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rparmfamily
07-11-2006, 08:51 PM
I posted this in the community board section too, but that board moves so fast I'm not sure how many replies I'll get. I usually hang over here anyway!

We are moving to Hawaii early next year. I'm not sure what to expect when it comes to schools, job, what's offered for military families,etc. Housing,etc? We don't have any pets. DH will be at Pearl Harbor on a ship.

We did go on vacation to O'ahu in May of this year, so I've been there (Hale Koa).

Thanks guys!! :sunny:

beachbunny
07-11-2006, 10:08 PM
Housing: I know that the housing allowance is quite high. There is military housing near Pearl Harbor. Otherwise, expect to use your housing allowance to pay outrageous rental prices. With the average price of a single family residence at around $650K, housing will not be cheap. Since it's just opinions here, I prefer Windward or East Oahu to West Oahu.

Schools: Public schools aren't good. Private schools vary in price up to $15K+ for Punahou (Michelle Wie will be a Senior there next year) or Iolani - yeah, others may tell you how good other schools are but proof is in the college acceptance and test score pudding. Many parents put themselves in debt so that their kids won't have to go to public school (at least after elementary school ). I have a co-worker who sent her child to Punahou summer school. She doesn't know how he'll go back to his public school next year - he's only in the first grade - she's amazed at the difference - she didn't think there would be any.

Jobs: Depending on what you do, certain jobs are plentiful. Hawaii gobbles up and spits out teachers and service industry workers (desk clerks, maids, tour guides, bus drivers, etc.)(is it any wonder with so many DISers visiting?). Unfortunately, neither pay well. Last time I looked, starting salary for teachers is still in the 30's (depending on qualifications) and tourist industry jobs (non-management) pay by the hour (many hotel/tourist jobs prefer bi-lingual applicants). High tech in Hawaii usually means IT, not code monkeys. Check out the Honolulu Advertiser Sunday Help Wanteds.

Any more questions? Just ask.

Doodlebug939
07-11-2006, 10:35 PM
I am a military wife too so I understand wanting to know as much as you can about the place before you move. Although I dont have any specific information. I can tell you that I recommend that you go to www.military.com

They have a discussion board. http://forums.military.com/eve
They have a Military Life, Spouses, and Community. If you join there or even search there you might find out some information about the area, housing, community, jobs, medical and so forth.

I wish you the best. My husband is looking at orders now too. So we will be moving somewhere new at the beginning of the year. (Although we havent found any orders yet that we liked)

rparmfamily
07-11-2006, 11:12 PM
Thanks for the link!! I'm off to research!!

mom2my3kids
07-12-2006, 05:18 PM
Gosh my friend lived in Hawaii about 11 years ago, her husband was in the marines. She said that the native hawaiins do not like outsiders living on the island. She said they were very unfriendly..

KT27
07-12-2006, 05:56 PM
Try www.cinchouse.com The message boards have been very helpful, there are girls from Hawaii on there from all branches of service.

Good luck!

Nolcrest
07-12-2006, 06:47 PM
Just wanted to say that my brother and his family have lived in Hawaii for about 5 years now. They were only supposed to be there for a 2 year assignment with his wifes job (physical therapy) but they like it so much that it looks like that is where they will permanently reside.

My brother also works at Pearl Harbor as a ship mechanic (something like that) and he absolutley loves his job too.

Overall, it was a very good move for the family.

I don't have any information about a military move but can probably get any general info about the area. :thumbsup2

beachbunny
07-12-2006, 08:20 PM
Wow Tammy, coming from someone with no first hand knowledge, that's quite a racially insensitive comment.

rparmfamily
07-12-2006, 08:28 PM
Any information about the areas around Pearl Harbor would be great, specifically schools. My DD is starting K this year and so we will be transferring during the school year. I am really only concerned w/elem schools because we won't be there longer than 3 yrs probably. Private is an option if it's not too expensive.

What housing is nice (like, nearly new--nice). I'm spoiled to tell you the truth, I've lived in housing several times and I know it can depend on where/what housing you get.

I am definately going with an open mind and I know I will love it anyway. I've loved nearly everywhere we've been (maine, sicily, pensacola, jax,) except Norfolk LOL!!

