were subject to change' ????

sheryl0521
10-12-2006, 10:40 AM
Orlando Sentinel link (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-disneyhotel1206oct12,0,6599738.story?coll=orl-business-headlines)

I really thought the Contemporary was going to be the next location. Guess I was wrong!

Tabetha
10-12-2006, 10:41 AM
Hooboy. Gonna have to save some pennies for this one!

ralphd
10-12-2006, 10:43 AM
Link to Orlando Sentinel article.

' http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-disneyhotel1206oct12,0,6599738.story?track=mostema iledlink '

Note there is no info directly from Disney.

calypso*a*go-go
10-12-2006, 10:45 AM
This is going to create some wonderful opportunities for people that want to buy into other DVC resorts as I have a feeling a lot of current members will be selling previous contracts to buy into AKV instead.

3DisneyKids
10-12-2006, 10:47 AM
I just got off the phone with MS this minute. I was calling about my upcoming ressie, not making a call specifically to ask about the AKV annoucnement. However, while I had them on the phone... :rolleyes:

Anyway, he avoided and evaded the question in so many ways...we were both actually laughing at the umm...."creativity" of his answers. They have clearly been coached on what NOT to say. I assume that this is because they will be making their own annoucement shortly.

KristiKelly
10-12-2006, 10:48 AM
II now have a MISSION..............snoop, investigate, detect........any and all clues I can find about AKV, especially at SSR, where the models are said to be!! :scratchin If I find out anything, I'll report.................

SSR-10/17-10/20 (heh-heh :rolleyes1 )
BWV- 10/20-10/27

Just don't forget your camera :) .

sheryl0521
10-12-2006, 10:49 AM
That may explain why I can't find anything about it on the official DVC web site!

3DisneyKids
10-12-2006, 10:50 AM
Here is the information posted on Deb's site...

Thanks, Deb and Allearsnet.com!

Disney Vacation Club to expand to Animal Kingdom Lodge

The Disney Vacation Club announced on October 11, 2006 that the Animal Kingdom Lodge would be the home of the next DVC resort at Walt Disney World. Rumors have been circulating for some time that the Contemporary was next on the list, but in recent weeks the focus had shifted to Animal Kingdom Lodge.

The first phase will be the opening of 134 remodeled existing rooms at the resort in late 2007. The next phase will be the opening of a new building containing 324 villas.

calypso*a*go-go
10-12-2006, 10:51 AM
I just posted on another thread that I think there will be tons of older contracts on the resale market due to current members trying to trade their points for AKV. As for potential new members, it will be interesting to see how many contracts are snapped up by existing members first (doesn't DVC usually offer any new properties to current members first?). When I first saw the announcement, I thought a lot of brand new SSR-owners might be upset that they didn't wait. However, they may have the last laugh as the new price-per-point might increase dramatically, plus I doubt any incentives will need to be offered to get people to buy AKL. It could be that anyone purchasing right now will have to lowest initial buy-in for quite some time.

sheryl0521
10-12-2006, 10:52 AM
We will stay at AKLV, but don't plan to buy. It is the usual draw - to buy where you will want to be the most, and we are an Epcot family. So BCV & BWV work for us.

bobbiwoz
10-12-2006, 10:52 AM
I never knew about codes to get discounted rooms at WDW. Yet, a few years ago, before we joined DVC, we got a discounted room at AKL ( It was just on Disney's site, I was trying to book on line) and we stayed there and had a nice time. I wondered then if the "out of the wayness" was the reason we got the discount. I think a DVC there would attract people. On last year's members cruise, I didn't even think twice about the special discounts given to members on SSR, but if it had been of this new DVC, well, yes, we would have bought some. We really do have "enough" points, but we could be presuaded with a preconstruction promotion to buy some points. What would really do it, would be if the 1 bedrooms were really meant to accomodate 5, since the 2 bedrooms accomodate 9.

I am glad to see the size of the resort is something larger than VWL and BCV. I'm also hoping for a wonderful pool, the AKL pool is sort of blah IMO.

As far as non DVC people, yes, I think a DVC at the AK will sell fast.

Bobbi :)

sheryl0521
10-12-2006, 10:53 AM
Is this also why we (current members) just got offered $15 off per point at SSR for 115 point add ons???

spiceycat
10-12-2006, 10:53 AM
hey I think it was the poll we did here....

AKL and Cont were neck and neck - I can't say for sure - but I think it proved to DVC that AKL was very, very popular with DVC members.

besides I still think someone on the board of Disney doesn't want the Cont in DVC - it was the first WDW resort and to some people it should always just remain a WDW resort.

remember that once AKLV opens (looks like something next year) no more AKL on the WDW resorts list for points.

so no complaints. just remember that once this opens you can't get AKL with DVC points again.

3DisneyKids
10-12-2006, 10:55 AM
lol...someone should to a study on productivity in the workplace and official Disney announcements.... :rotfl2:

I know that I *should* be sending out some e-mails, etc. right now...but, nope...gotta DIS! :cool1:

sheryl0521
10-12-2006, 10:57 AM
It would be a god send for us....the difference between points on a 1BR and 2BR is pretty big. I'd want to see the layout, though, before committing. For our family, it's 3 girls (my wife and 2 daughters) and 2 boys (me and my son). It'd be nice if we could bed the two girls together on a queen sleeper and have a convertible day bed for my son..while my wife and I get our own room...but that's pie in the sky. Also...I'm not sure the bathroom situation would be ideal. :)
I am thinking the layouts of the rooms will be just like all the other recent DVC resorts. I don't think they are going to change the room configuration for one resort.

