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staceymerrill
10-07-2006, 10:27 PM
**I am StaceyMerrill's DH....she in no way agrees with everything I am about to write.....

After 10 DCL, cruises, I would definitely describe this past one as "the bloom is off the rose".....In addition, like a once great marriage gone bad, the things that endeared you to a former partner are the things that you find most annoying....

My DSs and DW had a great time, and I am exceptionally happy about that...

However...

**Encountered major plumbing problem on formal evening....water in stateroom pee yellow....advised by guest services to turn water on in both bath and faucets....Subsequently,gooey black sludge purcolated through the floor drain of the other 1/2 bath with toilet and sink...utterly disgusting and unacceptable

**toilet had a sewage smell eminating from it entire cruise...had to keep door close...forgot to bring the Lysol

**the times that I called both guest services and room service, I had at least a 10-15 minute wait on-hold

**every scheduled program or event seemed to run 5-15 minutes late....this may seem trivial, but on vacation time is precious....this included pix with characters, as well as the opening at various times of Ocean Quest...

**Lines, lines, lines for everything.....Jack Sparrow photo opp near WD Theatre, off the ship, getting on the ship...

**Twice Charmed IMO a big disappointment....I also think the character "Franco Fortunato" perpetuates an ethnic stereotype....weak plot, although excellent staging...

**No more themed buffet lunches at Parrot Cay....Our waiter and head waiter explained it away as too narrow appeal to have a specific ethnic buffet ...I think that's nonsense.....these buffets offered many great cooked to order stations like stir fry/pastas, and IMO DCL thoght these stations were too labor intensive

**But, the food in the restaurants is definitely better than ever!

**Many of the children's programming seemed to not coincide with adult programs....I have at least 4 examples where DW and I wanted to do something, but were shut out because the club or lab were in transition et al...for example, DW and I were set to go to Kitchen Galley tour at 2:55 pm on Thursday, 2nd sea day, only to find out Flounders was not open at that time for the baby....NICE

**Not once in 7 days did the Vista Spa locker room attendants refill the liquid soap/shampoo dispenser in the shower...

**Rich Purpura, Freddy Fusion, Gary Delena.....Do they have compromising photos of DCL executives?

**debarkation disappointingly long and VERY un-DCL like....waited to get off ship, waited just after we got off ship, waited for a luggage porter, waited on a huge line to go through customs.....

Nevertheless, there were some highlights

**Cove Cafe for morning Espresso and Cap...quiet and comfortable surroundings
**As always, Rainforest Room a delight...great new thirsty thick towels in spa
**Palo....perfection
**Head waiter Aleksandra from the Netherlands.....one of the few restaurant CMs who IMO actually enjoyed speaking to us (go ahead and flame, but I've always thought the the waitstaff to be a tad insincere...especially the fake disappointment when my DSs and baby were in club/Flounders instead of joining us for dinner)
**Elsa, our stateroom host...efficient, very sweet, there when you need her....I tipped her exceptionally well, and she deserved it
**Disney Dreams.....just awesome as always
**Meat dishes at the rotation restaurants great..Lots of tenderloins....very tender(hence the name)
**90% of desserts great too
**Paninis at Goofys Galley.....unbelievably tasty....
**Flying Dutchmen at CC....a nice touch in an otherwise boring 1/2 day....

Will be researching extensively the Freedom of Seas for future cruises, which I think will probably blow away DCL in amenities and value from the reviews I've read....DCL is priced way too high for what you get, and trust me, the overall experience is no where near as good as 2-3 years ago.....

tinkerbellmom1
10-08-2006, 12:21 PM
Hi Stacey Merrill's DH!

We were on our first DCL vacation last November, in the Roy Suite, and had the same sewage smell. We called the concierge and complained-they sent maintenance, and a plumber, but it NEVER went away. And I brought Lysol! :furious: It really was bad. We ended up stuffing towels over the vent and leaving them there during the duration of the cruise. That cut down on the smell, but didn't get rid of it all together.

We are taking our 2nd Disney cruise in January. The Eastern this time. I haven't seen too many trip reports about the Eastern. We are trying Palo for the 1st time, and a couple excursions. Do you have any hints you would be willing to share?