Looks like we get $2600 towards housing if we choose to live off-base, plus COLA, which looks to be $300-600, can't tell at this point.

Thanks again!

grlpwrd
07-12-2006, 08:44 PM
Gosh my friend lived in Hawaii about 11 years ago, her husband was in the marines. She said that the native hawaiins do not like outsiders living on the island. She said they were very unfriendly..

I am a local girl (I am also part Hawaiian) and I find that true to an extent. I think there is racism there. Not just against haole people, but also between races. (Haole used to mean foreigner, but now it means any person of Caucasian descent.) I grew up having people around me make degrading jokes about all racial groups. I don't think it's the melting pot that it seems which is very unfortunate.

I had 2 bad experiences myself so it just doesn't happen to "outsiders." One time I was wearing a lei waiting on the curb to catch the bus with a boyfriend at the time and I was called racist names. I am a local girl and I look it, too. :confused3 Then when I went to the beach to boogie board I took my boyfriend with me and these local boys got mad and started harassing us because they acted like it was "their" beach. It can happen to anyone, I guess, because some people have issues. :sad2:

Not all of the local people are racists and unfriendly, though - I promise. ;) There are sovereignty and indigenous issues so that plays a huge role. Please remember that our Queen was imprisoned and our government was illegally overthrown, too, so there is a backlash. I think overall, though, there is a lot of "aloha spirit" which you will find no where else in the world.

I think so long you go in respecting the people, culture, and environment you will do okay. They do things a lot differently over there, though, that's for sure.

Traffic and the public schools suck, but the bus system is great and there are private schools and homeschooling is getting more popular now. I give the current administration 1 star out of 5. There are a lot of problems going on, unfortunately. Be sure to read the online versions of local newspapers at www.honolulustarbulletin.com and www.honoluluadvertiser.com .

There is a commissary on Oahu, Costco, Sam's Club, and Walmart so that will definitely help keep prices down for you.

GL! :wizard:

rparmfamily
07-12-2006, 09:03 PM
Thanks for the info! I was a history minor, so when we were there in May I found the history of Hawaii very interesting! I kept telling my daughter how a REAL queen lived in Hawaii and my daughter wanted to see the palace so bad! (we didn't make it there during our stay, we spent most of the time in the North Shore area and at the lagoons at Ko'Olina.)

seashoreCM
07-12-2006, 10:48 PM
Is base housing available and could your family put up with it?

haole -- ha-oh-leh, say the syllables together quickly. Not quite like "howly". In Hawaiian, vowels are never silent. Aiea (name of district near Pearl Harbor) has 4 syllables.

The more fashionable suburbs are east of downtown Honolulu and the public schools there are not too bad. These were predominantly Caucasian. But then you have to commute into town and across town and then to Pearl Harbor. Houses themselves are quite similar to those in Florida, lots of single story ranch style houses on concrete slab foundations, older homes on short stilts with crawl space underneath, also lots of high rise apartments including condominiums in the city. "Almost every" apartment has a balcony (lanai) or screened in porch.

>>> racially insensitive comment
My mother (and most of my relatives on that side of the family) grew up in Honolulu. To them it was "quite well known" that there were groups of native Hawaiians who resented the presence of non-native Hawaiians on the islands. Rough parts of town include Kalihi (between downtown and the airport) and Waianae to Makaha (distant southwest suburbs) well past the military areas.

Disney hints:
http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm

rparmfamily
07-12-2006, 11:49 PM
Thank you for the information. I've been peeking at rentals (house) because I don't know that I could handle living in housing again after living in my own home. (my home is a newer Florida style ranch). I don't want to sound too spoiled, but we are. I know living in housing can be "interesting", as we lived there before. The Corian counters and the Pergo floors helped though. LOL

Honestly, I'd prefer to live in the "best" areas even if it means taking a smaller home. Right now we are looking at 4brs (I like having a playroom/craft room) but it doesn't have to be that way. Quality of the schools is my #1 concern (and commute for DH, as we will move there w/just one car, may pay to ship our second car.) If you know any specific areas that have quality schools or are close to good private schools (without being $15K a year) please point me in that direction! We estimate to have about $2500-3000 to apply to rent/utilities. (WOW, I have to say, compared to what we get in Florida!!)