CapeCodFam
10-12-2006, 10:58 AM
We are most definately interested in adding on. I believe the initial price will likely be the lowest offered and will escalate to what the market will bear. So, as soon as the prices are anounced, we will likely jump on it.

I also think you're right on about potential DVCers that will now dive in. That is, of course, if any points are left to be had for non-members. :crazy:

sheryl0521
10-12-2006, 11:00 AM
I'm wondering how they will fit 9 into the 2 bedroom as well... will that mean that a 1 bedroom will sleep five? So many questions, so little information :confused3
Where did you read that 9 will fit into the 2-bedroom?

3DisneyKids
10-12-2006, 11:01 AM
Yes, I am willing to bet that this is the reason behind the $15 off promo. They need to sell out SSR. And I also agree that those who recently (or are now just) bought SSR may well get the best deals going for a while. Current members may, indeed, get a pre-construction price....but due to the popularity of this resort...hard to say. Then again, due to the size it might take a while to sell out...lol...I am contradicting myself before I even finish typing the thought!

It will be very interesting to watch the resale boards to see if people dump one resort in order to buy AKV. Those who want to buy into DVC but don't necessarily want AKV for their home resort may be able to get some great deals....

chris1gill
10-12-2006, 11:02 AM
Where did you read that 9 will fit into the 2-bedroom?

In the original thread...

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1248734

calypso*a*go-go
10-12-2006, 11:03 AM
I am thinking the layouts of the rooms will be just like all the other recent DVC resorts. I don't think they are going to change the room configuration for one resort.

They may not change the room configuration, but the new AS Family Suites have chairs that convert to twin beds. It could be they will place those in the units. An earlier post said some of the villas would accomodate 9 or 15 people...that's the only way I can see nine people fitting in a 2bdrm...not sure about 15 in a GV unless maybe they put the chair/twin bed in each bedroom. It will certainly be nice for large families that have older kids that really can't share a bed anymore.

DVC Grammy
10-12-2006, 11:06 AM
We, too, will be at SSR next week :banana: . Why do I get this vision of groups of people lurking around the resort wearing deerslayer caps and trench coats, with magnifying glasses to examine all clues??? :rotfl:

calypso*a*go-go
10-12-2006, 11:07 AM
In this picture from the family suites, the chair and ottoman both make into single beds...I have a feeling something similar to this is what they will be using if indeed the occupancy limits change.
http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/resorts/photos/Jazz-Inn_couches.jpg

ADP
10-12-2006, 11:08 AM
On Oct. 18th there is a Disney press event scheduled in New York City. I'm sure it will be announced and discussed; maybe even some concept art will be displayed.

MermaidJan
10-12-2006, 11:10 AM
I like AKL but don't think I will buy into AKV. But I will definitely try a stay when it is complete. :thumbsup2

I am wondering if the AKV will have their own pool. The pool at the lodge is not very big and the theming is poor. I hope if they do another pool that it have a jungle/animal theme.

I love the pool at BWV. The whole circus/ dumbo theme is great. :cool1:

diznyfanatic
10-12-2006, 11:10 AM
We leave in 9 days for OKW but had planned on stopping to see our Guide anyway and this will now be the top question on the list.

Hopefully we can report back with some information also. :yay:

pilferk
10-12-2006, 11:16 AM
I am thinking the layouts of the rooms will be just like all the other recent DVC resorts. I don't think they are going to change the room configuration for one resort.

I guess what I mean when I say layout (much like calypso alluded to) is more what furniture is in the room(s) that might allow one more person to stay there...and where is it located.

If it's one of those chairs, no matter where it is, we can set him up in the LR with his sisters...just in his own bed.

And then we're only left with the bathroom issue to decide on.

ADP
10-12-2006, 11:18 AM
Link to Orlando Sentinel article.

' http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-disneyhotel1206oct12,0,6599738.story?track=mostema iledlink '

Note there is no info directly from Disney.

According to Disney, the time shares will be a mix of new construction and renovated accommodations in part of the Animal Kingdom Lodge. They'll feature African-inspired details and most will offer views of a savannah inhabited by a variety of animals.

That is direct enough for me. If Disney is talking to major media outlets about it then I would consider it credible.

Chuck S
10-12-2006, 11:18 AM
I think it will stir interest for people who prefer the smaller DVCs attached to resorts rather than the freestanding condo style. Personally, I prefer the condo style units.

mikesmom
10-12-2006, 11:19 AM
I agree with the OP. I expected that there would be a lot of excitement on the DVC Boards, but the amount of excitement on the Resort and other Boards was a surprise. Seems like a lot of people are now VERY interested in joining. Should be interesting.

pilferk
10-12-2006, 11:19 AM
I like AKL but don't think I will buy into AKV. But I will definitely try a stay when it is complete. :thumbsup2

I am wondering if the AKV will have their own pool. The pool at the lodge is not very big and the theming is poor. I hope if they do another pool that it have a jungle/animal theme.