Thanks! :tinker:

tjeagle
10-08-2006, 01:52 PM
Thanks for your honesty.....I imagine there was once something special there for you considering it was your 10th cruise!
I hope you are able to find some new magic!!

staceymerrill
10-08-2006, 02:46 PM
Yes, The Magic was very special to me at one time - especially when it was 1/2 the cost and twice the service - when they cared about promptness and keeping the ship in excellent repair - Unfortunately, success sometimes breeds complacency....for what we paid, i expected far more than what was delivered this time....and believe me, I have a basis for comparison....5 years ago on this board youd almost never read a negative trip report, as opposed to now....

DW and I will find magic on our NJ to Bermuda cruise aboard the Explorer of the Seas next October, followed by a family cruise on Freedom of the Seas....

Tinkerbellmom1, I would recommend a "non-DCL" excursion to St John on the Eastern, from St. Thomas.....do not miss Palo(!), because no matter how much I complain, Palo is perfection.....Have a 'real" coffee drink at Cove Cafe, relax and enjoy the atmosphere there....truly an oasis...the swill that DCL passes off as coffee in the restaurants and bev station is shameful....don't let your servers try to rush you through dinner....this was one more annoyance I forgot to mention in my trip report....shopping is great in St Thomas, but if you are planning to buy a big ticket item like a watch, do your research on the Internet....that way, you get an apples to apples comparison....for me, buying any sort of diamond jewelry for DW proved to be too risky....no basis for comparison and no recourse if I found out later I got less than expected....get to photo opps early, especially the one with Jack Sparrow...even though it will start late like everything else on the cruise, at least you wont have to wait like we did for 30 minutes like cattle....take the Kitchen galley tour on 2nd sea day, really fascinating.... ;)

HookedonMagic
10-08-2006, 03:52 PM
Thanks for sharing. Best wishes for better experiences with your upcoming Royal Caribbean vacations!

BethA
10-08-2006, 05:06 PM
Sorry to hear the cruise wasn't as magical as previous times. I hope that does not indicate that service on a whole is going down. We have cruised with DCL 6 times and some were better than others in different areas. The last we did have the long phone wait for room service--no excuse for that-they know everyone orders!

We were in the Roy suite in June 2006 and had the same sewage smell----disgusting!!!

Everyone seems to have a diffeerent experience--we were on RCL and not impressed, but others have loved it. Thanks for posting what you experienced.

suzannef
10-08-2006, 05:23 PM
I love reading trip reports/reviews where there seems to be a balanced point of view and excellent examples when something is not up to paras well as what exactly made something do great. It seems unreal when people say everything was perfect from beginning to end. I feel badly that this experience wasn't as "magical" for you. It certainly makes it hard to justify the hefty costs. I do hope you will post again when you have tried the other cruise lines as I would love to hear your honest opinions. Thanks again for your time posting this it is greatly appreciated. :goodvibes

captchris
10-08-2006, 06:54 PM
Aleksandra was our head server as well. She was great! She took DS 4 under her wing and teased him about eating vegetables. After a couple of nights, she would bring both DS and DD corn on the cob every night. We had DS hand her her tip for the week. She gave him a huge hug! I made sure I listed her name on the comment card. She was/is great!

cristit14
10-08-2006, 06:55 PM
Sorry you didn't enjoy your trip as much as in the past. Hopefully, you will love your next cruise.

CaptainJack
10-08-2006, 07:06 PM
Nevertheless, there were some highlights

**Head waiter Aleksandra from the Netherlands.....one of the few restaurant CMs who IMO actually enjoyed speaking to us
**Elsa, our stateroom host...efficient, very sweet, there when you need her....I tipped her exceptionally well, and she deserved it


I can only say that our experience on the September 2 cruise was much different than your experience, with the exception of these 2 highlights.

We had the same head server and she was wonderful. The September cruise was our third cruise and this was the first one that our head server did ANYTHING or spent any amount of time at our table. The first 2 cruises the head server came to the table once, said hello, and disappeared.

