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captaincrash
07-23-2006, 01:51 PM
OK...

Now I know this question has been asked before (since time eternal, no doubt) and I DID a search of the forum - and the last significant thread I found was started back in August of 2005 - with the last response in December of 2005... so it seemed reasonable to pose this question again with emphasis on those who have booked a guarantee catagory (12-7?) and sailed in 2006. If your experience predates 2006 - please feel free to share your experiences(s) too - however - we are looking for folks who have sailed on a GUARANTEE BASIS in 2006 in particular.

In an attempt to achieve maximum usefulness from the info... please state 1) What guarantee catagory you booked (most should be 12 Grnty - a few might be 9 or 7 though); and 2nd) How many were in your party?; 3rd) When did you book?; 4th) what was your sailing? 3-4-7-or 10-11-14? Plus - if you don't mind...5th) let us know if you're a repeat Disney cruise Castaway Club member... and 6th) whether you felt your cabin assignment was in a good position on the ship .... IE ... were you near the front where lots of ships motion is encounterest - or did you have an extra noisey cabin... or other problem with the assigned cabin? :confused3

Some of me questions are reflected in the poll for quick unaudited tallies at a glance.

And ... I'm waiting for my cabin assignment in a 12 guarantee - our 1st booking like this - so we're sincerely interested in finding out what currently seems to be going on with these kind of reservations.

In past threads - from what I can tell - parties of 4 are more likely to see catagory 11 or better since it seems catagory 12 has no cabins that take 4 pax. And very few (if any) get better than a catagory 9 from a 12 guarantee. Plus - there was no measurement of how Castaway Club patrons fared versus New patrons.... or whether the length of sailing made any difference.... or whether it made any difference who you booked through.

Remember - if your experience was BEFORE 2006 - please feel welcome to respond and share your story here. However - if your experience with a guarantee was in 2006 - then please do post what came of your booking!

Thanks in advance :thanks: to those who reply or post with constructive interest.

:thumbsup2

HLAuburn
07-23-2006, 02:13 PM
:rotfl:

Interested to see the results, but I'm glad I never booked a guarantee, 'cause this is too confusing for me! ;)

yearbook50
07-23-2006, 02:17 PM
I'm interested in these results too.
I have a cat 12 gty for my upcoming trip.

jns
07-23-2006, 02:52 PM
I'm interested in these results too.
I have a cat 12 gty for my upcoming trip.

same here

Please Post :wizard:

captaincrash
07-23-2006, 04:58 PM
So...

Please note - that even though most folks with experience booking a guarantee catagory did not post a reply (yet) ... many have VOTED their data into the poll. So - for those of us who have not voted yet (myself included) because we have not received our cabin assignments yet.... so we can gain some insight by looking at the POLL VOTING RESULTS without voting. And, of course, once you've voted you cannot vote again. So check it out. SO far after having had 98 visitors to the thread - we have no one indicating they started with a 12 guarantee and got a 12. One party each has indicated they got either an 11 or a 10 inside cabin. And one got a 9 window while 2 got an 8 window. No one received a veranda... yet. So, aside from that - it looks almost 50/50 as to whether they booked with a TA or DCL directly. And only 2 stated they were repeat cruising Castaway Club members. What is not clear is whether the length of cruise has any bearing ... or whether the number of pax in a cabin influences the result. And beyond that - anyone with an opinion states their cabin assignment was in a good or OK location. No one complained of a bad cabin assignment.... yet.

Thanks for your POLL replies so far. Anyone having any further remarks are welcome to write a little something here too! Keep them coming!!!

nextcruz
07-23-2006, 06:59 PM
We booked a GTY12, sailing next week, were assigned a 10. I'll let you know when we returned how the room was...

I also saw a thread recently that asked the same question...

Here it is, was started 7/15/2006 with 32 replies.
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1166353

GenerationK-er
07-23-2006, 08:13 PM
I am sailing on the 4 nite Wonder August 6, 2006 and booked a GTY Cat12 on June14, 2006. My Cruise docs arrived this week and I was assigned room 2515 which is a category 12. This may have happened because I called and spoke to a Disney agent to get my confirmation # to complete online check-in and make ressies, ect. Well, while I had the agent on the phone I asked what room I had been assigned to--SILLY ME! :rotfl: . He explained that I had booked a GTY status and I did not have an assignment yet. I didn't understand why not, so I think I he got aggravated in trying to explain this to me(should have been reading about this on DIS) and just assigned me a room during the call. He told me the Cat12 rooms are the ones in the forward part of the ship on Deck 2, and assigned me 2512 on the spot. Passisive-agressiveness--maybe, but I couldn't tell he was very polite and seemed as though he was trying to be helpful :sad2: . Then, I read somewhere that this was one of the noisy rooms. I called on yesterday and requested a different room. I was told that all of the Cat12 rooms were sold, so if I wanted a different one I would have to upgrade to a Cat 11. The upgrade cost $60 total and I now have been assigned to room 6539. I was happy to pay and be moved.
I am traveling on my maiden Disney voyage with my DD,13 and my DS 21months. Booked through Disney.
I hope this helps.

luvmykids
07-23-2006, 11:50 PM
I am booked a guaranteed room in december for a category 10. Do I have a chance of being upgraded or do I have a better chance if I release the room....Does anyone know?

captaincrash
07-24-2006, 01:56 AM
I am booked a guaranteed room in december for a category 10. Do I have a chance of being upgraded or do I have a better chance if I release the room....Does anyone know?

As mentioned before - if you have 4 pax in your cabin then you are assured of a catagory 11 or better (as it seems there are NO catagory 12 QUAD cabins).

And judging initially from the 17 responses on the poll so far - it seems about 4 of 17 get a catagory 12.... 3 of 17 get an 11.... 4 of 17 got a catagory 10..... ONE of 17 got a VERANDA.... and the rest got windows.

SO - it seems as if you have a 29% chance for a window cabin; a 64% chance for an inside cabin; which also translates into a 41% chance for an inside cabin that is better than a catagory 12; which a 23% chance for a catagory 12; and apparently a 6% chance for a veranda.

Note - we don't have enough responses to have real statistical significance. As normally we would probably throw out the single veranda result as insignificant (statistically). That is, unless we had another one or two step forward who received a veranda from a catagory 12 guarantee.

Off hand - I would NOT give up your catagory 12 guarantee as the worst you could do is get a catagory 12! And the guaranteed 12 should have been slightly cheaper than a assigned catagory 12. The difference being you could SELECT the precise location on the ship/deck. Some folks dislike noisey cabins - or cabins towards the far front or rear of a ship. This positions represent long walks to activities and - in the case of the far front - ships motion can be extreme in rough seas. This can trigger sea sickness in some.

NOw - what am I doing with MY catagory 12 guarantee? Well... I have 4 pax in our cabin - so I already expect a catagory 11 or better. As such, that alone saves me near $1100 against the current fares. And if we applied the on board rebooking discount that my reservation is carrying - then my savings diminishes to $750. That kind of savings is enough to pay for most if not all of my cabin tab! And ... if I get BETTER then a catagory 11... then I'll gain the split bath and possibly a window too! That sort of "savings" translates into $1300 or $2000-2400 saved (adjusting for our on board rebooking discount... the savings is $930 for a catagory 10 or $1600-2000!). I do not dare think what I'd save with my guarantee 12 booking IF I got a veranda... but just for giggles ... the minimum savings with todays fares from DCL would be $3500 ... or after discount adjustment ... $2800!!!!

I would hold out with the guarantee and plan for a 12 but hope for an improvement of some sort. The simplisticly estimated odds are about 77% in favor of getting better than a catagory 12!

And these "estimates" could change by tomorrow morning as we get more "votes" to our data base of responses.

For what its' worth... if you get an undesirable cabin - then go purchased shift - or hope for a free change BEFORE you sail... or try buying a change at the pier... or bring earplugs and or all the anti-seasickness remedies you can lay your hands on. We have 3 of those electric relief bands!

My spouse actually does NOT tolerate sea sickness motion very well. So if we get a bad cabin assignment - we are likely to try to "buy" a switch either in advance of sailing OR at the pier.

That's how we see it. If you have a serious aversion to cabins with some noise - or if you're vulnerable to sea sickness - then you should reconsider a cabin assignment.

Makes sense????

jdybnsn
07-24-2006, 03:59 AM
Ooops sorry !! I voted but didn't see the other questions below in the poll !!

We had a cat12 gty for this Feb (booked March 2005 through DU) for our first cruise - we were assigned a cat 10, 1 month before sail date, but this turned out to be below the nightclub and classified as noisy :sad2:-

We were definitely UNHAPPY with our assignment.

I could not bear the thought of paying all that money, and coming all the way to Florida from the UK , and possibly having our trip ruined by not being able to sleep. I had never thought of this being an issue before I booked and read so much stuff on this board. :guilty:

We ended up paying and extra $600 (reduced slightly by a DU on board credit) to upgrade to a cat 9 room 2514 (same room as you Captaincrash I believe !). We did not regret it !
I have wondered since if we would have paid substantially less for our Cat 9 if we'd booked it in March 2005 ??

Next cruise planned in Feb 2008 ..... I will definitely be booking a specific cat9 cabin :rolleyes1

captaincrash
07-24-2006, 05:00 PM
Ooops sorry !! I voted but didn't see the other questions below in the poll !!

We had a cat12 gty for this Feb (booked March 2005 through DU) for our first cruise - we were assigned a cat 10, 1 month before sail date, but this turned out to be below the nightclub and classified as noisy :sad2:-

We were definitely UNHAPPY with our assignment.

I could not bear the thought of paying all that money, and coming all the way to Florida from the UK , and possibly having our trip ruined by not being able to sleep. I had never thought of this being an issue before I booked and read so much stuff on this board. :guilty:

We ended up paying and extra $600 (reduced slightly by a DU on board credit) to upgrade to a cat 9 room 2514 (same room as you Captaincrash I believe !). We did not regret it !
I have wondered since if we would have paid substantially less for our Cat 9 if we'd booked it in March 2005 ??

