Most Beautiful Theme Park?

[Slothman23]

I was in Busch Gardens Europe this past weekend and they advertise that it has been voted "Most Beautiful Theme Park" 15 years a row! Anyone know who votes on this or how this is decided? It also said that it was voted "Best Theme Park" four years running...thought that was a little crazy. Really nice park, great rides and beautiful grounds, but is it that much nicer than Animal Kingdom? As far as best theme park, you have to go with MK or Disneyland park...just wanted to know what you guys thought...thanks.

[ChrisFL]

BGE has a lot of natural landscape that's been unchanged for a long time, and I think it is quite a beautiful park. I guess it depends on what you deem to be beautiful.

[All Aboard]

BGE is the most beautiful theme park I've seen, IMO.

They did a fantastic job preserving the landscape, as shown here with the way they built Big Bad Wolf into the forest:

http://www.wunderland.com/EBooks/Coasters/Coasterpics/BigBadWolf-BGardensW.gif

[DisneyGirl4188]

I don't think that it is the most beautiful. I think it is better than others, but not better than some of the Disney parks.

[larry_poppins]

My vote goes to Tokyo DisneySea. Nothing else like it on Earth!
Next trip 2008 for Tokyo's 25th anniversary. :cheer2:

[Condorman]

I second that vote for Tokyo DisneySea. It is second-to-none.

[Dsnyfam]

We visited this park twice, but not for about 8 years now. It was beautiful, and is more of a "coaster" park IMHO. It has beautiful landscaping, very tropical and lush. The family loved the horses (budweiser ones), and everyone had a great time. It was storming the last time we were there, and they close all the rides if lightning is even close to the area. I guess they have problems with all the coasters attracting strikes? :confused3 We especially enjoyed the bumper cars and other silly kids rides, etc. It is a great park. Is the other park (some other "gardens" park) still open? It was one where they used to "water ski" and do a lot of tricks like stacking people atop one another on skis, etc.? Does anyone recall this park? We went once a long, long time ago. It was really nice, with girls dressed in southern gowns, and everything. :confused3 I hate it when my memory goes!

[ChrisFL]

We visited this park twice, but not for about 8 years now. It was beautiful, and is more of a "coaster" park IMHO. It has beautiful landscaping, very tropical and lush. The family loved the horses (budweiser ones), and everyone had a great time. It was storming the last time we were there, and they close all the rides if lightning is even close to the area. I guess they have problems with all the coasters attracting strikes? :confused3 We especially enjoyed the bumper cars and other silly kids rides, etc. It is a great park. Is the other park (some other "gardens" park) still open? It was one where they used to "water ski" and do a lot of tricks like stacking people atop one another on skis, etc.? Does anyone recall this park? We went once a long, long time ago. It was really nice, with girls dressed in southern gowns, and everything. :confused3 I hate it when my memory goes!

Any time or place there are thunderstorms, coasters will be shut down...even rain sometimes since rain at 60mph hurts like a.... (I know, I've experienced it)

The park you're thinking of is Cypress Gardens, Busch sold it back to the original owners several years ago, it closed, then was bought by another company and re-opened with more amusement park rides, small coasters and kiddie rides.

[LOLA2]

I would love to go to Disneysea but scared about language barrier. Do they spaek English at all over there, like in the hotels on site and taxis and such?
What is the cost compared to here? More or less expensive.

I did see pictures and it looks quite beautiful.

[Condorman]

LOLA2...

When it comes to Disney, there is no language barrier. They own the concept but it is a mostly privately funded endeavor. Everything in Tokyo is labeled in both Japanese and English. It's really amazing how easy it is to get around and communicate. And when it comes to the Disney parks, it's almost as if they are slighting the Japanese just to cater to the English-speaking visitors. Every sign, every menu and every employee in the parks speak both languages. As far as expense, it is costly. Not as much as it was in the late 80's or early 90's when the Japanese were buying everything up and owning everything else. It's much more reasonable now. But if you ever get the chance to go, you will not regret it.

[mattsdragon]

I'm a huge WDW fan, but having grown up in VA, and having lived 15 minutes from the gates of BG for a while(I remember it being called "The Old Country"), I have to admit, it is the most beautiful park. I grew up with that and King's Dominion, and there was no comparison.

I just wish they never closed DrachenFire. . .great ride.

[NeverEnufWDW]

Been to WDW many times and BGE several times.

I have to say that BGE has the most pleasing setting. Lots of trees and foliage, water features, etc. It is put together really well.

[ChrisFL]

I would love to go to Disneysea but scared about language barrier. Do they spaek English at all over there, like in the hotels on site and taxis and such?
What is the cost compared to here? More or less expensive.

I did see pictures and it looks quite beautiful.

I have a DVD of ***************.com's 2004 trip to Japan where they went to about 15-20 parks, and many of them had english signs but I dont know about the employees.

