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Melody80
07-19-2006, 05:00 PM
Getting ready for my first Disney cruise in just a few days!

Ive read alot on here about how many people 'save' pool chairs and never use them.

Say you were at the pool for some time now and there are still no available chairs. You noticed the whole time you have been at the pool there as been a set of chairs with towles on them, maybe even a magazine, but in all this time no one has sat in them or even gone anywhere near them. Would it be okay to move the towel and what not to the other chair so you could sit down? Or would that be just as rude as the people hogging the chairs they arnt even using.

I wouldn't want to cause trouble with anyone but I wouldn't want to sit on the deck all afternoon either.

DrCavin
07-19-2006, 05:49 PM
This is one of the hot-button issues... DCL's policy is no saving chairs. Now that gets translated to many different meanings - some say move your butt & I am taking your chair, others say I can leave my shoe on it all day if I want...

We avoid the entire problem & just find a seat on deck 10 overlooking the pools.

Someone pass the popcorn::

joksten2000
07-19-2006, 05:49 PM
People are not supposed to save chairs, everyone does but there are limits, I get up early 5am so I have no problem, but I'm also at the pool by 7:30am and stay all day. I'd take a chair if they come within a half hour give it up but not after that. :love: :Pinkbounc

Melody80
07-19-2006, 05:56 PM
Im sorry if this is a hot topic. I didn't mean to stir the pot or anything, promise! Ive havn't been reading the boards for very long and hadn't read anything other than -
1. saving chairs is against the rules, and
2. People do it anyway by leaving there stuff on them and coming back hours later

I was just wondering if moving there stuff was okay. Has anyone moved someone things and had said person come back throwing a fit?

Thanks for the tip about Deck ten! I will check it out when I want to watch my teens swim but stay away from the action. However I also have 2 toddlers and will need to be at the pool with them while they swim.

stampinshauna
07-19-2006, 06:00 PM
If there is just a wadded up towel, I would say you're okay moving it because a lot of people just leave their towels there when they are done.

Float My Boat
07-19-2006, 06:15 PM
If it's been like over an hour, I will move them. If someone comes back and throws a fit, I will get up and move, but that's never happened.

WldWcnWmn
07-19-2006, 06:20 PM
I am putting on Flame Retardant Suit...

Not to cause trouble (I cause trouble even when I'm not trying to) but on Castaway Cay we timed an empty hammock for 45 minutes...I moved the towel off and me and my daughter got on. About a hour later (I fell asleep) some lady came up to me and said she had been saving the hammock. I said, "Aw that's too bad, since you should not save hammocks and lounge chairs, however since I am awake now I'll reliquish it to you." Me and my daughter then went to Cookies (it was about noon) She was NOT pleased...but she got "her hammock" back. I am gonna' join the lurkers now popcorn::

mommasita
07-19-2006, 06:27 PM
I just wanted to state that IMHO a lot of saving goes on, and a lot is minunderstood. If you are up early, you often see them cleaning the decks, and placing a towel on EACH chair near the pools, especially the Mickey Pool. I think people come along later and assume they are spoken for, when in all actuality, they are not. So, not always someone hogging a chair..

If there is a just towel, it can be removed, however sometimes people dump their whole lives on the chair, and never us it. :rolleyes:

Kissimmee
07-19-2006, 06:43 PM
I am putting on Flame Retardant Suit...

Not to cause trouble (I cause trouble even when I'm not trying to) but on Castaway Cay we timed an empty hammock for 45 minutes...I moved the towel off and me and my daughter got on. About a hour later (I fell asleep) some lady came up to me and said she had been saving the hammock. I said, "Aw that's too bad, since you should not save hammocks and lounge chairs, however since I am awake now I'll relinquish it to you." Me and my daughter then went to Cookies (it was about noon) She was NOT pleased...but she got "her hammock" back. I am gonna' join the lurkers now popcorn::

Try these. They have always worked for me.

Scenario one:

Ask in a modest voice to vicinity of the object, chair/hammock etc, "is this fill in the blank in use?" If no one responds enjoy.

Scenario two :

Owner returns within 20 minutes, the time it would take to run to their cabin or get a bite, apologie, say you thought it was available and relocate.

Scenario three :

Owner returns much later and stakes a claim. Say politely, "I'm real sorry I sat here after the last person left and took their things. Would you like me to move?"