Elsa was also our stateroom host. He is very nice, very efficient and on top of things. My DDs bday was on September 7 while were on the cruise. That night instead of making a towel animal, she made a towel bday cake. Very cool.

ragdoll
10-08-2006, 08:10 PM
Thank you for taking the time to write a trip report. I appreciate your observations. DH and I were on the Sept. Double Dip and felt the same way. The "magic" was missing. This was our tenth DCL cruise too. Funny thing is we did the Eastern this past May and it was the best DCL cruise of all. What a difference a few months made!

I forgot to put in my trip report that we mentioned our disappointment to one of the CM's and she said that they were in a "transition period". I am hoping that means that things will soon be improving. We will be cruising on the Wonder in May and the Magic next Sept. We have two "fake dates" booked but if things don't improve we will start looking into other cruise lines. I never thought that I would feel that way. But when you are paying more you expect more and should receive more.

Stinasmom
10-08-2006, 08:32 PM
We also had to deal with plumbing problems and a horrible smell for a couple days. Wasn't just our room, however--- Here's the story:

We were on a West Coast sailing (to Mexico) in 6/05 staying on Deck 2. When we were leaving Cabo San Lucas the winds were so strong the ship listed for a few hours as we rounded the tip of Baja (turning). We were amused by all the water sloshing out of the pools and onto the deck but were NOT amused to find that our bathrooms (split) were flooding with VERY stinky water. Made me wonder what happened to Deck 1 rooms!
We were fortunate that the water never crested the lip between the bathroom and carpeted floor of the stateroom, but nearby staterooms were not so lucky. The water was coming up from the floor drain and from the shower/bath drain. They had those big blowers going for hours to dry carpets in rooms and the halls.
Our stateroom attendent cleaned our bathrooms but the smell eminating from the floor drain was there for the rest of the trip (1 1/2 days). I couldn't have imagined that I would be happy to disembark, but I was very sick of the smell.

This may have been an isolated incident but I doubt it happened to the cabins on the upper decks. What deck were you on?

That being said, we are sailing again this December and did rebook Cat. 9 on Deck 2. Fingers crossed!

dursin
10-08-2006, 09:32 PM
**I am StaceyMerrill's DH....she in no way agrees with everything I am about to write.....

After 10 DCL, cruises, I would definitely describe this past one as "the bloom is off the rose".....In addition, like a once great marriage gone bad, the things that endeared you to a former partner are the things that you find most annoying....

My DSs and DW had a great time, and I am exceptionally happy about that...

However...
We were on the same cruise...however... :-)

**Encountered major plumbing problem on formal evening....water in stateroom pee yellow....advised by guest services to turn water on in both bath and faucets....Subsequently,gooey black sludge purcolated through the floor drain of the other 1/2 bath with toilet and sink...utterly disgusting and unacceptableWe had the exact same problem...and I agree...100% unacceptable. I heard that their main water tank failed and they had to switch over to a backup and the brown water was caused by residue in that tank, but still....that's absolutely no excuse. If you know that your reserve tank is going to have residue, purge it before allowing it to flow into the entire ships plumbing system.

**toilet had a sewage smell eminating from it entire cruise...had to keep door close...forgot to bring the LysolWe had the exact same problem as well, but in only one of our two connecting staterooms. I noticed that the bathroom that did NOT have the problem had the floor drain covered up. The bathroom with the over had an open grating over the floordrain with water visible in it. I mentioned it and nothing was ever done. Another inexcusable problem. Just out of curiousity, what stateroom or area of the ship were you in?

**the times that I called both guest services and room service, I had at least a 10-15 minute wait on-holdUsually I got thru in a minute or two, except for the 'brown water incident'. Since that effected the entire ship I can imagine that everyone would have been calling.

**Twice Charmed IMO a big disappointment....I also think the character "Franco Fortunato" perpetuates an ethnic stereotype....weak plot, although excellent staging...My entire family agrees here. This show was one big waste of time from start to finish. I can't believe they replaced Hercules with such a poor quality show. We'll likely never see it again. On my comment card, I marked the other two big shows as "Excellent" and this one as "Just Okay".

**But, the food in the restaurants is definitely better than ever!Agree! Food was really good, though I was disappointed in the lobster served on captain's gala night. Seemed over-cooked and not that good.