Speaking of utilities, do most homes have A/C? Heat? DW? Are utilities expensive? Is there anything that is cheaper to pre-purchase in the CONUS and ship with us? We need new couches, but I'm torn between buying now and shipping new ones or waiting until we get there.

beachbunny
07-13-2006, 01:58 AM
The best public elementary schools in the state are located in Manoa (it's a pretty suburb/college town near the University of Hawaii) - Manoa Elementary and Noelani Elementary (all of the professors' kids go to these two schools so they usually have the highest test scores). After that, I'd go with anything in East Honolulu (Kahala through Hawaii Kai). Rent in the Manoa and East Honolulu areas is not cheap ($2500-3000 range for a 3 bedroom home). I wouldn't go farther west than Moanalua (which, by the way, has a good public high school). East Honolulu to Pearl during rush hour is a 45 minute commute, closer the nearer you get to town.

There is no need for heat and most homes don't come with A/C. Trade winds and lots of windows keep homes comfortable. Most of the older homes are single-wall construction so they stay cool all year around.

Utilities based on two people: water is every other month $120; electricity is $120 every month if you don't run the A/C; basic cable is $40; basic phone is $30.

NEX has a good selection of furniture so you can buy here at prices cheaper than what is available to the locals.

Stock up on B&BW soaps and VS undies because there are no stores in Hawaii (although the NEX has a limited supply of B&BW products).

seashoreCM: What's wrong with Kalihi? Last time I looked it's mostly hard working blue collar immigrant Filipinos. But I will agree with you on Waianae (stay far away from there - especially the beach which, sadly, is populated with the homeless who have been kicked off the "tourist" beaches).

rparmfamily
07-13-2006, 09:00 AM
Thanks for the information and giving me some areas to look!

No BBW or Victoria's Secret?? I know there isn't any Yankee Candle stores (I LOVE candles!) but I'm not sure if the military will ship my candles or not.

grlpwrd
07-13-2006, 11:25 AM
I somewhat agree with the rough parts of town comment, but crime can happen anywhere. I go by the feeling if there are houses with link fencing and a mean dog then you gotta wonder why, but it would give you a general idea of how crime is in the neighborhood.

There's not just rough parts of town, but gangs and random violence, too. Hawaii has a big drug use problem, especially marijuana and "ice" (crystal meth).

beachbunny
07-13-2006, 05:30 PM
Yes. Sadly no Yankee Candle either. Better stock up before you get here.

beachbunny
07-13-2006, 06:42 PM
Two more places to look for a house - Kaneohe and Kailua. Now that the H-3 has been constructed, both are just 5 to 10 minutes from Pearl. Kaneohe is near the Marine base. Both are decent burbs and have okay schools.

rparmfamily
07-13-2006, 08:05 PM
How far would Kaneohe be to Pearl Harbor? We drove past it in May and it seemed pretty, more mountainous and more trees I think.

I'd like to avoid Waikiki and Honolulu just because of traffic. I think...I am just going by my impression from May. Traffic all the way from the airport to Waikiki was non-stop.

beachbunny
07-13-2006, 08:32 PM
H-3 goes from Kaneohe to right near the airport. It was built with federal funds (basically, for the military - Kaneohe Marine Corp. Air Station). Once on H-3, it is a five to ten minute drive to Pearl Harbor.

Kaneohe is very lush and green (meaning it rains a lot). Temperatures are cooler than East Honolulu. Kailua is more like East Honolulu as far as climate and beachy feel - but as you get closer to Kailua beach, housing prices get much higher.

Kaneohe and Kailua are neighboring communities. They share a smaller mall (with Macy's) and Kailua town has lots of small non-chain stores.

The drive from East Honolulu to Pearl always gets slows down when you hit downtown. After that, it's smooth sailing. Commute time is 20-45 minutes depending on time of day.

Waikiki is nothing like the rest of Honolulu. That's where we keep the tourists penned up :teeth: (if you'll notice Waikiki is a thin long stretch bordered by the Ala Wai Canal on one side and the ocean on the other). These days, locals rarely, if ever, go into Waikiki (unless it's for work or to attend a party at one of the hotels).

mom2my3kids
07-13-2006, 09:43 PM
Wow Tammy, coming from someone with no first hand knowledge, that's quite a racially insensitive comment.