I do know there's a lot of english being taught in Japanese schools, as they often hire Americans to go to Japan for several months to teach the english language (the JET program)

[Dsnyfam]

Any time or place there are thunderstorms, coasters will be shut down...even rain sometimes since rain at 60mph hurts like a.... (I know, I've experienced it)

The park you're thinking of is Cypress Gardens, Busch sold it back to the original owners several years ago, it closed, then was bought by another company and re-opened with more amusement park rides, small coasters and kiddie rides.Yes Chris, that was the name of that park! So, the old Cypress Gardens is now reopened? Does it still have all the gardens, the girls dressed in long flowing southern-style gowns, and the water-ski show (which was incredible with towers of people skiing fast around the lake)? Do you have a link, or any information about the new place (such as a name, prices, etc)? I do not recall where it's located in Florida either (it's been ages since I visited with my own parents and siblings). Is there a hotel you could recommend to stay in while visiting this part of Florida? We would consider a couple days away from WDW to visit these places, if they are all close to one another with a decent family type of hotel nearby. Also, when is the least "rainy" season in Florida? Thank you for any help.

Condorman--I have the same fears about the park in Paris as LOLA2 does about DisneySea! I have often wondered if they all speak english well enough to understand them without any problems or stress. :confused3 The park in Japan looks amazing--even prettier than the one in Paris. It is obvious you have been there (lucky!). Can you please offer a relative rounded-out "cost" for such a trip? I would love to go too. How long was your flight, and which airline do you suggest using? Thanks for any help.

[ChrisFL]

Yes Chris, that was the name of that park! So, the old Cypress Gardens is now reopened? Does it still have all the gardens, the girls dressed in long flowing southern-style gowns, and the water-ski show (which was incredible with towers of people skiing fast around the lake)? Do you have a link, or any information about the new place (such as a name, prices, etc)? I do not recall where it's located in Florida either (it's been ages since I visited with my own parents and siblings). Is there a hotel you could recommend to stay in while visiting this part of Florida? We would consider a couple days away from WDW to visit these places, if they are all close to one another with a decent family type of hotel nearby. Also, when is the least "rainy" season in Florida? Thank you for any help.

Condorman--I have the same fears about the park in Paris as LOLA2 does about DisneySea! I have often wondered if they all speak english well enough to understand them without any problems or stress. :confused3 The park in Japan looks amazing--even prettier than the one in Paris. It is obvious you have been there (lucky!). Can you please offer a relative rounded-out "cost" for such a trip? I would love to go too. How long was your flight, and which airline do you suggest using? Thanks for any help.

Well it's still called Cypress Gardens and at the moment it's still open, but FYI they just declared bankruptcy last week, something about never getting insurance money from the 3 hurricanes that hit in 2004.

http://www.cypressgardens.com

[BirdsOfPreyDave]

Here are the awards the OP is refering to. Information about the "Most Beautiful Park" award can be found at www.NAPHA.org (http://www.napha.org).

Busch Gardens Williamsburg has been voted the world's "Most Beautiful Theme Park" for sixteen consecutive years by the National Amusement Park Historical Association (NAPHA) and named the world's "Favorite Theme Park" for the fourth year in a row.

Additionally, Busch Gardens has ranked highly in Amusement Today's international "Golden Ticket Awards" survey in the categories of "Best Food," "Best Shows" and "Cleanest Park." The European-themed park took the top honors for "Best Landscaping" again this year, as well as winning the new category of "Most Beautiful Park."

Busch Gardens was also named the “World’s Best Theme Park” in the 2006 Theme Park Insider Awards. The win is a first for Busch Gardens, though the park's “Curse of DarKastle” ride won Theme Park Insider's “World’s Best Theme Park Attraction” award in 2005. The Theme Park Insider Awards are given each year based on votes casted on their website. Only the site's 12,000 registered members -- theme park fans from all 50 U.S. States and 80 countries -- are eligible to cast ballots.

In 2003, Busch Gardens received the prestigious Applause Award from the International Association of Amusement Parks & Attractions (IAAPA) and Amusement Business Magazine. The Applause Award is given in honor of a park's "management, operations and creative accomplishments that have inspired the industry with foresight, originality and sound business development."

[Dsnyfam]

Well it's still called Cypress Gardens and at the moment it's still open, but FYI they just declared bankruptcy last week, something about never getting insurance money from the 3 hurricanes that hit in 2004.

http://www.cypressgardens.comThanks for the info and link. How sad. We were planning a visit in the spring/early summer. Now, it may be closed by the time we visit. I recall hearing rumors that Disney was thinking of obtaining this park, was there any truth to this one? :confused3

Dave--thanks for the awards information. I had no idea BG won so much "beautiful theme park" acclaim. I always presumed WDW built AK park to compete directly with BG in Tampa. :confused3

[ChrisFL]

Thanks for the info and link. How sad. We were planning a visit in the spring/early summer. Now, it may be closed by the time we visit. I recall hearing rumors that Disney was thinking of obtaining this park, was there any truth to this one? :confused3

Dave--thanks for the awards information. I had no idea BG won so much "beautiful theme park" acclaim. I always presumed WDW built AK park to compete directly with BG in Tampa. :confused3

I dont think Disney was going to buy Cypress Gardens itself...but back in the day, HBJ owned Boardwalk & Baseball, Sea World and Cypress Gardens, and they sold them, at the time both Busch and Disney put in bids AFAIK and Busch eventually won. That was almost 20 years ago.

I dont know if AK was built to compete with BG in Tampa (if it was they need more rollercoasters at AK!!) but Williamsburg is a totally different park and much more beautiful landscape wise. I love BG Tampa also, go there constantly but Williamsburg is European themed where BG Tampa is African themed. And Williamsburg doesnt have a zoo portion.