**Many of the children's programming seemed to not coincide with adult programs....I have at least 4 examples where DW and I wanted to do something, but were shut out because the club or lab were in transition et al...for example, DW and I were set to go to Kitchen Galley tour at 2:55 pm on Thursday, 2nd sea day, only to find out Flounders was not open at that time for the baby....NICENoticed this as well. Whoever put the schedule together for this cruise really did a poor job. Probably the worst example was scheduling the final "Til we Meet Again" event from 10:15 to 10:45 on Friday night....after a full day at Castaway Cay and when luggage needed to be outside your door by 11:00pm. They really needed to give people until at least 11:30 or even midnight to get the luggage out or move "Til we Meet Again" up to 9:45 or so.

**Rich Purpura, Freddy Fusion, Gary Delena.....Do they have compromising photos of DCL executives?You didn't like them? I thought all three were great and would love to see any of the three again on a future cruise.

**debarkation disappointingly long and VERY un-DCL like....waited to get off ship, waited just after we got off ship, waited for a luggage porter, waited on a huge line to go through customs.....Had the same problems. Only been on one DCL cruise prior to this, but debarkation was much smoother on that one!



Nevertheless, there were some highlights

**Head waiter Aleksandra from the Netherlands.....one of the few restaurant CMs who IMO actually enjoyed speaking to us (go ahead and flame, but I've always thought the the waitstaff to be a tad insincere...especially the fake disappointment when my DSs and baby were in club/Flounders instead of joining us for dinner)lol...we had the opposite. Our head waiter was about as useless as they come and made me feel stupid for even handing him a tip. If there was a way to call DCL and take his tip back I would! Our server and assistant servers were great though....as was our stateroom host.

**Flying Dutchmen at CC....a nice touch in an otherwise boring 1/2 day....We though this was cool as well, but went parasailing, snorkling, etc... so had a far from boring day at CC. For us the St. Thomas was incredible boring....at least Magen's Bay was which is where we decided to go for the afternoon.

Will be researching extensively the Freedom of Seas for future cruises, which I think will probably blow away DCL in amenities and value from the reviews I've read....DCL is priced way too high for what you get, and trust me, the overall experience is no where near as good as 2-3 years ago.....We already booked a 4 day on the Wonder for next year....I'm hoping it doesn't have the same 'stinky bathroom' problem as the Magic did! :-)

pgfour
10-08-2006, 10:18 PM
Very interesting report. :thumbsup2 We're going on the Eastern cruise in November; hopefully your experience was an exception, not the rule.

Nevertheless, it's good to go into something with realistic expectations, so we won't be expecting perfection! That being said, smells, rudeness, and poor service are unacceptable.

Hope your experiences with other lines will be better!

Cheri

DISNEYMOMTO1
10-08-2006, 10:34 PM
So sorry you had such an "un" magical trip. I was on the same cruise and DD8 and I had a fabulous time. So much so, we are booking a Western for 2008 when the dates come out. Didn't notice any problems with the sewer, except sometimes making noise. Didn't have any kind of smell in our room, either. Maybe it was just that side of the ship? I don't know. I will say we were hardly ever in our room, so we didn't notice.

I don't have anything to compare our trip with; however, this was our first cruise with any cruise line. I will agree about the debarkation process, though. What a nightmare! Character lines went fast for us, and my DD "chased" characters to get in the front of the line. She always knew who was going to be where, LOL.

Our Server, Densak from Thailand, left alot to be desired and our head server was hardly ever around. He didn't even show up for the last night or the morning, so OH WELL, he didn't get a tip from us. Our assistant server Paz from Chile was WONDERFUL and bonded with DD. DD cried and was sad to leave.

We enjoyed all our excursions through Disney. However, Coral World is a little run down. I guess it is what you are used to. DD got seasick on the Sea and See Island Tour, but had a good time anyways. The stingray feeding at Castaway Cay was outstanding, and we spent the day at the beach and it was wonderful. Did anyone see the coast guard come onto Castaway Cay? I wonder what that was about. The food was great, and I loved all the shows. I thought Gary and Rich were funny. DD absolutely loved all three production shows. I agree with you on Twice Charmed.

Mickey pool being closed for a couple hours on at sea day really sucked, but there is nothing you can do when you have kids who have accidents in pools, nothing Disney can do either.