I love the pool at BWV. The whole circus/ dumbo theme is great. :cool1:

From the info I've seen, it sounds like VAKL will have it's own feature pool and some sort of "water play island"...whatever that means...as well as at least one new resturaunt.

alexandone
10-12-2006, 11:22 AM
The only thing MS is confirming is that the new DVC will be in Florida...no further comments.

StormTigger
10-12-2006, 11:23 AM
:cheer2: :Pinkbounc :rotfl: :bounce: :joker: :dance3: :crazy:

OMG! OMG! OMG!!

My only question is.. how soon can I sell my BCV and buy into AKV?!! :teeth: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

*breath*.. *calm* :Pinkbounc :bounce: :cheer2:

spiceycat
10-12-2006, 11:30 AM
only question is.. how soon can I sell my BCV and buy into AKV?!! :teeth: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

*breath*.. *calm* :Pinkbounc :bounce: :cheer2:

My guess - soon.

the work that Florida requires to be done - since this is a hotel and not a new building - will be done!!!

so they can start selling tomorrow (or when Fl approves it) if DVC wants to.

best guess though is early next year.

Skip Wiley
10-12-2006, 11:33 AM
Just talked to my guide, said they were told at a meeting last night, didn't have any more information but speculated that sales would start sometime in the Spring of 2007. Did mention they saw some drawings, said lobby area is all glass that looks over the savanna and that it's really, really nice.

Pluto,
10-12-2006, 11:35 AM
this is excellent news. i figured it would be a small dvc resort but with 458 rooms it will be pretty nice will try to get in on the 7 month window. if i cant once i get my dvc loan paid off i will have to buy some more.
if i have to guess when they will start selling it will be next fiscal year.

akghutton
10-12-2006, 11:35 AM
Yippee!! I can't wait to add on!! :teeth: AKL is our second favorite resort, right behind BWV, our home away from home. My 6-year-old DS will be thrilled. I am so excited!! :goodvibes

BCV23
10-12-2006, 11:37 AM
On the resort board, Tikiman posted an announcement with a picture I've not see before....is it the new AKV?

Here's the link:http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=14976014&postcount=17

Thanks, Granny! ;)

Lexxiefern
10-12-2006, 11:41 AM
Yay! I am so glad we finally know! And I am happy it will be a bigger resort. I don't plan on buying points there, but I do want to try it out. So it will be easier to get into if it is a good size.

Pluto,
10-12-2006, 11:43 AM
excellent news i was wanting akl to be next i could care less about contemp.

chris1gill
10-12-2006, 11:46 AM
I'm so happy to see it will have it's own themed pool with some sort of play island, sounds fun for kids! Course the animal's are wonderful! My kids will be very excited over this....

Skip Wiley
10-12-2006, 11:59 AM
The picture pretty much matches up to what my guide described to me this morning, said they saw an artist drawing last night and mentioned about the lobby being all glass and overlooking the savanna.

chorlick
10-12-2006, 12:06 PM
Hopefully, it will ease some of the congestion of the other DVC's. Of course, it will make the parks busier. They are going to have to do something about that in the future. I don't see how they can continue to build hotels and resorts without expanding the parks. Two years ago at Thanksgiving, we had to wait in line to get into the gift shops. That was terrible!

BCV23
10-12-2006, 12:08 PM
Cool, I hope all of you have good luck with your investigations and remember....we want pictures. ;)

Most of all, have great vacations.

You know, I don't remember any windows in that theatre!

floridafam
10-12-2006, 12:18 PM
I have been unable to book a 1 br suite at AKL for our stay in December or for the dates I typed in for March and April.

Maybe they are out of the system. Does anyone know how many 1 br suites are at AKL? It just seems strange that they would be unavailable for the 4 different sets of dates I typed in.

I really hope that they don't do away with AKL CL.

DVC Grandpa
10-12-2006, 12:19 PM
Orlando Business Journal - Walt Disney World plans to add 456 new Disney Vacation Club units at Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge, to be built in phases through the spring of 2009.

Steve's Girl
10-12-2006, 12:22 PM
but that's not on the monorail?!?!

Stitch 03
10-12-2006, 12:26 PM
What can I say:


:banana: :cool1: :woohoo: :bounce: :teeth:

I thought CRV would be next, but am glad to be wrong.

Heading to OKW next week so will try to find out more. I guess I'll be buying AKV points and selling some (but not all) of my OKW.

:cool1:

sweet48
10-12-2006, 12:26 PM
If they want to relieve congestion they need to build at least 1 more major ride at Animal Kingdom to attract more people there

Just my opinion

John

gcbsdad
10-12-2006, 12:28 PM
I'm sure that eventually we will stay at VAKL but initially I like the fact that it will make the availability better at the other DVC resorts. We have not stayed but we visited AKL and it just seems so far away from everything.

I imagine the fact that AK is our 4th favorite park at WDW, might have something to do with it.

Oh and I did get the email from our guide about the $15.00 off per point if you aded on 115 points or more.

DonnaL
10-12-2006, 12:29 PM
DVCGrammy,

According to the weather report it's going to be too hot for caps and trench coats.......I think I'll just wear a big pair of sunglasses instead!!

nevertez
10-12-2006, 12:31 PM
EE is more than enough to attract me to AK. :chewy:

But a Monorail to TTC I would love.

jmatias
10-12-2006, 12:32 PM
Thanks for the link!