Next cruise planned in Feb 2008 ..... I will definitely be booking a specific cat9 cabin :rolleyes1

Well now... what luck!!! Here are a few pix from our Sept 3rd 2005 Eastern sailing! Is the cabin just as you left it?

http://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/BC/52/C2/iBC52C2DE-1C78-4BBA-A26E-1BAE291ACCD1.jpghttp://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/C9/6E/88/iC96E88F5-ED3E-48A3-8662-75CB9A444C76.jpghttp://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/67/7F/CE/i677FCE9C-260E-45C0-B93C-7FA3A2E8BDE2.jpg

http://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/32/90/FA/i3290FA59-5389-41ED-9DCA-8F2EEBBE1479.jpghttp://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/F4/99/09/iF49909C7-9757-4140-A6BA-4F7BBB9097EE.jpg

http://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/13/5F/8D/i135F8D44-39BA-4C27-80AF-85B79CA21B20.jpghttp://www.dotphoto.com/SAN1/96/0C/CF/i960CCF35-93DA-4C5D-B3DB-1DED86A76735.jpg

jdybnsn: We should consider ourselves lucky our cabin 2514 did not have openings in the outer wall for OARs to be worked - or benches with fittings for chains! And alternatively - our loo did not have a coal shovel - a good sign considering the money we saved versus a "luxurious POSH" cabin, eh?

fran99999
07-24-2006, 05:53 PM
I booked 40 days out and was lucky enough to get a GTY 12. When I looked online I booked into Room 2588, Cat 9 OV.

The room had a view of the docks at PC. We left and when we reached Nassau I was on the dock side again so I got to SEE the port. When I looked out the window (with much head turning) I could see Atlantis in the distance. I would post the pic but am apparently computer challenged.

On CC we were on the dock side but back enough that the view was great still.

The cruise was great the CM that took care of us were outstanding!! I gave triple the $$ tip that was suggested for the 2 of us. I was rewarded with a hat from the kids club for my DS from ?????. I also brought onboard some Salt water Taffy from Rhode Island in a nice basket with Chocolate for the kids club staff as there is no way to really tip them. There should be envelopes for the kids club. The get much cudos :cheer2: from me taking care of all those kids all day long so we parents can rest ( LOL ya rest right).

All in all the whole trip was so great I have just booked my DS and me on the Carnival Fantasy for Aug 06. Anyone that wants an update on this trip I can send and email as I have no idea of where to put it. I will use the kids club as it will be DS7 and myself again.

captaincrash
07-24-2006, 06:35 PM
OK... here we are after about a day - we've had 498 "visits" to the thread... and 24 responses to the cabin assignment poll.

The apparent percentage chance for getting the following are as follows:

From 12 to a 12 = 16.6% or 1 in 6 chance
From 12 to an 11 = 16.6% or 1 in 6 chance
From 12 to a 10 = 25% or a 1 in 4 chance for an inside double bath
From 12 to a 9 = 20.8% or roughly a 1 in 5 chance for a window
From 12 to an 8 = 12.5% or 1 in 8 chance for a window
From 12 to a 7 = 4.2% or a 1 in 24 chance for a veranda
From 12 to a 6 or better = 4.2% or a 1 in 24 chance.

Simplisticly summarized as - there seems to be an
8.3% chance for veranda or better
33.3% chance for a window
41.7% chance for an inside better than a catagory 12
16.6% chance for no improvement over a catagory 12 - and maybe a LOSS with an adverse position on the ship.

Aside from this - it seems as if being a CC member is of no benefit when it comes to Guarantee assignments as neither of the veranda recipients appear to be CC members. And only 1 of 3 who got a catagory 8 window were CC patrons. That is a little disappointing as I used to think that repeat customers were APPRECIATED by an ongoing concern. I guess being a CC member only results in a free cabin gift when rebooking! OR... the best benefit is the 10% rebooking break and cabin credit for those rebooking while embarked. And if booking a guaranteed cabin - it MIGHT be better to NOT remind DCL that you're a CC member!!!!

Also, among those responding - it seems evenly divided as to whether the better assignments go to those booking with DCL or an independent TA. IE... it makes no difference among those obtaining a catagory 8 or better.

AND PLEASE NOTE... Verandas may not actually be given away - as the way the poll was worded - those who started with BETTER than a catagory 12 guarantee might have gotten a higher upgrade. IE, some might have booked a catory 9 guarantee and received a +5 or aq +6 upgrade to a ... (gasp)... catagory 4 or 3 cabin???? OR... maybe someone booked a catagory 7 guarantee and obtained a +5 or +6 assignment to a catagory 2 or... 1!!!?!? Hmmm..... :rolleyes: .... Nawww.....!

Also, it seems as if no one responding to the poll indicated they received a bad cabin - however, a couple of folks posting explained their story of how their assignments were questionable as they were assigned cabins with a "noisey" warning from prior cabin reports. So - we (or at least ..."I") expect that there must be a higher likelihood of getting a less desirable cabin location no matter what catagory you're awarded. IE, if not noise then perhaps an obstruction to the view or a far foreward location which is subject to ships' motion.

OK... anyone else having any recent experiences in 2006 with guarantee cabins - please post? Otherwise - if you EVER booked a guaranteed cabin - then share the news of what you got - and whether it was good, how you booked (DCL or not) and whether you're a CC member.

jdybnsn
07-25-2006, 04:11 AM
Thank you Captaincrash for sharing your images of 'our' cabin - I was thrilled to see them
......sorry if I'm going off topic everyone
..but these are mine in Feb 2006;

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/CNV00015.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/CNV00010.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/CNV00018.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/CNV00038.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/CNV00024.jpg


This is a really useful thread - I'm really interested to see how it turns out !!!

DisneyGirlTinkerbell
07-27-2006, 06:17 PM
I have a gty.12 booked for the 10-Night in Sept. I haven't received my room assignment yet, but let's keep this poll near the top.

off to neverland
07-27-2006, 08:42 PM
Thanks so much for posting this, Captain Crash! What a great poll, and I plan on watching it over time.

We took the plunge and booked a GTY for our December 06 cruise. After travelling last Jan in a CAT 11 on the 3 day -- and being VERY pleasantly surprised at how well it accomodated us --we decided to throw caution to the wind and go for a 12 this time.

I'd rather spend the saved money on a cruise to Hawaii (still trying to decide which cruise line).

I can't wait to see what we end up with, and if it's really terrible, well then...... I'll just spend more time eating, and less time in the room.

It's a win-win situation!!!

Anyway, thanks again for the great poll.

captaincrash
07-31-2006, 12:08 AM
OK...

At this point we have 930 visits to this page... and 33 "votes" reporting something about the sort of cabins that were given off a guaranteed reservation. We assume that most of these were "guaranteed catagory 12" even though 9 and 7 guarantee reservations have been seen.

So what are the odds - in a totally non-scientific - uncertified - and statistically insignificant way?

Well - so far - if you start in a 12 then the odds of getting a catagory ....

12 = 18%
11 = 18%
10 = 24%
9 = 21%
8 = 18%
7 = 6%
6+= 3%

Put another way ... the odds for a veranda or better are 9%; and for a window = 39%; and for an inside cabin that is above a 12 = 42%. It looks like it is an 82% chance for something better than a catagory 12 -or- a catagory EQUAL to the level at which you reserved. IE - you reserve a catagory 9 guarantee and GET a "9".

In addition to that - if you're a cast-Away club repeat cruiser - then I think it might look discouraging. Only 1 in 3 of those with a veranda upgrade were CC members. And only 4 of 13 receiving a window were CC members. Of course, 9 of 20 receiving an inside cabin assignment were CC members. So - overall - 14 of 33 reporting were Castaway Club members anyways.... which is 42.4%. SO ... having 1 in 3 get a veranda is like having a 33% chance for a V-upgrade if you're a CC member. ANd getting a window is a 30.8% probability IF you're a CC member. AND ... if you're a CC member than your ABOVE AVERAGE EXPECTION is for an INSIDE cabin at 45%... the overall average is 42.4%. Does this make any sense to you?

I guess inventory control has decided NOT to reward repeat clientle with better upgrades - instead they are focusing subtly on trying to "WOW" a 1st time patron with a slightly better cabin - specificly a window or VERANDA.

I am mildly disappointed even though I have NOT received my cabin assignment yet. Of course - there remains an ESTIMATED 9% chance for a veranda - adjusted by a factor of roughly 21% (42-33 divided by 42) for being a CC member - and the specific adjustment is unique to verandas - this makes the 9% really a 7.1% expectation for a veranda as a CC member.

Conversely, as a 1st time DCL patron - there is a 10.9% chance for a veranda.

For a window - I could do the unscientific math - but my threshold for "wow" is a veranda when paying for a 12. A window is very nice - and appreciated. :rolleyes:

SO... aside from all that .... I remain hopeful for a veranda - as the odds are slightly worse then hitting a 3 number combination bet on a roullette wheel (7.89%) ... or put another way since we're talking about gambling.... how many of you have played 21 in Vegas? Well... the single deck odds for the dealer to draw to 21 is 7.36% That is about equal to my adjusted odds for a CC member to get a veranda cabin. So - how often does this happen to you in Vegas where the dealer draws to 21? Well... I'd say the ratio of payoff is BETTER on VEGAS roulette then on DCL for a Veranda given the ratio of payoff. IE... the Vegas payoff is 11:1 while Disney amounts to about 2:1. :rolleyes1 SO - gamble more at VEgas - and reserve what YOU WANT on DCL... especially if you're a CC member. :confused3 Of course.... with Disney if you lose the veranda you are assured of getting something with an 84% for a "win" to some degree. And at Vegas when you lose (92.64% of the time with a 3 number combination) you walk away with nothing but the moments of brief excitement.

Maybe the catagory 12 guarantee "bet" with DCL is not so bad after all - as we always have a fantastic time no matter which catagory we've had in the past!!!! BEsides - we DO get decent CC member cabin gifts too as a spiff. That's actually more of a "trophy" then a simple souveneer towel or shoulder bag, eh!!!! :thumbsup2

S.S.Oceanlover
07-31-2006, 12:40 AM
we are booked in cat 12 guarantee for the 4 day Wonder 8/27/06. We are a family of 3. We got our assignment the other day. We are in a cat 11 on deck 7 in a handicapped room all the way at the back of the ship 7131.

