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ForTheLoveofDisney
06-17-2006, 02:45 PM
I saw this question asked on another online community I belong to.

They used an article found in USA Today called Close to home: Des Moines (http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/housing/2006-06-12-home-des-moines_x.htm) as a reference and then asked:Has anyone decided to move purely for the cost of housing?

Is being separated from the rest of your family worth getting more house? Or maybe a more relaxed lifestyle? (I have to say it seems like it could really be worth it).

Thoughts?

So then that got me to thinking about it. Then I thought I'd ask the question over here and get some of your responses.

Has anyone here done it? Are you or have you thought about it?
Let me know your thoughts.

Caitsmama
06-17-2006, 02:51 PM
For me, leaving my family cannot be replaced by a cheaper cost of living. I love my family,and we are very close. My sister had a beautiful condo in Naples Fl, and just moved back home after a yr and a half to be back with my dd (who is her only niece). So, for me, No. I would not ever move just for the cost of living.. We are only on this earth for a short time, i want to be near my great family for as long as i can!

adisneymama
06-17-2006, 03:08 PM
We have never moved just because of the cost of living. DH's company has us move around a bit. Hasn't bothered me at all to be away from family. I do miss a few family members, but we are not a close knit bunch. I would think that if we could move somewhere and live comfortably and it would be the best idea for us, then yes we would do it.

DawnM
06-17-2006, 04:00 PM
We lived in Los Angeles and after we had kids and they started growing we decided it really would be in our best interest to move, have more land, a bigger house, and a more relaxed style of living.

We sold our 1400 sq. ft. house in SoCal for $600,000 and moved to NC where we could buy a 3,300 sq. ft on 2.5 acres for under $350,000. Our income has dropped (mostly because I stopped working) but we are living much better here on less income than we did in CA.

My parents retired in Phoenix and I do worry about them for the future. We may end up back West (somewhere within driving distance) just to help them when they get to where they can't drive, etc....hopefully that will be years down the road.

Dawn

juligrl
06-17-2006, 05:41 PM
We're already fortunate enough to be in a very affordable housing market area as it is, surrounded by our loving family. We did move over the county line last year though to build our new house where property taxes are lower. Now, instead of being 5 minutes from my parents, we're more like 20 minutes. I can't envision us moving to a cheaper place just for the sake of moving. We have a pretty reasonably price housing market here right outside of Pittsburgh, so even if it just meant switching towns I'm sure we could stay "local".

Steamboat Marti
06-17-2006, 07:17 PM
We did this exact thing for many reasons. Housing was one of the reasons, but not the sole reason. Being around to watch my child grow up was one of the main reasons. People in this area thought it was interesting enough that we had a newspaper article written about it. Here is the link:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050626/SPECIALS0701/506260325/0/SPECIALS07

dznymom3
06-17-2006, 08:18 PM
We moved from California to South Carolina a year and a half ago. One of our deciding factors in the move was cheaper housing. We were able to buy twice as much house as we had in California for a lot less than California. We also wanted a slower pace of life to raise our kids. I am able to stay at home here and I was not able to do that in California. We miss the weather in California but not the hectic pace.

ForTheLoveofDisney
06-17-2006, 08:47 PM
That's a great story Marti. And that's what we've been thinking about. We think with no debt, we wouldn't necessarily need to have soul-sucking jobs just to keep a roof over our heads and the lights on. We're thinking with a move now, it would catapault us ahead financially fifteen years.

I do realize that money is not everything. But, if you don't have a close, tight knit extended family it could be a promising option.

StephMK
06-17-2006, 09:10 PM
We came close enough that we had a plane ticket for DH to interview elsewhere. Both sets of parents are here but we really wanted to be out of this area. Too competitive in the area, schools are great but ultra competitive as well, traffic, pace of life, etc. Hours after we bought the ticket, he got a job offer here. It was one of those - do you take what's offered or wait & see what was possible (not great prospects at the time) out of town. He liked the prospect well enough we're still here for now. I love our immediate neighborhood & friends so we're ok. We're disappointed not to leave but our families are so happy & the kids have their friends.

We struggled w/the decision but yeah, we'd leave family for a quieter lifestyle. It helps to know they would have moved as well if we'd left. Silly that we all stay in a place we don't love for each other!