Showed it to my DH this morning and he said "How do we get on the list"

This was me..... :teeth: :dance3: :dance3: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Jen

Twingle
10-12-2006, 12:32 PM
Thank you so much for all the replies! Would you mind posting what you see? I would really appreciate it!

Thanks again!

PrincessJasmine08
10-12-2006, 12:41 PM
I'm in Disney right now, we're going to check it out.

ADP
10-12-2006, 12:45 PM
The really big question is will the second phase be Savanah or just a side building with a view of woods and a quiet pool? I am guessing Pool and woods. Which would make them more resonable point wise. It would also make Savanah views about as likely as a boardwalk view.

An e-mail with details would be so helpful.

:surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb: :surfweb:

I read in one of the articles that the savannah would be expanded which leads me to believe that the villas will have savannah view rooms.

msdis
10-12-2006, 12:49 PM
No time to look and see if this is out yet (on lunch) but just in case



Disney time shares are coming to the Animal Kingdom, with a plan for 458
units, the company said Wednesday.

According to Disney, the time shares will be a mix of new construction and
renovated accommodations in part of the Animal Kingdom Lodge. They'll
feature African-inspired details and most will offer views of a savannah
inhabited by a variety of animals.

Disney's Animal Kingdom Villas will be the company's eighth time-share
property -- the sixth at Walt Disney World -- and was hailed Wednesday as a
smart business decision.

"It's a major plus," said Michael Hewell, a former Disney employee who now
escorts guests through the parks with his company, Michael's VIPs, and owns
the online Web site, TourGuideMike. "Disney's going to sell every single one
of them."

As for the choice of Animal Kingdom, Hewell said, "It's the true retreat,"
and added, "For those people who want to rest away from the theme park
madness, they now have a choice."

Time shares have long been popular in Central Florida, but more so in recent
years. In 2001, 10 percent of Orlando visitors stayed in time shares. Last
year, that number had increased to 15 percent.

From 2001 to 2005, the number of time-share units jumped 26 percent, from
15,157 to 19,099, according to the Orlando/Orange County Convention &
Visitors Bureau. Hotel-room growth, on the other hand, grew only 2 percent
during the same five-year period.

Disney's entry into the time-share market was a big help to the industry,
said Robert J. Webb, a veteran real estate and time-share industry attorney
with the Baker Hostetler law firm in Orlando.

"Disney's entry was part of a paradigm shift" in the 1990s, Webb said, when
brand names such as Marriott and Disney entered the time-share field, long
dominated by small operators. "It helped bring a lot of credibility to the
industry."

The expansion of the Disney time-share holdings is a reflection of the
strength of the industry and Disney's commitment to its resort business,
said Webb, who has represented Disney as an outside counsel in the past.

"It's an excellent example of the evolution," Webb said, of hospitality
companies relying on a mix of hotels and time shares for accommodating guests.

Disney historian Michael Broggie said the new time shares are a continuing
affirmation of Walt Disney's decision to build in Central Florida.

"It also is a reflection of the confidence that [Disney chief] Bob Iger has
in Central Florida and investing the company's assets there," Broggie said.

Development of the Animal Kingdom Villas is scheduled in phases, with units
to begin opening in fall 2007. The project is scheduled to be completed by
spring 2009.

The first phase will include 134 remodeled accommodations on the fifth and
sixth floors of the Animal Kingdom Lodge, and additional phases will include
the building of 324 vacation properties in a new building at the resort.

Sammie
10-12-2006, 12:52 PM
I think the Contemporary project was delayed due to cost. I don't think it is out of the possiblity yet. I was told when AKL was built that infrastructure for DVC was laid. I would guess that would be mean the area for the new lodge.

I was told this summer it will lie to the left of the Lodge where that dead end cove is in the drive up to the Lodge.

I was also told that SSR is selling very quickly and something quick was needed to keep the momentum going. Contemporary would be a slow going project to build.

NewBaloo
10-12-2006, 12:55 PM
Sounds great! :cool1: Any word on when sales will start?

liznboys
10-12-2006, 12:56 PM
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1248774&page=2&pp=15

Tikiman posted a rendering of AKV on that thread.

calypso*a*go-go
10-12-2006, 12:56 PM
I'll save people the trouble of going thru the link:
http://www.tikiman2001.net/dvc_dak_432.jpg

chris1gill
10-12-2006, 12:58 PM
I'm in Disney right now, we're going to check it out.

Oh GOOD! We've got a DVC'er on site!!! Report back what you find okay??? :Pinkbounc

lenshanem
10-12-2006, 12:59 PM
I called my guide cause we leave Sunday and asked if there was any model room we could see and he told me as of right now not yet.

jmatias
10-12-2006, 01:03 PM
I'm really excited about VAKL but thought it strange how the "news" got out.

I was expecting some big press release with fan fare type thing. :confused3

Sammie
10-12-2006, 01:05 PM
I totally agree, I think it was pretty shotty. I think members should have gotten an email or update to the site or something.

jdg345
10-12-2006, 01:06 PM
I think the Contemporary project was delayed due to cost. I don't think it is out of the possiblity yet. I was told when AKL was built that infrastructure for DVC was laid. I would guess that would be mean the area for the new lodge.