We have another family of 4 going with us that also booked a cat 12 guarantee and were assigned a cat 11 on deck 6 midship 6099.

Hope this helps. :confused3

Bill

captaincrash
07-31-2006, 01:14 AM
we are booked in cat 12 guarantee for the 4 day Wonder 8/27/06. We are a family of 3. We got our assignment the other day. We are in a cat 11 on deck 7 in a handicapped room all the way at the back of the ship 7131.

We have another family of 4 going with us that also booked a cat 12 guarantee and were assigned a cat 11 on deck 6 midship 6099.

Hope this helps. :confused3

Bill

Thanks for yer feedback...

and (LOL! :rotfl2: ) your vote just shifted all of my numbers above!!! I think you did not vote as a CC member - so this slightly IMPROVES the expectation of CC members. As a 4 person reservation I think an 11 is the minimum they can assign you. BUT - of course - the 11 is an entire step better then a catagory 12 - so you still "win". The 3 person cabin is a better victory as there WAS a chance for a catagory 12 assignment.

Without checking for an actual cabin report - I was curious about your cabin positions. The 6099 cabin is adjacent to an unexplained "grey" section of the ship on deck 6. Above it is nothing but other cabins and the same grey section on deck 7. On deck 5 you are located roughly at one corner of the Oceaneers' club and / or a grey section of the ship. As I recall - adjacent to the oceaneers' club is a staging passageway for accessing the Oceaneers' club (silent for the most part). I would generally score this as "Good" especially since the center of the ship is least subject to motion. Only thing better would have been a lower level deck so there is less rotational motion down the length of the ship.

And for the 7131 cabin.... that's a SILENT cabin with nothing but crazy passengers to worry about. Well... there IS the fact its' a disabled serving cabin - so the layout is slightly unconventional - but the additional space makes it look like a verandaless suite!... sans concierge. :cool1: I'd score it a great assignment ... for a catagory 11. popcorn::

And thank you for the vote and explanations! Better luck next time on getting a Walt suite off the guarantee 12!!!! :confused3

poohssmum
07-31-2006, 09:52 AM
Our first cruise, booked through a TA ... booked a guarantee. Got cruise docs and we were assigned a Cat 8. Got a call from the TA 3 days before the cruise to change our stateroom number on the docs ... we'd been upgraded to a Cat 4 on deck 8 :cool1:

2nd cruise ... again booked through TA, again booked a guarantee. We were assigned a Cat 10. The room was fine, but it was right under Rockin' Bar D and we spent a lot of time listening to people dance and jump around on our heads.

3rd cruise ... rebooked on board and had ressie transferred to our TA. This time we didn't book a guarantee (because of the location of our room on that cruise), we booked a Cat 9 and we stayed in a Cat 9.

captaincrash
07-31-2006, 11:16 PM
OK...

At this point we have 1,087 visits to this page... and 45 "votes" reporting something about the sort of cabins that were given off a guaranteed reservation. We assume that most of these were "guaranteed catagory 12" even though 9 and 7 guarantee reservations have been seen.

So what are the odds - in a totally non-scientific - uncertified - and statistically insignificant way?

Well - so far - if you start in a 12 then the odds of getting a catagory ....

12 = 15.5%
11 = 17.7%
10 = 17.7%
9 = 24.4%
8 = 13.3%
7 = 4.4%
6+= 6.7%

Put another way ... the odds for a veranda or better are 11.1%; and for a window = 37.7%; and for an inside cabin that is above a 12 = 35.4%. It looks like it is an 86.5% chance for something better than a catagory 12 -or- better than the level at which you reserved. IE - you reserve a catagory 9 guarantee and GET a "8".

In addition to that - if you're a Cast-Away club repeat cruiser this is how the odds look. Only 1 in 5 of those with a veranda upgrade were CC members. And 6 of 17 receiving a window were CC members. Of course, 9 of 25 receiving an inside cabin assignment were CC members. So - overall - 16 of 45 reporting were Castaway Club members anyways.... which is 35.6%. SO ... having 1 in 5 get a veranda is like having a 20% chance for a V-upgrade if you're a CC member - substantially worse than the average. And getting a window is a 35.3% probability IF you're a CC member - which is consistent with the overall average. AND ... if you're a CC member than your EXPECTION for an INSIDE cabin is 36%... the overall average is 35.6%. So again, this is consistent with the overall average?

I guess inventory control has decided NOT to reward repeat clients with the best upgrades - instead they are focusing subtly on trying to "WOW" a 1st time patrons with better veranda cabins - specificly VERANDAs.

I am mildly disappointed even though I have NOT received my cabin assignment yet. Of course - there remains an ESTIMATED 11.1% chance for a veranda overall. Or as a DIS member... 1 in 15 got a veranda... which is comparable to a 6.7% chance. As a non-DIS member there appears to be a 4 in 30 which is comparable to a 13.3% probability.



SO... aside from all that .... I remain hopeful for a veranda - as the odds are slightly worse then hitting a 3 number combination bet on a roullette wheel (7.89%) ... or put another way since we're talking about gambling.... how many of you have played 21 in Vegas? Well... the single deck odds for the dealer to draw to 21 is 7.36% That is slightly better than my adjusted odds for a CC member to get a veranda cabin ~ 6.7%. So - how often does this happen to you in Vegas where the dealer draws to 21? Well... I'd say the ratio of payoff is BETTER on VEGAS roulette then on DCL for a Veranda given the ratio of payoff. IE... the Vegas payoff is 11:1 ... and 1.19% more often while Disney amounts to about 2:1 payoff. SO - gamble more at Vegas - and reserve what YOU WANT on DCL... especially if you're a CC member. Of course.... with Disney if you you are assured of getting something with an 84.5% for a "win" with a catagory 11 or better. And at Vegas when you lose (92.64% of the time with a 3 number combination on roulette) you walk away with nothing but the moments of brief excitement.

Maybe the catagory 12 guarantee "bet" with DCL is not so bad after all - as we always have a fantastic time no matter which catagory we've had in the past!!!! Plus - we DO get decent CC member cabin gifts too as a spiff. That's actually more of a "trophy" then a simple souveneer towel or shoulder bag, eh!!!!

:disrocks:

classicdisney
08-01-2006, 08:50 PM
OK...

At this point we have 1,087 visits to this page... and 45 "votes" reporting something about the sort of cabins that were given off a guaranteed reservation. We assume that most of these were "guaranteed catagory 12" even though 9 and 7 guarantee reservations have been seen.

So what are the odds - in a totally non-scientific - uncertified - and statistically insignificant way?

Well - so far - if you start in a 12 then the odds of getting a catagory ....

12 = 15.5%
11 = 17.7%
10 = 17.7%
9 = 24.4%
8 = 13.3%
7 = 4.4%
6+= 6.7%

Put another way ... the odds for a veranda or better are 11.1%; and for a window = 37.7%; and for an inside cabin that is above a 12 = 35.4%. It looks like it is an 86.5% chance for something better than a catagory 12 -or- better than the level at which you reserved. IE - you reserve a catagory 9 guarantee and GET a "8".

In addition to that - if you're a Cast-Away club repeat cruiser this is how the odds look. Only 1 in 5 of those with a veranda upgrade were CC members. And 6 of 17 receiving a window were CC members. Of course, 9 of 25 receiving an inside cabin assignment were CC members. So - overall - 16 of 45 reporting were Castaway Club members anyways.... which is 35.6%. SO ... having 1 in 5 get a veranda is like having a 20% chance for a V-upgrade if you're a CC member - substantially worse than the average. And getting a window is a 35.3% probability IF you're a CC member - which is consistent with the overall average. AND ... if you're a CC member than your EXPECTION for an INSIDE cabin is 36%... the overall average is 35.6%. So again, this is consistent with the overall average?

I guess inventory control has decided NOT to reward repeat clients with the best upgrades - instead they are focusing subtly on trying to "WOW" a 1st time patrons with better veranda cabins - specificly VERANDAs.

I am mildly disappointed even though I have NOT received my cabin assignment yet. Of course - there remains an ESTIMATED 11.1% chance for a veranda overall. Or as a DIS member... 1 in 15 got a veranda... which is comparable to a 6.7% chance. As a non-DIS member there appears to be a 4 in 30 which is comparable to a 13.3% probability.



SO... aside from all that .... I remain hopeful for a veranda - as the odds are slightly worse then hitting a 3 number combination bet on a roullette wheel (7.89%) ... or put another way since we're talking about gambling.... how many of you have played 21 in Vegas? Well... the single deck odds for the dealer to draw to 21 is 7.36% That is slightly better than my adjusted odds for a CC member to get a veranda cabin ~ 6.7%. So - how often does this happen to you in Vegas where the dealer draws to 21? Well... I'd say the ratio of payoff is BETTER on VEGAS roulette then on DCL for a Veranda given the ratio of payoff. IE... the Vegas payoff is 11:1 ... and 1.19% more often while Disney amounts to about 2:1 payoff. SO - gamble more at Vegas - and reserve what YOU WANT on DCL... especially if you're a CC member. Of course.... with Disney if you you are assured of getting something with an 84.5% for a "win" with a catagory 11 or better. And at Vegas when you lose (92.64% of the time with a 3 number combination on roulette) you walk away with nothing but the moments of brief excitement.

Maybe the catagory 12 guarantee "bet" with DCL is not so bad after all - as we always have a fantastic time no matter which catagory we've had in the past!!!! Plus - we DO get decent CC member cabin gifts too as a spiff. That's actually more of a "trophy" then a simple souveneer towel or shoulder bag, eh!!!!