Call me stupid but I think it's a fair balance to both sides and avoids words.

I don't think it is unfair to expect a hammock to wait for you while you make a pit stop, take a dip or grab a snack. But if someone stretches the privilege I think #3 is a good way to make that point without inviting hard feelings from either side.

Melody80
07-19-2006, 06:47 PM
Scenario three :
Owner returns much later and stakes a claim. Say politely, "I'm real sorry I sat here after the last person left and took their things. Would you like me to move?"

I LOVE THIS ONE! :thumbsup2

waltsgirl
07-19-2006, 06:55 PM
I am putting on Flame Retardant Suit...

Not to cause trouble (I cause trouble even when I'm not trying to) but on Castaway Cay we timed an empty hammock for 45 minutes...I moved the towel off and me and my daughter got on. About a hour later (I fell asleep) some lady came up to me and said she had been saving the hammock. I said, "Aw that's too bad, since you should not save hammocks and lounge chairs, however since I am awake now I'll reliquish it to you." Me and my daughter then went to Cookies (it was about noon) She was NOT pleased...but she got "her hammock" back. I am gonna' join the lurkers now popcorn::

My husband gets up early to be one of the first off the ship to go and get a Hammock. We use it and stay all day. We do, however, leave our area to go to Cookies to eat, just like you and your daughter did. We leave our things on our chairs and the Hammock. I have never timed our lunch but it could take 45 mins or longer. Sometimes our daughter will decide she wants to dance with the DJ or the characters come out. We do return and we want the chairs and the hammock.

Melody80
07-19-2006, 06:59 PM
My husband gets up early to be one of the first off the ship to go and get a Hammock. We use it and stay all day. We do, however, leave our area to go to Cookies to eat, just like you and your daughter did. We leave our things on our chairs and the Hammock. I have never timed our lunch but it could take 45 mins or longer. Sometimes our daughter will decide she wants to dance with the DJ or the characters come out. We do return and we want the chairs and the hammock.

What time should you get up and be ready in order to assure getting a hammock? Do people line up to leave the ship?

misseulalie
07-19-2006, 07:31 PM
I thought I would have this problem in May, but I realized with a 3 and 5 year old, there was no way I was going to be able to relax on a lounge chair. There are so many kids in that pool that I was constantly having to watch DD's.
DD's are not the best swimmers and was worried about their safety with the bigger kids, and of course watching them to make sure they didn't wander off by themselves or with a stranger...

I just ended up sitting at the end of the pool the entire time.
I noticed most mom's were by the side of the pool watching, not lounging...
So if you have little ones, you may never get to relax!!! :rolleyes:

nextcruz
07-19-2006, 08:43 PM
As far as the chairs by the pool - I'm with the others... a single towel on the chair means available for me! Just throw the towel in the "dirty" bin and get a fresh one for yourself! :sunny:

Also, if you are one of the lucky ones to score a hammock on Castaway... there are others who would love to use it too, for even a small part of the day. ;) BTW - you will have no trouble finding a chair on Castaway, there are plenty of chairs and loungers to go around. :)

skibum
07-19-2006, 08:49 PM
The last cruise we were on, there was a line to get off the ship (al the way up the aft staircase). I don't remember ever seeing one prior to that, though. Maybe there was a problem getting a door open or something???

Float My Boat
07-19-2006, 08:52 PM
Yes, share the hammocks! Use it for a while, then pass it along to someone else.

lbgraves
07-19-2006, 09:14 PM
Or stake out a hammock with a fellow DISer and share during the day. :)

waltsgirl
07-19-2006, 09:43 PM
What time should you get up and be ready in order to assure getting a hammock? Do people line up to leave the ship?

He ususally goes down to the doors around 8:00. They start letting people off the ship anywhere between 9-9:15 sometimes earlier depending on how fast they dock. Yes, there is a group of people waiting on the steps to go out.

MrsMork
07-19-2006, 09:54 PM
Yes, we line up to get off the ship. I am usually within the first 3 or 4 and yes I take a hammock and my family (and DIS friends) use it all day if we like. Once there were 11 of us and I grabbed 2 hammocks for us to use and we kept them both all day. If we decide to go to Serenity Bay or do something else we take our stuff and vacate it. I think getting up at 6:30 am in order to get a hammock entitiles me to use it as long as I want.

