This forum is awesome but

[yaksack]

I think they should all be in English so everyone could benefit.

Here is what I am referring to: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1121899

[satman1962]

I donno, 954,000 plus threads in english against 1 in spanish. Seems okay to me. Many other threads to "benefit" from.

[maddhatir]

I have been on the boards for quite some time and i have NEVER seen a post in spanish- that is a first--- but really- who cares? :confused3

[x morgan]

Not everyone speaks english, you know. Why discriminate?

[CleveRocks]

So yaksack, are you saying that if I don't read/write English well, but want to get good info about enjoying WDW, I'm outta luck??? My dinero is just as verde at WDW no matter what language I speak. Lighten up! :sad2:

[ukwildcat]

My dinero is just as verde at WDW no matter what language I speak. Lighten up! :sad2:

Hilarious :rotfl2:

When I saw that thread I thought it was cool. Boggles my mind that someone would complain over one post. And who cares what language people speak. After all, WDW is the vacation spot for the world.

[krdisneybound]

Neither have I ever come across a Spanish thread - considering the number of DIS'ers, that is pretty good.

THE MAJORITY 99.9 PC of the people are great. Just think of our friends in Japan (Tokyo) and other countries, they type in their language and gets it translated in English.

You can't say they aren't trying

If you see another thread in Spanish and can't read it, hit the back button and find one that interests you.

THE DIS ROCKS :disrocks: :disrocks:

[yaksack]

what it says.

Is that asking too much?

[eblack0409]

I actually thought the Spanish thread was cool!!!! There are free translators at http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/text.html to help in case you don't speak Spanish...

Disney welcomes everyone, no matter what language you speak....whether you speak, English, Spanish, French, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Latin, German, or Arabic you are welcome at Disney and you are welcome here! :welcome: :disrocks:

[jbdreamer]

I think they should all be in English so everyone could benefit.
But not everyone speaks English. How would this rule benefit everyone? :confused3

Honestly that is the first time I have seen another language on the boards.

[1000th happy haunt]

Go to Google Language Tools (http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en).

Scroll down to "translate a web page" and put the full URL into the box. The full url is:
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1121899

Using the drop down menu, choose Spanish to English.

It's not perfect, but you'll get an idea of what's being discussed.

But like the others, I don't think it's a big deal that one thread is in Spanish.

[Sonno]

what it says.

Is that asking too much?

http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/text.html

[missmun52]

:confused3 If all the threads were only allowed to be in English then those who spoke any other language would not be able to benifit. This is the first that i am seeing this and it did not bother me at all.

In my opinion it is great!!!

I am sure what ever they are discussing you can find in another thread some where else as most peoples questions have been asked and answered 100 times over and the newest most important infromation is always discussed in several threads at one time.

I think you will survive if you cant understand this one. :rotfl2:

[cynderella]

I actually thought the Spanish thread was cool!!!! There are free translators at http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/text.html to help in case you don't speak Spanish...

Disney welcomes everyone, no matter what language you speak....whether you speak, English, Spanish, French, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Latin, German, or Arabic you are welcome at Disney and you are welcome here! :welcome: :disrocks:
Hear, hear! I was also smiling about the Hispanos en Disney thread. My Spanish (despite a recent class!) is pretty terrible, so I can't really understand as much of it as I'd like, but I get enough to know they're talking about what has essentially been said a million times before in English on other threads. If enough Spanish speakers wanted to post here, I'm guessing they'd eventually devote a whole section to it, like they do for other separate forums - but as PP's said, it's just one thread that I am sure is making the OP and others very happy. Why worry about whether you can read/understand it or not? The CM forum is unreadable to anyone who isn't a CM :ssst: and I don't see anyone losing sleep over that. C'est la vie!

[DisneyDotty]

OP--welcome to the DIS! You will find many wonderful threads that pertain to you--that are just what you needed to know or wanted to discuss--and many that don't. That's the beauty of DIS--something for everyone!
Enjoy! :sunny:
And to the others--thanks for posting the translating site! Excellent! :thumbsup2 My Spanish is pathetic--maybe this will help! Muchos gracias!
Adios! :banana:

[littleEinsteins4]

:confused3 If all the threads were only allowed to be in English then those who spoke any other language would not be able to benifit. This is the first that i am seeing this and it did not bother me at all.