:disrocks:
GOING ON FIRST CRUISE IN JAN 07. HAVE CAT 12 GUARANTEE SINCE FEB 06. DO YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE TO GET UPGRADED TO A BETTER CABIN THEN SOMEONE WHO RESERVED AFTER YOU. JUST HOPEING FOR SOME OF THAT PIXIE DUST.

cepmom
08-01-2006, 09:32 PM
we booked a gty 12 and were just assigned a cat 11 the other day. I was secretly hoping for a verandah, but I'm happy with the 11 as well. It is just 2 of us, so we could have been put in the 12 also

RubyCam
08-01-2006, 11:29 PM
I booked a CAT 6 Gty in 5/06 for 3 day cruise in 6/06. Myself and my daughter were 1st time cruisers. We got a CAT 6 and we loved our cabin, we would choose it again.

captaincrash
08-02-2006, 06:15 PM
So what are the odds - in a totally non-scientific - uncertified - and statistically insignificant way? We're at 1306 viewings and 51 votes or opions reported... and this is getting statistically significant.

Well - if you start in a 12 then the odds of getting a catagory ....

12 = 17.6%
11 = 21.6%
10 = 17.6%
9 = 23.5%
8 = 11.8%
7 = 3.9%
6+= 5.9%

Put another way ... the odds for a veranda or 5+ catagories are 9.8%; and for a window or 3+ catagories = 35.3%; and for an inside cabin that is above a 12 or +1 or 2 catagories = 39.2%. It looks like it is an 82.4% chance for something better than a catagory 12 -or- better than the level at which you reserved. IE - you reserve a catagory 6 guarantee and GET a "6".

So... now that we have some developing statisitical significance here... the good news simply is that its' not all that bad. Especially with no one voting they has a BAD cabin assignment. Some posted that they went lateral on their guarantee assignment by buying an upgrade and new location.

I'm still waiting for my guarantee 12 assignment - and as such - I am hoping DCL will not find a quad cat 12 for me INSIDE the engine room. We've never booked a guarantee cabin before (that I can recall... sometimes I think I might be having a "senior moment" sometimes). At any rate - with 1300 visits and 51 responses I think we have a working impression of what goes on. Maybe if we get some interesting changes in the total votes I'll resummarize this - otherwise I think it's time to let this thread fade.

Cheers everyone - and thank you for your contributions, curiosity and interest.

Bloody Captain pirate: Crash

ReallyFunMom
08-03-2006, 01:04 PM
We booked Cat 12 GTY and got a Cat 11. Not a "real" upgrade, we are party of 4 so there wasn't a choice.

DisneyGirlTinkerbell
08-09-2006, 12:02 AM
Well, we got the bad news yesterday. After five DCL cruises, we have NEVER received an upgrade:guilty: ! We booked on the 10 night S. Caribb., through a TA, over a year ago! She was sure our cat. 12 gty would be at least an 11.

I'm glad my kids are growing up now and we won't do Disney anymore paying these ridiculous prices when they don't even appreciate all the thousands of dollars I've given them over the years. I was considering the Med cruise for next summer, but no way on Disney now. I'm going for RCL...I'll be a new customer to them. Perhaps I'll get an upgrade;) !

mruhaak
08-09-2006, 09:44 AM
DisneygirlTinkerbell-
So sorry to hear you didn't get an upgrade!! We got one on our 3 night in January as first time cruisers from 12 to 9. We had booked 2 cabins for ourself and mother and grandmother and we both got the same upgrade. I felt very fortunate indeed. Maybe the time of year has to do with it? It was the week AFTER new year's.

I would be interested in hearing all about your 10 day cruise though! I've never cruised more than 5 days. Sounds glorious!! I'm sure you will have a wonderful time anyway... will be watching for your trip report when you return.

By the way I have cruised (sans kids) with RCL on Voyager of the Seas and it was awesome... Ours boys are really small right now so I'd prefer to do Disney if we can for our next cruise in a couple years. Hope I can afford it!

GoofyGuy777
08-09-2006, 10:04 AM
Well, we got the bad news yesterday. After five DCL cruises, we have NEVER received an upgrade:guilty: ! We booked on the 10 night S. Caribb., through a TA, over a year ago! She was sure our cat. 12 gty would be at least an 11.

I'm glad my kids are growing up now and we won't do Disney anymore paying these ridiculous prices when they don't even appreciate all the thousands of dollars I've given them over the years. I was considering the Med cruise for next summer, but no way on Disney now. I'm going for RCL...I'll be a new customer to them. Perhaps I'll get an upgrade;) !

Don't give up hope.....I am on the same cruise as you and got no upgrade either. I just checked the DCL website and noticed the the Cat 12 are availible again. This might be good news for us as they are trying to fill an empty ship. :confused3

Good luck to the both of us getting surprise upgrades at the port

Steve

S.S.Oceanlover
08-09-2006, 11:33 AM
Don't give up hope.....I am on the same cruise as you and got no upgrade either. I just checked the DCL website and noticed the the Cat 12 are availible again. This might be good news for us as they are trying to fill an empty ship. :confused3

Good luck to the both of us getting surprise upgrades at the port

Steve

Steve,
How does this upgrade at the port work?? Very curious. We are in a cat 11 handicapped room. Do the 2 bathroom cabins start in cat 10?

Bill

stampinshauna
08-09-2006, 11:51 AM
We had a cat 12 booked for 2 cruises, both were booked through our local TA:

1st cruise ever we booked in April 2004 for Oct 2004, received a cat 11 (5133) and loved the location.

2nd cruise we booked in Feb 2005 for Oct 2005 and received a cat 9 (2074) and enjoyed this location as well.

GoofyGuy777
08-09-2006, 12:03 PM
Steve,
How does this upgrade at the port work?? Very curious. We are in a cat 11 handicapped room. Do the 2 bathroom cabins start in cat 10?

Bill

Hi Bill,

You could call DCL and see if they can switch to another Cat.11? The split bathrooms start at cat 10.

One of two things can happen when you go to port:

1) A surprise upgrade is given to you at no cost

2) You can ask if there are any upgrades available?
-at this time either you will be quoted a price for an upgrade or given one if you are very lucky.
-or you will be directed to the managers desk where you can inquire on the cost for an upgrade.

Hope this helps you. Good Luck!!!

Steve

S.S.Oceanlover
08-09-2006, 12:16 PM
Hi Bill,

You could call DCL and see if they can switch to another Cat.11? The split bathrooms start at cat 10.

One of two things can happen when you go to port:

1) A surprise upgrade is given to you at no cost

2) You can ask if there are any upgrades available?
-at this time either you will be quoted a price for an upgrade or given one if you are very lucky.
-or you will be directed to the managers desk where you can inquire on the cost for an upgrade.

Hope this helps you. Good Luck!!!

Steve


Steve,
Yes that is very helpful! I appreciate the info. I heard you could get changed all the way up to the time you are getting on the ship. I keep checking every day. I'll ask when checking in if we don't get changed before getting on the ship. It doesn't hurt to ask right? In the end we'll be very happy in the cabin we were assigned if all else fails.

Thanks again
Bill

PoohJen
08-10-2006, 12:30 PM
Great poll, Cap'n!!!

anyone else out there with a vote to cast? :thumbsup2

captaincrash
08-10-2006, 11:22 PM
So what are the odds - in a totally non-scientific - uncertified - and statistically insignificant way? We're at 1804 viewings and 61 votes or opions reported... and this is getting statistically significant.

Well - if you start in a 12 then the odds of getting a catagory ....

12 = 16.4%
11 = 21.3%
10 = 16.4%
9 = 26.2%
8 = 9.8%
7 = 3.3%
6+= 6.6%

Put another way ... the odds for a veranda or 5+ catagories are 9.9%; and for a window or 3+ catagories = 36.0%; and for an inside cabin that is above a 12 or +1 or 2 catagories = 37.7%. It looks like it is an 83.6% chance for something better than a catagory 12 -or- better than the level at which you reserved. IE - you reserve a catagory 6 guarantee and GET a "6".

ALSO... here is the data if YOU are a repeat customer (Castaway Club) and indicated so...

Cat 12 .... 5 of 10 were CC (50%)
Cat 11 .... 5 of 13 were CC (38.5%)
Cat 10 .... 3 of 10 were CC (30%) split bath
Cat 9 .... 4 of 16 were CC (25%) window
Cat 8 .... 3 of 6 were CC (50%)
Cat 7 .... 1 of 2 were CC (50%) veranda
Cat 6+ ... 0 of 4 were CC ( 0% )

Only 21 of 61 who voted what they were assigned AND admitted they were CC means that among the whole voting group ~ 34.4% were CC members. SO... if any given catagory had more then 34.4% with CC members than this was an above average possibility. IE... in a catagory 9, 10 or 6+ we had a lower than average representation of CC members. While in catagories 12, 11, 8 and 7 we had an above average representation of CC members.

Or put another way.... the 21 CC members seem to have the following probabilities for an cabin assignment.... and the 40 non-CC members enjoy the following probabilities:

Castaway Club Non-Castaway Club

Cat 12 ... 23.8% Cat 12 ... 12.5%
Cat 11 ... 23.8% Cat 11 ... 20.0%
Cat 10 ... 14.3% Cat 10 ... 17.5%
Cat 9 ... 14.3% Cat 9 ... 10.0%
Cat 8 ... 14.3% Cat 8 ... 7.5%
Cat 7 ... 4.8% Cat 7 ... 2.5%
Cat 6+ ... 0% Cat 6+ ...10.0%

Comparing the odds for various cabin catagories broken out for CC and non-CC members shows that for a....

catagory 12 ... a CC member is 11.3% more likely to get this than non-CC
catagory 11 ... a CC member is 3.8% more likely to get this than non-CC
catagory 10 ... a CC member is 3.2% LESS likely to get this than non-CC
catagory 9 ... a CC member is 4.3% LESS likely to get this than non-CC
catagory 8 ... a CC member is 7.2% more likely to get this than non-CC
catagory 7 ... a CC member is 2.3% more likely to get this than non-CC
catagory 6+... a CC member is 100% LESS likely to get this than non-CC

I'm not very impressed by the catagory 12 and 6+ implications for CC members. Of course ... this is all fairly unscientific and more educated guess then science.

At least we now have some developing statisitical significance and "indication" here... and the good news simply is that its' not all that bad. Especially with no one voting they has a BAD cabin assignment. Some posted that they went lateral on their guarantee assignment by buying an upgrade and new location. AND if you're a CC member there is a 76.2% chance of getting better than a catagory 12 assignment. :thumbsup2 And of course, non-CC members can look forward to an 87.5% chance for a catgory 11 or better! :confused3 Loyalty pays....?