[Dsnyfam]

I dont think Disney was going to buy Cypress Gardens itself...but back in the day, HBJ owned Boardwalk & Baseball, Sea World and Cypress Gardens, and they sold them, at the time both Busch and Disney put in bids AFAIK and Busch eventually won. That was almost 20 years ago.

I dont know if AK was built to compete with BG in Tampa (if it was they need more rollercoasters at AK!!) but Williamsburg is a totally different park and much more beautiful landscape wise. I love BG Tampa also, go there constantly but Williamsburg is European themed where BG Tampa is African themed. And Williamsburg doesnt have a zoo portion.

Hi Chris, You certainly are a walking book on this stuff! :thumbsup2 Who is HBJ? I know it's not Walt, but believe it has something to do with "Busch" (the B in there). What is "Boardwalk and baseball?" It sounds like fun! Is this park still operating in Florida? How far is the Williamsburg park from Orlando? We rent a car while in WDW, and could drive there if it is not too far. We have often heard of this park, and how amazing it is. Thank you for describing the differences between the two (as we always thought they were exactly the same parks!). I'm sure most people believe this---which is why they only visit the one in Tampa while in Florida. I also had no idea one of them has no zoo. :confused3

We have never visited GATORLAND, but have driven past it many times. Is it worth visiting? As a Floridian, and someone who obviously knows the area--can you recommend any other hidden parks or treasures we should not miss on our next visit to your state? We have heard about "fresh water springs" where manatees live, and the everglades too. Yet, we have no idea how/where to go to begin these trips from Orlando.

I only heard a few rumors during the building of AK about Disney competing with Busch Gardens over that park. I know Busch Gardens is viewed as a serious "coaster" park over Disney's Animal Kingdom (more of a preservation park). It's almost like the six flags parks. We have visited Sea World, which seems more on the lines of AK than Busch Gardens. There are not a lot of rides, and there are more animals and shows than Busch Gardens (or it seems so).

Which beach do you recommend to visit? We have no idea, and want to visit a clean, white sand, not-too-crowded beach on one of the coasts. People at the hotels have urged us for years, as many have gone while visiting--and returned to tell us about it. I guess the drive is not far from WDW (to either coast), and worth the trip. I just prefer getting the inside from someone who lives there, and knows the area. Thanks for the help. :thumbsup2

[ChrisFL]

Hi Chris, You certainly are a walking book on this stuff! :thumbsup2 Who is HBJ? I know it's not Walt, but believe it has something to do with "Busch" (the B in there). What is "Boardwalk and baseball?" It sounds like fun! Is this park still operating in Florida? How far is the Williamsburg park from Orlando? We rent a car while in WDW, and could drive there if it is not too far. We have often heard of this park, and how amazing it is. Thank you for describing the differences between the two (as we always thought they were exactly the same parks!). I'm sure most people believe this---which is why they only visit the one in Tampa while in Florida. I also had no idea one of them has no zoo. :confused3

We have never visited GATORLAND, but have driven past it many times. Is it worth visiting? As a Floridian, and someone who obviously knows the area--can you recommend any other hidden parks or treasures we should not miss on our next visit to your state? We have heard about "fresh water springs" where manatees live, and the everglades too. Yet, we have no idea how/where to go to begin these trips from Orlando.

I only heard a few rumors during the building of AK about Disney competing with Busch Gardens over that park. I know Busch Gardens is viewed as a serious "coaster" park over Disney's Animal Kingdom (more of a preservation park). It's almost like the six flags parks. We have visited Sea World, which seems more on the lines of AK than Busch Gardens. There are not a lot of rides, and there are more animals and shows than Busch Gardens (or it seems so).

Which beach do you recommend to visit? We have no idea, and want to visit a clean, white sand, not-too-crowded beach on one of the coasts. People at the hotels have urged us for years, as many have gone while visiting--and returned to tell us about it. I guess the drive is not far from WDW (to either coast), and worth the trip. I just prefer getting the inside from someone who lives there, and knows the area. Thanks for the help. :thumbsup2


Living around Orlando theme parks all my life has its perks. Actually HBJ is a book publishing company and is now going by a different name. It was Harcourt Brace Jovanovich or something. How a publishing company owned the parks I have no idea. Busch was not related to HBJ they just bought the parks from them.

Boardwalk and Baseball was a nice park between Orlando and Lakeland near Haines City, it was called Circus World back in the early 80's, then it was changed to Boardwalk and Baseball, and they started to have spring training games with the KC Royals. The park was quite nice, but it wasn't anything really unique, well done boardwalk style with carnival rides and some slides and a big wooden coaster called the Hurricane. I was pretty young when it closed (about 10 or so) so I dont remember too much. the entire area is just a mound of dirt, but the hotels and restaurants are still there.

Williamsburg is in Virginia, quite a drive from Orlando ;) You'll probably want to visit buschgardens.com for more info on the differences.

Honestly I've never visited Gatorland either, but I guess being a near native, Gators arent that rare and I've seen enough around anyway.

As for other hidden parks, there's not many anymore, although a quite small place I enjoy visiting is Old Town in Kissimmee, they started as just some shops but now they have a lot of rides and carnival style games, plus every Saturday night they have a classic car show.

Cocoa Beach and Daytona are nice in the off-season, as long as you're not at Daytona during bike week, Biketoberfest or Spring Break it really isn't that bad from what I've seen and heard. Both are less than 1 hour from Orlando. Those are both on the east coast. I live right near Clearwater beach but it does get pretty crowded a lot and traffic can be really tricky. It's much more of a drive too, probably 2.5 hours.