I am sorry I didn't mean for it to sound like that. I was just repeating what my friend told me many times. I personally do not know that for a fact but that is what she told me. I have told her many times I would love to go vacation in Hawaii and she said that. I am sorry I never meant to insult you. She said they don't mind tourist's but didn't like for outsiders to live there.

keilani5
07-13-2006, 10:37 PM
Hi everyone! I lived in Hawaii for 5 years and my husband is actually from Hawaii
(Born & raised). RParmfamily, what service is your husband in? We lived on Hickam
AFB, and almost all of the housing was cinderblock housing. It was quite adequate
but not as nice as I would have liked. The bugs are hard to get used too also!
Watch out for the flying cockroaches! I think Mililani is also nice to live in. My FIL
lives in Aiea and SIL lives in Mililani. It has gotten quite expensive. Also I know that they have really built a lot of homes in Ewa Beach where the sugarcane fields were.
I agree with another poster on public schools. They are ranked low statistically, but
I know they really don't have alot of funds to work with. Please go with an open mind.
I am a haole, and my DH isn't. I found that hard at times. Try all the local food, it is
WONDERFUL!!! Try Aloha Shoyu! And Manapua, and lumpia, and the rice!!! And shave ice! Boy do I miss the local food! The best thing about Hawaii is the Aloha Spirit.
People let you in while driving and actually give you a Shaka. (A hand gesture) that
means mahalo(thank you) and howz it! Have fun! I wish I were you! Hawaii is about
OHANA(family).

disneykid4ever
07-13-2006, 11:01 PM
I grew up on Oahu, specifically in Kaneohe, and was living in Kailua until September of last year. My husband is in the Navy and I can tell you that without a doubt the Windward side of Oahu is probably the best place to live under your circumstances. The commute to/from Pearl Harbor would be a breeze via H-3 (and it's a beautiful, scenic drive to boot) you are close to one of the best beaches on the island (Kailua/Lanikai) and the atmosphere is laid-back (especially Kailua; think vacation, beach town atmosphere). In Kailua lots of people get around on bicycles or by walking, there's a Starbucks right downtown where it's really fun to just sit around and talk, also Jamba Juice is right next door, and Teddy's Bigger Burgers are THE BEST!!! OMG, and their shakes are awesome! I totally miss living in Kailua, can you tell?! Also there's a street fair in Kailua every year with lots of food, entertainment, crafts, etc . . . AND, there is the best Mexican restaurant called Mexico Lindo and lots of cool, small boutique shops . . . There's also Windward Mall in Kaneohe (which is 10 minutes from Kailua) that has a large movie theater but there are also small discount movie theaters in Kailua where you can see movies for like $1.50! There's a 24 hour fitness in Kaneohe if you or your husband like to workout, but a lot of people get outdoors and do stuff in Kailua so if that's your bag you'll dig that too. It is truly a beautiful side of the island and the Marine base is right in Kailua so the commissary would only be minutes away and for July 4th they usually have great fireworks there and air shows (we saw the Blue Angels 2 years ago) and lots of entertainment (like big name acts!). Trust me, look for a house or townhouse in Kailua, you will love it! If I were to move back to Oahu (we're stationed in Canada now), Kailua is where I would live again in a heartbeat! If you have more questions, just pm me!

beachbunny
07-13-2006, 11:17 PM
No insult taken, Tammy.

beachbunny
07-14-2006, 12:15 AM
Aiea through Ewa Beach are located in West Honolulu. Housing prices are the cheapest on the island. But I wouldn't look there if public schools is a priority - they consistently score at the bottom. Also, the worst of the rush hour traffic comes from that direction - recent development has only made this situation worse. Commute from Mililani to downtown Honolulu during rush hour is at least an hour and Ewa Beach to downtown Honolulu is at least an hour and a half - bumper to bumper all the way.

rparmfamily
07-14-2006, 01:03 AM
I so appreciate the awesome advice you guys have given me!! The town of Kailua sounds great (it's near the marine base, right?) but would that drive to Pearl Harbor be too bad? I'm assuming DH would be heading to work quite early in the am.