Great article - that's what I had hoped we'd do.

wrldpossibility
06-17-2006, 09:12 PM
This is an interesting discussion because I did the opposite. We were in a lower cost area, and moved about 10 hours away to be close to family in a higher cost area. It was hard to afford a home, but worth it to be nearby.

I also have two friends who recently moved away for the housing. They were both unable to buy a house in our high cost housing market. One moved to Utah, and the other to NC. They both were able to buy homes, and one of them bought a quite large one. I'm not sure if it was worth it to them or not...both left behind family and roots. I don't know if I could have done the same. One of my friend's mother was just sobbing telling me about the move and how she wouldn't see her grandkids more than once a year at best now. (She saw them every day here.) :guilty:

We live within minutes to family, and can afford a small home here (Southern Oregon, btw). Sometimes it's tempting to move when I think how large a home we could have elsewhere, but it never seems worth it to us. It would break my family's heart (and my kids', to be away from Grandma). So we'll stay here and squeeze into our home! :grouphug:

If we were not emotionally close to family, and if we both had to work full time to support our family (I don't have to work), we'd consider it for sure.

Steamboat Marti
06-17-2006, 09:43 PM
That's a great story Marti. And that's what we've been thinking about. We think with no debt, we wouldn't necessarily need to have soul-sucking jobs just to keep a roof over our heads and the lights on. We're thinking with a move now, it would catapault us ahead financially fifteen years.

I do realize that money is not everything. But, if you don't have a close, tight knit extended family it could be a promising option.


Truthfully, our timing was based on the age of our son. We moved October of first grade. We knew that if we didn't move when he was young enough the transition would be harder each year after. We've NEVER looked back and never been happier!

DawnM
06-17-2006, 09:52 PM
We feel the same. My husband has gotten many offers for promotion and he has turned them down. He feels it isn't worth the money and "prestige" to sacrifice his family time and health. I am happy to live more frugally to have him home more!

Dawn


That's a great story Marti. And that's what we've been thinking about. We think with no debt, we wouldn't necessarily need to have soul-sucking jobs just to keep a roof over our heads and the lights on. We're thinking with a move now, it would catapault us ahead financially fifteen years.

I do realize that money is not everything. But, if you don't have a close, tight knit extended family it could be a promising option.

jeankeri
06-17-2006, 10:22 PM
My cousin and his new wife picked up and moved to North Carolina (where neither of their families live) for affordable housing and job opportunities that were unavailable in the suburbs of Boston. That was 4 years ago, they are living well with no regrets. I give them all the credit- I never could have moved that far away from home in my mid-twenties.

wdwfan1
06-17-2006, 11:57 PM
Steamboat, I enjoyed reading your story. We live on Long Island and it certainly is not cheap!

Good luck in your new home.

shaylahc1
06-18-2006, 06:29 AM
We are getting ready to do something similar, but on a much smaller scale. Right now we live in Apex, NC, and our home has appreciated $70K since we bought it 5 years ago. We are unhappy with the schools here, and have decided to move. Selling our home will allow us to pay off about $60K in debt (2nd mortgage and both cars) and we will move to an area with a cheaper cost of living so we can buy a larger home with more land for less money. We are looking at the rural areas on the outskirts of Charlotte. :bitelip: We estimate the move will save us about $2000 a month in expenses. Might mean the difference between me getting a fulltime job or being able to stay home with my kids which I have done for the last 10 years. DH telecommutes so it doesn't matter where we live, and we have no family here.

DVC Sadie
06-18-2006, 08:30 AM
We moved from Montgomery County Maryland in 1998 down south to help my parents when they needed assistance and stayed. The cost of living, taxes, housing and durable goods in MC was very high plus I didn't like the fast pace of living.

The cost of housing was only a small factor in choosing to stay in a small town. We enjoy the quieter more relaxed lifestyle. The people are nice and we know all of our neighbors. Moving also allowed us to retire very early.

My SIL and her family just moved last Friday from Maryland to South Carolina so they wouldn't have to work constanly just to make their mortgage.

jay-nee
06-18-2006, 08:43 AM
The kids and I are sort of doing this. A couple of years ago, my Mom moved 2 hrs north to live on the same road as my sister and her family. Now, post divorce, the kids and I are moving up there too.

