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JimMIA
08-03-2006, 10:48 AM
There's a post on the DVC Planning board which says the DDP will be $38.99 for adults next year. That's about all the info she had; here's the link:

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=13828074&postcount=17

bamabelle
08-03-2006, 10:51 AM
Still, an amazing deal!

calypso*a*go-go
08-03-2006, 10:53 AM
Well, if it's only going up $1 then I guess they definitely aren't losing huge amounts of money from people abusing the plan. It will be interesting to see if there's anything in writing giving more specific instructions on what can and can't be done with the dining credits.

Lewisc
08-03-2006, 10:58 AM
Well, if it's only going up $1 then I guess they definitely aren't losing huge amounts of money from people abusing the plan. It will be interesting to see if there's anything in writing giving more specific instructions on what can and can't be done with the dining credits.

or they were losing huge amounts of money from people abusing the plan and Disney can increase revenue/reduce costs by doing things like seperating credits rather than increasing the price.

or the truth is something in the middle.

JimMIA
08-03-2006, 11:00 AM
Well, if it's only going up $1 then I guess they definitely aren't losing huge amounts of money from people abusing the plan.Or...they've closed the holes to their satisfaction. It will be interesting to see if there's anything in writing giving more specific instructions on what can and can't be done with the dining credits.That would be helpful...

bamabelle
08-03-2006, 11:15 AM
After just returning from the World, I can say that I thought the TS places we chose had very poor quality food. Most places gave you a special menu to order from with limited choices. After a week, I was really sick of sauteed green bean, mashed potatoes and carrots. Everything on the menus could be purchased in bulk so I am sure that Disney is still making mega-bucks, otherwise they would not be offering this plan! And, if they were really worried about people abusing the plan, they should have designed it to differentiate between child and adult credits. DH and I usually shared a CS because we weren't terribly hungry (after downing water all day!) and our DD and DS would each get one CS. Some days, my DK's shared but rarely. On our last day, we had 9 CS left. We all ate breakfast at Capt. Cooks then went back on the way to the car and got 3 flatbreads and 2 sandwiches to go. I wasn't going to leave any food uneated. We just weren't hungry during the day between breakfast and dinner. It works out differently for everyone, but I don't think that people sit down and plan out how they can screw Disney on the DDP.

Lewisc
08-03-2006, 11:54 AM
Name one TS restaurant that has a special menu for MYW Dining guests?

I'll agree that the food in the buffets, family style and dinner shows isn't much better than your description but that's nothing new. The cost of the ingredients for many of the meals, particularly the character meals, is a fraction of the menu price.

All indications are Disney is in the process of separating adult and child credits because too many guests took advantage of the plan's flexibility.





After just returning from the World, I can say that I thought the TS places we chose had very poor quality food. Most places gave you a special menu to order from with limited choices. After a week, I was really sick of sauteed green bean, mashed potatoes and carrots. Everything on the menus could be purchased in bulk so I am sure that Disney is still making mega-bucks, otherwise they would not be offering this plan! And, if they were really worried about people abusing the plan, they should have designed it to differentiate between child and adult credits. DH and I usually shared a CS because we weren't terribly hungry (after downing water all day!) and our DD and DS would each get one CS. Some days, my DK's shared but rarely. On our last day, we had 9 CS left. We all ate breakfast at Capt. Cooks then went back on the way to the car and got 3 flatbreads and 2 sandwiches to go. I wasn't going to leave any food uneated. We just weren't hungry during the day between breakfast and dinner. It works out differently for everyone, but I don't think that people sit down and plan out how they can screw Disney on the DDP.

The Sweetness
08-03-2006, 02:36 PM
:confused3 I guess it takes all types... I havent been to WDW in quite a long time, but I remember having lunch at the CP in MK, Dinners at the GG in EPCOT, and CMs at the CR. Never once was I disappointed in the food that was served. I happen to enjoy buffets because they allow me and my family to eat whatever we choose, in whatever amounts we deem appropriate. I tend to eat more beef and chicken than I'd be served as a traditional entree, and also eat more salad. But little else, untill I get to dessert :rolleyes1

n2mm
08-03-2006, 04:04 PM
There are no separate menus.....We have done the DDP many times and many of those times we dine with our WDW CM friends, our DDE friends and friend with no discounts (yikes) and never did anyone in our group get a different menu from the folks using the DDP to the folks not using the DDP.

patsal
08-04-2006, 10:41 AM
The only time you will encounter a "different menu" is if you are using the fantasmic dinner package at the Brown Derby or Mam Melrose's (I think those are the only two that participate in addtion to HV). there you and everyone else who chose the Fantasmic Package will have a limited menu to chose from--so it isn't limited becasue you chose to use DDP it is limited because of the Fantasmic Package.

mickeymousemom
08-04-2006, 10:59 AM
Whew! That post up there scared me. I know when we were there last Oct. we ordered off the same menu as everyone else. I've never heard of a "special" menu being offered for DDP guests....

dgaston
08-04-2006, 11:14 AM
I also think some menu choices are limited at Teppanyaki.

OhMari
08-04-2006, 11:25 AM
I also found out over on the DVC Boards that renters cannot call ME anymore and book the Dining Plan, nor can I check on my reservations-that is a whole other subject.

When I call next week to book my package, I am going ask her if I can extend my dining plan. I'm staying 4 days at POR, then 4 days at BWV. I will be getting my MYW tickets also with the dining plan.

MissMichelle
08-04-2006, 11:29 AM
I also think some menu choices are limited at Teppanyaki.