A little beach town w/a Starbucks sounds like heaven to me!! LOL

I'm so excited guys! Thanks so much!

Wickedmom75
07-14-2006, 01:21 AM
My best friend and her family own a house in Ewa Beach they are Navy. When I went to visit it was amazing I didn't realize how much I missed Island life ( spent 6 years of my childhood in Puerto Rico) It was beautiful , I went in October so the weather was perfect , but they do go through their rainy seasons, and yes the traffic can be horrible but it is all about timing. When they 1st got there they were in base housing in Ewa ( oh ya prounounce the w as a v) the company that owns them now have been doing ongoing remodels on them , friend said the rooms were pretty spacious versus what she has in her 3 bedroom condo . You will have a great time once you get over your sticker shock the 1st time you buy groceries :rotfl: Wish I could go back :sunny:

beachbunny
07-14-2006, 01:27 AM
The commute from Kailua to Pearl Harbor shouldn't be too crowded. And if your husband leaves early, it should be a straight shot.

Most of the traffic comes from the Ewa to Diamondhead direction. Your husband will be going Windward to Leeward.

If you're going to be living in Kailua, look at a private school called Le Jardin. It starts with preschool, is highly recommended, and not too pricey. It's also a known "feeder" school into Punahou and Iolani. As an added bonus, part of the curriculum includes lessons in French.

rparmfamily
07-14-2006, 03:27 PM
Stupid question--(for you movers out there), did any of you have trouble shipping candles? I have quite the stockpile of Yankee Candles and some BBW ones too and I'd be heartbroken to not be able to take them w/me. I was told (years ago) that I couldn't because they are flamable. ???

beachbunny
07-14-2006, 04:46 PM
I had heard years ago that one reason there's no B&BW in Hawaii is because they can't ground ship and there's too much alcohol to boat or plane ship safely. But that's because alcohol is highly flammable. Without a lighter, I wouldn't think a candle would pose the same threat. Put them in a box, tape it shut, and that's that.

disneykid4ever
07-14-2006, 10:25 PM
My understanding is you AREN'T supposed to ship candles, HOWEVER we did a lot of our own packing and so many of our boxes were ready to go when the packers came to our house. We just labeled the box with something other than "candles".

disneykid4ever
07-14-2006, 10:33 PM
H-3 will be very convenient for your husband, truly! It is probably the easiest commute on the whole island no matter what time of day it is.

Also, with private schools in Kailua . . . Le Jardin is not the only one, it is highly regarded, but there are also other smaller private schools (religiously affiliated, but of course you don't have to ascribe to that religion to be admitted). I can think of at least 3. Also, there is one public school in Kailua that is a blue-ribbon school ( so not ALL the public schools are bad, but I would still look at private ones seriously), it's called Aikahi Elementary and is located just outside the back gate of the Marine base. If you don't live in the area that serves Aikahi El. you can request a geographic exception to have your child still attend there. I did my student-teaching there for Elemtary Ed. and the teachers are very nice.

Christypl
07-14-2006, 10:41 PM
hi!!! I am a military wife also. We just moved from Hawaii. Actually we were stationed there twice. We lived in Kaneohe and I taught in Kalihi. Knowing what I saw in the public school system I would only send my kids to a private school. But hey thats just me. It is an adventure. I loved the island. The extra Cola is great too. I sent you a pm about a military wives group in Hawaii.

rparmfamily
07-15-2006, 12:10 AM
Thank you guys so much for the info!!

Avalanche
07-15-2006, 10:21 AM
Never stationed (but did vacation many times) in Hawaii, but we were stationed in Japan. Even though I can't answer many of your questions I can relate to them.

As for shipping candles, our movers got so carried away packing they packed our kitchen trash can filled with trash. Luckily I noticed and we were able to get it out of the crate. Couldn't have imagined what it would have been like 3 months later when we unpacked it.

My only advice would be KEEP YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR and have fun!

rparmfamily
07-25-2006, 01:37 AM
Just wanted to say thank you again!! I'm very strongly leaning towards living out in town on the windward side.