Currently our house is on the market and we've chosen to move from our gentleman's farm to a condo. We are all very excited about the changes. We will be so close to everything! The HS, work, gym, walking paths, grocery store. Everything within 5 minutes - max.

Where we live now, it is a 30 minute drive to anything we need. Plus, we will be only 7 1/2 miles from our family, about 20 minutes, as they live just outside the city. Close enough, but far enough too. ;)

Economically, this is a great move for us, if we can just get the house sold. :) I've never sold a house before and it is so much work...

So, wish us luck! Waiting to move is killing us! Not really, but we are so ready now...

theflowerladee
06-18-2006, 08:44 AM
My DH and I have been considering this for about 2 yrs now, I own my own
business(a florist) and right now between economy and large chain store(ei: costco, pathmark, etc.) we have been struggeling and have had to even
re-fi our house because of business debt. I have 3 ds's and 2 are still
young enough(12 & 5) that I would like to be home at least part of the day.
We are in NJ and it is getting more expensive everyday, We have looked into
the westcoast of FL and it does seem we can get more house for the money and my mother would move with me and my father has a house in fl that he goes to a few months of the year. So basically my biggest obstacle in the
final decision to move is I have 2 years left on my lease AND mortgage on my
business and haven't come up with the best way to sell it. Any suggestions?
I loved reading everyones experiences and hope one day to have a happy
moving story to add. I am concerned though about going back to work for someone else and being tied down to hours that my kids may need me.

barkley
06-18-2006, 09:49 AM
we are in the process of doing this right now. not entirely motivated by the cost of living, but the impact the cost of living has on our family. the town we live in is tiny by california standards, but crazy housing prices have made it a popular and rapidly growing choice for folks who work in the san francisco bay area. as a result alot of kids around here are unsupervised from 6 am till 7 pm (or later) at night, and they tend to get bored and into trouble. our nice quiet town has had an increasing problem with kids and minor crimes, and we just see it getting worse as those kids get older. with long distance commuter/home owners there is also not the close knit neighbor thing-people barely get to know each other.

we sold our house a few weeks ago for almost 3 times what we paid 7 years ago, paid off all our debt and have banked the rest. while we search out a new state to move to we are saving loads by renting (another problem with living in a rapidly expanding town is the drain on existing services-which our town remedied by imposing insane property tax increases and bonds on homeowners).

we know we can buy outright in another state and still have enough such that dh can opt to not work a while (i'm retired) or return to school. but we have an advantage that many don't-my retirement package includes full medical and dental for the family which travels with us coast to coast-without that i would'nt be likely to ever move.

i don't worry so much about the "family" issues-although the bulk of both sides live within close proximity we are not big on spending time together (and frankly dh and i both feel our moving out of state would force some sibs on both sides to "step up to the bat" with helping parents out-we always seem to be the ones everyone knows will take care of everything).

Steamboat Marti
06-18-2006, 12:20 PM
Steamboat, I enjoyed reading your story. We live on Long Island and it certainly is not cheap!

Good luck in your new home.


Thank you! You understand probably more than anybody why we moved. So many people are leaving the Island, its a shame.

Doodlebug939
06-18-2006, 01:15 PM
First off let me say that I am a military wife and so we have moved just about every 4 years for the past twelve. My husband is up for orders again and this time we are trying to find a place that we can afford a house. For example, if we move to Jacksonville Flordia there is no way that I would be able to buy a house. The market is very tight in the area by the base and homes have really shot up in the past 4 years. And if we moved to Fort Worth, TX (My favorite so far) then we could afford a new construction for under 150,000 which is my personal cap on a house. (I want to enjoy my home and not be swollowed up in the payments). So we are looking to be stationed somewhere so we can finally be homeowners after 12 years of renting.

And as for family, we have been away for so long that we are fine with some distance. We both love both of our families but we are always just a plane ticket away and we have unlimited long distance. I realize that it is not the same as having family right down the road. But my husband and I are the babies of each of our families and even though we are in our 30's we are still treated that way. :confused3

vegasnative
06-18-2006, 05:28 PM
We have thought....should say we are still thinking about doing this very thing. We are thinking about "cashing out" so to speak, on our house and moving to someplace where housing costs are cheaper, but also someplace where it is not as busy as where we live now. My problem is, I am the only child, my parents live 6 miles from us, my kids are their only grandkids and I know they would be very sad if we moved. So, family is the only thing stopping us so far. Some say "they make airplanes for a reason", to me, it's not that easy.