[dwaters]

I'm confused.
Where is Busch Gardens Europe? Never heard of it.
Is it in Europe or a part of the Williamsburg, VA park?

[ChrisFL]

I'm confused.
Where is Busch Gardens Europe? Never heard of it.
Is it in Europe or a part of the Williamsburg, VA park?

It's a stupid (IMO) advertising campaign this year. Busch Gardens Europe is Williamsburg and Busch Gardens Africa is Tampa

I think next year they're going back to their "normal" names

[Dsnyfam]

Living around Orlando theme parks all my life has its perks. Actually HBJ is a book publishing company and is now going by a different name. It was Harcourt Brace Jovanovich or something. How a publishing company owned the parks I have no idea. Busch was not related to HBJ they just bought the parks from them.

Boardwalk and Baseball was a nice park between Orlando and Lakeland near Haines City, it was called Circus World back in the early 80's, then it was changed to Boardwalk and Baseball, and they started to have spring training games with the KC Royals. The park was quite nice, but it wasn't anything really unique, well done boardwalk style with carnival rides and some slides and a big wooden coaster called the Hurricane. I was pretty young when it closed (about 10 or so) so I dont remember too much. the entire area is just a mound of dirt, but the hotels and restaurants are still there.

Williamsburg is in Virginia, quite a drive from Orlando ;) You'll probably want to visit buschgardens.com for more info on the differences.

Honestly I've never visited Gatorland either, but I guess being a near native, Gators arent that rare and I've seen enough around anyway.

As for other hidden parks, there's not many anymore, although a quite small place I enjoy visiting is Old Town in Kissimmee, they started as just some shops but now they have a lot of rides and carnival style games, plus every Saturday night they have a classic car show.

Cocoa Beach and Daytona are nice in the off-season, as long as you're not at Daytona during bike week, Biketoberfest or Spring Break it really isn't that bad from what I've seen and heard. Both are less than 1 hour from Orlando. Those are both on the east coast. I live right near Clearwater beach but it does get pretty crowded a lot and traffic can be really tricky. It's much more of a drive too, probably 2.5 hours.Thanks for all the added information! You certainly do know a lot about the area and history. We would not be up for driving all the way north to VA, but will visit BG again!

Now, as for small parks. We saw something on the travel channel about a Chinese garden (maybe it was Japanese) somewhere in Orlando. Also, there is a miniature land somewhere there too--where there are Holy lands, etc. Are you familiar with any of this? Is there a ZOO in Orlando? I know there is an old-town in Orlando, with a Rosie O'grady's bar, and other attractions (where some friends have gone and enjoyed the nightlife). Yet, with children--etc., we prefer to hit DTD and the Westside for fun while in WDW. It's easier, closer and safer (IMHO).

I've heard about Spring Break and Bike-week in Daytona, and would never make that mistake. We accidentally crossed through Sturgis during a bike festival years ago--and it was a nightmare! LOL. No way. It's definitely NOT for kids either. :sad2:

I visited a place in Florida many, many years ago when I visited with my parents and siblings. It was called Juniper Springs. We spent the day snorkeling and swimming. A park guide informed us to use "great care" at dusk, as water moccasins also use the springs and swim across in the early evening. Their bite can be lethal! Ouch! I must say the springs were incredible--and the water was cool and crystal clear. Are these springs still around and open to the public? Is there one which is close to Orlando, which you might recommend taking the family to enjoy?

We love doing other things while visiting WDW, and often leave the grounds using the rental car to explore the city. We've seen the duck march at the Peabody (this was featured on the travel channel too--and is free to the public!), International drive and the Florida Millennium Mall, Sea World, Universal and IOA, Citywalk, and a few other attractions like Medieval Times dinner show and the Giant trucks, etc. There is always something going on in that City.

We would "love and appreciate" any other recommendations a true native may be able to offer. Are there any things in this city, or even the state we should NOT miss? I would be happy to look at websites or links you may have, and make an official list to bring with us on your behalf. So many people go to Orlando and never leave WDW property. This is how we used to visit. Now, we venture more and more into the City and surrounding area. Which BEACH do you say is the BEST one? We have heard about Clearwater, and another beach down by BG on the ocean (where people go to collect shells every morning). We would love to visit a clear & clean beach and enjoy a day in the sun and sand. We are not keen on jellyfish and sharks, so preferably one with low numbers of these types of marine life.

What is the big attraction to Sarasota Springs? Where did Ponce De Leon find the fountain of youth? How about the oldest City in Florida (St. Augustine?), and are there any special places to visit in this city which describe the history, etc?

We've thought about the everglades, but am afraid of the airboats and the gators. Have you ever visited this part of Florida, and would you recommend it to others?

Also, are there any stores or restaurants which we may enjoy visiting? I really appreciate your kind approach, and willingness to help out-of-staters! Some Floridians are not so happy with tourists, and definitely not as nice as you when it comes to helping them with loads of questions. You are great, and I am pleased to learn anything new!! :yay: :thumbsup2

[ChrisFL]

Thanks for all the added information! You certainly do know a lot about the area and history. We would not be up for driving all the way north to VA, but will visit BG again!

