Refillable mugs at moderate resorts?

[PopArtGal]

Are there refillable mugs at moderate resorts?

[F4disneyfan]

Yes they have them at all the resorts not just the deluxe and value resorts.

[Deb & Bill]

Yes they have them at all the resorts not just the deluxe and value resorts.

Huh??? They have refillable mugs at all resort, including value, deluxe, moderate. You can only use it at the resort you are staying at during the length of your stay.

[F4disneyfan]

Huh??? They have refillable mugs at all resort, including value, deluxe, moderate. You can only use it at the resort you are staying at during the length of your stay.


The ? was do they have them at the moderate resorts so I answered the ? I was assuming they had visited the value resorts and Deluxes or they would have asked the ? of all resorts not just the Moderates.

[mickaholic4077]

Huh??? They have refillable mugs at all resort, including value, deluxe, moderate. You can only use it at the resort you are staying at during the length of your stay.


That is the stated policy,but i have used the same mug at different resorts and at different stays and never has any CM told me I can't use the mug. As long as Disney builds the soda fountain isle outside of the area where you pay for things in the food courts,they are acknowledging that people re-use mugs and it is okay with them.

[sconnell]

:sad2: :badpc:
Here it comes.
popcorn:: popcorn:: popcorn::

To the OP:
I hope to get my new mug at POFQ on Sunday! :cool1:

[Carnator]

popcorn:: yep.. here it comes.... popcorn::

"Double the powder and shorten the fuse"

[sconnell]

popcorn:: yep.. here it comes.... popcorn::

"Double the powder and shorten the fuse"
Hey, another SAV DISer! :cool1: We seem to be adding more to the team lately! :banana:

[I Love Pluto]

I love my Pop mug. I used it for a week in July when we were there. Now I use it for my morning coffee at home. When I return to Pop next July, I will purchase another mug.

Be Cool - Follow the Rule!

:thumbsup2

[CleveRocks]

That is the stated policy,but i have used the same mug at different resorts and at different stays and never has any CM told me I can't use the mug. As long as Disney builds the soda fountain isle outside of the area where you pay for things in the food courts,they are acknowledging that people re-use mugs and it is okay with them.
... or they're assuming that most people aren't thieves.

... or they're assuming that people will refrain from doing anything they believe they can get away with even if they know it's wrong.

Today, I saw that my nearest supermarket had racks and racks of potted mums outside, but there was no employee and no cash register stationed outside. By your standards, as long as Pathmark puts the merchandise outside of the area where you pay for things, they are acknowledging that people don't pay for the merchandise and it is okay with them.

Grow up.

And to everyone else, I'm sorry for feeding the troll, but I can't sleep and have nothing better to do right now.

[mickaholic4077]

... or they're assuming that most people aren't thieves.

... or they're assuming that people will refrain from doing anything they believe they can get away with even if they know it's wrong.

Today, I saw that my nearest supermarket had racks and racks of potted mums outside, but there was no employee and no cash register stationed outside. By your standards, as long as Pathmark puts the merchandise outside of the area where you pay for things, they are acknowledging that people don't pay for the merchandise and it is okay with them.

Grow up.

And to everyone else, I'm sorry for feeding the troll, but I can't sleep and have nothing better to do right now.

:love: :love: Love you too!! :love: :love:

[PopArtGal]

That's ok ;)

Thank you to everyone who answered.

We have stayed at all-stars music 2 times and didn't know we could reuse the ones we had bought last time. So we now have 5 of these mugs hehehe But since we are now changing resorts...we will buy other mugs because we treasure them as memories of that resort :)

[Deb & Bill]

That's ok ;)

Thank you to everyone who answered.

We have stayed at all-stars music 2 times and didn't know we could reuse the ones we had bought last time. ...

Uh, you can't reuse them. That's what CleveRocks was trying to tell mickaholic4077. :confused3

[mickaholic4077]

Uh, you can't reuse them. That's what CleveRocks was trying to tell mickaholic4077. :confused3


And I was trying to say to the OP that it may be the stated policy that you can't re-use the mugs,but it happens all the time and you holier-than-thou types who can afford to buy a 12 dollar mug each and every time you stay at Disney should cut people who have to carefully budget some slack. :love: :love: :love:

[Deb & Bill]

And I was trying to say to the OP that it may be the stated policy that you can't re-use the mugs,but it happens all the time and you holier-than-thou types who can afford to buy a 12 dollar mug each and every time you stay at Disney should cut people who have to carefully budget some slack. :love: :love: :love:

I didn't realize that budgeting included cheating a company out of money for their product. Sorry, I didn't realize that.

[safetymom]

Disney policy is that the mug is good for the resort you purchased it at for the length of stay. The mug is a bargain so I don't understand how people can't afford it. Maybe you need to save awhile longer to go. If you don't want to buy a mug make a grocery stop and buy some beverages.

[TENIA66]

yet another refillable mug debate!!!


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[Carnator]

Hey, another SAV DISer! We seem to be adding more to the team lately!

sconnell


:banana: :banana: :banana:

[mickaholic4077]

Okay,I'll bite. What's a SAV DISer??? :confused3

[Goofy_4_WDW]

Be Cool - Follow the Rule!

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We were so suprised how many people we saw at POR food court with other resort mugs, some clearly looking very old. We even saw Dixie Landings mugs!!
I just dont get it. Why dont people follow rules??

[CleveRocks]

And I was trying to say to the OP that it may be the stated policy that you can't re-use the mugs,but it happens all the time and you holier-than-thou types who can afford to buy a 12 dollar mug each and every time you stay at Disney should cut people who have to carefully budget some slack. :love: :love: :love:I didn't know that refraining from stealing would make me "holier than thou." I think you think you're "holier than thou," as you consider yourself worthy of deciding which laws should be followed and which you feel justified in breaking.