I was told this summer it will lie to the left of the Lodge where that dead end cove is in the drive up to the Lodge.

I was also told that SSR is selling very quickly and something quick was needed to keep the momentum going. Contemporary would be a slow going project to build.

I think it might also have something to do with Florida Law and how they are allowed to sell things like this. Since AKL is existing and they are going to remodel some rooms, it might be easier to get this rolling than CRV (which would require lots of demo, etc).

Just a hunch, but my bet was always VAKL first, then CRV. There was a rumor awhile back that CRV had been green-lighted, but would not be the next DVC annouced. Woohoo!

jdg345
10-12-2006, 01:08 PM
Anyone talk to their guides yet? Any details?

lenshanem
10-12-2006, 01:11 PM
Talked to my guide, but not given much info. Was told he saw drawings last night and it is beautiful. :thumbsup2

PrincessJasmine08
10-12-2006, 01:16 PM
Oh GOOD! We've got a DVC'er on site!!! Report back what you find okay??? :Pinkbounc

Will do! Not sure what I will find, but I'll definitely head over to Saratoga Springs and give it a shot.

julia & nicks mom
10-12-2006, 01:23 PM
I was thinking last night that we should have gotten first notice about it - I wonder if it was not supposed to come out this way!

PrincessJasmine08
10-12-2006, 01:27 PM
I was thinking last night that we should have gotten first notice about it - I wonder if it was not supposed to come out this way!

I am definitely wondering if this somehow slipped out and there was going to be a big announcement. It just seems so strange that a bigger deal wasn't made of this.

chris1gill
10-12-2006, 01:28 PM
I'd head over to the concierge level of AKL as well, I bet they know what's happening to their little part of the world right about now!

nevertez
10-12-2006, 01:31 PM
Not a member yet... but talk to the DVC guide. He stated that it took 6 months from SSR being announced to pre-sales were allowed. He expects the same.

Too slow for me but I know what my income tax check is going to. :confused3

CoolDisneyCat
10-12-2006, 01:33 PM
In this picture from the family suites, the chair and ottoman both make into single beds...I have a feeling something similar to this is what they will be using if indeed the occupancy limits change.
http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/resorts/photos/Jazz-Inn_couches.jpg

Let's hope they look better than those .. :lmao:

I'm really glad they are doing grand villas. I wish they had at BCV.

This is the best news I've heard in ages!! :simba:

allflgirl
10-12-2006, 01:35 PM
Boy, not reading these boards everyday, you miss it all! Vacation Club at Animal Kingdom, I've been waiting for the announcement for weeks and was too busy yesterday to stop and read about this.

Sign me up, baby.

Thanks for sharing the information.

Julia

jdg345
10-12-2006, 01:46 PM
Sounds like it was leaked by the media early :(

erikthewise
10-12-2006, 01:49 PM
(1) The Contemporary is still in play as long as they don't renovate the North Wing.
(2) I doubt that they will convert the entire fifth floor of AKL to DVC. It seems more sensible that they would convert the rooms on the left side (next to the new construction), perhaps on two floors. If I am right then it is almost certain there will still be concierge at AKL -- I think that will be true in any case.
(3) I don't think they could get away with any dramatic changes in price per point or in point charts. Two reasons. this will be a fairly large DVC resort and they will have trouble with sales if they scare away too many potential buyers. Also AKL has had trouble filling its rooms, so no matter how desirable it may be to some of us, it can't be considered a prime location like BWV, BCV, or a potential CRV.

disney junky
10-12-2006, 01:50 PM
Wow! I blinked, and lo and behold, the Villas at AK. :thumbsup2

midnightaction
10-12-2006, 01:51 PM
Oh my golly gosh...........this news is soooo exciting !!! :cheer2:

I was convinced it was gonna be CRV with the talk that was going on, on this board..........I am sooo shocked and sooo happy that there is gonna be a DVC at AKL. :woohoo:

Now a little naughty I know but I have yet to sign and return the closing contracts for our BWV contracts that we bought 2 weeks ago, and I was wondering if it's too late to change our mind. We really love the Boardwalk area but now that I know about this, I am really torn as to whether to wait a few more months and go for that instead :confused3

Is it too late to change my mind if I haven't yet signed on the dotted line even though I paid the full balance 2 weeks ago??

Hey either way I am happy, but I just like to know what my choices are !!! :p

*Sits patiently in the corner waiting for more news about this*

Sarah xx

BCV23
10-12-2006, 01:54 PM
Let's hope they look better than those .. :lmao:

I agree. Those beds look more cot size don't they? But on reflection, I imagine Chris' guess is right. A chair that folds out in the LR or 2 BR could take the same floor room as an aerobed that so many talk about using for their children.

chris1gill
10-12-2006, 02:00 PM
I agree. Those beds look more cot size don't they? But on reflection, I imagine Chris' guess is right. A chair that folds out in the LR or 2 BR could take the same floor room as an aerobed that so many talk about using for their children.

Well, I've thought about it some more. We recently purchased a King size sleeper sofa from American Leather.... that's the same couch used at SSR, but in a queen size at SSR... Anyhow, the same company has a chair that pulls out much like the picture from All Star, except it is a full size extra long twin... not a cot size... I know this because I'd thought about buying one to match the couch to expand on our occupancy (since it's a rental).... What we did do instead, was to buy a single size trundle bed.... Hey, maybe Disney is thinking to put trundles in the second bedroom???