WldWcnWmn
07-19-2006, 09:55 PM
We do, however, leave our area to go to Cookies to eat, just like you and your daughter did. We leave our things on our chairs and the Hammock. I have never timed our lunch but it could take 45 mins or longer. Sometimes our daughter will decide she wants to dance with the DJ or the characters come out. We do return and we want the chairs and the hammock.

I agree... however, the hammock was empty for 45 minutes before we proceeded to approach then we were in it for an hour...sorry, but 1 hour and 45 minutes (at least) means "free to use". If you're on an excursion, or roaming the island...let someone else enjoy the hammock...a twenty minute dip in the ocean or a half hour lunch shouldn't void your claim on one. I thought waiting the 45 minutes was more than fair. No one came running up as we were sitting down. I know, Flame Away...

lbgraves
07-19-2006, 10:05 PM
We got stuck in a pile up on our last cruise stuck in the hallway on deck 2. :( That hadn't happened on the previous 2 cruises.

waltsgirl
07-19-2006, 10:13 PM
On one of our cruises my husband had the hammock and left his fanny pack looped through the hammock so it wouldn't fall off, while he went snorkeling. I had not got off the ship yet. He was gone 1/2 hour. When he returned there was a man laying in the hammock. He had un-looped the fanny pack and put it on the ground. Needless to say we did not get our hammock back the rest of the day.

Jpoo
07-19-2006, 10:38 PM
I guess the philosophy-move your feet,loose your seat-is prevalent everywhere people want to sit and the seats are in high demand. Will the CM's on ship clear towels off of the chairs aound the pools if they are unoccupied? I think they should. I believe it is rude of people to "reserve a seat" with towels or such for more that 20 minutes. Everyone on the cruise or beach is entitled to enjoy relaxing in an un-occupied seat/lounge or whatever.

seashells
07-19-2006, 10:54 PM
Lounge chair "saving" goes on every where. Ive been on a few vacations in the Caribbean and you will see towels on chairs all day and no one claiming them for hours (or at all).

If youve made the effort to get off the boat early and grab a great spot, good for you, enjoy, but if youre going off for more than just lunch, be kind and allow others to have a chance to enjoy as well :thumbsup2

BuzzNutt
07-20-2006, 06:02 AM
It is sad that there aren't enough hammocks for everyone so I agree we all need to share. I do not think that being the first one off the ship entitles anyone to special use priveldeges for the entire day. The idea posed that they should be used for a bit then move on so others can enjoy it sounds right to me.

thomprod
07-20-2006, 06:28 AM
Why don't they add some more hammocks at CC, first of all. Then, attach a wind up kitchen timer to each one with a one hour limit. If you need to leave your hammock temporarily, wind up the timer. This will let any passersby know that it is occupied and you intend to return within the hour, or however much time is remaining on the timer. If you see a free hammock with its timer at zero, it's free for the taking.

Here's another idea: If you wish to leave your hammock temporarily to swim, eat or use the facilities and intend on returning shortly, ask someone near you if they would hold the hammock for you. I'm sure you could find someone who would like the use of the hammock, even for a short time, and when you return, you just switch places.

Float My Boat
07-20-2006, 07:13 AM
Next thing you know, they will be charging for rental of the hammocks.

EAP'sDAD
07-20-2006, 08:00 AM
I have always had a problem with people who have a mentality that they own a chair or hammock by a pool or on CC. Just because you are the first one there does not mean you own the item for the entire day. I have always been one who believes if you are not using something then let someone else use it. Now I understand if you are just swimming or grabbing something to eat, but when you go hours without using the item I see this as being a hog. Some people become so possive.

I was in Aruba at a resort and me and DW were sitting on the beach and there was one of those oversized hammocks, somebody had placed some stuff at the base of it, after about an hour I ordered a drink and decided to relax in the hammock. Some lady came running over from about 50 feet away and was screaming that the hammock belonged to her and her family. I simply stated that when anyone in her family would like to use I would get up immediately and give it to them. She went over and got security and they came over and listened to both sides. they told her that she could not hold the hammock for future use and that I would allow them to use it when they wanted, which the guard told me I didn't have to do, but she was still plenty mad.