Question for both dzneymom and DawnM, how was it going from the West to the East? I have lived my entire life here in the West, and we are considering moving to TN (Knoxville area). What was hard about the change/transition? What do you like better as opposed to the west coast area? What do you miss the most about the west coast area?

Caitsmama
06-18-2006, 06:00 PM
I just wanted to add, if we were not close to our family's, then heck ya, i would move!! Like i said, i just wouldn't do it now, because i am lucky enough to be very close to my family , and my inlaws.. and we all live within 20min of each other.

dznymom3
06-18-2006, 06:41 PM
VEGASNATIVE~For us, the biggest changes were with the weather. We were not used to humidity and bugs. This is our second summer here and we are getting used to the humidity. We have found that the people here in South Carolina are so much friendlier than in California. I don't know how that would compare to other areas on the east coast. Also, we miss all of the really fresh produce we could get in California and good Mexican food. But, those are small sacrifices and we feel we gained so much more. THe slower pace of life, friendly neighbors and not stressing about the mortgage payment are so worth the move!! PM me if you would like.

vellamint
06-18-2006, 09:01 PM
Thank you! You understand probably more than anybody why we moved. So many people are leaving the Island, its a shame.


Living on Long Island too......just not lucky enough to have a spouse that agrees with me (and you) about the cost of living. All we do is work to support the house and there is nothing left over every month. EVERYTHING is so sky-hi in price I hate it. Actually starting to think I will eventually just leave by myself - tired of this rat race (JK - not JK - lol). I have friends in Florida and would like to check it out....maybe a nice little condo or something....

Cinderpals
06-18-2006, 09:19 PM
Yes!!! I've thought about this many times over the past 3 years. My parents have passed away, my In-laws are on the other coast anyway, my Sis and her family live in California and my Brother-in-law live out West too. So, we're free to move wherever we want to. We currently live in a very competitive, environment. People are always in a hurry, and everything is constantly moving, well, except for traffic. We've been fortunate that we were able to buy stuff before it went out of control. I get to stay at home, but I'm looking for someway to make money from home just to keep my brain alive. I'm sick of volunteering!! I've done my time...even saying that, I still manage to volunteer my time...that will never change.

I just wanted to move 40 minutes from here where you can get some land and built a nice size, but manageable house for less than what we could sell our house for....it would be very nice to do that. I'm looking to move down, just to have less house to maintain. I don't like having to clean 4 1/2 bathrooms, guest rooms that don't get used etc...We live in a family oriented neighborhood & my husbands commute time is 7 minutes door to bldg!! We don't need to send our two children to private schools, eventhough, I'm constantly evaluating them. Schools are top rated, incomes are fairly good...I like the parks, recreation activities, free museums etc...there is a lot that goes on here...We've made some nice friends, but not tied down to live here at all. We do have a house in a mountain/lake community that is close enough to go to often. It's very peaceful there!! I could see us moving there when my oldest goes to college! That would be nice:)

I could see why people would look to do that now...Life's too short not to live where you can work/live stress free. There are many beautiful, affordable places to live in this country.

mt2
06-19-2006, 09:54 AM
First off let me say that I am a military wife and so we have moved just about every 4 years for the past twelve. My husband is up for orders again and this time we are trying to find a place that we can afford a house. For example, if we move to Jacksonville Flordia there is no way that I would be able to buy a house. The market is very tight in the area by the base and homes have really shot up in the past 4 years. And if we moved to Fort Worth, TX (My favorite so far) then we could afford a new construction for under 150,000 which is my personal cap on a house. (I want to enjoy my home and not be swollowed up in the payments). So we are looking to be stationed somewhere so we can finally be homeowners after 12 years of renting.