IMHO, I went on this cruise for DD's birthday and she enjoyed every single minute of it and I wouldn't change it for the world. Everyone made her birthday a special day, beginning with room service BD cake. That is really all that mattered to me.

Hope you enjoy your future cruises! :goodvibes

SweetSpot
10-08-2006, 10:40 PM
Sorry you didn't enjoy your cruise. We found the same disappointing experience last year on our 4th cruise and are hoping things have changed this year. We were in a transition in staff last year and all the CM's seemed to be still getting use to their time on the ship. One piece of advice, go into the Explorer cruise with an open mind. We were comparing the two when we went in June and there really is no comparison. We came away understanding why DCL costs more but in the end both were very good cruises.

What have they replaced the themed lunch buffets with? Does this mean there are no seafood, Italian, Chinese...? It would be horrible if lunch became the same thing day in and day out like breakfast.

Stinasmom
10-08-2006, 10:56 PM
You know, after thinking about your "un-magical" cruise... I remembered that you said this was your 10th (!!) DCL cruise. Did this last experience really cancel out all of your previous experiences? To rebook 9 times (!!) after a first DCL cruise must have meant you thought this was a really good use of a lot of vacation dollars!
I would be VERY curious to hear your comparison of your future cruises on a different cruise line to the reality of your overall experience on DCL (not just the last one). Has DCL really "lost it" over the years or was this an isolated set of incidences?

Also you mentioned having a child young enough to need the services of Flounders. I wonder how satisfying the child care services will be on the "other" cruise line? (Although, I have to say, I can't believe Flounders has certain hours and isn't staffed all day like the other kids clubs on DCL. That makes no sense).
Sorry, again that your most recent trip was so sub par. I hope Disney has heard about your dissatisfactions too!

staceymerrill
10-08-2006, 11:29 PM
stinasmom:

Up until this recent cruise, I was a huge DCL fan.....my oldest 2 DSs grew up on DCL cruises since they were babies.....LOL - my dentist became a DCL fanatic based on my original recommendation .....

I think the genesis of of my dissatisfaction with this cruise began with the cost....as we now have a baby, 11 months, our party of 5 required me to book connecting cat. 9 staterooms....although I booked a year ago onboard , and received a $400 stateroom credit, I wound up spending at least $1500 more for this cruise than any previous 7-day....Thus, my expectations for this cruise were elevated, yet ultimately unfulfilled....Moreover, I think DCL has gone way overboard (pun intended) , restricting FL res rates, and IMO fostering OPEC-Like pricing ....restricting supply (no new ships) to get maximum $.....why is it that every mass market cruise line introduces new and better ships, yet an entertainment giant like Disney hasn't? makes you wonder.....The Disney trivia expert onboard (forgot his name) could only give the "little thing called 9/11" excuse....

Unfortunately, I don't think my negative experience was isolated....one thing that I didnt even mention in my report that bothered me - I think the ship is really starting to show wear.....again, 5-15 minute late starts of certain programming, corners cut IMO with respect to labor (they cut out ethnic buffets IMO so they wouldnt have to man 'cook to order" stations)

As for the child care services i.e. Flounders, I am aware that DCL is unique in this offering....the next family cruise we take, our baby will be old enough to partake in regular childrens programming aboard RCCL FOS....note also that Flounders is open far less than Oceaneers...on 2nd sea day, hours were 10-2 during the day, so DW and I couldnt go together to 2:55 galley tour

dursin, I am glad that you commiserate with me on some of my complaints , as IMO I thought they were legit and not nitpicky.....although, even on our best DCL cruises, I never bought into the "Castaway Cay" is paradise sensibility.....it is , and always will be IMO, a very clean, nice beach and island with a DJ that needs to buy some new CDs that don't skip.....I figure those who live in Hawaii who would take a DCL cruise would agree with me....we have some pretty nice beaches here in S. FL as well....

DisneyDmbNut
10-09-2006, 11:23 AM
Hey Stacey and DH!! (betsy from WPB)

We had Alexsandra last year and we even went to AP to say hello on embarkment...she was so great!! Loved her...