I'm still waiting for my guarantee 12 assignment (less than 5 weeks before my embarkation)- and as such - I am hoping DCL will not find a quad cat 12 for me INSIDE the engine room with a coal shovel. We've never booked a guarantee cabin before (that I can recall... sometimes I think I might be having a "senior moment" sometimes). At any rate - with 1800+ visits and 61 responses I think we have a working impression of what goes on. Maybe if we get some interesting changes in the total votes I'll resummarize this - otherwise I think it's time to let this thread fade.

BTW... for giving up cabin location selection I estimate we would save $1100+ if we only get a catagory 11. Which is generally what I think is most likely given we are a party of 4. Even if we get a 12 we save a little $. So - we really don't LOSE. And we booked fairly recently. I would of course be very pleasantly surprised IF we got a window .... or dare I dream ... a veranda. I see no hope for better than a catagory 7 as a CC member. Sigh.... I do wish loyalty paid with DCL... but sadly it does not seem so. If any DCL folks are seeing this... it would do well to rebalance the distribution of cabins to give your loyal patrons who have likely spent 10,000+ or 10s of 1000s with the Mouse. Many of could be LIFETIME fans... and we do appredciate all tokens of affection for our patronage - like the nice welcome gifts for CC folks in the cabin. :thumbsup2

It would be nice if every sailing DCL ran a SPECIAL FREE lottery among repeat patrons (like me) - and the lucky winner got a FREE sailing! But I suspect this is not very likely to happen ... especially if the top tier of cabins are taken by repeat patrons! But it IS a wild eyed notion I thought I'd aire! Just in case a decision maker is looking and feels it is "doable"! Just think of the FREE BUZZ you'd generate !!! That would be way out of porportion to the lost revenue. In fact ... if the promotion brought in 2 new patrons for the 1 given away on an other-wise less than 100% full sailing then it is a net GAIN for the line. And if we booked a cheap cabin then we would have a low dollar payout... and if we booked a high dollar cabin then our payout would be larger! That seems fair to me!!! And you'd give us all something to talk about on the DIS and Cruise Critic! To say nothing of all the FREE MEDIA BUZZ and PARK BUZZ you'd generate ... and the mad scramble of past patrons returning to DCL!!!! :rolleyes: What do ya say????

Cheers everyone - and thank you for your contributions, curiosity and interest.

Bloody Captain pirate: Crash

logan1_2000
08-11-2006, 09:26 AM
I did not initally see a way to indicate that I booked a Cat. 8 GTY and got a Cat. 5. The choices all presume a cat. 12 GTY was booked until the parenthetical, and I confess I did not read that far. So I was only able to vote that I was a CC member, that our location was ok (though we hated the solid walled verandah) and that we used a TA. So statistically, add one more +3 category result.

wendyl
08-11-2006, 12:51 PM
I have not yet booked out cruise for March, so cannot add to your survey...but just want to say that I'm DROOLING over these statistics as I just finished teaching a Prob. & Stats class (final exam was today) -- this would have been a great in-class study!!

The Great Baboo
08-11-2006, 12:54 PM
What is a GTY cabin? We just booked our 1st cruise w/ DU and since we requested connecting staterooms, we have cabins already assigned to us = cat.8 #6024 & 6026.....is there a chance we coould get better connecting cabins when we pay the cruise off? :teeth:

The Great Baboo
08-11-2006, 01:43 PM
bump :teeth:

captaincrash
08-11-2006, 05:04 PM
I did not initally see a way to indicate that I booked a Cat. 8 GTY and got a Cat. 5. The choices all presume a cat. 12 GTY was booked until the parenthetical, and I confess I did not read that far. So I was only able to vote that I was a CC member, that our location was ok (though we hated the solid walled verandah) and that we used a TA. So statistically, add one more +3 category result.

OK...

... I'll keep your results in mind the next time I run a summary. I really should have mentioned that this is not purely a series of cat 12 comparisons... but a number of catagory jumped Query. Earlier summaries mentioned this - and I have grown lazy and copied the most recent summary and plugged in new numbes and a little new commentary.


I'll try to be more careful next time. As I am going to get MY cabin assignment some day soon - and when I do I'll contribute my vote.

Anyone who believes in faries - say a little prayer for a fellow DIS enthusiast who would like to get better than an inside assignment on their catagory 12 guarantee.

In advance - thanks for humoring me! :rolleyes1

captaincrash
08-18-2006, 11:03 PM
Anymore votes? I got a catagory 11 and I'm a 4 time repeat patron. We never tried one of these guarantee reservations before and our sailing is still selling wide open with lots of space and 30 days to go. Oh yeah... I would consider my location to be fairly bad. Far forward and high. However, technically we saved $1100 to $750 depending on whether you apply the rebooking discount we had which would have been good for a catagory 11 or better. Folks w/o a rebooking discount would have saved a true $1100. And $1100 is about 25% which is considerable on a quad with a 2 and 5 year old. $750 is more like 18% in savings.

At any rate... final votes please and I'll run a last summary since we got our assignment. The only change left is if we get reassigned prior to embarkation - as I've heard of many others who HAVE had 2nd reassignments - even at the terminal!

:confused3

mruhaak
08-19-2006, 03:16 PM
Well good luck to you Captaincrash!

Wherever you end up on the ship I'm totally jealous! I'm at home with a newborn and will be unable to cruise for a couple years!

Have fun!

gabbysmom04
08-19-2006, 06:06 PM
I booked a gty 12 for a family of four for the 11 night cruise. I just checked online and have a cat 11 room. Has anyone had a cat upgrade after getting a room assignment? Captaincrash, keep checking for your room mine just went up a few days ago! See you on the ship! :sunny:

captaincrash
09-07-2006, 12:02 AM
Hi Bill,

You could call DCL and see if they can switch to another Cat.11? The split bathrooms start at cat 10.

One of two things can happen when you go to port:

1) A surprise upgrade is given to you at no cost

2) You can ask if there are any upgrades available?
-at this time either you will be quoted a price for an upgrade or given one if you are very lucky.
-or you will be directed to the managers desk where you can inquire on the cost for an upgrade.

Hope this helps you. Good Luck!!!

Steve

I am going to try calling DCL tomorrow to try switching my location! What a great idea! Even it it does not work - thanks!

In the mean while - any more contributions from anyone? If YOU booked a guarantee rate - vote accordingly on all the questions that apply to you.

Cheers!

http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/38/news2/12524_9.jpg

WldWcnWmn
09-07-2006, 12:15 AM
I booked a Cat 12 and we got the lengthwise room 6507 (Cat11) I haven't been in a lengthwise room yet, so I am looking forward (it's forward, HA HA) to the new room design (new to us, it's always been there) :cool1:

captaincrash
09-07-2006, 01:35 AM
I booked a Cat 12 and we got the lengthwise room 6507 (Cat11) I haven't been in a lengthwise room yet, so I am looking forward (it's forward, HA HA) to the new room design (new to us, it's always been there) :cool1:

http://www.vacationstogo.com/cruiseships/deckplans/Disney/DisneyMagic/6.Deck%206.gif

Your cabin is an interesting one. It has a corridor running BEHIND it to serve some other pool souls in our identical type of cat 11 cabins. So, I would also like to say your cabin is about 20-30 feet further back than ours .. which is not enough to make a difference on a ship the length of several football fields - so welcome to the roller coaster ride! LOL!

http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/38/news2/12524_5.jpg

Donna2105
09-07-2006, 10:04 AM
What is a GTY cabin? We just booked our 1st cruise w/ DU and since we requested connecting staterooms, we have cabins already assigned to us = cat.8 #6024 & 6026.....is there a chance we coould get better connecting cabins when we pay the cruise off? :teeth:

I want to know what a GTY cabin is too. We have 2 connecting cat 10.

captaincrash
09-09-2006, 04:09 AM
I want to know what a GTY cabin is too. We have 2 connecting cat 10.

This is a GUARANTEED CATAGORY (number 12-3). FOr example... you might look at a regular catagory 9 for say $2500. And Disney will offer a GUARANTEE 9 for say $2000. You save $500 because you are allowing Disney to put you into ANY cabin they choose that is at least a catagory 9 or BETTER.

No - typically, they only offer catagory 12 guarantee rates, but ocassionally you will see a window guarantee of cat 9; or you might see a vernada guarantee of say catagory 7. The hazard of doing this is you might get a less desirable location - like under or near a dance floor - or far forward or rear-ward where ships' motion is more pronounced in high seas - thus exposing your party to potential sea-sickness. BUT ALSO, this method is a sure fire way to potentially snag some huge bargains. It's a gamble. Except - there are no cabins in catagory 12 that take 4 (QUAD) and DCL allow folks to book a guaranteed cat 12 level. Thus - when booked a cat 12 guarantee I KNEW I would save a minimum of $750-1100. It's only $750 for me because I already had a 10% rebooking discount for booking while ON a sailing. However, most folks do NOT have a rebooking discount - so their savings would indeed be $1100 if they also got an 11.

Makes sense?

captaincrash
09-09-2006, 07:08 PM
http://www.offthemarkcartoons.com/cartoons/2002-12-30.gif

News you can use... MAYBE...

We called yesterday about the possibility of swapping our assigned 11 for another 11 elsewhere on the ship. I already knew the DCL web site showed no availability on quads except for 9-6-4... and triples for 12-4. We needed a quad. SO I called with the HOPE something would be available.

They told me - they could offer me a cayagory 9 for only $220 more. I paused and thought... "wait a minute, a catagory 9 is $2,000 more than what I paid for the 12 guarantee".... so I asked - is that the per person cost - and the rep said "NO, it is the total cost for the switch". So I said - I'll TAKE it!

Well... that's not the end of the story... he kept me on the line for more than 10 minutes and kept returning to say - "hold on, I'm trying to get this settled" repeatedly. And as it turns out they had that $220 price coming up over and over agin as available and OK but "inventory control" was not approving it as they wanted $975 for the switch. A veranda was $1300 more. Well... I know how these things work as we draw towards the end. And buying in ADvanCE is usually a higher price - and the $220 was the sort of price we might see at the pier. I said so much to the rep and he quickly agreed. But he could NOT give me the catagory 9 (in a great location on the ship - quiet with no obvious noise threats adjacent). So I asked for a supervisor.