Now, as for small parks. We saw something on the travel channel about a Chinese garden (maybe it was Japanese) somewhere in Orlando. Also, there is a miniature land somewhere there too--where there are Holy lands, etc. Are you familiar with any of this? Is there a ZOO in Orlando? I know there is an old-town in Orlando, with a Rosie O'grady's bar, and other attractions (where some friends have gone and enjoyed the nightlife). Yet, with children--etc., we prefer to hit DTD and the Westside for fun while in WDW. It's easier, closer and safer (IMHO).

I've heard about Spring Break and Bike-week in Daytona, and would never make that mistake. We accidentally crossed through Sturgis during a bike festival years ago--and it was a nightmare! LOL. No way. It's definitely NOT for kids either. :sad2:

I visited a place in Florida many, many years ago when I visited with my parents and siblings. It was called Juniper Springs. We spent the day snorkeling and swimming. A park guide informed us to use "great care" at dusk, as water moccasins also use the springs and swim across in the early evening. Their bite can be lethal! Ouch! I must say the springs were incredible--and the water was cool and crystal clear. Are these springs still around and open to the public? Is there one which is close to Orlando, which you might recommend taking the family to enjoy?

We love doing other things while visiting WDW, and often leave the grounds using the rental car to explore the city. We've seen the duck march at the Peabody (this was featured on the travel channel too--and is free to the public!), International drive and the Florida Millennium Mall, Sea World, Universal and IOA, Citywalk, and a few other attractions like Medieval Times dinner show and the Giant trucks, etc. There is always something going on in that City.

We would "love and appreciate" any other recommendations a true native may be able to offer. Are there any things in this city, or even the state we should NOT miss? I would be happy to look at websites or links you may have, and make an official list to bring with us on your behalf. So many people go to Orlando and never leave WDW property. This is how we used to visit. Now, we venture more and more into the City and surrounding area. Which BEACH do you say is the BEST one? We have heard about Clearwater, and another beach down by BG on the ocean (where people go to collect shells every morning). We would love to visit a clear & clean beach and enjoy a day in the sun and sand. We are not keen on jellyfish and sharks, so preferably one with low numbers of these types of marine life.

What is the big attraction to Sarasota Springs? Where did Ponce De Leon find the fountain of youth? How about the oldest City in Florida (St. Augustine?), and are there any special places to visit in this city which describe the history, etc?

We've thought about the everglades, but am afraid of the airboats and the gators. Have you ever visited this part of Florida, and would you recommend it to others?

Also, are there any stores or restaurants which we may enjoy visiting? I really appreciate your kind approach, and willingness to help out-of-staters! Some Floridians are not so happy with tourists, and definitely not as nice as you when it comes to helping them with loads of questions. You are great, and I am pleased to learn anything new!! :yay: :thumbsup2


The chinese gardens place you're thinking of was called Splendid China and its closed, the holy park was called Holy Land and it was in the process of closing. Rosie'O'Gradys was not at Old Town but at Church St. Station in downtown Orlando and most of that is closed too!!

(Sadly I think part of the reason for this is how much more the big theme parks are offering, these smaller places people used to venture to never got the business they needed to stay open)

There is a zoo near Orlando but the name escapes me at the moment, was there a long time ago. Also there's a nice science center on the other end of Orlando. I used to work at the parking garage there. They have an omnimax/planetarium which is huge and a big telescope too.

Believe it or not there's still a lot of places I havent been to yet. St. Augustine however, I have, 3 times and its quite fun. The Castilio De San Marcos (BIG Spanish fort) is quite cool and has a lot of cannons and stories associated with it and you can pretty much walk around the whole fort, and right next to it is many of the same buildings that were there back when it was the first town founded in the "new land". I believe 4th graders in Florida all have to go on a field trip there since its such a good historical place.

I've seen things about the fountain of youth in St. Augustine but I dont think thats where Ponce De Leon went. Actually Im not sure... :rolleyes:

Restaurants, there's a few of my personal favorites. Most of these are in the I-drive area, Bahama Breeze is very good and not too pricy though, it can have a long wait to get in sometimes. The place is very nice inside and they have over 100 kinds of tropical drinks on the menu.

If you have members of your family who like racing, there's Race Rock which is basically a big museum and restaurant. It's definitely not subtle, but the food is pretty good and there's all kinds of racing cars, trucks, motorbikes, boats, you name it, it's sitting right next to you or above you.

There's a lot of chinese buffet places and most I would avoid, but one that I've always enjoyed is Bill Wong's at the corner of I-Drive and Kirkman road (about a mile from Universal), it's high quality and the best chinese I've had anywhere.

[Amity 3]

Which BEACH do you say is the BEST one? We have heard about Clearwater, and another beach down by BG on the ocean (where people go to collect shells every morning). We would love to visit a clear & clean beach and enjoy a day in the sun and sand. We are not keen on jellyfish and sharks, so preferably one with low numbers of these types of marine life.


Siesta Key in Sarasota. we spent another day there today.

[Dsnyfam]

The chinese gardens place you're thinking of was called Splendid China and its closed, the holy park was called Holy Land and it was in the process of closing. Rosie'O'Gradys was not at Old Town but at Church St. Station in downtown Orlando and most of that is closed too!!

(Sadly I think part of the reason for this is how much more the big theme parks are offering, these smaller places people used to venture to never got the business they needed to stay open)

There is a zoo near Orlando but the name escapes me at the moment, was there a long time ago. Also there's a nice science center on the other end of Orlando. I used to work at the parking garage there. They have an omnimax/planetarium which is huge and a big telescope too.