We never had a smell, but the water tasted salty and we had to switch to bottled after a few days

ps...remember FOTS holds something like 4k people...they did a article about the passengers standing in line for long periods because the amount of people that were onboard..also..the ship kinda floods an island with all the passengers when it docks and some islands are having a hard time with it.
At least..that is what I was reading when she first started sailing

stretch
10-09-2006, 12:43 PM
I was on the same cruise and would like to share some of my observations both good and bad.

1. My family liked Twiced Charmed (are we the only ones)! The real waste of time was that silly show (if you can call it that) on the last night, can't remember it's name.

2. Kids clubs were awsome. Big problem though, unlike before, on the first night it's open house to all. I know this is to make some kids more comfortable but it had the opposite effect on ours. They said it was so niosy and crowded that they couldn't have fun. They had no desire to go back! Once we convinced them to try it again they loved it. If they had not been on a previous Disney cruise I doubt they would have gone back.

3. Food in the dining rooms much improved from last years cruise!

4. Had the brown stuff come out in our water too. YUK!

5. Servers in restaurants not as good. Just like the orginal poster said they acted like they were disappointed when we chose not to bring our kids. I believe it had more to do with their being afraid that we would not tip them their amount if we didn't bring them.

6. Server seemed "put out" by any type of special request, no matter how minor.

7. Getting off the ship was a nighmare!

8. Agree on the long lines everywhere. You would think that the amount Disney charges there should be numerous character appearances all over the ship. I have to laugh everytime I see the promo video showing the kids and the characters with no one else around! Like that really happens!

9. Topsiders buffet food quality has gone down.

10. First trip to Palo's. Wonderful!

11. BBQ had Castaway Cay was AWFUL. Also, nothing like sitting on a WOODEN table that is being used over and over again! Not very sanitary.

12. Castaway Cay was beautiful. Thanks for the tip about walking to the far side. Smaller crowd made it a more enjoyable experience than last trip.

13. Wasn't the weather beautiful!!

14. Boarding by numbers? HA! Nobody checked or seem to care what number you had when you boarded.

15. Castaway Club get together was boring and overcrowded. Left after 5 minutes.

DisneyDmbNut
10-09-2006, 01:03 PM
Ok..I agree about the CC thing..what a waste of time!

Our server was great..so was our head server..one morning I wanted grits that I saw in Topsiders..they first tried to find them without cheese, but when they couldn't..brought me the cheese ones with a "sorry, we couldn't find them without" One night, I wanted shrimp cocktail..Cipran brought it to me! DD sometimes didn't want to eat a whole meal..he brought her a baked potato instead..and brought us numerous desserts for our tasting..much better than our servers last year...
in addition, he made several napkin animals for DD and her friends

LOVED him!

TahoeMom
10-09-2006, 01:45 PM
Our Server, Densak from Thailand, left alot to be desired and our head server was hardly ever around. He didn't even show up for the last night or the morning, so OH WELL, he didn't get a tip from us. Our assistant server Paz from Chile was WONDERFUL and bonded with DD. DD cried and was sad to leave.

We had Densak and Paz last week as well - we were at the late seating. We thought Densak was great - I am sorry you were not so happy with him. My children definitely loved Paz! She gave them both a lot of special attention and my DS Jeremy is in love with her! He keeps saying "I miss Paz!"

We had a great time at the different family entertainment events, especially the "game shows". The whole entertainment group (Kenyon, Natalie, Stephanie, Michael, Doug, etc.) were GREAT fun! They were definitely one of the best parts of the cruise for us!

I am sorry the OP did not have a magical vacation. We were lucky enough to be completely unaffected by the water situation - we did not even know about it until I read the posts when we returned.

Our biggest complaint was the kids' clubs. My children went maybe twice each and neither was very happy there. My DS did want to go in the first place but I had hoped he would really like it once he got there - no such luck. My DD was really looking forward to it and wanted to meet some new friends but ended up being quite disappointed. One event she wanted to attend was Towel Animals - they had run out of towels so she got to participate by watching another kid do the folding - not too much fun. It just seemed like the kids were left to their own and if you have a child that does not feel comfortable in a new situation very easily then the club does not work out very well - I wish the CMs had made more effort to get my kids involved in what was going on. I don't think either of my kids had any real interaction with the CMs other than checking in and out.