The supervisor seemed to be ready for an earfull from me - but I am simply NOT that sort of abrasive complainer - but I am tenacious. I held the supervisor on the line several minutes walking through the situation and my POV as well as what I suspected was theirs - and in the end - GOT NOTHING. Oh well... the last thing I asked for was possible flagging for consideration for a cabin change in the days ahead. AND that I would be happy to pay if not $1000 or so. We parted on fair terms.

SO - I suspect they had pier side upgrade pricing tiers on the screen as $220 is clearly NOT NORMAL with a few days to go. It is routine to gouge on pricing in the final days before sailing - and then in the final hours to run a fire sale to raise revenue from those alreading boarding with their unsold capacity. Seems pretty simple, eh?

I am again hoping for a last minute or hour courtesy upgrade. A little more so now that I have been disappointed by DCL inventory control and their reservation staff. I think I'll be cjecking again monday and tuesday so they will be less likely to forget about me and my mild disappointment.

NOTE - we're really not BITTER - just mildly disappointed. Maybe something nice will still come of it in the days to come. We DO love the "Mouse".

Oh well.... :confused3

http://home.comcast.net/~toolnin240sx/disappointed-bongo.jpg

I will recover - and have a WOnderful cruise either way... Yaaa HOOOO!!!

captaincrash
09-12-2006, 05:42 AM
Well... 5 days to go and no upgrade.... Oh well...

At least I got a good hotel through Hotwire - the 3 star Wingate by MCO for $46 + $12 in fees. Booking off hotwire for the same property and date starts at $78 + taxes of maybe $8. SO I estimate my rate totals $58 versus $86 for a potential $28 savings. This is about 1/3rd off the best internet rate outside of Hotwire.

Now if I could only get a better cabin on the Wonder..... :confused3


114/2836

nextcruz
09-12-2006, 08:07 AM
Now if I could only get a better cabin on the Wonder..... :confused3



But, Captaincrash - You DID get a better cabin on the Wonder! You paid for a 12, and you already have an 11! We were thrilled to be sailing with a $1400 FREE upgrade in July - window or not!!

Have a great cruise!! Remember - Expect nothing, then anything you get is more than you expected!!! :sunny:

poohfriend
09-12-2006, 08:14 AM
...you never know.

Or maybe there will be a great upgrade available to you at the port.

I really think once you get there, it won't matter. :banana: You're going on a DIsney cruise.

Thanks for your hard work in trying to make a little sense out of 12 gty and upgrades. I've enjoyed the thread!

:cool1:

Enjoy your cruise!

jdybnsn
09-12-2006, 11:03 AM
Captain crash - I'm sending you a bit of pixie dust to help you get an upgrade or a really good deal at the pier ;

:wizard: :tinker: pixiedust: :tinker: pixiedust: :wizard:

You have put a fantastic thread together - you deserve a good holiday now ...enjoy ! :yay:

jenjen3574
09-12-2006, 11:19 AM
You know, we just booked a Cat. 6 for a 3-day in May 2007 on the DCL website. I tried to pick a specific stateroom, but the only option available to me was GTY. So we are booked for a Cat. 6 GTY. I'm new to the DIS and this thread has been very enlightening about what that actually means. Thanks!

So now I have to wait all the way til late April to find out where we are placed. I hope it isn't a bad location! Anyone know why they might be locking out the room choices for that category so early? I booked mid August 2006 for May 6, 2007. Is it conceivable that the category 6 are filling up enough that they want to sell off the few that are in the less desirable spots at GTY?

captaincrash
09-12-2006, 11:29 PM
Thanks everyone for your thoughts...

... and YES, I know I got an 11 when i booked a guarantee 12. BUT for a quad that WAS the minimum I could have gotten. And I know my family will have a great time from now (precruise) all the way through next year as we look back on the old pictures. We know...

BUT as you can all tell from MY posture on this - that I sort of wanted either a better catagory IF it was a less then optimal location.... or I'd be tolerant of an 11 in a better location. SO - I am just "OK" with how it is so far. And being offerred a window for $220 only to have it denied - was a tease. And you can ask my spouse - I am not partial to being teased by anyone (except her :thumbsup2 ). So - on the serious side - I still am saving $750 against my on board rebooking discount - and otherwise it would have represented an $1100 savings. Nothing to sneeze at. Shoot - the $1100 is enough to sail for 4 nites with my family of 4 on Carnival from Los Angeles in the off season (January).

BUT at any rate..... trust me .... I'm a happy guy just to be going - even if it were in the engine room with a coal shovel (for me).....


You know, we just booked a Cat. 6 for a 3-day in May 2007 on the DCL website. I tried to pick a specific stateroom, but the only option available to me was GTY. So we are booked for a Cat. 6 GTY. I'm new to the DIS and this thread has been very enlightening about what that actually means. Thanks!

So now I have to wait all the way til late April to find out where we are placed. I hope it isn't a bad location! Anyone know why they might be locking out the room choices for that category so early? I booked mid August 2006 for May 6, 2007. Is it conceivable that the category 6 are filling up enough that they want to sell off the few that are in the less desirable spots at GTY?

Well...

for what a cat 6 costs I would not tolerate a marginal cabin location. Now - a guarantee 6 should have been several 100 less then a regular assigned 6. Now - what might be undesirable in location without specifying any cabin numbers? Anything in the extreme far forward area for one as these ar esubject to ships motion and hence can get you seasick. Aside from that - I would not want anything adjacent to; below or above a dance floor - like the Rockin Bar on the Magic! Anything else - is a case by case consideration.

But - you might just trade a bad location for a cabin catagory bump to say a 5 or 4?

OK... I gotta run now...

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Thanks everyone for the compliments and encouraging words! DCL always delivers a kick in the pants memorable experience! How can I possibly be seriously glum? I am NOT! I'm a happy patron - no two ways about it!

captaincrash
10-13-2006, 11:56 PM
OK...

Here we go with a summary of the results so far...

We've had 3,190 viewings, 55 postings (many from me) and 119 votes on the poll... plus a couple replies that were written in (no votes representing). I have carefully reread the thread and where anyone talked about their assignment results I cross checked if they voted. I have noted 5 additions to the tally of 87 catagory assignment "votes" and 2 additions to the secondary questions. This includes the 2nd cabin result for the friends that had a matching upgrade to 11 as SSOceanLover; PoohsMum with the cat 4 score as a 1st timer and cat 10 as CC; RubyCAM as 1st timers getting a 0 cat shift; Plus I've noted the changes in Castaway status for Stampinshauna where the cat 11 was as a 1st time cruiser and the 9 was as a CC member. The adjusted results are as follows:



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So what are the odds - in a totally non-scientific - uncertified - and statistically insignificant way? We're at 3,109 viewings and 119 contributors and 87 catagory votes plus 5 "catagory vote adjustments" reported... and this is getting statistically meaningful at 92 cabin votes.

Well - if you start in a 12 then the odds of getting a catagory OR the odds of gaining the following catagory improvements are....

12 (+0) = 16.30%
11 (+1) = 21.74%
10 (+2) = 20.65%
9 (+3) = 26.09%
8 (+4) = 7.61%
7 (+5) = 2.17%
6+(6+)= 5.43%

Total accounted for = 99.99%

Put another way ... the odds for a veranda or 5+ catagories are 7.60%; and for a window or 3 or 4 catagories = 33.70%; and for an inside cabin that is above a 12 or +1 or 2 catagories = 43.39%. It looks like it is an 83.7% chance for something better than a catagory 12 -or- better than the level at which you reserved. IE - you reserve a catagory 6 guarantee and GET a "7" or higher.

ALSO... here is the data if YOU are a repeat customer (Castaway Club) and indicated so...

Cat 12 .... 7 of 15 were CC (46.67%)
Cat 11 .... 9 of 20 were CC (45.00%)
Cat 10 ....10 of 19 were CC (52.63%) split bath
Cat 9 ....10 of 24 were CC (41.67%) window
Cat 8 .... 3 of 7 were CC (42.86%)
Cat 7 .... 1 of 2 were CC (50.00%) veranda
Cat 6+ ... 0 of 5 were CC ( 0% )

Only 40 of 92 who voted what they were assigned AND admitted they were CC means that among the whole voting group ~ 43.48% were CC members. SO... if any given catagory had more then 43.48% with CC members than this was an above average possibility. IE... in a catagory 9, 8 and especially in 6 or better we had a lower than average representation of CC members. While in catagories 12, 11, 10 and 7 we had an above average representation of CC members.

Or put another way.... the 40 CC members seem to have the following probabilities for an cabin assignment.... and the 52 non-CC members enjoy the following probabilities:

Castaway Club Non-Castaway Club

Cat 12 ... 17.50% Cat 12 ... 15.38%
Cat 11 ... 22.50% Cat 11 ... 21.15%
Cat 10 ... 25.00% Cat 10 ... 17.31%
Cat 9 ... 25.00% Cat 9 ... 26.92%
Cat 8 ... 7.50% Cat 8 ... 7.70%
Cat 7 ... 2.50% Cat 7 ... 1.92%
Cat 6+ ... 0% Cat 6+ ... 9.62%

Comparing the odds for various cabin catagories broken out for CC and non-CC members shows that for a....

catagory 12 ... a CC member is 2.12%+ and 13.78% more likely to get this than non-CC
catagory 11 ... a CC member is 1.35%+ and 6.38% more likely to get this than non-CC
catagory 10 ... a CC member is 7.69%+ and 44.43% more likely to get this than non-CC
catagory 9 ... a CC member is -1.92% and 7.13% less likely to get this than non-CC
catagory 8 ... a CC member is -0.20% and 2.60% LESS likely to get this than non-CC
catagory 7 ... a CC member is -0.58% and 30.20% LESS likely to get this than non-CC
catagory 6+... a CC member is 100% LESS likely to get this than non-CC

I'm not very impressed by the catagory 6+ implications for CC members. Of course ... this is all fairly unscientific and more educated guess then science.