RumpleMom
10-12-2006, 02:03 PM
I am so happy about this news. We love the AKL resort and pool, so much me paid 33 points per night to stay there. Yikes!!!


I would much rather have it a DVC resort with more reasonable point amounts, she typed hopefully.

dianeschlicht
10-12-2006, 02:10 PM
The trundle is a great idea, but I suspect the hide-a-bed chair is more likely. That might be why the units will be more spacious. Maybe living room/kitchen combos more like OKW. Now THAT would be the best of two worlds! OKW size AND a savanna view! :thumbsup2

dianeschlicht
10-12-2006, 02:12 PM
I have danced on everyone of these threads announcing the new VAKL, so might as well include this one!
:cool1: :banana: :cheer2: :woohoo: :yay: :dance3: :bounce:

CarolAnnC
10-12-2006, 02:13 PM
Crissup and I are booked at AKL for several days in December and we are so looking forward to our first stay there.

Just yesterday morning we were speaking to our Guide and I mentioned that I would be interested in purchasing at AKL villas if we enjoy our stay there, LOL! Guess my ESP has been busy at work again!!! :cheer2:

dianeschlicht
10-12-2006, 02:14 PM
LOL, this is like the 7th or 8th thread now, but I'll dance again!
:cool1: :banana: :cheer2: :Pinkbounc :woohoo: :yay: :dance3: :bounce:

Buzz's Buddy
10-12-2006, 02:20 PM
Has anyone else seen this news yet? Found this on allears.net.

Disney Vacation Club to expand to Animal Kingdom Lodge

The Disney Vacation Club announced on October 11, 2006 that the Animal Kingdom Lodge would be the home of the next DVC resort at Walt Disney World. Rumors have been circulating for some time that the Contemporary was next on the list, but in recent weeks the focus had shifted to Animal Kingdom Lodge.

The first phase will be the opening of 134 remodeled existing rooms at the resort in late 2007. The next phase will be the opening of a new building containing 324 villas.

harra
10-12-2006, 02:20 PM
(2) I doubt that they will convert the entire fifth floor of AKL to DVC. It seems more sensible that they would convert the rooms on the left side (next to the new construction), perhaps on two floors. If I am right then it is almost certain there will still be concierge at AKL -- I think that will be true in any case.


I agree with Erik. I pulled out my map of the AKL from when we stayed in September and started counting rooms. I wasn't even halfway through the rooms on the 5th floor before I counted more than the 134 rooms that was in the press release that were going to be converted.

dianeschlicht
10-12-2006, 02:26 PM
Another one of these threads to dance on!
:cool1: :banana: :cheer2: :Pinkbounc :woohoo: :yay: :dance3: :bounce:

pilferk
10-12-2006, 02:28 PM
I agree with Erik. I pulled out my map of the AKL from when we stayed in September and started counting rooms. I wasn't even halfway through the rooms on the 5th floor before I counted more than the 134 rooms that was in the press release that were going to be converted.

It does sorta depend on what those 134 rooms are. I'm going to assume (for no other reason that it makes the math relatively convenient) 40% 1BR and 60% Studio (with the option to have a 1BR + Studio as a 2 BR, maybe). The 1 BR would take 2 room "bays". I'm thinking (and this is just a wild guesstimate) that it'll be something like 188 total rooms they'll be taking over (80 as studios, 108 for 1 BR's...since you need 2 rooms to get one). Still not too bad, probably.

Stitch 03
10-12-2006, 02:30 PM
I expect (hope) that sales will have to start pretty quickly. If the first phase is slated to open in late 2007, lets say November, then the eleven month booking window will be this December.

It will be kind of hard to book a room if you cannot buy points.

dsneygirl
10-12-2006, 02:30 PM
DH and I know we will need to add on at some point (to stay in 1 bedrooms) and I was speculating if a lot of resales would come on the market as people buy at VAKL.

Disney still has ROFR but at least there may be more choice...Thoughts?

dairyou
10-12-2006, 02:34 PM
Just read it on the community board. They found out through the Orlando Sentinel. Bummer we just added on 100 points 3 months ago. Oh well :)

Deb

Sammie
10-12-2006, 02:34 PM
Absolutely not, I am glad other are excited but I will not be adding on and probably will not stay there to try it out. The AKL just offers no appeal to my family.

I will be interested in the discussions on the size of this resort. Since SSR has taken a severe beating from many for being too large, it will be interesting to see what affect the size of this resort has on bookings.

dianeschlicht
10-12-2006, 02:36 PM
I have been busy today dancing on all these VAKL threads so....
:cool1: :banana: :cheer2: :Pinkbounc :woohoo: :dance3: :bounce:

MAGICinMYHEART
10-12-2006, 02:42 PM
I was just reading all the reports about the new DVC AKL and thought New Restaurant that would be nice. But it would be great to have a new Dinner Show with an African Theme, I know it would be wonderful.