ExPirateShopGirl
07-25-2006, 02:55 AM
Hey there! You'll love Hawaii. My ex was stationed at Pearl Harbor long ago and we had a lovely older (circa June 1941) townhome just outside the main gate. From what I understand those have been torn down and new quarters built. After living several years on the leeward side of the island at Lualualei, we jumped at the chance to move closer to Honolulu proper and eliminate the commute.

They do have a Costco and a Sam's but you'll find the commissary much cheaper in the long run. Our older DD was not yet in elementary school when we moved back to the mainland, so I can't help you with schools. To be honest, the school situation was one of the reasons we left. Don't be tempted to rent a place that takes up your entire housing allowance. Location is definitely more important than size, especially when you have school-age kids to consider. Save money to visit the other islands and stay in a nice resort now and then. If you or your DH get a Hawaii driver's license, you're entitled to kama'aina travel rates.... like a locals-only discount.

Also, the best beach to take the kids... Lani Kai! It's nestled back in Kailua and offers the best family beach experience, especially with little kids.

Enjoy it there... the locals are friendly and inviting for the most part... :)


:beach:

Skatermom23
07-25-2006, 10:07 AM
Just saw this thread...I was in Hawaii on vacation when it started... :teeth: We lived on both Hickam and Wheeler for nine years, two seperate tours. My kids were young when we went the second time and like others here have mentioned, I would not put my young kids in the public schools. If you should stay near Hickam/Pearl Harbor area there is a really neat private school called Navy Hale Keiki. A lot of military children attend here as well as local kids. It is only for pre school through second grade, which was perfect for us because we left after my oldest finished second grade. My children just thrived here and it really was a wonderful place. In fact, on our trip back this summer both kids asked to stop in and see if any of their old teachers were there. Kids are now 15 and 13. They say that NHK is some of their best childhood memories.

While the base housing isn't the greatest, if it is available, I would suggest taking it. It is convenient for your DH and nice to submerge yourself into the military community there. There is tons of stuff for the kids to do and at very reasonable prices. You won't feel isolated. Also, remember you and many others are looking for that perfect off base home. They are not readily available. I remember back in 1998 I had a friend who lived in the Tripler housing area and come home from a Dec vacation to find her whole house flooded. They had to find a rental home immediately. It wasn't easy. They took the only house they could find in Kaneohe for about $2400 per month plus utilities. Granted the house was nice but but she missed the closeness of the base and she still needed to get her kids to the school each day.

If I can help answer any questions, just ask. I also did work there our first tour, before kids, and can give you my perspective there to. That is a whole other issue!!

lost*in*cyberspace
07-25-2006, 10:12 AM
I have never lived in Hawaii, but have visited numerous times and am in a military family, so know lots of families who have been stationed there.

My main concern moving there with kids would be the public school situation. I have only heard bad things about the public schools there.

I would be seriously looking into private schools.

rparmfamily
08-17-2006, 12:49 AM
Bumping because I have another question!

Navy Hale Keiki
I saw where someone mentioned it only goes to 2nd grade. What is a good private school in the area (near Pearl Harbor) that would take 3rd grade and up. DD will go to K, 1st, 2nd and possibly some 3rd while we live there.

Thanks guy!

Skatermom23
08-17-2006, 09:24 AM
Bumping because I have another question!

Navy Hale Keiki
I saw where someone mentioned it only goes to 2nd grade. What is a good private school in the area (near Pearl Harbor) that would take 3rd grade and up. DD will go to K, 1st, 2nd and possibly some 3rd while we live there.

Thanks guy!

There are several church sponsored schools that are good. I know down in the Hickam area many sent their kids to Holy Family. That is the only other one in that area that is coming to mind. It is a Catholic school and the waiting list is long. Honestly though, since the cost of NHK is much less than most private places, it would be worth it to send your child there through 2nd grade. I knew a few families that left in third and homeschooled for a few months and then moved and their kids jumped right into the 3rd grade on the mainland.

rparmfamily
08-21-2006, 12:28 AM
Thank you!!

grlpwrd
08-21-2006, 02:28 AM
Wow, Christpl and Skatermom23, I would have never known that you two lived there if you hadn't mentioned it. :)

I went to public grade school and private parochial middle and high schools. We lived near Diamond Head and my parents drove 45 minutes just to get us to school. That is how important it was to go to a private school. The public schools there are not very good, but I have heard about a few schools like Kahala Elementary (Kahala is an affluent area) that have received good reviews.