Do you happen to know what or know where a post is stating this? I just did a search and couldn't find it. I am eating @ Teppanyaki my last night there and would hate to be limited. Especially since DH is very picky and it was hard enough trying to get him to agree on Japanese food.
Thanks in advance to anyone with the info ;) :thumbsup2

Laurajean1014
08-04-2006, 11:30 AM
After just returning from the World, I can say that I thought the TS places we chose had very poor quality food. Most places gave you a special menu to order from with limited choices. After a week, I was really sick of sauteed green bean, mashed potatoes and carrots. Everything on the menus could be purchased in bulk so I am sure that Disney is still making mega-bucks, otherwise they would not be offering this plan! And, if they were really worried about people abusing the plan, they should have designed it to differentiate between child and adult credits. DH and I usually shared a CS because we weren't terribly hungry (after downing water all day!) and our DD and DS would each get one CS. Some days, my DK's shared but rarely. On our last day, we had 9 CS left. We all ate breakfast at Capt. Cooks then went back on the way to the car and got 3 flatbreads and 2 sandwiches to go. I wasn't going to leave any food uneated. We just weren't hungry during the day between breakfast and dinner. It works out differently for everyone, but I don't think that people sit down and plan out how they can screw Disney on the DDP.

If everyone did/does this do you still think there's mega bucks to be made?

BCV23
08-04-2006, 12:16 PM
or they were losing huge amounts of money from people abusing the plan and Disney can increase revenue/reduce costs by doing things like seperating credits rather than increasing the price.

or the truth is something in the middle.

Or increase the room prices.

The great AP rates are a thing of the past and I would guess that is because of people purchasing just one for their families and using it for a discount as opposed to purchasing APs for everyone for the intended purpose of unlimited admission.

That was as strategy that many promoted on the boards and the result is AP room discounts that are soooo much smaller than they used to be. Call it abuse or not but if discounts are taken advantage of, it only makes sense that WDW will find some way to recoup the lost potential.

Pedler
08-04-2006, 12:24 PM
Or increase the room prices.

The great AP rates are a thing of the past and I would guess that is because of people purchasing just one for their families and using it for a discount as opposed to purchasing APs for everyone for the intended purpose of unlimited admission.

That was as strategy that many promoted on the boards and the result is AP room discounts that are soooo much smaller than they used to be. Call it abuse or not but if discounts are taken advantage of, it only makes sense that WDW will find some way to recoup the lost potential.

Another view of that is that the use of the Magical Express and the Dinning Plan have been successful in increasing occupancy so they don't need to offer as many or as great of AP discounts as they did in the past to achieve the same level of occupancy during slow times.

JimMIA
08-04-2006, 12:26 PM
Do you happen to know what or know where a post is stating this? I just did a search and couldn't find it. I am eating @ Teppanyaki my last night there and would hate to be limited. Especially since DH is very picky and it was hard enough trying to get him to agree on Japanese food.
Thanks in advance to anyone with the info ;) :thumbsup2
We ate there on DDP in May, and we found the limitations so minimal I can't remember them! I think they were that you could not add a lobster side to make surf & turf (several restaurants understandably have that limitation), and you couldn't order sushi as an appetizer. If you wanted either, they would be OOP.

I could be wrong, but I think that was it -- certainly nothing to keep you from enjoying a wide range of great choices.

BCV23
08-04-2006, 12:42 PM
Another view of that is that the use of the Magical Express and the Dinning Plan have been successful in increasing occupancy so they don't need to offer as many or as great of AP discounts as they did in the past to achieve the same level of occupancy during slow times.

That is a very good point.

However, the AP discounts became much less at least a year or two before the DDP and ME started. :confused3

TDC Nala
08-05-2006, 01:32 AM
That is a very good point.

However, the AP discounts became much less at least a year or two before the DDP and ME started. :confused3

Yes...
but occupancy was also going up at that time. Occupancy has gone up steadily since traveling picked up again following the down times after 9/11.

BCV23
08-05-2006, 08:36 AM
Yes...
but occupancy was also going up at that time. Occupancy has gone up steadily since traveling picked up again following the down times after 9/11.

That is true.

But there were great AP rates pre 9/11 as well. AP rates represented significant savings for many years but no longer. :sad2:

Palendat
08-05-2006, 10:02 AM
I don't think that AP specials are less because of "abuse". I think Disney is looking for ways to increase revenue (dining plan) and give great service (ME) instead of giving discounts (which gives them less revenue). Guests who stay on site exculsively for extended stays are actually paying less for their vacations (MYW tickets, no car rental necessary, DDP) while those on short stays, or also going to Universal, etc., are paying more per night.

BCV23
08-05-2006, 10:25 AM
ME and MYW are certainly designed for that reason.

But AP rates had been great for many years through many promotions. For most of those years, only those of us with APs for our whole families were using them or even knew about them.

We made enough trips per year to justify the cost of our APs and the discounts were a bonus. I knew a couple who would plan last minute weekend trips and pop down from Illinois with their APs. I think WDW made quite a bit of money on families like ours. We have APs precisely because we do spend our money at WDW not Universal.

Good AP rates and promotions like ME and MYW are not mutually exclusive. And again, the deep AP discounts were gone before ME and MYW.

bicker
08-05-2006, 12:07 PM
Hehe... that would be kinda neat if it only went up $1. That's what I guess in a thread last week where this came up. :)

The size of the increase has nothing to do with whether or not they're making money or how much. Prices are always reflective of what the market is willing to pay, and specifically set based on what will raise the most revenue, which requires factoring in both costs but also the impact prices have on whether customers will buy or not. If too many people abuse the plan, then they'll just apply more annoying enforcement measures, balancing the impact of those measures against how many honest customers that would chase away, or they'll add-in a costly systems change, again figuring on whether or not the violations warrant such expenditures.

jjohnson
08-05-2006, 03:24 PM
I guess I lost that bet then. :blush:

I still think the price for the 3-9 will go up $2 or $3. The price as it is now, is less than the buffet price at CM.