In my opinion it is great!!!

I am sure what ever they are discussing you can find in another thread some where else as most peoples questions have been asked and answered 100 times over and the newest most important infromation is always discussed in several threads at one time.

I think you will survive if you cant understand this one. :rotfl2:

LOL!!!!!!! :rotfl2:

I speak spanish and have posted on that particular thread "in spanish" and they are talking about things that have been discussed a billion times on other threads.

gees louise!!!

[MouseEarsJenny]

I think they should all be in English so everyone could benefit.

Here is what I am referring to: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1121899

Er... How could EVERYONE benefit, when everyone doesn't speak English?

Actually, I found it entertaining to try and use my rusty high school Spanish to decipher the thread. And if I were dying of curiosity and spoke no Spanish, I'd follow the advice of others and seek an online translator.

Relax and think Disney thoughts! :thumbsup2

[littleEinsteins4]

Hear, hear! I was also smiling about the Hispanos en Disney thread. My Spanish (despite a recent class!) is pretty terrible, so I can't really understand as much of it as I'd like, but I get enough to know they're talking about what has essentially been said a million times before in English on other threads. If enough Spanish speakers wanted to post here, I'm guessing they'd eventually devote a whole section to it, like they do for other separate forums - but as PP's said, it's just one thread that I am sure is making the OP and others very happy. Why worry about whether you can read/understand it or not? The CM forum is unreadable to anyone who isn't a CM :ssst: and I don't see anyone losing sleep over that. C'est la vie!


HEEEEEYYYY Cynderella-
I am so glad to see you chime in!! I need your help from a previous post! "the green post" They want to know what the mickey paint samples from HD look like you posted on the "green thread" and I tried to copy and paste to show them but I cant could you pm and tell me where you got the pic.

ana

[mommiepoppins]

everyone get off op back!!! no big deal :stir:

[Kick Save]

May as well get used to the Spanish, yaksack...you're going to hear plenty of it once you GET to WDW, anyway... :lmao:

[krdisneybound]

May as well get used to the Spanish, yaksack...you're going to hear plenty of it once you GET to WDW, anyway... :lmao:

AMEN :thumbsup2

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

i post on the Spanish thread, and it's not a big deal. Please don't complain about making this board about all English! If you want to know what it says go ahead and post there, there are so many people that don't speak Spanish that have come over and tried or just asked!! It was mainly started by someone that is embaressed about how his WRITTEN english comes across so he began asking questions in Spanish and it took off from there. The bilinguals on this thread are just happy to help. Once again just ask don't talk about how it should all be in English.

Have a great day everyone!! ADIOS!

[Mcbruns]

Who is everyone ? Don't want to start any rumbles, but not everyone speaks just English or just Spanish. Looks at the folks who responded to it in Spanish. I'm sure they appreciated having someone post in Spanish.

[byoung]

I have been on the boards for quite some time and i have NEVER seen a post in spanish- that is a first--- but really- who cares? :confused3
I agree.

[emma'smom]

Maybe the OP could learn a bit of spanish if s/he was so curious or concerned that s/he might miss something...

[sticker231]

The maps at the parks are also available in other languages. We like to grab a
map in another language and slip it to an unsuspecting family member or friend, it is a good laugh to wait and see how long it takes for them to notice. :guilty:


Sometimes it is the simple things that give a good laugh.

[torinsmom]

I can't imagine having to translate posts in my mind and then trying to formulate replies that made sense in English--that is basically what someone whose first language is not English does each and every post here. I think its cool that they were able to express their views much more fluidly in that post, and obviously, others were in the same boat and replied there. Like someone said, you can always translate. Its not like they were trying to bash us without us knowing.

Marsha

[yaksack]

Er... How could EVERYONE benefit, when everyone doesn't speak English?

Actually, I found it entertaining to try and use my rusty high school Spanish to decipher the thread. And if I were dying of curiosity and spoke no Spanish, I'd follow the advice of others and seek an online translator.

Relax and think Disney thoughts! :thumbsup2


Because the site is in English.

[littleEinsteins4]

Because the site is in English.