I laid in the hammock for about an hour and then rejoined my DW on the beach, no one from that woman's family used the hammock for the remainder of the day. about 3 times we would watch someone walk over and not use the hammock,even though it was obvious they wanted to.

disneymum2
07-20-2006, 08:39 AM
I thought I would have this problem in May, but I realized with a 3 and 5 year old, there was no way I was going to be able to relax on a lounge chair. There are so many kids in that pool that I was constantly having to watch DD's.
DD's are not the best swimmers and was worried about their safety with the bigger kids, and of course watching them to make sure they didn't wander off by themselves or with a stranger...

I just ended up sitting at the end of the pool the entire time.
I noticed most mom's were by the side of the pool watching, not lounging...
So if you have little ones, you may never get to relax!!! :rolleyes:

This made me laugh as I will be one of the moms who doesn't get to enjoy the "lounge chairs" :teeth:

erikthewise
07-20-2006, 09:06 AM
Why don't they add some more hammocks at CC, first of all. Then, attach a wind up kitchen timer to each one with a one hour limit. If you need to leave your hammock temporarily, wind up the timer. This will let any passersby know that it is occupied and you intend to return within the hour, or however much time is remaining on the timer. If you see a free hammock with its timer at zero, it's free for the taking.

Here's another idea: If you wish to leave your hammock temporarily to swim, eat or use the facilities and intend on returning shortly, ask someone near you if they would hold the hammock for you. I'm sure you could find someone who would like the use of the hammock, even for a short time, and when you return, you just switch places.

I think this is exactly backwards. If anyone has used a hammock for an hour, they need to move on and give someone else a chance. And a vacant hammock should be free for the taking. This from someone who has never spent more than a minute or two in a hammock and has little if any interest in the ones on CC. It just seems fair and considerate.

lillygator
07-20-2006, 09:19 AM
I would just pick up the towel and move it....when we've been to the Mickey pool...there are never enough chairs. We finally got two loungers that we shared between the four of us and then when DH would go to the pool it was free for someone to use.

lbgraves
07-20-2006, 09:20 AM
Sorry, but this wouldn't work. Why should someone have to regather all their things and stop their children from playing nearby so they can move down the beach where they can find an empty lounger after an hour? We have been on CC twice without a hammock and were lucky enough to share one last trip. We enjoyed ourselves just as much the first two trips.

degrapevine
07-20-2006, 09:26 AM
Okay ... my two cents!
Around pools at hotels (and we plan to do this on the cruise), my family of 5 just puts all of our stuff on one lounger.
There is always one adult in the pool with the kids and if the other adult wants to lounge, then we just use that one.
I agree that if all members of your party are in the pool, it's not fair to spread out all your stuff on a full row of loungers.
As for the hammocks, it kind of reminds me of the policy in most gyms.
There are a limited number of treadmills, ellipticals, etc., so people are only allowed to use them for 30 minutes if there is someone waiting.
Since it seems the hammocks would always have someone waiting, I agree that 1 hour seems a fair time.
I like the timer idea - Maybe even have a sign up sheet of some kind?
Of course, this is all a moot point for me ... no way my kids are gonna let me lay in a hammock plus I want to enjoy CC with them too much!
I think being thoughtful and courteous is always the best way to go.
Have fun!
Rose :)

myboysmom
07-20-2006, 09:34 AM
Hammocks- Walk further down the beach, there were plenty of hammocks available way down at the other end of the family beach when we were there. Some no one looked at all day.

Chairs by the pool. Move their stuff if they aren't there in 30 minutes. We were up early and at the Goofy pool just after breakfast. People had put "reading" material down and gone off for breakfast. Gimme a break. Actually, we took the whole chair :) and went where there was more sun. Then watched. It was fun- but some poor cast member had to go find them a "new" chair when they came back 2 hours later when the sun was higher.

Stepht5
07-20-2006, 09:43 AM
I am putting on Flame Retardant Suit...