Anyway, we were just as happy to spend time together as a family so in the end it all worked out. We did ask the kids to go to the clubs for 30-40 minutes on Thursday so we could attend the Galley Tour (which was very interesting!) but other than that we did most things together!

Kathie

Beachball
10-09-2006, 04:19 PM
Yes, The Magic was very special to me at one time - especially when it was 1/2 the cost and twice the service - when they cared about promptness and keeping the ship in excellent repair - Unfortunately, success sometimes breeds complacency....for what we paid, i expected far more than what was delivered this time....and believe me, I have a basis for comparison....5 years ago on this board youd almost never read a negative trip report, as opposed to now....
I'm not sure if they are complacent. I think the problem runs a little deeper. A long-time DCL waiter was telling us that it is very hard to get staff members to remain employees on DCL, because, with only two ships, there is little room for advancement. On other cruise lines, with many more ships and new ones being built all the time, there is always room for stellar performers to move up within the company. This encourages employees to go "above and beyond." DCL, unfortunately, cannot provide this upward mobility, so staff turnover, and consequently, customer service, will undoubtedly suffer.

staceymerrill
10-09-2006, 06:09 PM
beachball:

that was a very interesting and insightful reply...If this is true about CM turnover, it is truly a shame....my problems with the cruise had little to do with attitude of the CMs, but the lack of abundance of CMs (answering the phone at guest services and room service, character handlers showing up late etc)....just as an aside, many of our past servers and CMs were still on the ship from as long as 5 years ago....Mclean, Plamen from Bulgaria, Ansell from Jamaica, just to name 3....

Much of my frustration with DCL is why they don't build at least 1 new ship....It really begs the question: "is DCL as profitable and successful as we all think?"......If so, wouldnt the natural progression of such success to build a new ship that rivals the best of the best (size and amenities)currently out there ????....

kritter
10-09-2006, 10:46 PM
Enjoyed reading all of your posts....


I do not know how anyone could stand that smell you all are talking about????

I hope I do not encounter this on my upcoming cruise...I will complain untill it is taken care of..Believe me!!!!!!!

PizzieDuster
10-10-2006, 04:24 AM
Well, after 3 DCL cruises, my teen boys wanted something different and last April we cruised the Explorer of the Seas and loved it!

We are sailing on Freedom of The Seas on April 8, 2007! I'm so excited! I have DS17, DS14 and DD8 when that cruise comes along.

Babysitting: On the Explorer, we paid for a private babysitter for my DD7 after dinner several nights. They come to your stateroom and follow directions.... they took her to the kids club, mini golf, arcade, ordered room service, etc. My daughter LOVED that one on one especially in the clubs. She's the shy type and always asked for "Kit" every night, and she even started talking with an Austrailian accent!

My teens just loved the Explorer and can't wait to sail on the Freedom this coming April! They just didn't want to see any characters. :confused3

We are looking forward to the Freedom and the H20 Zone!

FYI: This is a very INTERNATIONAL line.... I was talking to a table mate for 15 minutes and then realized her husband and DS10 spoke no English! I'd walk into an elevator and start chatting up and got blank stares.... wierd...after the 3rd day I just waited for the other person to speak first! :thumbsup2

The food was fantastic! We loved our Junior Suite! The staff was fantastic! A waiter even carried our dessert and wine back to our stateroom as my DH was carrying DD7! The were no chair hogs because there are chairs available EVERYWHERE! We loved the casino, we had sooo much fun! The teens loved everything! DD7 loved the pools and the huge jacuzzis, mini golf. But there is No Disney Magic.....like characters and Mickey ears, Disney shows, etc.

My Explorer Pics:

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/553065095Hmmdml

Some Freedom Pics:
http://community.webshots.com/slideshow?ID=551140882&key=VbBlXn

Babs417
10-10-2006, 08:42 AM
One of the keys to happines is a bad memory. :thumbsup2 :sunny: ;) :goodvibes :)

pgfour
10-10-2006, 08:54 AM
I'm very disappointed to hear that the debarkation process has become very tedious.