And as for family, we have been away for so long that we are fine with some distance. We both love both of our families but we are always just a plane ticket away and we have unlimited long distance. I realize that it is not the same as having family right down the road. But my husband and I are the babies of each of our families and even though we are in our 30's we are still treated that way. :confused3


I could have written this. ;)

Our families live in Houston while we are in Ft Worth. We are 4 1/2 hrs away but it seems the roads only go in one direction, North. They can never come to see us but will drive to Austin (4 hrs from Houston) to see Blue's Clues. :confused3 Family is important to my IL's only when it benifits them. When we lived 1 mile away they were always too busy to see their grandDD's. You'll be there after the movie, church, or swimming. Well we weren't. DH was transfered.

MIL told my DH that he should be humble and take a lesser paying job to be with "the family". He told her that he was with his family. His wife and 3 children.

We are much happier being away from "the family" (both sides. mine are far from perfect). We are taking care of "our family".

kinntj
06-19-2006, 10:55 AM
We did move from California to Michigan to be closer to family. It really eased the stress of house payment, but we don't see family much more than we did when we lived across the country. My IL's live 15 minutes from us, but I don't like them enough to go out of my way. My parents still live a 10 hour drive, so we only take that trip once a year while the kids are young.

I would say overall the move was a good thing. At this point we would only sell our current house if we had to. The market stinks in this area right now and it would take a very long time to sell it. Not worth the hassle at this time. I'm thinking at least 5 years in this house at least. We would love to retire in a nice affordable area in a decent sized ranch for kids to come visit.

I would definately take a long time to decide on when to sell for the sake of being debt free and living close to family. Selling a house is a huge undertaking and both times we did it, DH's companies paid for packing, moving and transferring (even the commissions of realtors).

golden1
06-19-2006, 01:02 PM
I've considered this. We live in suburban MA and our house payment plus the general cost of living makes it really hard to live here on just one income. I have very little discretionary income and everytime my DH gets a raise, the property taxes go up or something else happens so it seems like it is impossible to get ahead. Until I go back to work, we are living really close to the edge. Part of me would love to move to NH or southern Maine where I could get a much nicer house for much less $$$$. However, my parents and DH's parents live here and we are really close with my ILs. I would really hate to move away.

ceecee
06-19-2006, 01:07 PM
My nephew got married and got a job offer in another state and they moved, they have since had a baby and they both really want to come home. The cost of living is moderate around here, but he is making $30,000 more a year where he is and the housing cost is pretty compariable. He is still checking for jobs in Ohio because with the baby they really want to come home. (And of course we would love it). So for some people it works and for others it doesn't. There is something to be said for family support.

MEM
06-19-2006, 01:09 PM
We did this exact thing for many reasons. Housing was one of the reasons, but not the sole reason. Being around to watch my child grow up was one of the main reasons. People in this area thought it was interesting enough that we had a newspaper article written about it. Here is the link:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050626/SPECIALS0701/506260325/0/SPECIALS07

Neat article, but what the heck is a "white hot"??? You said you would not eat one??

Christypl
06-19-2006, 01:17 PM
We did it.
We lived in central fl and owned a beautiful home. The military moved us to Hawaii and we couldnt afford to buy anything decent. Although it was a great place and we would have loved to retire there unless we lived in our car we could not. So we moved back to central FL only to find houses had gone sky high. We just bought a great house in north Ga.

ForTheLoveofDisney
06-19-2006, 02:11 PM
I could have written this. ;)

Our families live in Houston while we are in Ft Worth. We are 4 1/2 hrs away but it seems the roads only go in one direction, North. They can never come to see us but will drive to Austin (4 hrs from Houston) to see Blue's Clues. :confused3 Family is important to my IL's only when it benifits them. When we lived 1 mile away they were always too busy to see their grandDD's. You'll be there after the movie, church, or swimming. Well we weren't. DH was transfered.

MIL told my DH that he should be humble and take a lesser paying job to be with "the family". He told her that he was with his family. His wife and 3 children.