Believe it or not there's still a lot of places I havent been to yet. St. Augustine however, I have, 3 times and its quite fun. The Castilio De San Marcos (BIG Spanish fort) is quite cool and has a lot of cannons and stories associated with it and you can pretty much walk around the whole fort, and right next to it is many of the same buildings that were there back when it was the first town founded in the "new land". I believe 4th graders in Florida all have to go on a field trip there since its such a good historical place.

I've seen things about the fountain of youth in St. Augustine but I dont think thats where Ponce De Leon went. Actually Im not sure... :rolleyes:

Restaurants, there's a few of my personal favorites. Most of these are in the I-drive area, Bahama Breeze is very good and not too pricy though, it can have a long wait to get in sometimes. The place is very nice inside and they have over 100 kinds of tropical drinks on the menu.

If you have members of your family who like racing, there's Race Rock which is basically a big museum and restaurant. It's definitely not subtle, but the food is pretty good and there's all kinds of racing cars, trucks, motorbikes, boats, you name it, it's sitting right next to you or above you.

There's a lot of chinese buffet places and most I would avoid, but one that I've always enjoyed is Bill Wong's at the corner of I-Drive and Kirkman road (about a mile from Universal), it's high quality and the best chinese I've had anywhere.Thanks again, Chris (For taking the time to answer all my questions). I am sad to read all these places have now closed. :confused3 Does Disney have this much of an impact on area sights? Incredible. It's like a super walmart moving into an area (all the retailers cringe and know it's a death sentence). Sad.

I wanted to ask you about the Indy experience, or the race car track where a professional race car driver owns the track and you can pay to drive the car (something like that). I do not know the name, but have read of it before.

Also, we have passed a pirate's cove place pirate:
where there are pirates and birds, and miniature golf too (I believe). Is this a good place to spend an afternoon? How about the Ripley's believe it or not (building is sinking to one side on I-drive)? :confused3

Places like these are actually essential in our opinion. We enjoy the break from WDW, and also like to see the City of Orlando a little bit. When we come in on the airplane, we sometimes stay off-property for the first night. We then visit one of these places the next day, before heading to WDW to check-in and run around the parks. It's nice, and helps us to adjust to the time and relax more. Everyone likes doing this, rather than head straight to WDW (we get in late sometimes, and it seems a waste of time/money).

The science center sounds really great! I will try to find out the name of this place, along with other info. Everyone would love this visit. :thumbsup2

We have passed Bahama Breeze before. I never knew they had more than 100 tropical drinks listed!! I wonder if anyone has ever tried them all (over time that is)? We have definitely passed RACE ROCK, as this is where we stopped to see the giant truck (in the parking lot). We will make it a point to enter the restaurant next time. We've been in the Nascar place in US Citywalk. The cars are suspended overhead, and the engines rev while the wheels spin, etc! I was freaked the first time it happened. We also like the rainforest, for the same reasons (interaction and animation). The food is not bad either.

We all love chinese, and will give Bill Wong's a visit when there next time. We used to love a chinese restaurant run by the Olive Garden, where they served these incredible honey-bun muffins as the bread, all warm in a basket. They were incredible. I can not remember the name, but it was across from the old Costco. We were sad when it closed. Seems things come and go in Orlando. The economy is fickle, and only supports so much of one thing.
Thanks again!!


Amity 3---Thanks for the beach advice! Are you on vacation in Fla? I've never heard of that beach. Is it close to WDW? We do not mind a little drive, as we have a car while we stay in WDW---and we have driven to BG before (which is farther away than everyone calculated). We must have a "beach day" on our next visit. People equate Florida with beaches, and always ask us which beach we visited when we tell them about our vacation. Therefore, I will have an answer for this question if we visit a beach or two. Plus, everyone LOVES the beach!! :goodvibes

[Slothman23]

It's a stupid (IMO) advertising campaign this year. Busch Gardens Europe is Williamsburg and Busch Gardens Africa is Tampa

I think next year they're going back to their "normal" names

I don't think it's all that stupid. I think it makes sense to call the VA park Europe since its lands are themed to European countries. I haven't been to the FL park, but I would assume it's themeing is done in the same fashion with Africa as it's reference point.

[matthew&haleysmom]

I don't think it's all that stupid. I think it makes sense to call the VA park Europe since its lands are themed to European countries. I haven't been to the FL park, but I would assume it's themeing is done in the same fashion with Africa as it's reference point.


I agree. They have been through a couple of name changes though. BG Tampa is themed after African countries.


I live 40 mins from BG Europe and love it. We went last weekend for Halloscream. It is a beautifully landscaped park. :wave2:

[ChrisFL]

I don't think it's all that stupid. I think it makes sense to call the VA park Europe since its lands are themed to European countries. I haven't been to the FL park, but I would assume it's themeing is done in the same fashion with Africa as it's reference point.

Ah but back in the old days they had less confusing names, Tampa's was "The Dark Continent" and Williamsburg's was "The Old Country" (IIRC)

Those give an idea of what the park is about without making people think the park is actually IN Europe or even maybe Africa

[ChrisFL]

Thanks again, Chris (For taking the time to answer all my questions). I am sad to read all these places have now closed. :confused3 Does Disney have this much of an impact on area sights? Incredible. It's like a super walmart moving into an area (all the retailers cringe and know it's a death sentence). Sad.