Boston5602
10-12-2006, 02:55 PM
LOL, this is like the 7th or 8th thread now, but I'll dance again!
:cool1: :banana: :cheer2: :Pinkbounc :woohoo: :yay: :dance3: :bounce:


I love watching Diane doing all her dances :banana: :Pinkbounc :banana: :Pinkbounc

:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

3DisneyKids
10-12-2006, 02:57 PM
Thanks, our awesome Mods, for streamlining this discussion for us!

I agree that (1) the point values will not be out of line when compared to BCV, BWV-PV, VWL. Yes, AKV will have those wonderful Savannah views...but the BW views and fireworks views, etc. are alos stunning and in demand. I don't think they can say that one is "better" than the other by too much of a degree; (2) AKL seems to always have promos to attract guests...more than other deluxes, it seems. Many people book standard view at AKL knowing that they will get automatically upgraded to Savannah view because the resort will not be full.

Of course, time will tell..

As for sales dates...one of the articles I read here on the DIS said sales will begin in Spring, 2007.

Again with my mantra...time will tell... :cool1:

Mickeydad
10-12-2006, 03:00 PM
This news is just incredible! :cool1:

So many people have questioned why we purchased DVC :confused3 , saying won't it get boring going to the same place every year?!?!?!

Well, Disney continues to make my investment decision grow in value, and makes answering all the "neighsayers" so much easier :Pinkbounc .

I don't know about all of you, but we really didn't buy into DVC only because of the parks. Don't get me wrong, we do LOVE the parks, but I want a vacation that is fun for my family, relaxing, with great accomodations, good food, and HOT weather. DVC give us all of this AND MORE :banana: !

This is great news for all of us DVCers!

Mickeydad :wave2:

LisaS
10-12-2006, 03:01 PM
...(3) I don't think they could get away with any dramatic changes in price per point or in point charts. Two reasons. this will be a fairly large DVC resort and they will have trouble with sales if they scare away too many potential buyers. Also AKL has had trouble filling its rooms, so no matter how desirable it may be to some of us, it can't be considered a prime location like BWV, BCV, or a potential CRV.I agree. The hotel rates for AKL are less than the other deluxes because of AKL's location and the slightly smaller rooms. And from a DVC perspective, the DVC resorts furthest from the parks require the fewest points per night (except for BWV standard view). So I think they have to be careful about the price/point for AKV and the points/night as well.

I definitely want to add on there but if the price/pt is too high I just won't be able to justify doing so. And if the point charts are out of line with the other DVC resorts, I won't be staying there as often as I would like.

KyleRayner
10-12-2006, 03:01 PM
This is so exciting!!

I agree with a previous poster that I would definitey want to stay at AKV, but only once in a while to change things up a bit.

But its definitely too far away from my favorite parks for it be my home resort.

spiceycat
10-12-2006, 03:27 PM
I will be interested in the discussions on the size of this resort. Since SSR has taken a severe beating from many for being too large, it will be interesting to see what affect the size of this resort has on bookings.

SSR was the new kid on the block - so expect the same people to take shots at AKLV. they always pick on the new thing.

SSR is a wonderful resort. I prefer OKW - but hey everybody has different taste.

zulaya
10-12-2006, 03:33 PM
I am echoing diane's dance...

:cool1: :Pinkbounc :cheer2: :dance3: :yay: :bounce: :woohoo: :cheer2: :cool1:

I am very excited about this announcement. But I also would love details like...
Price per point?
what else is being added?
Are there really going to be GVs there?

I'm down this year in December...I hope that model room is up and running at SSR. That might be my first stop after check-in.

Simba's Mom
10-12-2006, 03:34 PM
We will stay at AKLV, but don't plan to buy. It is the usual draw - to buy where you will want to be the most, and we are an Epcot family. So BCV & BWV work for us.
People who are fans of VWL, BCV, & BWV should be rejoicing this too. With all the enthusiasm here, it makes sense that more people will be trying to get the new VAKL, freeing up the Epcot resorts more at the 7 month window for people who don't own there or who make late plans.

Tinkaroo
10-12-2006, 03:37 PM
Oh, decisions, decisions...

As much as we love AKL, we had agreed that we would add-on at CRV if it became available. Of course, now we're going "but we love AKL!"

I'm very interested to see all the info. on this. I do like that it will be a nice-sized resort, so if we decide not to add-on, we can still have the hope of staying there from time to time.

This is so exciting!!! :Pinkbounc :Pinkbounc :Pinkbounc

CarolA
10-12-2006, 03:45 PM
SSR was the new kid on the block - so expect the same people to take shots at AKLV. they always pick on the new thing.

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AMEN!

I can GUARANTEE this will occur. (Remeber when BCV was the most INFERIOR resort ever built... until SSR which will be surpassed by VAKL which will be surpassed by XYZ)

ADP
10-12-2006, 03:46 PM
More info from another source on AKLV with Concept art!!

http://www.tikiman2001.net/dvc_dak_432.jpg

October 11, 2006, Lake Buena Vista, Fla. – Disney Vacation Club announced today that it is building a new timeshare resort on Walt Disney World® property to meet ongoing strong demand for its unique vacation-ownership program.


