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pluto109
10-23-2001, 05:01 PM
dvc stopped mailing the new pins..legal problems...just got off the phone with my salesman...he said only 20% of members got them..

pluto109
10-23-2001, 05:02 PM
they will be a collectors item....

Olaf
10-23-2001, 05:04 PM
What kind of legal problems?

pluto109
10-23-2001, 05:19 PM
he did not say...he said that no one will be getting them anymore...also that they will be very valuable...

pluto109
10-23-2001, 06:33 PM
bump

Regina
10-23-2001, 06:50 PM
I just got mine today.

Let's hope that your salesman was misinformed and that everyone gets them.

Olaf
10-23-2001, 07:48 PM
I'd like to hope this is going to be a valuable pin, but I seriously doubt it. The numbers are against that. If only 20 % got them, that's at least 20,000 pins. A rare pin is 500-1000 limited edition. But, who knows, demand could push it up.

Dizzy4Dizney
10-23-2001, 07:51 PM
Interesting........

If true, I guess the person who bought the pin on
eBay for $112 got a good deal.

Hope everyone gets one and this rumor is wrong.

Pixie_Dust
10-23-2001, 08:08 PM
Dizzy, love your avatar.

We got our pins yesterday and they look great, although the stars and stripes kind of tended to "commemorate" something I didn't need to be reminded of.

As for the pins being "valuable," how many times have you heard someone say that about a pin, but then have you ever actually found anyone willing to buy any of your pins (or any "collectible") for more than you paid? Like all "collector's items" the money seems to flow only one way: out of your pockets. In terms of pins I decided their "value" lies only in whether you think they look cool.

Cheers :)

pluto109
10-24-2001, 06:13 AM
10 23 01

gemini14
10-24-2001, 08:35 AM
I hope this is not true and DVC will figure this problem out. I'm still waiting and hoping for mine. As all other DVC members who have not recieved theirs yet. :(

mkkim
10-24-2001, 08:44 AM
Well, it would be nice to receive the pins but I have a feeling my pins may be sitting in the Trenton post office waiting for decontamination. If that is so we may never see them anyway. It's the least of my worries right now. We haven't even received any mail in the last few days. I am worried about all those good people who are processing our mail. I hope for the best for them! We leave for our first ever visit as DVC members in 13 days. It's one nice thing to look forward to!

Beth
10-24-2001, 12:01 PM
I had pluto109's information confirmed by a "reliable source."

Apparently, there were complaints from some members that it was inappropriate for Disney/DVC to associate DVC & Mickey with such a tragic event.

I, on the other hand, don't agree with this opinion, and am very disappointed that I will not be receiving my pins.

sgtpet
10-24-2001, 12:32 PM
Who is against this? I think it is nice to show that Disney and DVC express support to the tragedies of 9/11.

lodgelady
10-24-2001, 12:44 PM
there is always another voice out there saying something that never crossed your mind! I just received my pins yesterday. Today I called my guide to thank him for the DVC's nice gesture. I really liked the pins! Now, I suppose if my relatives were living in Afghanistan I wouldn't be too thrilled, but in the wake of people not wanting to travel cause of Sept 11, I thought it was encouraging.

Califgirl
10-24-2001, 12:50 PM
I was at a resort using DVC points on 9-11-01. Not only did the resort go out of their way to have things for the kids and families to do since the parks were closed, MS also allowed me to cancel a few nights without losing my points. So ... when I got my pins the first thing I did was e-mail MS with a thank you note. I praised the pins and their wonderful service to DVC members at this difficult time.

My suggestion is, if you like the pins and enjoy wearing them (especially if they remind you of a wonderful DVC vacation, or if MS somehow helped you during this difficult time by letting you retain points from a canceled ressie) then TELL them. Why is it the complainers always win? I guess because sometimes we forget to tell them how much we appreciate what they do for us.

(now, don't flame me. I know lots of you have sent MS thank you e-mails. It just amazes me that people are actually complaining about these pins - DVC is giving them to us, not charging us inflated (or otherwise) prices for them. Let's let them realize that the complainers are in the minority .. at least I hope they are!)

Fenceman
10-24-2001, 05:21 PM
We were very happy when we received our pins and suprised that we received 2 of them.