I wanted to ask you about the Indy experience, or the race car track where a professional race car driver owns the track and you can pay to drive the car (something like that). I do not know the name, but have read of it before.

Also, we have passed a pirate's cove place pirate:
where there are pirates and birds, and miniature golf too (I believe). Is this a good place to spend an afternoon? How about the Ripley's believe it or not (building is sinking to one side on I-drive)? :confused3

Places like these are actually essential in our opinion. We enjoy the break from WDW, and also like to see the City of Orlando a little bit. When we come in on the airplane, we sometimes stay off-property for the first night. We then visit one of these places the next day, before heading to WDW to check-in and run around the parks. It's nice, and helps us to adjust to the time and relax more. Everyone likes doing this, rather than head straight to WDW (we get in late sometimes, and it seems a waste of time/money).

The science center sounds really great! I will try to find out the name of this place, along with other info. Everyone would love this visit. :thumbsup2

We have passed Bahama Breeze before. I never knew they had more than 100 tropical drinks listed!! I wonder if anyone has ever tried them all (over time that is)? We have definitely passed RACE ROCK, as this is where we stopped to see the giant truck (in the parking lot). We will make it a point to enter the restaurant next time. We've been in the Nascar place in US Citywalk. The cars are suspended overhead, and the engines rev while the wheels spin, etc! I was freaked the first time it happened. We also like the rainforest, for the same reasons (interaction and animation). The food is not bad either.

We all love chinese, and will give Bill Wong's a visit when there next time. We used to love a chinese restaurant run by the Olive Garden, where they served these incredible honey-bun muffins as the bread, all warm in a basket. They were incredible. I can not remember the name, but it was across from the old Costco. We were sad when it closed. Seems things come and go in Orlando. The economy is fickle, and only supports so much of one thing.
Thanks again!!


Amity 3---Thanks for the beach advice! Are you on vacation in Fla? I've never heard of that beach. Is it close to WDW? We do not mind a little drive, as we have a car while we stay in WDW---and we have driven to BG before (which is farther away than everyone calculated). We must have a "beach day" on our next visit. People equate Florida with beaches, and always ask us which beach we visited when we tell them about our vacation. Therefore, I will have an answer for this question if we visit a beach or two. Plus, everyone LOVES the beach!! :goodvibes


The only Pirates Cove places Im aware of are just Mini-Golf places, and there's a LOT of those all over Central Florida. Congo River Rapids is another one you see everywhere. They don't have anything other than mini-golf so you'd only be there for a couple hours at best.


The science center is just called Orlando Science Center :thumbsup2

There's a Richard Petty NASCAR experience AT Disney itself, and I've heard good reviews. I haven't heard of an Indy style event in Orlando (but I have heard of one in Las Vegas)

I prefer open wheel racing, so if it was available I would most likely know about it. Or it was something in one of the go-kart tracks like what was Malibu Grand Prix (and also closed)

IMO yes, the big theme parks (and I dont mean just Disney) have added so much to vacations and reasons to stay on site, I think it has severely impacted the other tourist spots in Orlando.

That chinese place with the warm bread was probably China Coast....it was a chain restaurant and I liked it too.

[Amity 3]

Amity 3---Thanks for the beach advice! Are you on vacation in Fla? I've never heard of that beach. Is it close to WDW? We do not mind a little drive, as we have a car while we stay in WDW---and we have driven to BG before (which is farther away than everyone calculated). We must have a "beach day" on our next visit. People equate Florida with beaches, and always ask us which beach we visited when we tell them about our vacation. Therefore, I will have an answer for this question if we visit a beach or two. Plus, everyone LOVES the beach!! :goodvibes

I'm always on vacation in florida, we live here. ;)

Siesta Key is a Gulf beach system less than two hours from WDW. it's consistently ranked as one of the best beaches in the country, not just FLA. just something to think about for upcoming trips.

[Dsnyfam]

The only Pirates Cove places Im aware of are just Mini-Golf places, and there's a LOT of those all over Central Florida. Congo River Rapids is another one you see everywhere. They don't have anything other than mini-golf so you'd only be there for a couple hours at best.


The science center is just called Orlando Science Center :thumbsup2

There's a Richard Petty NASCAR experience AT Disney itself, and I've heard good reviews. I haven't heard of an Indy style event in Orlando (but I have heard of one in Las Vegas)

I prefer open wheel racing, so if it was available I would most likely know about it. Or it was something in one of the go-kart tracks like what was Malibu Grand Prix (and also closed)

IMO yes, the big theme parks (and I dont mean just Disney) have added so much to vacations and reasons to stay on site, I think it has severely impacted the other tourist spots in Orlando.

That chinese place with the warm bread was probably China Coast....it was a chain restaurant and I liked it too.
CHINA COAST!! That's it! It was near the old Costco store, on Kirkman I believe. It was a great place to eat, and those rolls were "to die for" (the best reason to visit). :thumbsup2

I have heard about the R. Petty racing, but it's a bit pricey for us (more than $200 and up PP). :confused3 We passed an open track place somewhere while we were driving to BG some time ago, and it had a huge arcade, etc. It was a massive place, and the driving track was quite intricate (landscaped and shaped). We were going to stop, but we were meeting others at the park and had to keep on schedule. :sad2: When we returned late in the night, it was closed. We can't recall the city, but it must be a chain-type of place.