Mick, I'd love it if you could address the example I gave in my earlier post: Today, I saw that my nearest supermarket had racks and racks of potted mums outside, but there was no employee and no cash register stationed outside. By your standards, as long as Pathmark puts the merchandise outside of the area where you pay for things, they are acknowledging that people don't pay for the merchandise and it is okay with them. Is it OK to take the mums, since the store placed them, as you put it, "outside the area where you pay for things"?

[jworthy]

Just curious...I have a quick question...when does Disney change the design on the mugs. I will be going in January and I am looking forward to getting a different design from the plain one from POR that I purchased last year. Don't get me wrong, I love using the mug each morning for a drink, but I would like the design to be a bit more stylish/colorful. Thank you in advance!

[F4disneyfan]

We always re use our All Star mugs and our Dixie and CSR mugs the policy was not in place when we purchased them and we were expressly told they were good forever and can be brought back for subsequent visits so we do.

[MouseyMin]

:goodvibes Okay, I'm going to hold my nose and jump in here (and I hope I don't regret it!) I also belong to another bulletin board. A couple of people on that one (not me) wrote to Disney and asked them what their current policy is on mugs that were purchased before the "length of stay" rule was put in place. I know a lot of people are not going to like the answer, but here it is: Disney said that if they were purchased when the "good forever" rules applied, then the mug is still able to be used at that resort only. If the mug says on it "good for length of stay only" (or whatever the exact words are), then it means just that. No flames, please - I'm new here! :wave2:

[Corwin12]

I gotta get on this one, as I have read lots of threads on this. I do not buy the mugs nor have any intention of doing so. What is it you can fill them with? I know there are hot ones that you can use for coffee, teac, and cocoa, but what can you fill with the cold ones with? Juice?? Because if it is only soda or something similar, I hardly think it is a bargain. $12.00 to fill cup with sugar and water as many times as you want during your stay ... Cup: 12 dollars, cost to supply unlimited soda: 3 cents, convincing people they are getting a great deal: priceless.
No flames, please, just trying to be funny, because I also believe: you are on vacation, have fun and worry about the money when you get home :banana:

[PopArtGal]

Wow!

All I wanted to do is ask a simple question.

I had no idea it would turn out to be such a debate!

I almost regret asking the question haahahaha

[kevin75]

actually i am just curious if they have any bigger size than 12 oz.? we are looking at staying at POFQ and i read that theirs was only 12 oz. that is really small to me.

[snowgooseltd]

We purchased our mugs on our first family vacation in December of 1995 at Dixie Landings. At the time there were five adults and three children. We now number six adults and five children. We stay at DXL, now known as POR, exclusively once or twice a year and use our original mugs each time. We were told, when we first bought them, that they were good for return visits, and our mugs often bring comments from CMs and guests alike. I have no problem using them as often as I do. I figure that the thousands of dollars I spend, at WDW, yearly, more than makes up for a few pennies worth of beverage. Ours are used primarily for coffee and diet Coke.

[Vickie46]

I would feel like I was stealing.. I couldn't do that.. heck.. my husband don't even like to get something to drink if we just buy one.. he goes and gets something else...

[Vickie46]

I just re read and some of you have been told that you could re use.. that is great! I had no idea!

[misses k 45]

Hello to everyone,

I've never posted how I've felt on some of the questions or answers/advise that people have posted, so hear I go. As I'm reading thru this thread I am trying not to laugh at what one simple question asked has turned into a debate with some people. People, play nice. Someone could of just suggested that you call disney, but no.... sorry.

No offense to anyone but there is a toll free number for disney that I'm sure they can answer all of your questions or most of them. That is their job.

I admit that one more mug does add to the clutter at home and do they really get used after the vacation. I'm always using mine for coffee if not for water.

The mugs are a pretty good deal and just think... when you're done with your vacation and you do re-use your mugs don't they remind you of all the fun you had at disney and make you want to start planning another trip?

I just can't believe how people over react. So I hope not to many people have gotten all bent out of shape over my comment.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I am sure you all won't believe me but, a few Cast Members told me at the Contemporary they don't care if you bring back old mugs. I then mentioned about them saying good for lenght of stay on them. They told me not to worry about it because the cost of the syrup for the soda is less then 5 cents, so it's not a major problem if people re-use mugs the way some members here make it out to be. I am guessing some of you may tell me, those CM's told you that answer because they would not want to upset you or anything. Well if that were true, why would they just not come out & say that old mugs can not be brought back? After all that is what everyone else here has said, so why did they just not say the same thing? Also If the CM's don't care, why should anyone else? One CM who reads Disboards, say some members who post here go over board when talking about mug rules. Disclaimer, those were their words & not mine. Anyway if you choose to believe what I said that's fine, if you choose not to agree with me, then that is your right. I am just saying what I was told.

[CleveRocks]

I am sure you all won't believe me but, a few Cast Members told me at the Contemporary they don't care if you bring back old mugs. I then mentioned about them saying good for lenght of stay on them. They told me not to worry about it because the cost of the syrup for the soda is less then 5 cents, so it's not a major problem if people re-use mugs the way some members here make it out to be. I am guessing some of you may tell me, those CM's told you that answer because they would not want to upset you or anything. Well if that were true, why would they just not come out & say that old mugs can not be brought back? After all that is what everyone else here has said, so why did they just not say the same thing? Also If the CM's don't care, why should anyone else? One CM who reads Disboards, say some members who post here go over board when talking about mug rules. Disclaimer, those were their words & not mine. Anyway if you choose to believe what I said that's fine, if you choose not to agree with me, then that is your right. I am just saying what I was told.
I believe every word you wrote. I'm sure there are CMs who say and believe that. DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. Those CMs are not empowered with decision-making powers. They are not permitted to decide what the rules are. Because some rogue employees are lazy and don't care doesn't make it right.

Rationalizing that it costs very little or that the company is rich does not make stealing less wrong.

Some people care about morals, and some don't.

"Real" morality means doing the right thing whether someone is watching you or not, it means doing the right thing even if you know you'll never in a million years be caught if you do the wrong thing.

THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE OF NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES TO YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT.

I'm sure there are movie theater employees who let a few people into the theater through the back fire exit. There is no actual per-person cost to the theater, so the employee doing so is really allowed to do it, right?

To me, the big deal has nothing to do with Disney and a few pennies' worth of syrup and water. It has everything to do with morality, with doing the right thing. We all know right from wrong, just some of us care and some of us don't.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I believe every word you wrote. I'm sure there are CMs who say and believe that. DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. Those CMs are not empowered with decision-making powers. They are not permitted to decide what the rules are. Because some rogue employees are lazy and don't care doesn't make it right.

Rationalizing that it costs very little or that the company is rich does not make stealing less wrong.

Some people care about morals, and some don't.

"Real" morality means doing the right thing whether someone is watching you or not, it means doing the right thing even if you know you'll never in a million years be caught if you do the wrong thing.

THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE OF NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES TO YOU DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT.

I'm sure there are movie theater employees who let a few people into the theater through the back fire exit. There is no actual per-person cost to the theater, so the employee doing so is really allowed to do it, right?

To me, the big deal has nothing to do with Disney and a few pennies' worth of syrup and water. It has everything to do with morality, with doing the right thing. We all know right from wrong, just some of us care and some of us don't. This is something I asked in mug debates before which no one answered, so I am going to ask it again. If you were at WDW & you knew someone was using an old mug at whatever Resort you were at, would you very nicley mention that to them, or would you mind your own business? If the CM's don't care why should you? Also it's so easy to say what is right & wrong over an Internet message board, but when it comes to this situation & it's not online what would you do?

[CleveRocks]

This is something I asked in mug debates before which no one answered, so I am going to ask it again. If you were at WDW & you knew someone was using an old mug at whatever Resort you were at, would you very nicley mention that to them, or would you mind your own business? If the CM's don't care why should you? Also it's so easy to say what is right & wrong over an Internet message board, but when it comes to this situation & it's not online what would you do?I wouldn't approach someone and tell them I disagree with what they are doing. What they do is really none of my business. This is a message board and I'm stating my opinion. This is a VERY appropriate place for me to share my opinions and thoughts. But even if I disagree with what I actually witness someone else doing in real life, well, I'm not a Disney employee, I'm not the police, and I'm not going to put myself in that position. REPEAT: I see someone at POFQ refilling a CBR mug from 1992, I'm keeping my own stupid thoughts to myself.Also it's so easy to say what is right & wrong over an Internet message board, but when it comes to this situation & it's not online what would you do? I thought that line bore repeating. Like I said, "real" morality means doing the right thing because it's the right thing, not because you're fearful of getting caught. I don't steal. And I certainly don't want to teach my kids that it's okay to steal if I'm stealing only a little bit and it's from a very wealthy corporation that in reality won't be harmed by my actions.

You also said if the CMs don't care then why should I? I care, in my mind, because there are some situations in life where there is right and wrong. This is one of them. It has nothing to do with the fact that some employees don't care about that. Like I said, I'm not in a position to enforce the rules/laws, so I would never place myself in such a position. If there are rules/laws, and the employees fail to enforce those rules/laws or worse yet even encourage them to be broken, that still doesn't make it right.

Do you understand that, in many cases, there is right and wrong? Or is everything to you just a matter of what you think you can get away with? This is an actual question, not a sarcastic response.

[CleveRocks]

CR Resort Fan 4 Life, let me give you an example of real-world morals.

I provided treatment to a teenager in his own home and community. I used a micro-cassette recorder (I don't know if they even exist anymore), a tape recorder with tiny cassettes that could fit in the palm of your hand. My client's father noticed I went through a lot of those tapes. He offered to get some for me (he knew I was just out of grad school and not exactly made of money) and I politely declined.

The follwing week, he gave me two boxes of them. I thanked him very much. Even though I declined his offer, I was flattered that he decided to help me out, and I didn't want to insult him by declining his thoughtful gesture. I offered to pay him for them, more of a gesture at being socially appropriate, as I knew he'd decline and I was going to leave it at that.

However, when he declined my offer for payment, he told me he didn't pay for them, that he took them from the office supply closet of one of the offices that he cleaned at night (he owned his own janitorial business).

I TURNED HIM DOWN. I DIDN'T ACCEPT THE TAPES. Why? I knew he stole them. I wasn't about to knowingly benefit from someone else stealing to get me something. He told me stuff like, "Oh, what's the big deal? It's a rich company and they don't pay me enough anyway. It won't hurt the company and they'll never miss the tapes -- they have several shelving units FULL of those tapes."

There's no way I'd get caught. There's no way he'd get caught. But I couldn't allow myself to benefit from someone else's theft, even if it didn't hurt the company. In this case, there was a definite right and wrong. What he did was wrong. Why should I care? I didn't steal the tapes! I cared because taking the tapes from him would have been wrong.

[Deb & Bill]

CleveRocks, you are my hero. I appreciate what you say.

And CR Resort Fan 4 Life? You've heard the answers. It's still wrong. The CMs don't own the company. Doesn't matter if you get caught or not. You're always preaching not to park in the CR parking lot if you are not a guest there. What's the difference between parking at a resort you are not a guest at and using a resort mug that you bought on a previous trip? They are both wrong.

[annie1995]

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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

This is so funny! It's a mug of soda, there are way worse crimes happening in the world than people re-using mugs :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
:surfweb:
BTW, we do rebuy our mugs everytime we go, cause I love using them everyday at home. Anyhoo, our mug from Port Orleans Riverside states that it is good your length of stay. This length of stay, or the next length of stay? It isn't stay specific. There could be some confusion I guess in some way, if someone wants to be completely technical about the wording. :confused3 All this for a mug :rotfl:

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

1st off all I don't consider it stealing if your using an old mug from the Resort you purchased it at. It's stealing if you bring it to another Resort & fill it up there.

2nd of all when we got our Contemporary mugs there were no signs that said good for lenght of stay on the mugs or by the soda machine, the Cast Memeber said they were good for life & future visits. We were told the same thing when we bought our mugs at the Wilderness Lodge. So because of that, I don't see myself stealing or cheating Disney out of 5 cents worth of syrup & water, when we were told we can use the mugs again & again.

As for parking at the Contemporary & then going to the Magic Kingdom if your not a guest, everyone knows it's wrong & there were signs to prove it. The saying "Good for lenght of stay" in my opinion does not mean can not bring back again, because it's not in the title. To me it means good from the day you check in, to the day you check out. Prehaps WDW should have used Taco Bell's refill slogan & said, refills are only good on this trip only & not on future trips. To me that makes a difference, although I am sure you will disagree with me about that.

[CleveRocks]

The saying "Good for lenght of stay" in my opinion does not mean can not bring back again, because it's not in the title. To me it means good from the day you check in, to the day you check out. Prehaps WDW should have used Taco Bell's refill slogan & said, refills are only good on this trip only & not on future trips. To me that makes a difference, although I am sure you will disagree with me about that.Yes, I disagree. This will be my final comment on this matter. I realize there's no getting through to you, so I guess I'm just talking to everyone else.

Your logic of conveniently using your own home-spun definitions for what is plain-spoken language truly staggers me. I hope you're just playing and you don;t actually think this way. Let me apply your logic and your creative linguistics to a more concrete example closer to you.

Let's say I'm walking through the Eaton Centre and stop in Athlete's World. I see a Leafs cap I like. Big signs at the front of the store and throughout the store say "No stealing our merchandise."

I grab the Leafs cap and stuff it into my jacket and walk out into the mall and eventually out onto Yonge Street, where I put on the cap and keep walking. I know everything's cool because I didn't steal the cap. I'm simply trying it out, I'm giving it a test drive to see if I like it, if it fits well, if it stands up to wind coming off the lake. My intent is not to steal the cap, it's to see if I like it, and they should let me do that because I spend a lot of money at Athlete's World and the C$25 I might have paid for the cap is meaningless to the company, a mere drop in the bucket. Besides, I would diagree with anyone who says I stole the cap. I'm just trying it out. Leave me alone already. I didn't steal it, I swear!

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Yes, I disagree. This will be my final comment on this matter. I realize there's no getting through to you, so I guess I'm just talking to everyone else.

Your logic of conveniently using your own home-spun definitions for what is plain-spoken language truly staggers me. I hope you're just playing and you don;t actually think this way. Let me apply your logic and your creative linguistics to a more concrete example closer to you.

Let's say I'm walking through the Eaton Centre and stop in Athlete's World. I see a Leafs cap I like. Big signs at the front of the store and throughout the store say "No stealing our merchandise."

I grab the Leafs cap and stuff it into my jacket and walk out into the mall and eventually out onto Yonge Street, where I put on the cap and keep walking. I know everything's cool because I didn't steal the cap. I'm simply trying it out, I'm giving it a test drive to see if I like it, if it fits well, if it stands up to wind coming off the lake. My intent is not to steal the cap, it's to see if I like it, and they should let me do that because I spend a lot of money at Athlete's World and the C$25 I might have paid for the cap is meaningless to the company, a mere drop in the bucket. Besides, I would diagree with anyone who says I stole the cap. I'm just trying it out. Leave me alone already. I didn't steal it, I swear! This is going to be my last reply also about the most recent mug debate. 1st when regarding your last reply, I feel I need to :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:, because to me it makes no sense. My family & I already paid for our mugs, so we are not stealing anything. I still say if WDW was truly serious about not letting their guests use old mugs they would have signs that say, old mugs purchased back in whatever date are not allowed to be used. Saying good for length of stay sends mixed signals, because it does not say the mugs can't be used again. The only thing they are clear about is that you are not allowed to use them at other Resorts, because that is cleary stated. In the end my family & I will continue to use our old mugs, because we know we can & we know we are not going to burn in hell for stealing soda. Besides there is a lot more stealing that goes on everyday at WDW with their merchandice, so I think they are more worried about that then people who steal shirts, hats, beanies & etc.

[F4disneyfan]

CR Resort Fan 4 Life, let me give you an example of real-world morals.

I provided treatment to a teenager in his own home and community. I used a micro-cassette recorder (I don't know if they even exist anymore), a tape recorder with tiny cassettes that could fit in the palm of your hand. My client's father noticed I went through a lot of those tapes. He offered to get some for me (he knew I was just out of grad school and not exactly made of money) and I politely declined.

The follwing week, he gave me two boxes of them. I thanked him very much. Even though I declined his offer, I was flattered that he decided to help me out, and I didn't want to insult him by declining his thoughtful gesture. I offered to pay him for them, more of a gesture at being socially appropriate, as I knew he'd decline and I was going to leave it at that.

However, when he declined my offer for payment, he told me he didn't pay for them, that he took them from the office supply closet of one of the offices that he cleaned at night (he owned his own janitorial business).

I TURNED HIM DOWN. I DIDN'T ACCEPT THE TAPES. Why? I knew he stole them. I wasn't about to knowingly benefit from someone else stealing to get me something. He told me stuff like, "Oh, what's the big deal? It's a rich company and they don't pay me enough anyway. It won't hurt the company and they'll never miss the tapes -- they have several shelving units FULL of those tapes."

There's no way I'd get caught. There's no way he'd get caught. But I couldn't allow myself to benefit from someone else's theft, even if it didn't hurt the company. In this case, there was a definite right and wrong. What he did was wrong. Why should I care? I didn't steal the tapes! I cared because taking the tapes from him would have been wrong.

So how do you feel about those using mugs that were purchased before the change and how would you know the difference. I guess some people really do have a holier than thou attitude so do you go to church every Sunday and repent all your sins to. I hope you don't speed or roll through stop signs and make sure you return all the change you get back at the store if they give you to much back even if you don't relize it till you get home..

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

So how do you fel qabout those using mugs that were purchased before the change and how would you know the difference. I guess some eople really do have a holier than thou attitude so do you go to church every Sunday and repent all your sins to. I hope you don't speed or roll through stop signs and make sure you return all the change you get back at the store if they give you to much back even if you don't relize it till you get home.. Very well said. :thumbsup2 Also my family & I are people in the category of purchasing mugs under the good for life slogan & because of people like CleveRocks, we should feel like we are commiting a sin by using an old mug. I can think of a lot worse things I have done in life & using an old mugs comes no where close. It's not even on the list lol.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Some people on another message board told me I should have went down to the Food & Fun Center, one morning because the night before around 12:00 AM I purchased 2 sandwiches & was only charged for 1. I did not notice the mistake until I got back to my room & I thought to myself, Disney charges so much if I got something for free by accident, then who cares. Besides the CM who punched in my order would not have been there & if I told another CM I would like to pay for a sandwich which I had alreay finished the night before, because so & so forgot to charge me for it. They would have thought to themselves he is crazy & said it's no problem & not to worry about only paying for 1 sandwich. So if I had to guess, that could be worse then re-using an old mug, however I don't think it is & it was not my fault the CM made a mistake when putting my order in.

[CleveRocks]

So how do you feel about those using mugs that were purchased before the change and how would you know the difference. I guess some people really do have a holier than thou attitude so do you go to church every Sunday and repent all your sins to.If there's an earlier rule that supercedes the current rule, then that speaks for itself. I'm just saying that each member of society should not feel themselves to be "holier" than the rules.

Whether someone is "illegally" re-using a mug clearly sold as a length-of-stay mug or is using an old one that is grandfathered into "legal" use really is none of my concern, since I'm not going up to people and saying anything.

I'm not about sitting and observing and judging individuals -- I'm talking about IDEAS here. I'm talking about the IDEA of following a rule. As I said in earlier posts, in the real world I'd keep my stupid opinion to myself, I'd NEVER say word one to anyone I thought was inappropriately re-using an old mug, it's not my place to say anything to them. They might be doing something wrong, in my opinion, but it's also my opinion that if I said anything to them then that would make me one rude S.O.B.!

When did it become a bad thing to follow rules, rather than trying to seek out all the angles to get away with things? And why do you think (as evidenced by your church comment) organized religion has a monopoly on moral behavior?

I get such a kick out of people who excuse their bad behavior by saying there is worse behavior out there. Yes, I know that, but we're not on a terrorism board or an insurance fraud board or an assault board, we're on a Disney board. I hope you don't speed or roll through stop signs ... I hope you don't, either. I work with accident victims. I see the horrible results every day. I treasure my life and your life too much to mess around while driving a 3000 pound weapon.

[CleveRocks]

Some people on another message board told me I should have went down to the Food & Fun Center, one morning because the night before around 12:00 AM I purchased 2 sandwiches & was only charged for 1. I did not notice the mistake until I got back to my room & I thought to myself, Disney charges so much if I got something for free by accident, then who cares. Besides the CM who punched in my order would not have been there & if I told another CM I would like to pay for a sandwich which I had alreay finished the night before, because so & so forgot to charge me for it. They would have thought to themselves he is crazy & said it's no problem & not to worry about only paying for 1 sandwich. So if I had to guess, that could be worse then re-using an old mug, however I don't think it is & it was not my fault the CM made a mistake when putting my order in. Maybe I'm a nut, maybe I'm a hypocrite, but I think INTENTIONS play a big role. Obviously, I'm no lawyer, because in a court there's NO WAY to know what someone's intentions were. I'm just talking the IDEA of morality.

In my little mind, I agree with you in this instance. It was an accident, you didn't intend to not pay for it, and the CM didn't intend to cheat his employer. In my little mind, I wouldn't think it would be worth it to go back and try to pay for it. It happened, and if I were in that situation I'd just let it go and drop it. I'd consider it my lucky day and have a clear conscience.

But if I purposely evaded paying for the sandwich and I knew that the rule was that I should pay for it, then I wouldn't have a clear conscience, I'd feel, well ... guilty! The practical result is the same either way -- FREE SANDWICH!!! -- but again, in my little mind, I see a moral difference between an honest mistake and knowing I'm breaking a rule as I'm doing it.

Does this make me a hypocrite? I don't know, but this is the line I draw for myself. I can't draw this line for other people, because I can't know their intentions. But it's how I help guide my own behavior.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Whether someone is "illegally" re-using a mug clearly sold as a length-of-stay mug or is using an old one that is grandfathered into "legal" use really is none of my concern, since I'm not going up to people and saying anything.
It's funny how you talk about people "illegally" re-using old mugs, like it's a crime. News flash WDW won't kick you out or throw you in jail. So it bugs me when people refer to people using old mugs, as a crime which it's not. If you truly don't care what people do, why do you post & say it's wrong? I am sure you have your reasons, however that logic about not carring what they do & saying it's wrong does not make sense. Finally if people like me want to use a mug that we were told we could bring back on a future trip, then I see no problem with it because they said it was ok. I figure you can use the excuse it's printed good for length of stay, well me & other people can use the excuse the mugs were bought during the good for life promotion & we were told it was ok to bring them back.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Maybe I'm a nut, maybe I'm a hypocrite, but I think INTENTIONS play a big role. Obviously, I'm no lawyer, because in a court there's NO WAY to know what someone's intentions were. I'm just talking the IDEA of morality.

In my little mind, I agree with you in this instance. It was an accident, you didn't intend to not pay for it, and the CM didn't intend to cheat his employer. In my little mind, I wouldn't think it would be worth it to go back and try to pay for it. It happened, and if I were in that situation I'd just let it go and drop it. I'd consider it my lucky day and have a clear conscience.

But if I purposely evaded paying for the sandwich and I knew that the rule was that I should pay for it, then I wouldn't have a clear conscience, I'd feel, well ... guilty! The practical result is the same either way -- FREE SANDWICH!!! -- but again, in my little mind, I see a moral difference between an honest mistake and knowing I'm breaking a rule as I'm doing it.

Does this make me a hypocrite? I don't know, but this is the line I draw for myself. I can't draw this line for other people, because I can't know their intentions. But it's how I help guide my own behavior. Your turning my words all around. I never sad I tried hide the 2nd sandwich to avioid paying for it. I said it was an honest mistake on the CM's part & maybe my part because I had the 2nd one undereath the 1st one. However I assumed the CM would have seen the 2 containers stack up, but he did not. So I had intended to pay for 2 & I only happened to pay for 1. So to me there is no moral difference, because I explained the whole story & you tried to turn it into a moral difference.

[CleveRocks]

Your turning my words all around. I never sad I tried hide the 2nd sandwich to avioid paying for it. I said it was an honest mistake on the CM's part & maybe my part because I had the 2nd one undereath the 1st one. However I assumed the CM would have seen the 2 containers stack up, but he did not. So I had intended to pay for 2 & I only happened to pay for 1. So to me there is no moral difference, because I explained the whole story & you tried to turn it into a moral difference.I think I have it all figured out -- you just don't read well!!! Re-read my post and tell me where I twisted your words and said I thought you tried to hide a sandwich? I was giving examples of what DIDN'T happen!!!

What part of "I AGREE WITH YOU" did you not understand??? Geez, I bent over backwards saying that I believe intentions to be important, and that since it was an accident I agreed with you. Please read more carefully!!!

[CleveRocks]

Your turning my words all around. I never sad I tried hide the 2nd sandwich to avioid paying for it. I said it was an honest mistake on the CM's part & maybe my part because I had the 2nd one undereath the 1st one. However I assumed the CM would have seen the 2 containers stack up, but he did not. So I had intended to pay for 2 & I only happened to pay for 1. So to me there is no moral difference, because I explained the whole story & you tried to turn it into a moral difference.
In my little mind, I agree with you in this instance. It was an accident, you didn't intend to not pay for it, and the CM didn't intend to cheat his employer. In my little mind, I wouldn't think it would be worth it to go back and try to pay for it. It happened, and if I were in that situation I'd just let it go and drop it. I'd consider it my lucky day and have a clear conscience. Right there in black and white. I wrote "It was an accident, you didn't intend to not pay for it ...." Talk about twisting words ... you twisted mine!

Now I get it why you have such difficulty understanding what "length of stay" means, if you don't know what "I agree with you" means ....

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Right there in black and white. I wrote "It was an accident, you didn't intend to not pay for it ...." Talk about twisting words ... you twisted mine!

Now I get it why you have such difficulty understanding what "length of stay" means, if you don't know what "I agree with you" means .... Ok me saying you were twisting my words around, was the wrong words to use so I am sorry about that. What I meant was, I never mentioned anything about it being a moral difference, because I knew I did nothing wrong.

I am going to say again in my own personal view, the term length of stay means from the day you check in, until the day you check out. I say that because it does not say can not bring back these mugs on a future vacation. Besides if people did bring them back, which I am sure they do. How can you or any of the other "mug police" tell the difference if the designs have not changed? If your answer is going to be, your consicience can't you come up with something different for once. So your not going to change my view about what the term means.

Also because you did not answer something I said to you before, you claim you don't care if people bring back their old mugs, but yet you post saying how they are illegally using them. So to me your being a hypocrite when having 1 opinion, but giving another one. Sounds a lot like John Kerry flip flopping on what he believed in during the 2004 Presidental election.

[CleveRocks]

This is fruitless. I'm done. :)

[jahow7]

This is fruitless. I'm done. :)

Thank goodness you are done!!
I am amazed at how upset people get over this whole mug issue.
If Disney doesn't care, then why should you?
If you want to buy a new mug every time you visit WDW go ahead, just stop telling people what you think is right with respect to rules, morality, and "stealing".

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Thank goodness you are done!!
I am amazed at how upset people get over this whole mug issue.
If Disney doesn't care, then why should you?
If you want to buy a new mug every time you visit WDW go ahead, just stop telling people what you think is right with respect to rules, morality, and "stealing". I agree 100%. There are a lot worse things in life to worry about. If you want to complain about something that has to do with WDW, then how them always raising the price of admission on Park Hopper tickets & raising the rates at their Resorts.

[CleveRocks]

Thank goodness you are done!!
I am amazed at how upset people get over this whole mug issue.
If Disney doesn't care, then why should you?
If you want to buy a new mug every time you visit WDW go ahead, just stop telling people what you think is right with respect to rules, morality, and "stealing".
If you think I should stop sharing my opinion, then why do you think you should share yours???

Message boards are a GREAT place to share opinions. At least that's my opinion ....

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

If you think I should stop sharing my opinion, then why do you think you should share yours???

Message boards are a GREAT place to share opinions. At least that's my opinion .... I think what jahow7 is trying to say is in your previous replies you said you don't care what people do, however you keep posting that using old mugs is illegal & morarly wrong. So either you want to keep cramming your opinions down our throats, or you don't care what people do. So I say make a decision & stick with it.

[CleveRocks]

I think what jahow7 is trying to say is in your previous replies you said you don't care what people do, however you keep posting that using old mugs is illegal & morarly wrong. So either you want to keep cramming your opinions down our throats, or you don't care what people do. So I say make a decision & stick with it.I wrote and meant that I would never actually say anything to anyone in the real world about it, because that would be rude, but here on a message board is a socially appropriate place to discuss opinions. Can you understand the difference.

I also suspect that you might change your mind about right and wrong once Mommy and Daddy stop paying the bills and making decisions for you, and you have to function on your own.

Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur and Ramadan are upon us. Peace be unto you.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I wrote and meant that I would never actually say anything to anyone in the real world about it, because that would be rude, but here on a message board is a socially appropriate place to discuss opinions. Can you understand the difference.

I also suspect that you might change your mind about right and wrong once Mommy and Daddy stop paying the bills and making decisions for you, and you have to function on your own.

Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur and Ramadan are upon us. Peace be unto you. I agree with your statement that it would be wrong to say that to a person, your using an old mug is illegal & morarly wrong. I just don't agree with the fact that you want to keep telling people it's wrong over the Internet, so don't tell me again I missed the point of what you were saying.

Also & not that's any of your business I make my own decisions in life & if my parents wanted to help me out, I don't see anything wrong with that. So don't preach your moral views about that on me.

[Deb & Bill]

Mugs have been sold for length of stay since at least 1997 when I bought my first mugs. Signs were posted at the mug station where you purchased the mug. Now, because so many people don't get that, they have started posting the length of stay info right on the mug. Now, if Disney didn't care, why would they post this info on the mug? When another DIS member wrote a letter to Disney about the mugs, they stated that their current policy was that ALL mugs are only good for the length of stay. That included old mugs. I have been purchasing mugs since 1997 and never saw any that were good forever.

Some of us on the DIS (and I think CleveRocks might also fit in here) choose to let newer members know about Disney rules. And try to refute the ones that others tell their exceptions to. Exceptions to these rules. They are exceptions and they sometime happen.

Theft is theft, whether you steal soda from Disney or whether you rob a bank. What is so difficult to understand?????

[jahow7]

I wrote and meant that I would never actually say anything to anyone in the real world about it, because that would be rude, but here on a message board is a socially appropriate place to discuss opinions. Can you understand the difference.

I also suspect that you might change your mind about right and wrong once Mommy and Daddy stop paying the bills and making decisions for you, and you have to function on your own.

Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur and Ramadan are upon us. Peace be unto you.
For someone who is in favour of people expressing their own opinions you sure can be rude and sarcastic on these boards.
How do you know who pays for anyones expenses or is involved in decision making, and even if you did it should be of no concern to you.
What you consider right from wrong is your own opinion and nobody elses.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Mugs have been sold for length of stay since at least 1997 when I bought my first mugs. Signs were posted at the mug station where you purchased the mug. Now, because so many people don't get that, they have started posting the length of stay info right on the mug. Now, if Disney didn't care, why would they post this info on the mug? When another DIS member wrote a letter to Disney about the mugs, they stated that their current policy was that ALL mugs are only good for the length of stay. That included old mugs. I have been purchasing mugs since 1997 and never saw any that were good forever.

Some of us on the DIS (and I think CleveRocks might also fit in here) choose to let newer members know about Disney rules. And try to refute the ones that others tell their exceptions to. Exceptions to these rules. They are exceptions and they sometime happen.

Theft is theft, whether you steal soda from Disney or whether you rob a bank. What is so difficult to understand????? My family & I purchased Wilderness Lodge mugs in 1998 & our Contemporary mugs in 2000. There were no signs at Roaring Forks, or Food & Fun Center, saying what you described. Instead both times were told by Cast Members the mugs were good for life & future visits & we saw signs saying that they were.

I still can't believe some people claim using an old mug is theft, when it's not. I just laugh when I read comments like that. Anyway you can believe what you want, but I am going to believe what I was told by Cast Members, claimimg we could bring these mugs back for future visits. Besides if WDW was to conserned with people stealing soda, they would have different was of preventing it. To print it on a mug saying good for length of stay is a joke. Finally a lot more stealing goes on at the World Of Disney & other stores in WDW. So I think that is more important people filling up less then 5 cents worth of soda.

[Deb & Bill]

...I still can't believe some people claim using an old mug is theft, when it's not. I... Besides if WDW was to conserned with people stealing soda, they would have different was of preventing it. To print it on a mug saying good for length of stay is a joke. Finally a lot more stealing goes on at the World Of Disney & other stores in WDW. So I think that is more important people filling up less then 5 cents worth of soda.

And, therein lies the problem. You and others don't agree with what is theft and what is not theft. To some of us, taking something without paying that Disney has said must be purchased is theft. Their letter to the other DIS member acknowledged that. You and other fail to see the costs involved with these petty thefts. Mug prices have been raised several times since I bought my first mugs. They now write on the mug that it is good for the lenght of stay only. Do you really think the $8.99 back in 1998 entitles you to free soda for the rest of your life? Do you plan to give your Contemporary and Wilderness Lodge mugs to your children in your Last Will and Testament so they can continue to get free soda for the rest of their lives?

Theft is still theft. Whether it is a $60 sweatshirt, a $2.50 cup of soda, a $10 parking space or a $350,000 yacht.

[jahow7]

And, therein lies the problem. You and others don't agree with what is theft and what is not theft. To some of us, taking something without paying that Disney has said must be purchased is theft. Their letter to the other DIS member acknowledged that. You and other fail to see the costs involved with these petty thefts. Mug prices have been raised several times since I bought my first mugs. They now write on the mug that it is good for the lenght of stay only. Do you really think the $8.99 back in 1998 entitles you to free soda for the rest of your life? Do you plan to give your Contemporary and Wilderness Lodge mugs to your children in your Last Will and Testament so they can continue to get free soda for the rest of their lives?

Theft is still theft. Whether it is a $60 sweatshirt, a $2.50 cup of soda, a $10 parking space or a $350,000 yacht.
Yes, there is a difference between soda with a few cents and a $ 350,000 yacht. If murder is murder, then why does the law make a distinction between first, second and third degree. In any case no one here is ever going to agree on the whole refillable mug question, so why not just take a valium, relax, and get on with life. If you think it is stealing then go ahead and believe so, just don't accuse anyone else of theft.
By the way the next time you park in a no parking zone and don't get a ticket remember to be a good citizen and pay the fine anyways; you don't want to be accused of depriving your local municipality of revenue, agreed?

[CleveRocks]

So how much is okay to steal, in your opinion? You say it's okay to steal 5 cents' worth of merchandise, but not okay to steal $350,000 worth of merchandise. Where do YOU draw the line in jahow7-land? Please be specific.

THANKS!

[I almost did it, a whole post without sarcasm or my stupid opinion! WOW! :thumbsup2 ]

[jahow7]

So how much is okay to steal, in your opinion? You say it's okay to steal 5 cents' worth of merchandise, but not okay to steal $350,000 worth of merchandise. Where do YOU draw the line in jahow7-land? Please be specific.

THANKS!

[I almost did it, a whole post without sarcasm or my stupid opinion! WOW! :thumbsup2 ]
I think you spend too much time on rock 'n' roller coaster, as it has clearly affected things in cleverocks land.
I never said it was ok to steal anything, just stop telling people they are stealing something when in fact they aren't, in spite of your interpretation of the " rules ". To equate the refillable mug issue with stealing $ 350,000 of merchandise is just ridiculous.

[dd316]

To anyone arguing the point, do you save cups from, say, McDonald's and bring them back and reuse them every time you go back? If you dine in, it's still free refills, right? :rolleyes2

As much as I'd like to re-use my mugs from 1997, I'm not going to when I go back in a couple weeks. I'd feel awkward using them, like I'm getting away with something. I'm there to have a good time, not to have my conscience pestering me over $12.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I have said this before & I will say it again. Cast Members at the Food & Fun Center have seen me use my old silver mug, have they said anything to me about it? NO, they have not. If you go by what Deb & Bill & CleveRocks thinks, shouldn't these Cast Members have said something? I know your going to tell me they would not to upset me since I am a guest. Well then you have no arguemnt, because you all claim that Cast Members have said the rules is mugs are good for length of stay, but if the Cast Members don't inforce the rule, what's the point of their being a rule?

To dd316 saying you would feel awkward taking back an old mug, if that's how you feel fine because you stated it. Just remember Disney will not kick you our or yell at you for using an old mug. Because like I stated before, they have had chance after chance to tell me my mug is no longer good, well then if they follow this rule why did they not say anything?

[annie1995]

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[F4disneyfan]

If there's an earlier rule that supercedes the current rule, then that speaks for itself. I'm just saying that each member of society should not feel themselves to be "holier" than the rules.

Whether someone is "illegally" re-using a mug clearly sold as a length-of-stay mug or is using an old one that is grandfathered into "legal" use really is none of my concern, since I'm not going up to people and saying anything.

I'm not about sitting and observing and judging individuals -- I'm talking about IDEAS here. I'm talking about the IDEA of following a rule. As I said in earlier posts, in the real world I'd keep my stupid opinion to myself, I'd NEVER say word one to anyone I thought was inappropriately re-using an old mug, it's not my place to say anything to them. They might be doing something wrong, in my opinion, but it's also my opinion that if I said anything to them then that would make me one rude S.O.B.!

When did it become a bad thing to follow rules, rather than trying to seek out all the angles to get away with things? And why do you think (as evidenced by your church comment) organized religion has a monopoly on moral behavior?

I get such a kick out of people who excuse their bad behavior by saying there is worse behavior out there. Yes, I know that, but we're not on a terrorism board or an insurance fraud board or an assault board, we're on a Disney board. I hope you don't, either. I work with accident victims. I see the horrible results every day. I treasure my life and your life too much to mess around while driving a 3000 pound weapon.

Nope I actually try to follow the rules of the road for the most part my kids mean to much to me to be an idiot behind the wheel of my car wether it is just myself in it or the whole family. As for teh church comment I find it generally the bible thumpers that have these types of issues over a re useable mug and other such things. See religion doesn't even enter our house and our kids will never step foot into a church other than to go to a wedding it is all a crock It was EVOLUTION FOLKS not anything else.

[Deb & Bill]

...By the way the next time you park in a no parking zone and don't get a ticket remember to be a good citizen and pay the fine anyways; you don't want to be accused of depriving your local municipality of revenue, agreed?

Why would you even think I would park in a no parking zone? I don't and I don't plan on doing it. Do you?

So how much is okay to steal, in your opinion? You say it's okay to steal 5 cents' worth of merchandise, but not okay to steal $350,000 worth of merchandise. Where do YOU draw the line in jahow7-land? Please be specific.

So, jahow7? Where do you draw the line?????? It is okay to steal the t-shirt at $15, but not the sweatshirt at $60? Where is the line????

Same question, CR Resort Fan 4 Life.

[Debi]

Hi everyone,

Disney's official policy is that the mug is valid for the length of your stay only. Whether you choose to obey this policy or not is your choice, but this is Disney's official policy. If caught, Disney could ask you to pay for your drink or ask you to purchase another mug.

Because this thread is no loger informational (it has turned in to arguing and debating), I am closing it.