I also thought it was a very nice touch and I agree with you Califgirl.

You will not see our pins on E-bay, just on our lapels.

BobBrazeal
10-24-2001, 05:29 PM
I too sent a thank you the day I got mine.

Olaf
10-24-2001, 05:58 PM
What kind of moron would complain about these pins? It's not as if they're selling them--even if they were, big deal. I think they're wonderful and I'm so happy to have two. :earsboy:

wdwoldtimer
10-25-2001, 11:29 AM
Basically someone will always find a reason to complain about something. Usually when there's good intentions too. Ever notice how Disney is always such an easy target for people? The economy is down. There's layoffs all over the place. Disney does a little belt tightening and temporarily stops EE, E-Tick night and cuts back on hours. Disappointing, yes. Upsetting if you are the type to plan your Disney vacation down to each individual minute and were counting on EE? Yeah, it's upsetting. But geez, Disney is not the evil empire. They aren't out to screw us all over and rake in the profits by giving us less magic than we're used to. They aren't trying rip people off. Give them a break. All the anger I've been reading...the calls for boycotting WDW....the complaining and whining....it's pathetic.

The pins were free. Yet it was not free for Disney to design, manufacture and distribute them. They did it as a gesture to their extended "family" during these troubling times. If they did nothing, you'd probably hear complaints that they should have done something. The DVC has always tried to treat their members like family.

Hmm...I wonder if the complaints were from non-American DVC members? Or did they not send the pins to non-American DVC members? You see how impossible it is to do ANYTHING politically correct anymore?

Well I also appreciate the gesture and we're very happy with our pins.....and you won't find them on eBay either!

Terry S
10-25-2001, 11:44 AM
Those pins which are the same ones that are available at WDW only without the inscription on the back are sold out all around WDW and have been since the tragedy. I was very lucky on Oct 5th and walked by the Pin station at Epcot in America and they had just received a batch of 200 of them. I bought 4 of them, one for each member of my family. I was then standing watching the parade and 20 people asked me where I got it, one of them went right over to the pin station and came back and told me they were sold out. That was 15 minutes later. So apparantly everyone does not have the same opinion on the pins.

Olaf
10-25-2001, 11:54 AM
I don't think the DVC pin is the same pin as those sold at Epcot. The DVC one has more stripes and stars on them.

http://www.dizpins.com/pics/WDW_mickeyflag101901.gif
Epcot Pin

http://www.pinpics.com/img/p151/pin7562
DVC Pin

In my totally unbiased opinion:rolleyes: the DVC pin is purttier.

Terry S
10-25-2001, 11:58 AM
I stand corrected, they are completely different pins. LOL!

Denine
10-25-2001, 12:39 PM
We just got home yesterday from a week on the Magic and 3 days at OKW. We looked all over for the American Mickey pin and were disappointed to find they were all sold out. Then one of the CM's told me that DVC was mailing out pins commemerating the tragedy to all it's members. We were delighted to arrive home yesterday to find not one, but 2 pins. They are wonderful and I plan on wearing one on my uniform at work and the other on my lanyard.
I will be sure to send an e-mail to MS thanking them for the pin.

Granny
10-25-2001, 01:06 PM
I think (and hope) that MS has gotten lots of thank you e-mails for the pins.

I sent a thank you note detailing how nice they were to do this without having to and assuring them that we would continue to come to WDW on a regular basis.

I received their two word response...."thank you". Literally, that was the total response. I figured they are so busy with e-mails that they didn't have time to put in any flowery, corporate language.

I wasn't really asking for or expecting any response anyway. It was just kind of weird to open my e-mail and see only those two words.

I also thought it was a touch of class to send two pins (and told them so). I think everyone would have been thrilled to get one, but getting two was even better.

Beautiful pin....we are framing them in the card.

Magicmom
10-25-2001, 02:00 PM
We got our pins. At first I did not think much about their collectability. Upon further reflection, I think they will be collectors items, especially with the card and the quote from Walt Disney. Given the magnitude of the event they signify in remembrance, their historical value alone can not compare to other limited edition run-of-the-mill Disney pins. I agree with the sentiment about the whiners who ruin it for us all. I learned from the cruise discussion board that due to complaints about gifts of alcohol, we will not be receiving the usual bottle of Moet Chandon when we do the Disney cruise on points on 11/10. It was nice to have offer to our tablemates the last cruise. I guess there are DVCers out there who elect to look a gift mouse in the mouth.

Tony-NJ
10-25-2001, 02:07 PM
and thought they were wonderful gestures. As was the quote from Walt. I'm sorry to hear that all DVC'ers will not be getting them.

horn10
10-25-2001, 06:22 PM
** I emailed MS yesterday about the information floating around on the board. I asked if all members would be receiving the pins and if not, why. I told them we had not received ours yet and this is the reply I got today..

Lynne,
The pin was originally designed as a onetime gift for DVC Members in the United
States and Puerto Rico. We ask that you please be patient with the mail. If
you do not receive your pin by December 1, 2001, then contact Member Services.

The Disney Vacation Club

gemini14
10-26-2001, 10:22 AM
Still no pins here for me. :( I was wondering though, if I wait until Dec. as the post above says and call MS. Do they have some kind of check list to see who has and has not received their pins??? I would hate to see more pins being sold on Ebay.

DisneyJen
10-26-2001, 10:47 AM
I emailed MS to thank them for the pins (one of which I have worn everday since they arrived.

Here is their response to me along with my original email to MS:

Jennifer,

You're Welcome. We am glad to see you are enjoying the pin so much.

The Disney Vacation Club


Original Message Follows:
-------------------------

Dear DVC Cast Members:

Thank you so much for the wonderfully patriotic Mickey Mouse pins. Ours arrived yesterday and I proudly replaced the American Flag and ribbon that I have been wearing since Sept. 12 with my pin.

Walt would be so proud of the thought that went behind this gesture.

Many people at work have commented on what a wonderful pin. When I explain the reasoning behind the pin and show them the wonderful card they have a better understanding of what America and Disney mean to me.

I have read that DVC has received some complaints from some members about the appropriateness of this gesture. As a Disney stockholder, Disney Vacation Club member (member number XXXX), a former and soon-to-be-again Annual Passholder, and a 30 plus time visitor to Walt Disney World, I say thank you and well done.

Thank you for giving me a daily reminder that family and memories and freedom are the American way.

Thank you for giving me a daily reminder to pause and reflect, in these most hectic and unsure of times, on what it was like to be an American before Sept.11 and more importantly after Sept. 11.

Thank you for giving me a daily reminder that my family (my husband, my daughter, my parents and my siblings) and I will come celebrate my 40th birthday in May 2002 at my real "home" ...

the place where I am happiest,
the place where I find great joy,
the place where incredible memories have been made ....
and will continue to be made,
the place where magic happens everyday.

I share this quote with you since I know how hard it must be to be a cast member with all the changes that are happening (the shortening of your hours and the impact this tragic event is having on your livelihood) ...

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could actually have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs
and comes short again and again. Because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know
neither victory nor defeat."

Theodore Roosevelt

Thank you for upholding Walt's dream,
Thank you for creating the magic

wdwendyd
10-26-2001, 11:11 AM
DisneyJen-
Your Thank You letter is so beautiful that it brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for sharing it with us! :)

DisneyJen
10-26-2001, 11:48 AM
Thanks for the kind words Wendy...

I really meant every word that I wrote and I am sure that there are many DVCers who feel the same way.

Let's all keep thanking those cast members who help to keep Walt's dream alive.

Granny
10-26-2001, 12:09 PM
DisneyJen

Your beautiful words are inspirational to all. I wrote a thank you as well, but not nearly so eloquently as yours.

I have only had the opportunity to take the family to WDW a couple of times. Now as a DVC member that will change. I can only hope we are able to capture the magic as well as you have.

Thanks for sharing your feelings so well.

DisneyJen
10-26-2001, 12:34 PM
Granny I am sure that you will find, like many of your fellow DVCers, that the magical memories are much easier to make because there is no place like "home!"

Even with all the changes that have taken place and are yet to come ... both worlds ... the Real world and WDW ... are magical:D

Olaf
10-26-2001, 01:18 PM
OH Jen, you gave me goosebumps.