Disney's Animal Kingdom® Villas will be part of Disney's Animal Kingdom® Lodge, which readers of Travel & Leisure Family magazine recently honored with the No. 4 spot on their list of the 50 greatest family resorts in the United States and Canada. The Disney Vacation Club® accommodations will feature intricate African-inspired details and home-like amenities, and most will offer sweeping views of an expanded savannah inhabited by a variety of African animals. These new accommodations are scheduled for development in phases with an anticipated opening beginning Fall 2007 and a completion date planned for Spring 2009. The project's first phase will include 134 remodeled accommodations on the fifth and sixth floors of the existing Disney's Animal Kingdom® Lodge building, and subsequent phases will include the construction of 324 vacation homes in a new building on the resort property, for a total of 458 Disney Vacation Club homes.


The project also calls for construction of a new table-service restaurant, themed pool and water-play island, fitness center, merchandise shop, sports and recreation facilities and more.


"We continue to see strong demand from families who want to build a lifetime of unforgettable memories by vacationing in ways they never dreamed possible," said Jim Lewis, President of Disney Vacation Club. "I am delighted to announce that our members will have yet another place to call home with Disney's Animal Kingdom® Villas. This begins another exciting new era for Disney Vacation Club as we continue to explore future destination possibilities both domestically and internationally."


Disney Vacation Club, now celebrating its milestone 15th anniversary, is an innovative timeshare program that lets families enjoy flexibility and savings on future vacations at Disney destinations and more than 500 other popular vacation sites around the world. Since 2000, Disney Vacation Club membership has doubled to include more than 300,000 individuals from over 100 countries and every U.S. state.


Disney's Animal Kingdom® Villas will be the eighth Disney Vacation Club Resort, joining five others at the Walt Disney World® Resort, one in Vero Beach, Fla., and one in Hilton Head Island, S.C. Disney Vacation Club has sold out of memberships at its first six resorts, and sales remain ahead of schedule at its seventh property, Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort & Spa, which opened in May 2004 near the Downtown Disney area at the Walt Disney World® Resort.

dvc_john
10-12-2006, 04:01 PM
I expect (hope) that sales will have to start pretty quickly. If the first phase is slated to open in late 2007, lets say November, then the eleven month booking window will be this December.

Not necessarily.
With SSR, pre-sales began less than 11 months out from opening.
They set dates to begin taking reservations, and if I remember correctly, it was less than 7 months out. But they did set 2 dates - 1 for SSR owners and another later date for non-owners.

Boston5602
10-12-2006, 04:02 PM
SSR was the new kid on the block - so expect the same people to take shots at AKLV. they always pick on the new thing.

SSR is a wonderful resort. I prefer OKW - but hey everybody has different taste.


Yeah well....... I heard it's gonna be like the All Star rooms, and The walk to your room is gonna be LOOONNNNNGGGGGGGG and the pool isn't going to be heated and ohhhh my guide also told me they would not be able to link any ressies at this resort ..........also most people will not like the choice of food here , cause its not so good...........any ways thats just what THEY are saying ....I don't even think it will be this good.



P.s. I still may want to buy points here <VBG>

3DisneyKids
10-12-2006, 04:25 PM
The trundle is a great idea, but I suspect the hide-a-bed chair is more likely. That might be why the units will be more spacious. Maybe living room/kitchen combos more like OKW. Now THAT would be the best of two worlds! OKW size AND a savanna view! :thumbsup2


Diane--this is EXACTLY what I have been thinking/hoping! Ah, the wait continues....

We sure are a greedy bunch! lol For months we've been wondering when an announcement would be made...now that we finally have that info, we all want the floor plans, the furniture types, how many points per night, purchase price per point...and so on, so on, and so on.... :rotfl:

Yup, we're a greedy bunch, alright! :goodvibes

3DisneyKids
10-12-2006, 04:32 PM
We, too, will be at SSR next week :banana: . Why do I get this vision of groups of people lurking around the resort wearing deerslayer caps and trench coats, with magnifying glasses to examine all clues??? :rotfl:


We, too, will be there next week. Note to self: pack trench coat and spygear... :lmao:

I will certainly take whatever pics I can....

rwcmath
10-12-2006, 04:36 PM
I can't wait! This is going to be wonderful, and I'm saving my pay, ready to do an add on! :cheer2:

rwc

OneMoreTry
10-12-2006, 04:43 PM
[I am adding my post from another (officially closed) thread. ]

This will be the first time they've put DVC units in the same bldg with a Disney hotel.

:earsboy: Will they offer existing DVC members the first shot at buying into AKL?

:earsboy: What will be the smallest contract?

:earsboy: How will points compare to the other resorts? I imagine a Savannah View will be quite high.


I bet the 7 month window will be near-impossible especially at first with those in-lodge rooms.

CarolA
10-12-2006, 04:49 PM
[I am adding my post from another (officially closed) thread. ]

This will be the first time they've put DVC units in the same bldg with a Disney hotel.

:earsboy: Will they offer existing DVC members the first shot at buying into AKL?

:earsboy: What will be the smallest contract?

:earsboy: How will points compare to the other resorts? I imagine a Savannah View will be quite high.


I bet the 7 month window will be near-impossible especially at first with those in-lodge rooms.

1. Probably
2. I would assume the same buy in requirements as currently exist
3. WHO KNOWS?

CarolA
10-12-2006, 04:50 PM
OK, How many of us are there next week?

Should we plan the storming of the VAKL models......

(Meet at midnight, wear your trench coat, someone bring a lock pick....... what else do we need??? )