I wish there was enough interest in ALL the little "creative and unusual" places for people to visit in such a City. We have visited the special "ice cream cone" shop in the City. It looks like a giant vanilla cone, and has great ice cream! We saw it featured on the travel channel, along with a road which actually pulls your car UPHILL! Are you familiar with these places? I'm sure there are so many more. I recall decades ago, when I traveled with my folks--we would see roadside stores with gators and bears as attractions. These were little gas stations, and they had these animals in cages on the property! I'm sure laws were enacted to prevent this kind of thing, but at the time (I was a kid), we all thought it was super-cool! :yay:

Thanks for your help. If there is anything else you can think of (to NOT miss) please be sure to post it. ;)

[ChrisFL]

CHINA COAST!! That's it! It was near the old Costco store, on Kirkman I believe. It was a great place to eat, and those rolls were "to die for" (the best reason to visit). :thumbsup2

I have heard about the R. Petty racing, but it's a bit pricey for us (more than $200 and up PP). :confused3 We passed an open track place somewhere while we were driving to BG some time ago, and it had a huge arcade, etc. It was a massive place, and the driving track was quite intricate (landscaped and shaped). We were going to stop, but we were meeting others at the park and had to keep on schedule. :sad2: When we returned late in the night, it was closed. We can't recall the city, but it must be a chain-type of place.

I wish there was enough interest in ALL the little "creative and unusual" places for people to visit in such a City. We have visited the special "ice cream cone" shop in the City. It looks like a giant vanilla cone, and has great ice cream! We saw it featured on the travel channel, along with a road which actually pulls your car UPHILL! Are you familiar with these places? I'm sure there are so many more. I recall decades ago, when I traveled with my folks--we would see roadside stores with gators and bears as attractions. These were little gas stations, and they had these animals in cages on the property! I'm sure laws were enacted to prevent this kind of thing, but at the time (I was a kid), we all thought it was super-cool! :yay:

Thanks for your help. If there is anything else you can think of (to NOT miss) please be sure to post it. ;)


Hmm, open track place on the way to BG? Interesting, I'll have to check into that. There was a Malibu track in Tampa, but it's changed its name to something else, maybe thats what you saw, dont know.

Anyway, yes the car rolling uphill place is Spook Hill (some info on it is here: http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/FLLAKspook.html). I haven't been there but oddly enough, on the way to Daytona last weekend I was talking about going there. I've seen it on TV and it's quite a bit freaky!!

[Amity 3]

Hmm, open track place on the way to BG? Interesting, I'll have to check into that. There was a Malibu track in Tampa, but it's changed its name to something else, maybe thats what you saw, dont know.


Tampa Grand Prix?

[ChrisFL]

Tampa Grand Prix?

Yes, I think thats what its called now

[Dsnyfam]

Tampa Grand Prix?That may be the name, I do not recall. It looked like a lot of fun! :banana: :yay: Are these places affordable (how much on average to participate, etc?). We may plan another trip down to BG, and will make time to stop at the race track if it's not too costly. The last time we stopped at a little track, it was in Orlando near WDW many, many years back. It was near a miniature golf place, and some hotels too (close to Sea World If I recall correctly). It seemed expensive for the race track tickets (we purchased a booklet including about 10 rides and shared them among our family). These cars were like go-carts, and the track was outside. It was not very big, and I thought it would cost a lot less than it did. :confused3 Their miniature golf was fun, and more affordable.

Chris--Spook Hill! That place looks like fun, and it's free too! We definitely have to stop there again. Thanks for the link and info.

As for the ice cream cone shop, do you know the street it's on? We found it by accident in Orlando, and wanted to visit it again in the future. I do not want to drive around wasting time and gas, if we can locate the street in advance. This place is so worth a stop again. The ice cream was "creamy" and not too rich. Perfect actually. :thumbsup2

P.S. You mentioned Daytona in your post. Do you enjoy or prefer that beach? Can people still drive cars on the sand, etc? TIA. :goodvibes

[ChrisFL]

That may be the name, I do not recall. It looked like a lot of fun! :banana: :yay: Are these places affordable (how much on average to participate, etc?). We may plan another trip down to BG, and will make time to stop at the race track if it's not too costly. The last time we stopped at a little track, it was in Orlando near WDW many, many years back. It was near a miniature golf place, and some hotels too (close to Sea World If I recall correctly). It seemed expensive for the race track tickets (we purchased a booklet including about 10 rides and shared them among our family). These cars were like go-carts, and the track was outside. It was not very big, and I thought it would cost a lot less than it did. :confused3 Their miniature golf was fun, and more affordable.

Chris--Spook Hill! That place looks like fun, and it's free too! We definitely have to stop there again. Thanks for the link and info.

As for the ice cream cone shop, do you know the street it's on? We found it by accident in Orlando, and wanted to visit it again in the future. I do not want to drive around wasting time and gas, if we can locate the street in advance. This place is so worth a stop again. The ice cream was "creamy" and not too rich. Perfect actually. :thumbsup2

P.S. You mentioned Daytona in your post. Do you enjoy or prefer that beach? Can people still drive cars on the sand, etc? TIA. :goodvibes


I have no idea where the ice cream shop is. My parents like Daytona Beach and I went with them this past time, there's not a whole lot of activities there but its ok. Yes, people can still drive their cars on the sand from time to time.