GL, OP! :wizard:

stephandmike27
08-21-2006, 04:27 AM
I was born in Hawaii and have lived here all my life. I could not even consider living anywhere else. Granted I don't live on Oahu, but the Big Island. The pace here is slower and everyone knows everyone, or is related to everyone somehow.

As for the publice schools yes there are good schools and not so good schools, expensive rent and lots of different cultures, but hey life is what you make it where ever your at. I am sure you will come to love it as it grows on you. My son is in the military and I wish he could get stationed on Oahu. You could be stationed somewhere else that would not be as appealing as Hawaii. Good luck to you. :thumbsup2 :sunny:

stephandmike27
08-21-2006, 04:29 AM
I meant to say public schools and don't go by me as an example of public school spelling here in Hawaii. I went to and graduated from a private school so that just proves my point. Plus I think faster than I type. :goodvibes

rparmfamily
08-21-2006, 10:19 AM
Here's my two ideas:

Live out in town on the windward side, near Kailua out by the K'bay. I would then have easy access to the commissary at the marine base and hopefully find good public schools in that area.
OR
Live in housing near Pearl Harbor, near where DH will be. That way I'd be closer to the Navy base and it's activities, and put DD and DS in private school. I'd probably feel more secure while DH is deployed.

I'm not really one to want to live in housing, but I am leaning towards it now. The school situation and being able to afford it for two children is scary!

Is traffic down by Pearl Harbor horrible? I just don't want to live in an area that very overdeveloped. Now I wish when we were there in May that we'd drove down to Pearl Harbor from the Hale Koa.

Thanks again guys! We are so excited and I'm sure we'll love living there. DH and I both have adventurous souls and love to travel! We want to live in neat places while the military pays for it LOL. (we've already lived in Italy as well!)

Skatermom23
08-21-2006, 11:51 AM
Here's my two ideas:

Live out in town on the windward side, near Kailua out by the K'bay. I would then have easy access to the commissary at the marine base and hopefully find good public schools in that area.
OR
Live in housing near Pearl Harbor, near where DH will be. That way I'd be closer to the Navy base and it's activities, and put DD and DS in private school. I'd probably feel more secure while DH is deployed.

I'm not really one to want to live in housing, but I am leaning towards it now. The school situation and being able to afford it for two children is scary!

Is traffic down by Pearl Harbor horrible? I just don't want to live in an area that very overdeveloped. Now I wish when we were there in May that we'd drove down to Pearl Harbor from the Hale Koa.

Thanks again guys! We are so excited and I'm sure we'll love living there. DH and I both have adventurous souls and love to travel! We want to live in neat places while the military pays for it LOL. (we've already lived in Italy as well!)

Both ideas are good. Personally, if it were me :teeth: I would let the availablity of housing be your guide. If you get there and housing is available and it is decent (have an open mind) I would snatch it! The traffic everywhere on the island is horrible during rush hour and construction times.
But if your on base and just carting the kids around to school, you won't hit that stuff and most likely your DH will have an easy commute as well.

As far as the schools being better on the windward side...I guess they may be. But I still wouldn't put the kids in a public school there for more reasons that just education.

We were just there in July and spent 12 days at the Hale Koa. We were constantly driving back and forth to Hickam and the NEX exchange on Pearl Harbor (next to it). They have such a nice faciltiy there and it is just down the street from NHKS! :thumbsup2 I will say that the bases have gone downhill in the last 6 years. It seems no one waters their lawns and keeps up with exterior maintenance like they used to. I wonder if that is due to changes in housing allowances? We are retired now so I don't pay attention to that stuff.

Seeing that your an adventurous soul you will get island fever...happens to everyone. You get to the point where you just have to get off the island if nothing more than to go another direction! :rotfl2: We would plan outer island trips and went back to the mainland every other year. I spent 9 years there and loved every minute!