At least we now have some developing statisitical significance and "indication" here... and the good news simply is that its' not all that bad. Especially with FOUR of 92 DIS folks voting they has a BAD cabin assignment. That translates into a 4.34% of getting an undesirable cabin assignment. As a result some folks posted that they went lateral on their guarantee assignment by buying an upgrade and new location. AND if you're a CC member there is an 83.50% chance of getting better than a catagory 12 assignment. :thumbsup2 And of course, non-CC members can look forward to an 84.62% chance for a catgory 11 or better! PLUS the 1st timers have the ONLY chance for a 6+ catagory or veranda assignment from 12 guarantee! :confused3 Loyalty pays....? Not quite!



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Our recent September sailing resulted in a catagory 11 assignment with no pier-side upgrade opportunities in spite of a very lightly populated ship. We heard that there were less then 300 kids and about 2000 people aboard. Compare that to the PAX load coming abopard after our sailing with supposedly 2600 PAX!

We've never booked a guarantee cabin before (that I can recall... sometimes I think I might be having a "senior moment" sometimes). At any rate - with 3,109 visits and 125 responses I think we have a working impression of what goes on. Maybe if we get some interesting changes in the total votes I'll resummarize this - otherwise I think it's time to let this thread fade.

BTW... for giving up cabin location selection I estimate we saved $1100+ as we only got a catagory 11. Which is the minimum they could have given us as we are a party of 4. So - we really were guaranteed a winning opportunity here. And we booked fairly close to the actual sailing date (90 days out). I would have been very pleasantly surprised IF we had gotten a window .... or dare I dream ... a veranda. I see no hope for better than a catagory 7 as a CC member though as no CC member reports ever having received such an upgrade. Sigh.... I do wish loyalty paid with DCL... but sadly it does not seem so. If any DCL folks are seeing this... it would do well to rebalance the distribution of cabins to give your loyal patrons who have likely spent 10,000+ or 10s of 1000s with the Mouse. Many of us could be LIFETIME fans... and we do appredciate all tokens of affection for our patronage - like the nice welcome gifts for CC folks in the cabin. :thumbsup2

OH well... that's how it goes... and lkike they tell the kids in Pre-school: "Ya get what Ya get and don't throw a fit".... or so my 5 year old quips every now and then!

kkmcan
10-14-2006, 09:13 AM
Ok, I just voted. We booked gty 12 and got a category 10 just a few days ago for our Nov. 12th sailing. Pretty happy with that!

We reserved almost 16 months ago so we got an awesome deal. If you compare the amount we paid versus the amout is costs to book a cat. 10 right now we saved $1400!! Amazing!

So glad we got the split bath. Room 2633. Seems to be an okay location. We might hear a few noises but who cares- this is our first cruise!!!

"Got Disney"
10-14-2006, 06:30 PM
When you get a gty that means that you will get "that catagory" or better...so if you state a cat of 6 you will not be booted down the only way to go is up.
Robin :)

captaincrash
10-16-2006, 08:06 AM
When you get a gty that means that you will get "that catagory" or better...so if you state a cat of 6 you will not be booted down the only way to go is up.
Robin :)

Correct, however for some folks the cabin LOCATION is just as important as the CATAGORY. And with a guarantee rate you are giving up the power of choice on location. There are cabins that are considered quite noisey, distant or subject to greater ships motion. If any of these considerations is a concern then a guarantee may not be the way to go. My spouse is a little particular about location - and yet we tried it this past sailing (1st time we did so in 16 sailings). I would say, yeah we saved $750 with an 11... and most folks would have saved $1100 with this same cabin except we had a rebooking discount of 10% which was good on an 11 but not a 12... hence the $350 difference... but our cabin location was not all that great. I would call it BAD in fact. It was way forward to the extreme and although it was perfectly quiet - we we concerned with ships' motion and fortunately - on the 11 days embarked we had a managable situation. The seas were mostly smooth and we were happy to have saved $750 net. Our next two sailings now booked are not guarantee rates though (one Disney and the other not). :confused3

If I were you though and location was not an issue - then the guarantee rate is a great way to "gamble" with a DCL ship that has no casino! And the odds of losing are low or ZERO. IE, losing means booking a 12 Gty and getting a bad 12. I think there are NO BAD 12 cabins. They're all aft - and if so that is OK for motion. Noise is another issue - but I think it's OK aft ... except for engine vibration. All the major noise issues (Discos, kids clubs) are clustered forward I think. We've only has personal experience with the Rockin Bar Disco as a serious disturbance to our cabin.

I say go for it - gamble a little and gaining anything better then a 12 means "winning" 100s if not a 1000+ in savings! AND if you're a 1st time patron then the odds seem to favor you getting a BETTER assignment. DCL apparently uses guarantee rates to hook a new patron into repeating with a spiff off a guarantee!

4 mickey
10-16-2006, 08:26 AM
Hi
IF I understand right ( nor I'm I a bit slow lol..lol..).
For our coming cruise feb 07 we have a cat6 deck 6 don't quite remember the number we got all that number of deck , room number ....while booking on board at the DCL reservation desk does this mean I still might get upgraded to another categorie or is it sure I'll keep this one , anyway it would be fine since I notice when I booked that I'll be right across a laundry room ( cvould be practical ) or if the upgrade it'll be at least a cat 5 or 4 could be good .

captaincrash
10-16-2006, 12:53 PM
Hi
IF I understand right ( nor I'm I a bit slow lol..lol..).
For our coming cruise feb 07 we have a cat6 deck 6 don't quite remember the number we got all that number of deck , room number ....while booking on board at the DCL reservation desk does this mean I still might get upgraded to another category or is it sure I'll keep this one , anyway it would be fine since I notice when I booked that I'll be right across a laundry room ( cvould be practical ) or if the upgrade it'll be at least a cat 5 or 4 could be good .

Well,
I'm no authority but as I understand it you've got a regular cabin assignment located across from a laundry room. Not a catagory 6 gurantee reservation. So you are very unlikely to get a cabin change.

Normally, the idea is that a guarantee rate is LOWER COST then the level it is made at compared to an assignment. IE, If you have a cat 6 double assignment at $4500 then - if available - a catagory 6 GUARANTEE rate should be perhaps $4100 or so. And you are assured of getting a catagory 6 or better. Thus - you'd be saving an minimum $400 in my example! However, there is no such thing as a free lunch because you are surrentdering the power of choice over the LOCATION of the cabin! And maybe they'd assign you (most likely) the LAST catagory 6 or 7 to sell on the ship... one that is right under the engines or nearest to some other noisey spot... or it might be the furthest forward veranda 6 or 7!

NOw... not everyone may look upon the furtherst forward cabin as least desirable. Some folks might LIKE the spot with he MOST potential ships motion. Who knows?

SO... might you still get an upgrade - well, anything IS possible - but in thoery all of the guarantee reservations will have to be filled. Then DCL would have to select YOU for a free upgrade. And I believe DCL does NOT have a practice of doing free upgrades in significant volume. They do just fine making people PAY for their catagories... and they aparently have decided there's more to gain in not shuffling everyone upwards in the catagories free when space is available. Certainly, I do not see any pattern of staging wholesale benefits of huge significance for repeat patrons. Not to say I don't appreciate the gifts (pins, lanyards, beach towels, bags, cocktail parties, and opportunity for an on-board rebooking discount with cabin credit, etc..). I do - and I repeat voyages with the Mouse because they really do such a good job!

I do believe other cruise lines have been more liberal with handing out free upgrades. I've had about 25% of my non- DCL sailings upgraded at no cost. Once I got bumped from a window to the largest penhouse usite on the ship ... FREE!!! And my most modest bump was from an inside to a window... a savings of about a hundred or two. Any way you slice it - something for nothing is always nice - and I have not figured out any pattern other then what I've posted about. :rolleyes:

Hope this helped....

MrJimmyDale
10-17-2006, 11:25 PM
I have GTY12 11/19 Wonder.........Wish me luck
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captaincrash
10-19-2006, 11:15 PM
I have GTY12 11/19 Wonder.........Wish me luck
:thumbsup2

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You'll get a good assignment... I can see it comin' in the cards!!!

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MrJimmyDale
10-20-2006, 10:47 PM
1st time cruiser but no upgrade......rooms 2629 and 2631....aft and close to the elevators
(I'll sleep on an intertube pulled behing the boat....just let me on!!!) :banana:

captaincrash
10-25-2006, 04:40 AM
1st time cruiser but no upgrade......rooms 2629 and 2631....aft and close to the elevators
(I'll sleep on an intertube pulled behing the boat....just let me on!!!) :banana:

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Looks like Homer would take an inner tube too!

captaincrash
10-25-2006, 09:35 PM
Ok, I just voted. We booked gty 12 and got a category 10 just a few days ago for our Nov. 12th sailing. Pretty happy with that!

We reserved almost 16 months ago so we got an awesome deal. If you compare the amount we paid versus the amout is costs to book a cat. 10 right now we saved $1400!! Amazing!

So glad we got the split bath. Room 2633. Seems to be an okay location. We might hear a few noises but who cares- this is our first cruise!!!

That's nice kkmcan ... a $1400 savings for advance booking and a catagory 10 assignment! Nice score! :thumbsup2

And, do we have any more votes or contributions as to what folks got on their guarantee assignments? We've had so many new votes I figure it's worth while to run another tally/summary in a week or two.

cutie pie
10-30-2006, 10:21 AM
Has anyone else got their assignment?

klarlee
10-30-2006, 09:44 PM
It's my first DCL cruise, and I booked a GTY 12 for 4 people, knowing they don't exist, so an automatic Cat. 11 upgrade was the worst I'd get. Well...I received a Cat. 9 (2520)!!! Yippee!!! It's forward, under Diversions. AND...I have adjoining rooms with my sister-in-law! :cool1:

disjest8
10-31-2006, 06:33 AM
klarlee,

That is an awesome upgrade. :banana: Congratulations!

Do you mind posting which cruise are you sailing on? Regardless, you all are going to have a great time :sunny:

-Kristi

klarlee
10-31-2006, 03:02 PM
klarlee,

That is an awesome upgrade. :banana: Congratulations!

Do you mind posting which cruise are you sailing on? Regardless, you all are going to have a great time :sunny:

-Kristi
We're on the 11/30, 3-night Wonder. The count-down has begun...less than a month! :hourglass Also found out today that out of 7 staterooms booked as Cat. 11 or 12, only 1 received an inside stateroom. Pretty awesome!!! :cheer2:

Jeanne B
11-01-2006, 06:25 AM
It's my first DCL cruise, and I booked a GTY 12 for 4 people, knowing they don't exist, so an automatic Cat. 11 upgrade was the worst I'd get. Well...I received a Cat. 9 (2520)!!! Yippee!!! It's forward, under Diversions. AND...I have adjoining rooms with my sister-in-law! :cool1:

That's funny, I'm also on the 11/30 cruise, booked a Cat 12 Gty and got 2519 so we're almost right across from you!! No such luck getting upgraded but we got upgraded from an inside to an oceanview on our first DCL cruise last October so I really can't complain. :) I might try to upgrade at the port if can get a decent price on a higher category (I'll be getting there early!!).

Funny thing is, last year I came across someone here on the DISboards and we both got upgraded and we ended up being just 2 cabins down from each other!!

Darn, I just checked the noisy room list and I see that 2519 is listed as being in one of the noisy zones. Oh well, that's what I get for booking a GTY!! :rolleyes:

klarlee
11-01-2006, 08:27 PM
That's funny, I'm also on the 11/30 cruise, booked a Cat 12 Gty and got 2519 so we're almost right across from you!! No such luck getting upgraded but we got upgraded from an inside to an oceanview on our first DCL cruise last October so I really can't complain. :) I might try to upgrade at the port if can get a decent price on a higher category (I'll be getting there early!!).

Funny thing is, last year I came across someone here on the DISboards and we both got upgraded and we ended up being just 2 cabins down from each other!!

Darn, I just checked the noisy room list and I see that 2519 is listed as being in one of the noisy zones. Oh well, that's what I get for booking a GTY!! :rolleyes:
Good luck on that upgrade! If not, then I'll see ya across the hall! :wave:
I read that the only time the room is noisy is when they're loading/unloading the ship...at least I hope that's the case! If not, at least we're on the ship to begin with!!! pirate: pirate:

jiminyC_fan
11-02-2006, 10:54 AM
Booked a gty 9 for the PC cruise for two. Got a 9. Location was very scary to me because it was listed as a noisy room. Got there and was in the room for 14 days and absolutely loved it. Have asked for it now for 2 other cruises.

Got a free upgrade from that room this last time. :cool1:

Jeanne B
11-02-2006, 08:03 PM
Good luck on that upgrade! If not, then I'll see ya across the hall! :wave:
I read that the only time the room is noisy is when they're loading/unloading the ship...at least I hope that's the case! If not, at least we're on the ship to begin with!!! pirate: pirate:

Yeah, I read that also about the loading/unloading so hopefully it won't be too bad. I made myself feel a little better about my Cat 12 cabin by upgrading our 2-night WDW stay after the cruise from a value to a mod...just in case I don't upgrade at the port!! :teeth:

captaincrash
11-07-2006, 07:52 AM
OK...

... so we're at 4,665 viewings, 75 postings and about 153 poll votes. Plus several votes off the poll. Anyone else have any "guarantee Booking" results they would like to share with the DIS community? I'll run another summary in a few days if we get a meaningful number of contributions. :rolleyes:

Octoberbride03
11-09-2006, 09:50 AM
Won't be able to post my votes for another 9 months casue my cruise is soo far off :sad2: But booked a 12 gty for DH and myslef and I'm really thrilled to be have come across this thread. I'll keep checking in from time to time and see how the votes go. Not really looking for an outside upgrade. Anything would be nice since we'll be 1st timers though. Course DH spent a few years sailing on on the Carrier JFK so he says he really doesn't care where the cabin is cause nothing will phase him noisewise. As for me I have a cochlear Implant so once i take it off to sleep I won't hear a thing.

Now if i just learned how to move time up :rolleyes:

colbybug
11-09-2006, 02:48 PM
I booked a category 12 guarantee and ended up with an inside cabin on Deck 7 Aft. I am thrilled!

Kathy

Disneyjamie
11-09-2006, 06:06 PM
for Dec 9 Double Dip Cruise. Booked GTY 12, got 6143, cat 11. Am very happy with the location! And, the prices went down, so got a price adjustment from Costco. I definitely have a steal of a deal! :cool1:

Sheryl
11-10-2006, 08:15 AM
I've never tried to upgrade. We've always traveled in a large group and wanted to be together. Actually, our January western cruise was booked October 2005. I requested 3 quotes for cat. 6 from different agencies and picked the one that had the best cabin selection and still the best price. Of our 5 cabins, we have 4 connecting (1 to 1 and another 1 to 1) and we are all together. There are 9 adults and 8 children and it helps if Grandma or aunt Susie takes the wide awake 5 and 6 year olds to breakfast with them and mom gets to sleep in.

Four years ago my husband and I, just the two of us, cruised on the Mediterranean. I think I would have tried the "upgrade" request, however I was ignorant to being able to ask for such things at that time. We did learn on that trip how we "really" love traveling with family. Not, that we didn't enjoy each other's company (it was our 30th wedding anniversary), but having all those memories with your kids and grandkids is awesome.

We are staying for 3 nights at Pop Century before the January cruise and I'm going to try and continue checking with any upgrade deals. Again, we want at least 2 of the rooms to connect, so I may not succeed. I've read were some are able to upgrade from value to moderate or from moderate to deluxe. We'll see....

Sheryl

captaincrash
11-11-2006, 05:24 AM
You know what...

... nows' a fine time to get philosophical. Having read your comments Sheryl I find myself thinking... "Say, it's not really about the cabin or whether or not we got any sort of bump or bargain... rather it's all about the voyage, the laughs and and memories we're creating with DCL."

I don't know why I was thinking all that ... but I was. I find myself aging a little... maybe even there's some middle age gloom creeping up on me - especially since a few friends and some older relatives are now threatened with chronic terminal illnesses. The notion of our existance having a finite limit is a sobering reminder for to reexamine where we are, where we've been... and symbolicly ... where we wanna go. And I am referring to things other then simply travel.

As such... I think I am sufferring from a biorthymic (anyone remember all THAT non-sense?)... swing and moving away from being the weassel pinching a dollar to the untouchable philosopher/would-be-poet. Ok... maybe not a poet then... but waxing romantic on the memories alone is NOT an unpleasant way to pass the evening away.

At any rate, I appreciate your remarks Sheryl in ways you probably never anticipated. And sometime soon I'll run another summary on the votes.... only this time it will just be a tabulating exercise as opposed to a witch hunt on how to squeeze something for nothing from DCL. :confused3

lonegungirl
11-12-2006, 05:43 AM
Booked a guarantee cat. 11 and got...a cat. 11. Directly under the theater--I guess we'll take ear plugs. :rolleyes:

huey578
11-12-2006, 05:25 PM
Excuse my ignorance..1st time cruiser but what is a Guarantee Cabin?

huey578
11-13-2006, 08:50 PM
bump:)

klarlee
11-13-2006, 09:59 PM
Excuse my ignorance..1st time cruiser but what is a Guarantee Cabin?

Check out Post #'s 48, 59, and 61 on this thread. They explain it quite well!

Jeanne B
11-17-2006, 06:11 AM
I got our cruise docs yesterday and this morning I decided to check DCL just for the heck of it and we've been upgraded from Cat 12 cabin 2519 to Cat 11 cabin 7563 so we've gone from deck 2 forward to deck 7 midship (and only a short walk to the "secret" deck!!). We were in an oceanview last year on deck 6 and loved it so compared to deck 2 I'm thrilled to be on deck 7!! :cool1: I was thinking of trying to pay for an upgrade at the port but I don't think I'll even bother now. :thumbsup2

Our luggage tags are for 2519 though, but I'm assuming there's no need to worry about misplaced luggage??

Buzz & Woody
11-30-2006, 08:42 PM
We just checked online yesterday and found out that we went from a Cat 12 GTY to a cat 8, room 5006 with a nice window. We booked 3 weeks prior to sailing and there were still lots of room available, so I assume that's why there was an upgrade.

owtrbnks
11-30-2006, 10:13 PM
Just got the docs today. :cool1: Booked a GTY 12 and got an 11 on deck 7! (Right near the s-cr-t deck.)

soleilmagie
12-04-2006, 06:16 PM
Just found out online tonight, I booked a cat. 12 gty in October 2005 and got a cat. 10 on deck 1. A 300$ savings on the prices back then and a 1000$ savings compared to what I would have to pay today! :cool1:

tinkattitude!
12-06-2006, 12:21 PM
Booked a gty 12, one year one day before sail date. 3 people in cabin (2 adults, one child). castaway cay members. booked through disney directly. got a 12.

EmmaLuvsPooh
12-07-2006, 06:54 AM
Ok-we did book late. On Thanksgiving morning for Dec 9th double dip. We were assigned cat 8. We've never cruise Disney before so I had to double check when I saw our cabin #. I'm so excited. Can't believe we got moved up that much. Oh-and deck 5 forward. Should be more convenient and quieter? I hope with a 3 yr and 6month old.

AhoyCaptainMickey
12-08-2006, 07:02 PM
great post...thanks :thumbsup2

yankeegal64
01-10-2007, 09:44 AM
We booked a gty 12 and then were upgraded to a cat. 9. Very pleased and happy and then I checked my reservations last night and saw we had been upgraded to a cat. 7 Navigator's Veranda. Sweet.

mruhaak
01-10-2007, 10:22 AM
We booked a gty 12 and then were upgraded to a cat. 9. Very pleased and happy and then I checked my reservations last night and saw we had been upgraded to a cat. 7 Navigator's Veranda. Sweet.

You mean you went from Cat. 12 to a Cat. 7?

That's great! I think you're very lucky! I don't think that happens very often, maybe I'm wrong...

txSleepingBeauty
02-08-2007, 08:47 PM
bumping for the next round of people!!