We are much happier being away from "the family" (both sides. mine are far from perfect). We are taking care of "our family".
I'm so glad you posted on this thread. I smiled when I read that last part about "We are taking care of 'our family'." :) The #1 reason that would keep me here would be my family if we could be closer in a family sort of way (we're already close mile wise). DH's ready to be gone! But, try as I might I feel like I'm always on the outside for everything! Without going into too much detail it is evident that it really isn't ever going to be that way and like you in regards to your ILs "You'll be there after movie, church, or swimming" I'll always get whatever's left and if it is convenient. If it doesn't interfere with any other plans they might already have. Whatever, it is what it is and I've tried my best to go above and beyond to fix it but I can only do so much on my end. And quite frankly after the rude awakening I had this weekend I'm feeling pretty much over "stay for the sake of family" :rolleyes: . But, I'm digressing... :blush:
Anyway, several times I've brought up to my DH about staying because of the family and he has said very sincerely and heartfelt that to him we are the family. Just he and I. And "our" family and taking care of our family is the only family that matters! For some time I did not think that it could be enough, just he and I but truly I believe it could be.

And I've seen several posts on here from military families and I must admit I have smidgen of envy. :blush: So many times I think it would be easier if we had to go where we were sent. I know that is a crazy notion I'm sure but just the thought that we didn't have a choice and then the result that I've seen from some is once they are out of the military they aren't afraid to go live somewhere else that they'd really love to call home because they've already done it their whole military career and they have the confidence to do it.

Va-bear
06-19-2006, 04:26 PM
After 15 years of being all over, I moved home with my hubby and kids in tow and am thankful every single day. I lived all over for different reasons - school, jobs, etc.... but moved back to where my sisters and parents lived a few years ago. I worried that my husband might not like it, or that we'd wish we had a bigger house, better job, or whatever. But, boy, you can't replace family - as we sat around the grill watching the kids in the sprinkler last night I reminded myself that again. To have my boys grow up with their cousin, grandmother, aunts has been the best thing ever. I would have said I wasn't that "into" family a few years ago....and really, my sisters and I aren't that crazy kind of close... but I am glad I did it for my sons. People just aren't togehter with their extended families liket they used to be and I can't help but think they will benefit by being near theirs. Maybe I could have been a "bigger" scientist elsewhere but that's ok I'll just be an ok scientist here with really happy kids who know there granmothers favorite kind of icecream! :)

Va-bear
06-19-2006, 04:34 PM
Maybe I should throw in that I have a very nice family that I enjoy seeing and vice versa. (WE could never live near my husbands family! :) ) So, you have to decide on a case to case basis. Good luck to all!

giasmom
06-19-2006, 04:43 PM
We are doing this right now, we actually just closed on our home today. We live in Northern Virginia and have/had a 1900 SF town home that we bought 3 years ago for $235K. We have a DD and want another one but don't feel there is enough room in our house for a 2nd child. I also didn't want to work when we have our next baby, and we couldn't afford our mortgage and 2 kids on DH salary alone. We ended up selling our home for $400K, with the money we made we were able to put a huge down payment on a 3,100 SF home in Richmond VA, pay off all our dept except for one car, and I can now be a stay at home mom.

My family is in NY so we are now 2 hours farther away from them so we ended up sacrificing being farther away. But now I won't have to work anymore and I'll be able to stay home with my babies.

Very well worth it for us.

*Flower*
06-19-2006, 07:55 PM
We did this exact thing for many reasons. Housing was one of the reasons, but not the sole reason. Being around to watch my child grow up was one of the main reasons. People in this area thought it was interesting enough that we had a newspaper article written about it. Here is the link:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050626/SPECIALS0701/506260325/0/SPECIALS07

Great article- and congratulations!

*Flower*
06-19-2006, 07:57 PM
We moved from California to South Carolina a year and a half ago. One of our deciding factors in the move was cheaper housing. We were able to buy twice as much house as we had in California for a lot less than California. We also wanted a slower pace of life to raise our kids. I am able to stay at home here and I was not able to do that in California. We miss the weather in California but not the hectic pace.

Where did you move from- and where are you now?

Just curious....

I'm from SoCal and live here too.

Welcome!

DawnM
06-19-2006, 09:46 PM
I am not the poster you quoted but we moved to Charlotte, NC from Pasadena, CA. We owned a 1,400 sq. ft house there on .16 of an acre. It sold for $600,000. We bought a 3500 sq. ft. house on 2.5 acres here for a little over 1/2 of that.

The hard thing is we feel like with the cost of living there we can never move back unless we want to both work full time and have the kids in full time school and after school care.

Dawn

Where did you move from- and where are you now?

Just curious....

I'm from SoCal and live here too.

Welcome!