Not to cause trouble (I cause trouble even when I'm not trying to) but on Castaway Cay we timed an empty hammock for 45 minutes...I moved the towel off and me and my daughter got on. About a hour later (I fell asleep) some lady came up to me and said she had been saving the hammock. I said, "Aw that's too bad, since you should not save hammocks and lounge chairs, however since I am awake now I'll reliquish it to you." Me and my daughter then went to Cookies (it was about noon) She was NOT pleased...but she got "her hammock" back. I am gonna' join the lurkers now popcorn::

You *GO GIRL*!!!! :worship: :worship:

cashewpeanut
07-20-2006, 10:02 AM
I've never had a problem finding a chair by the pool. Most of the time I do go to the upper deck though. At Castaway I have never been in a hammock, but I do not worry about it. A chair works just as well for me. Although if someone was gone for 45 minutes and I really wanted a hammock I would have moved the towel too. :)

mndisfam
07-20-2006, 12:05 PM
Maybe we are weird, but we have never had a big problem finding chairs (or hammocks) at CC, the Magic or VWL eg.

True, sometimes its crowded, and we might not get the exact spot we want...ALso, for a family of 4, we never take more than 2 chairs - our kids are in the water the WHOLE time...When they get out, we just chair a lounge with them.

I was worried about this on our cruise, but was glad to experience NO seat saving at the theater or pool.

(I must confess - I did save a chair for my DH or DD occasionally. Seemed like every time we sat down in the theater someone had to get up and get a drink or go to the bathroom. Might have helped that we went to the afternoon shows...)

hojolo
07-20-2006, 07:54 PM
One man's opinion...stated policy is "no saving", so if you're not there, it's available. That's why they have a policy.

Our family of 7 will typically take 2 lounge chairs for us and all of our stuff. 2 in the chair, 5 on the beach or in the water. If we are all going somewhere, like lunch, it's free game for the next guy.

I find it ironic that those who actually follow the stated official policy are somehow made to feel guilty by those who look only for their own interests. Flame all you want, but if you're not there, your chair is mine!

PizzieDuster
07-21-2006, 02:08 AM
Hammocks- Walk further down the beach, there were plenty of hammocks available way down at the other end of the family beach when we were there. Some no one looked at all day.

Chairs by the pool. Move their stuff if they aren't there in 30 minutes. We were up early and at the Goofy pool just after breakfast. People had put "reading" material down and gone off for breakfast. Gimme a break. Actually, we took the whole chair :) and went where there was more sun. Then watched. It was fun- but some poor cast member had to go find them a "new" chair when they came back 2 hours later when the sun was higher.

Never thought of that...moving the chair. On our DCL cruises we did ask a cast member to help us and they did. Moving chairs from different decks...if you ask, they will help you. I hope.

We have had hammocks on our cruises and did use them. The whole time. I have a teenager. He snoozed and we had to get him out of there so we could enjoy it. :goodvibes We were off the ship within 20 minutes of disembarking. My DH did wait in a line. I could go without a hammock next time.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/538973532/1539040217084062680dmLjBp

Doesn't matter where your chairs are on the beach. Be prepared for people to drag their chairs to water front.....I thought that was a great idea. Why rush off the ship when you can just take chairs to the water front.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/538973532/1539040396084062680BaORgU

Kissimmee
07-21-2006, 03:01 AM
My husband gets up early to be one of the first off the ship to go and get a Hammock. We use it and stay all day. We do, however, leave our area to go to Cookies to eat, just like you and your daughter did. We leave our things on our chairs and the Hammock. I have never timed our lunch but it could take 45 mins or longer. Sometimes our daughter will decide she wants to dance with the DJ or the characters come out. We do return and we want the chairs and the hammock.

Please don't take this the wrong way but I have a different take on the hammocks. Unlike the lounges, chairs and umbrellas which are numerous, there are only a few hammocks and while I appreciate the concept of getting up early, I view the hammocks as a limited and therefore shared commodity.

I would liken it to the swings at a playground. Would it be fair to claim exclusive ownership of a swing for the day and not allow other families to take turns?

Similarly, what if one large family got up early every day, staked out the hot tubs and stayed there the whole cruise? Can you picture getting in to soak when one of them gets out and forty minutes later they return with a hot dog platter and say "Hey! You took my spot!"?

My simple opinion is that any resource that is limited like that should be shared fairly.

Edit: After posting this I read the remaining responses and it seems I was being redundant.

branv
07-21-2006, 10:08 AM
Whoops, I'm thinking I misunderstood the meaning of "saving" chairs.