When we went last year, that was the smoothest part of the cruise! Compared to the other four lines we have been on, DCL seemed to have that process nailed. Not the case anymore????? :confused3

DisneyDmbNut
10-10-2006, 08:55 AM
I have read here on the DIS that the smell can be taken care of by pouring water down the floor drain...being in construction, this makes sense to me..toilets keep the sewer gas from coming up because the water remains in the bowl..acting as a plug..also the reason the trap is in the sink pipes ( not just to catch our rings and earrings!)...water remains there to prevent sewer gas from coming up...
I didn't have the smell, but I read about the water trick about 2 or 3 months ago here and thought of it when I was looking at the floor drains in my bathroom

DisneyDmbNut
10-10-2006, 08:59 AM
I'm very disappointed to hear that the debarkation process has become very tedious.

When we went last year, that was the smoothest part of the cruise! Compared to the other four lines we have been on, DCL seemed to have that process nailed. Not the case anymore????? :confused3
Last year, we walked right off..no lines..I don't know if it was because there was a large group of us and we took longer to eat breakfast or what..but this year, we waited about 20 minutes in line to get off.

Now..I don't know if this is DCL's fault or not..Customs was REALLY backed up and I noticed they were taking longer to clear people...this backed up the ramp and escalators to let people out of the ship...

staceymerrill
10-10-2006, 10:35 AM
yes, debarkation was very disappointing......first, we waited quite a long time to get off ship.....If i had known the wait would be so long, we would have went to breakfast at AP...we decided, as we usually do, to forget about breakfast, as we wanted to get on the road....past DCL experience was that by 8 am you could just walk off ship...Not this time !....once we finally got off ship, there was another major bottleneck in the upper floor of terminal....took elevator down to luggage area....no luggage porters anywhere...in prior cruises, there would be 2 or 3 vying for your business....I had to queue up at the door to wait for a porter, another 10-15 minutes....then the major long line the entire length of terminal to get past customs and present declaration form....

I've heard horror stories of 3-4 hour debarkation times with other lines, so in comparison....However, we were used to 10 minutes from ship to car....

ragdoll
10-10-2006, 10:49 AM
Although I was a bit disappointed in our Sept. cruise I just wanted to mention that debarkation was as smooth as ever. I think that what you experienced was not the norm, just an occasional thing. Maybe a customs issue or something else. :confused3

pyramid2000
10-19-2006, 01:41 PM
Just wanted to tell the OP to have a blast on EOS to Bermuda! Gather as much info as you can beforehand and decide what you want to do before you get there. We took a private taxi around the island. EOS is beautiful, the staff is super friendly and I am sure you will have a great time.

MagicMe
10-19-2006, 11:31 PM
Just cruised the Wonder in August and disembarking was quick and easy. However, I will say that (1) we had late seating, (2) we went for our sit-down breakfast especially to see our servers one last time, and (3) we were in no hurry to leave!! :lmao: Guess everyone left before us so we had no problems getting off the ship!!

ChiFiveO
10-20-2006, 09:31 AM
I think the sewage smell must be a common problem on cruise lines. We were on a Royal Caribbean Enchantment of the Seas last December. The 3rd day into the cruise, the raw sewage smell appeared in our bathroom and went throughout the whole room and never went away. No explanation from room steward or customer service...they "looked into it" for the remainder of the trip.

mom x4,grandma x4
10-23-2006, 12:49 PM
staceymerrill,
I am so sorry to hear you had so many bad experiences this time.
I have to agree after 12 cruises, the cutbacks they have done and the raising of their prices has taken the Magic away!!

WE LOVE DCL, so please dont misunderstand, what I am about to say.

PLEASE take the time to send a letter to DCL letting them know the good and the bad things you encountered on your cruise. Let them know the Magic is gone for you!!
There are 2 threads on the main forum right now that address just what everyone here has been talking about. There have been so many cutback the past couple of years and the quality we expect with the Disney name just isnt there like it use to be.

It is still a great cruise, but if your a repeat cruiser you can really see the difference.

If we dont take the time to write and tell them then we have NO right to complain!! They dont know unless we tell them there is a problem.
So please write and rell them how you feel, things can change for the beter so we all can enjoy the Magic of Disney cruising again if we all voice our views in a possitive constructive way with DCL

Plus fill out those comment cards on the ship!!!

Here is where to write:

dcl.guest.communications@disneycruise.com

Thankyou
mom x4,grandma x4