Steamboat Marti
06-19-2006, 11:52 PM
Neat article, but what the heck is a "white hot"??? You said you would not eat one??


It is a "white" hot dog -- god only knows what goes into it, but it doesn't taste like anything else I've ever had. And people here go NUTZ for it! They love it - yuch! Just a prime example of how things are different in your new neighborhood!

*Flower*
06-20-2006, 05:48 AM
I am not the poster you quoted but we moved to Charlotte, NC from Pasadena, CA. We owned a 1,400 sq. ft house there on .16 of an acre. It sold for $600,000. We bought a 3500 sq. ft. house on 2.5 acres here for a little over 1/2 of that.

The hard thing is we feel like with the cost of living there we can never move back unless we want to both work full time and have the kids in full time school and after school care.

Dawn

I know- we left (not for good- we thought) when DH got transferred overseas with the Navy.

The house that we own here, we wouldn't be able to afford out in the SFV (where we're both from). So we visit every so often to see family.

You did the right thing for your family though-

DawnM
06-20-2006, 06:06 AM
I think I have a bit of an advantage in that neither of us were FROM CA. DH's family is in Michigan and I grew up overseas. My Dad's family is in WA state and my Mom's family is in SC.

I don't really have a place in the US to call "home" although I lived in CA longer than anywhere else and made my home there from age 22 on.

I am not sure we will be in NC forever. I like it, but it just doesn't feel like "home". I am not sure anywhere ever will really.

Dawn

I know- we left (not for good- we thought) when DH got transferred overseas with the Navy.

The house that we own here, we wouldn't be able to afford out in the SFV (where we're both from). So we visit every so often to see family.

You did the right thing for your family though-

dznymom3
06-20-2006, 06:45 AM
Where did you move from- and where are you now?

Just curious....

I'm from SoCal and live here too.

Welcome!

We lived in Sacramento, CA and now live in the Summerville area.

*Flower*
06-20-2006, 08:46 AM
DawnM-

I totally agree~
I have a bit of family left out there, but I don't really feel 'at home' anymore.

Who knows, maybe we'll move again when we finish our second careers.


dznymom3-

You're just up the road from me!
Welcome to the area.... I live off of Dorchester Rd.

GJM
06-20-2006, 09:05 AM
We are thinking about making a move from NJ to SC. We could sell our house here and pay cash for a new house down there. My DH feels we work to pay our mortgage. DS is starting lst. grade this year so if we make the move we want to do it soon.

We both grew up in NJ and all our family is here. It would be hard to leave and I think more for the fact that my DS is an only child and I like that his cousins and everyone is around. But SC is only about 12 hours away.

We feel it would just be much less stress, not worrying paying for the mortgage, plus I can't stand the winters anymore.

Our house is over 50 years old is a Cape Cod house and could sell for about $470,000 in my area!

My DH could just pick up and leave, I'm the one that worries if I could adjust or if I will miss being so close to family.

DH has been down there to check our the area and loved it, we are all going next weekend so I can see the area.

Good Luck!

ForTheLoveofDisney
06-20-2006, 09:28 AM
We are thinking about making a move from NJ to SC. We could sell our house here and pay cash for a new house down there. My DH feels we work to pay our mortgage. DS is starting lst. grade this year so if we make the move we want to do it soon.

We both grew up in NJ and all our family is here. It would be hard to leave and I think more for the fact that my DS is an only child and I like that his cousins and everyone is around. But SC is only about 12 hours away.

We feel it would just be much less stress, not worrying paying for the mortgage, plus I can't stand the winters anymore.

Our house is over 50 years old is a Cape Cod house and could sell for about $470,000 in my area!

My DH could just pick up and leave, I'm the one that worries if I could adjust or if I will miss being so close to family.

DH has been down there to check our the area and loved it, we are all going next weekend so I can see the area.

Good Luck!
Hi GJM, :wave:
I'm originally from NJ too, Cape May County. Like your husband, my DH could just pick up and leave too.

We are seriously looking at SC too. We are looking into the Upstate around the Greenville, Anderson, Oconee counties. Especially looking to be near Clemson University.

I see alot of people looking at the Carolinas and then I notice that they are mostly looking at the coastal areas.