I thought it meant something more in line that you weren't allowed to spread your stuff out over lounge chairs that never or seldomly get used...i.e. don't run off to lunch for an hour and expect to keep your chair. However, it never occured to me that saving a chair meant that even if you get up to go wade in the water for 20-30 minutes that you can't leave your towel/book/backpack/coverup/drinks sitting there. DH and I did just that thing at the adult pool: we would get up occasionally and go cool down in the water for a little while then come back. On Serenity Beach, we would go wading for a little bit then come back...like I said, probably about 20-30 minutes. Was it inappropriate to have left our stuff on the lounge chairs (vs. ugh..in the sand?) and have expected that they not be taken?

At what point is it considered "saving?"

GoofyGuy777
07-21-2006, 10:48 AM
Moral of this thread:

Don't be a Hammock Hog...LOL :rotfl2:

http://www.chuckbenz.com/pig/pig_in_hammock.gif

Stepht5
07-21-2006, 02:06 PM
Whoops, I'm thinking I misunderstood the meaning of "saving" chairs.

I thought it meant something more in line that you weren't allowed to spread your stuff out over lounge chairs that never or seldomly get used...i.e. don't run off to lunch for an hour and expect to keep your chair. ....

At what point is it considered "saving?"

That is what I would consider *saving*. But, in the theater if there is not a hiney in the seat it is available. We all go to the restroom before the show and arrive together.

taeja71
07-21-2006, 02:25 PM
taking notes for my upcoming cruise....http://bestsmileys.com/writer/2.gifreally, I'll show them my print outs and I'll say, SEE its right here from the DISboards, DCL policies, and et all!

gmboy95
07-21-2006, 02:32 PM
i think there is some common courtesy that needs to take place here....if you are a family going to the pool to swim, it is adequate for you to grab 1 chair and put all of your families stuff on it, and it is equally courteous to respect a family who has done this....IMO it is not courteous to occupy a lounger per family member if you are going to be swimming for an hour...if you are going to try and lay by the pool it is fine but if it is two parents and a couple of kids, one lounger or chair should be adequate

Jingle
07-21-2006, 02:54 PM
This was at a resort. We wanted a couple of prime location loungers by the pool. We went out to the pool AFTER breakfast. They were still washing the pool area at that time. Anyway, we chose two loungers, sat down, and then at least one of us stayed by the chairs if one of us left the pool area.

About 1/2 later, a couple came and sat down in the loungers next to us. At least one person from their party also stayed by the loungers if someone left the pool area. We read the paper, chatted and such.

About 11:30, I was laying in the lounger with my eyes closed when I heard this man yelling. I looked up and this man was yelling at the people next to us, who had been sitting there since about 8:00 that morning, accusing them of stealing his chair. I jumped in and said that there was nothing on those loungers when those people sat there HOURS ago. Then he started screaming at me that I wasn't even there when he put his stuff on HIS chair, so how would I know! We all refused to move, and rightly so.

He went and found a lounger somewhere else and dragged it right by the feet of our loungers between us and the pool. Then nobody could walk by between the chairs and the pool and he was laying right by our feet. What a jerk. He stayed there about five minutes and got up and walked out of the pool area, leaving some of his stuff on the lounger. We were all so tempted to pick up HIS lounger and throw the entire thing, his stuff and all, into the pool. But we didn't. However we did drag it so that it was off of the walkway. We left about an hour after that, but never saw him come back to HIS lounger with HIS stuff on it.

I absolutely think it is very rude to throw a towel or something else on a chair by the pool, then leave the entire pool area for sometimes HOURS, and then come back and expect your chair to still be there, all nice and saved for you.

Float My Boat
07-21-2006, 03:05 PM
Please don't take this the wrong way but I have a different take on the hammocks. Unlike the lounges, chairs and umbrellas which are numerous, there are only a few hammocks and while I appreciate the concept of getting up early, I view the hammocks as a limited and therefore shared commodity.

I would liken it to the swings at a playground. Would it be fair to claim exclusive ownership of a swing for the day and not allow other families to take turns?

Similarly, what if one large family got up early every day, staked out the hot tubs and stayed there the whole cruise? Can you picture getting in to soak when one of them gets out and forty minutes later they return with a hot dog platter and say "Hey! You took my spot!"?

My simple opinion is that any resource that is limited like that should be shared fairly.

Edit: After posting this I read the remaining responses and it seems I was being redundant.

I agree 120% with this!! :woohoo: