No Tapestry of Dreams???

[Josiah Harper]

Hopefully, the official Disney site is erroneous, but Tapestry of Dreams is not listed as a parade option from October 27 through October 31.

Has anyone heard anthing "official" about this? Or is this merely a Web master's oversight?

Joe

[OKWgal]

There is no oversight, there is no ToD for those days. I called CRO and confirmed it and have started making new plans.

Did you notice MK has no FW the same days and MGM closes at 6:30, also.

[greenhornet]

Does that mean when i go there Nov. 12-16 I will not beable to see ToD?
That was one of the reasons i'm going down to see all of the Parades.:(:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[Josiah Harper]

Y'know, I can deal with earlier closings, but when Disney cancels a parade that's being touted as part of the 100 Years of Magic Celebration--i.e., Tapestry of Dreams--the Company has reached a new low in terms of business ethics. After all, they're pumping the PR machine globally very very hard for this Celebration, and then refuse to deliver one of the related events! (Never mind that it's essentially the same as the Tapestry of Nations; the point is, they're not marketing it that way.) I can deal with no fireworks at the MK--after all, they're not part of the Celebration, per se--but this new move just bites the big one!

Joe

[disneyking]

The new times are 6:30 on Fri and 6:30 & 8:10 on Sat. I just confirmed this with special CRO rep. That called to reschedule our cancelled 9:30 PM Hoop Dee Doo...

[Dizzy4Dizney]

My DH just called and they "had no information for the ToD parade after Oct 27".
I just hope they are getting their act together and will have at least 1 parade during
the week.

[WiseGirl]

I read about ToD only happening on Saturdays on the DVC board and thought I'd check here to see if anyone had other information. Our trip is in a couple of days. I agree that cutting ToD to one day a week is really low when it is advertised as part of the 100th celebration! I loved ToN and was really looking forward to seeing it. Let's hope it happens more than once a week. I wonder what will be axed tomorrow when I log on?

[isnkr]

Ok...let me get this straight....The park hours change - I can deal with that. EE no more - now you've got my attention. Now they cancel the ToD except on the weekends. Holy smokes!!!

I understand business and I understand the need to make cost cutting moves - but charging me the same for my passes and still reducing the attactions...what gives? I'm a DVC member and I will continue to go to the parks, but I have been loyal - no car rental, stay on property...etc. and this is the thanks I get....."thanks for nuttin Danny."

Hopefully these are temporary moves and once the economy rebounds the parks will as well.

One last thing - BRING BACK THE BREAKFAST BUFFET AT SPOODLES.:mad:

[TXDeb]

If Disney cancels all weekday shows, fireworks and parades, that will sure make it hard for those who come from out of town, out of state, or out of the country, to be able to see those things, especially if they are only going to be at WDW for one weekend during their stay.

With all the other cuts, this would just give people another reason to cancel or at least delay trips.

What a Catch-22 WDW is getting itself into.

[Dream]

Folks...could this be a security issue rather than a monetary issue? Just a thought.

[Dizzy4Dizney]

How do you mean a security issue? Is Bin Laden sending secret messages in the parade or something???

[toefungus]

Folks...could this be a security issue rather than a monetary issue?
Uhhhh.....no.
How do you mean a security issue? Is Bin Laden sending secret messages in the parade or something???
LOL!! He's warping all the minds of our children to follow him!! :D

[YoHo]

Has this been confirmed? Last I heard no shows were cancelled

[Josiah Harper]

Hopefully, YoHo, what you heard is correct. I posed the original question about ToD on the basis of no listing of the parade on the official Walt Disney World Web site.

It certainly doesn't make sense--particularly in light of the fact that World Showcase is the only (section of a) park open from 7 until 9 p.m.--and with no ToD, there'll be very little to do besides eat and shop.

Hmmm--or could that be Disney's plan????

Joe

[EpcotMom]

Its for real. Its even been on the news here, in the papers..Sad, they haven't thought of the most obvious solution. Lower tix and people will more than likely return, spending much needed tourist dollars on food and souvies!

[YoHo]

Cut every day of the week? including weekends?

[Dream]

By security issue I mean perhaps Disney wants to avoid large groups of people standing together to watch a parade. Prime targets there folks. These are strange times.

[Josh]

...Disney hasn't canceled any of its other parades. Why would Tapestry of Dreams be such a target?

Sorry, but that theory just doesn't check!

[CarolMN]

Until I hear it from someone who's actually been there (or until Disney actually puts out an official announcement), I refuse to believe that ToD (or any parade) has been cancelled. We've all read the posts that say Disney is only setting hours, etc. one week in advance. This I do believe.

Disney's web site has been notoriously UNRELIABLE for quite a while - now is not the time to start relying on it! By the time they have next week's hours decided and communicated and posted, it will be well into November! LOL!

I would prefer that Disney get its acts and communications in better sync, but having worked in a large, multi-departmental corporation, these kind of communication problems don't surprise me in the least (bureaucrats change/move S_L_O_W_L_Y) .

Sign me -

"Waiting to hear first hand reports from those who visit next week"

[DebbieB]

By security issue I mean perhaps Disney wants to avoid large groups of people standing together to watch a parade. Prime targets there folks. These are strange times.

By only having it one or two days a week, the crowds will be huge on those days for the parade. That would create more of a security issue. The times I saw Tapestry of Nations, the crowds were managable, not enough to create a major security issue.

The part that bugs me is that everything is being moved to weekends only. How will people who only have 1 week or less at WDW be able to see everything?

[mktiggerman]

I can deal w/ no ToD..

[toefungus]

By security issue I mean perhaps Disney wants to avoid large groups of people standing together to watch a parade. Prime targets there folks. These are strange times.
If they wouldn't want large groups of people gathering, then cancel Fantasmic, all the parades, heck just close all the parks because there are large groups waiting to get in. Or heck, just let the terrorists win and close the parks all together.:rolleyes: If ToD were cancelled, it would be to save $. I sure hope they don't!! :(

[Sandy Fisher]

Over recent weeks I've tried to adjust my way of thinking to accept closed attractions, shorter hours, later openings, etc. But just suppose those of us who travel over 1,000 miles and have only one weekend during our trip, would like to see MK fireworks AND ToD and Illuminations, how do they suggest we do it? Are we expected to watch the early ToD, race to MK to see their fireworks and just forget about Illuminations? Or should we stay at Epcot and see ToD and Illuminations and just forget MK altogether. There seems to be no common sense involved in some of these decisions. We can't afford to cancel at this late date, but push is coming to shove and there really needs to be an end to all the cutting. It is so sad. Yes, it's only a vacation, but we don't get there very often and it takes time and money (lots of money) to go to Disney.:mad:

[isnkr]

Mr Eisner,
People save an entire lifetime to visit WDW one time.......:mad:

[DisneyFanGuy]

We're down there in four weeks. Only a couple of days but we really wanted to see TOD. It was a big hit for our family last year when it was TON. Is it really cut to only once per week?

[Dizzy4Dizney]

We are leaving tomorrow (Yeah!) for 10 days. I will have my laptop (self employed, have to check e-mail) and I'll let everyone know if ToD is on during the week.

I hope so. We are Disney Vets, but my niece and her family are newbies and I'd like not
to have to jame ToD, FIS & SpectroMagic all in one night! Jeezze!

[Dr. Cocktail]

Yoho -- do you think Disney did a survey on how many people would not mind if there was no Tapestry of Dreams? what were the results.

[EpcotMom]

They do not do "surveys". The do Guest Service Measurment. If several people make requests, they will make recommendations to change something. Thats all. None was done on entertainment. Its simply cost cutting. Bottom line is all that matters.

[Testtrack321]

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[Josiah Harper]

Just checked the official WDW site--the hours for the week of October 28 through November 3 have been posted. Tapestry of Dreams is ON each evening at its regular times--6:15 and 8:10 (I think those are the times, but you may wish to verify on the site).

The only bummer is that DAK is closing at 4:00 p.m. each day. This *has* to be unprecedented! The parade occurs at 4, then everyone is herded out of the park.

Has there *ever* been a park that was open only seven hours during the day?

At least I'm hearing that with the paucity of crowds, the quality of one's vacation is about the same--if not better--than it would be if park hours were normal.

[mktiggerman]

Originally posted by Dr. Cocktail
Yoho -- do you think Disney did a survey on how many people would not mind if there was no Tapestry of Dreams? what were the results.

if they did that survey, I have a feeling an overwhelming majority would say bring back ToN. Heck, IMHO, I'd rather have LightMagic going down WS than ToD.

[Debi]

I just spoke with a friend who is a performer in ToD, and she said this rumor is completely false - ToD schedules will remain the same. They will be performed twice nightly, weather permitting, seven days a week. Glad to hear that this rumor is false! :)

[Josiah Harper]

So that means WDW's official site is *right* for once! Better make a note--it may not happen again! But seriously, I'm overjoyed to hear ToD isn't the victim of the budget cuts.

Joe

[KMovies]

Disney's Website, if you click on November park hours has updated information for Oct 28 - Nov 2 and does show it performing every night.
It also shows that Animal Kingdom will now close at 4:00, with parade being at 4:00 PM.

[Testtrack321]

WH-HO!

THANK YOU GOD for that just being a rumor!



if they did that survey, I have a feeling an overwhelming majority would say bring back ToN. Heck, IMHO, I'd rather have LightMagic going down WS than ToD.

Have you seen it? All I have seen are some video's at Laughingplace.com. It looks fine, but it is not as good as ToN. There is actulaly singing in English. Plus, the puppets seem only to be around to be used as insturments. And I just don't think the theme of the new parade fits the World Showcase...

[toefungus]

I saw the videos and pictures and I think ToD looks better. The puppets look more ceorgraphed (sp?) and I like the new music additions (except for the kid's wishes in the music) I'm not going to make any judments on if it's good or not until I see it in person this coming June! :D

[mktiggerman]

The puppets seem more choreographed?!?!!? 2 of them, hammer and Disc, have almost no chreographed routine!!! But then again, if the performern knows what they're doing, they can make up their own routine

I personally think that ToD looks cheap... VERY cheap... Wal-Mart cheap. (nothing wrong w/ Wal Mart.. I just don't think that when one pays for Saks, they get WalMart)

[toefungus]

Well I know about the hammer and disk man. They just go around and have fun and interact with the guests. The rest of the puppets just looked like they were acutally dancing, and when I saw ToN last year they were interacting with the crowd most of the time. :rolleyes:

[Testtrack321]

As I said before, they should bring back the Millennium edition of ToN after this "celebration" is over. I would fly down imediatly to welcome back The Sage of Time and would tape it. If you miss the old ToN, go to disneydreams.net and they have the WHOLE parade on video. It is about 12 MB big, so it is a big download for us 56K users.

I think this new one is total different than the other one. I just have to see it with my own eyes.

[mktiggerman]

Originally posted by Testtrack321
As I said before, they should bring back the Millennium edition of ToN after this "celebration" is over. I would fly down imediatly to welcome back The Sage of Time and would tape it. If you miss the old ToN, go to disneydreams.net and they have the WHOLE parade on video. It is about 12 MB big, so it is a big download for us 56K users.

I think this new one is total different than the other one. I just have to see it with my own eyes.

that would be great... if disney hadn't DESTROYED the sage costumes, and cut the staffs in half and given them to the MGM parade.

[disneygeek]

Is the sage of time no more?

[mktiggerman]

Originally posted by disneygeek
Is the sage of time no more?

he is GONE..............

[Debi]

The Sage has been replaced with three new "Dreamcatchers" named Cosmo, Leonardo and Elfin. *Sigh*

[Testtrack321]

I don't think The Sage of Time outfit was destroyed. It is probably in the back of the wardrobe department and Esiner has it ready to go to auction on eBay. But it wouldn't cost that much to make 4 new ones. It would probably less than one million dollars. But again, Disney is cutting back drasticly. And also, wouldn't it make sence to put one characte at the helm instad of 3 (infront and back)? *sigh*

[TDC Nala]

word is that the posted closing time of 4 PM for AK was an error and it will close at 5 as usual.

[TinkerbellRules]

I have to differ with all the doubters of the new ToD. We loved it! My 9 yr DD said it was almost better, maybe even better, than ToN (which we've seen 5 times). I think the best part for her was being able to give her "dream wish" to the dream catchers and him saying "dream on, dream on". That really left an impression on her. She still tells people about that. She got her photo taken with one of the "dream" girls and one of the "puppets" during the parade. We were at the beginning/end of the parade. The first one didn't go off due to extremely windy conditions. The CM's in the parade seem to be having a great time and had lots of energy. Matter of fact, someone from the show who wasn't working that night, stood next to us. She was having a blast. We were all singing to the parade.

We were there Oct 17, I think.

[mktiggerman]

my opinion of ToD has turned aroun 180 degrees.. now I love it.

[greenhornet]

I was at disney Nov 12-16 TOD was held twice a day every day i was there.