Like several others have said, Delaware just doesn't feel like home to me. And we look forward to having less stress from not having to work just to pay for the mortgage.

GJM
06-20-2006, 10:10 AM
ForTheLoveofDisney - We currently live in Bergen County - we are looking in Myrtle Beach in a division called Carolina Forest, I will be going down next week to see the area. It really is a tough choice to make, I'm afraid if we hate it, and wanted to come back, we wouldn't be able to afford a house in Bergen County, we purchased our house right before the prices went up.

ForTheLoveofDisney
06-20-2006, 10:26 AM
ForTheLoveofDisney - We currently live in Bergen County - we are looking in Myrtle Beach in a division called Carolina Forest, I will be going down next week to see the area. It really is a tough choice to make, I'm afraid if we hate it, and wanted to come back, we wouldn't be able to afford a house in Bergen County, we purchased our house right before the prices went up.
We're in the same situation. We wouldn't be able to afford to move back if we didn't love it. So, that's why this decision is even more important because it's not like if we don't like it we can come back.
I've found a great board that I've started really frequenting. It's called City-Data Forum (http://www.city-data.com/forum/) . It's like the Dis and they have a board for South Carolina. Might be worth checking into if you had any questions about the area.

DawnM
06-20-2006, 02:41 PM
We were in that same situation moving from CA....we know we can't afford to ever move back without both of us working full time and the kids in school and after-school programs.

It was worth it for us.

Dawn


We're in the same situation. We wouldn't be able to afford to move back if we didn't love it. So, that's why this decision is even more important because it's not like if we don't like it we can come back.
I've found a great board that I've started really frequenting. It's called City-Data Forum (http://www.city-data.com/forum/) . It's like the Dis and they have a board for South Carolina. Might be worth checking into if you had any questions about the area.

mill4023
06-20-2006, 04:41 PM
This is an interesting discussion because I did the opposite. We were in a lower cost area, and moved about 10 hours away to be close to family in a higher cost area. It was hard to afford a home, but worth it to be nearby.

I also have two friends who recently moved away for the housing. They were both unable to buy a house in our high cost housing market. One moved to Utah, and the other to NC. They both were able to buy homes, and one of them bought a quite large one. I'm not sure if it was worth it to them or not...both left behind family and roots. I don't know if I could have done the same. One of my friend's mother was just sobbing telling me about the move and how she wouldn't see her grandkids more than once a year at best now. (She saw them every day here.) :guilty:

We live within minutes to family, and can afford a small home here (Southern Oregon, btw). Sometimes it's tempting to move when I think how large a home we could have elsewhere, but it never seems worth it to us. It would break my family's heart (and my kids', to be away from Grandma). So we'll stay here and squeeze into our home! :grouphug:

If we were not emotionally close to family, and if we both had to work full time to support our family (I don't have to work), we'd consider it for sure.
Hey there. DW and I both grew up in Eugene, OR, then lived in Southern Oregon (Ashland then Eagle Point) for about 7 years before moving to Charlotte, NC about 6 weeks ago.

Affordable housing was not the only reason we moved, but it was certainly a major factor. For DW, being a SAHM with 4 kids in a 3 bdrm 1400 sq. ft house was getting a little crowded. So the idea of being able to sell our house for 285k and buy a brand new 3500 sq. ft house in NC for 275k was too good to pass up.
The other reasons we moved were for better job opportunities for me(there aren't many jobs for software developers in Southern Oregon), better educational opportunity for DW (she'd like to do something in the medical field once our youngest is in school), and better schools for our kids.

KnoxDisney
06-20-2006, 09:17 PM
Question for both dzneymom and DawnM, how was it going from the West to the East? I have lived my entire life here in the West, and we are considering moving to TN (Knoxville area). What was hard about the change/transition? What do you like better as opposed to the west coast area? What do you miss the most about the west coast area?[/QUOTE]


We moved from Michigan to Knoxville three years ago. It was a HUGE adjustment, but I would never go back. In fact, we just returned from a visit with my in-laws in Michigan. People, traffic, and attitudes~we do not miss. Knoxville is wonderful. I am a high school teacher and my husband is a police officer for the city. We have adjusted great. The only thing I miss is the shopping! But I must say the shopping here has gotten better. The area is growing!

Good luck with your decision