Not everything is so black and white yes, the site is in english but there are many different kinds of people on this site. If we want to get really irrational does that mean that this site is only reserved for people who speak English? I take just a little offense to the fact that you have not taken into thought all of the people who's english is choppy or non existant and make an effort in order to be a part of this site. They simply posted one thread and like it was said by other posters their questions are the questions of millions of other threads, just that they are in a language which they are more comfortable communicating in. ;)

ana

[yaksack]

Not everything is so black and white yes, the site is in english but there are many different kinds of people on this site. If we want to get really irrational does that mean that this site is only reserved for people who speak English? I take just a little offense to the fact that you have not taken into thought all of the people who's english is choppy or non existant and make an effort in order to be a part of this site. They simply posted one thread and like it was said by other posters their questions are the questions of millions of other threads, just that they are in a language which they are more comfortable communicating in. ;)

ana


If their English is choppy let them use the translator that was recommended to me. How else will they learn English?

[Scrap_Vamp]

Just wanted to say, I'm an English girl who speaks English (obviously!) but also Spanish and French. I think it's great people are posting in other languages so I just went over there to say hi - even though my written Spanish isn't that great!

So - despite you not being happy with it, I say thanks for bringing it to my attention so I can practise my other languages and speak to lots more interesting people who I might not have met otherwise :D

[Evil Queen]

I thought the thread title was pretty neat myself, what an awesome way to learn about the Dis and Disney. I never even bothered to open it though, for I can not read or speak any other languages.

[missmun52]

If their English is choppy let them use the translator that was recommended to me. How else will they learn English?

You have got to be kidding about this entire thread. You just dont like people speaking spanish and you should have never posted this at all. We are on the world wide net and people on here are from all over the world and everyone that goes to disney are not from the good ole US of A. The Dis is a great place to get information and I think the trhread is great and the fact that many have posted on it (with the exception of poor old you!) means that people speak spanish also.

If you want to know what they are saying LEARN THE LANGUAGE!!!!!!
Everyone does not speak english and everyone does not NEED to either. I believe if you live in a country you should make an effort to learn the language but some of these people are from totally different countries!

People on these boards sometimes chop you up when you say one thing wrong and i can see where someone who does not write well in english would be a little apprehensive about posting. I have seen times where people were written about in a negitive light just because they spelled some words incorrectly.

Please if you dont like the thread dont read it and dont try to use the lame excuse of you feeling your missing something!! your not!!

As I stated before what they are discussing is probably things posted on these boards a million and one times!!!

I hope they shut this thread down....and i hope you see that no one feels the way you do, your the minority on this one!

[littleEinsteins4]

If their English is choppy let them use the translator that was recommended to me. How else will they learn English?


I am sure that many do in order to post on the dis. They enjoy this and make an effort its just one thread!!!!!!!!!

Translate this:
Tenemos que vivir en armonia!!! Nos encanta dis tenemos eso en commun.

[DisneyDotty]

Oops-double post. My apologies. :sunny:

[DisneyDotty]

Just wanted to add--my most favorite saying at WDW is this:
(with many apologies to Spanish-speakers out there--I'm spelling it as I hear it)

Por favor montengensee allahadro de las puertas. :lovestruc
www.wdw-photos.com/monorail.wav

:cloud9: When I hear that, I'm at Disney.
I find myself saying it all the time--with no particular reason! :cloud9:

[yaksack]

I hope they shut this thread down....and i hope you see that no one feels the way you do, your the minority on this one!


I am the only one with the courage to say something.

[Scrap_Vamp]

I'm sorry, but I just can't understand why it would bother you so much?!

[cynderella]

I am the only one with the courage to say something.
I'm sorry, but I just can't understand why it would bother you so much?!
It's called racism, and I'm probably going to be the only one with the courage to say THAT.

[Jrockmom]

I can't believe that you would devote so much time to this issue. I think it is great that they are posting in spanish. What has been said some many times here is that Disney is a vacation for everyone. Not just people who speak English. And if you are so interested in what is being said use that Google translator.

[Evil Queen]

I am the only one with the courage to say something.

Courage? I think it's pitiful. Do you vacation in Florida? If so how do you stand it? I honestly think I hear other languages just as much, if not more than English.

And I can just imagine how someone might feel now after reading your comments, about posting trying to plan a trip or ask questions.

[yaksack]

It's called racism, and I'm probably going to be the only one with the courage to say THAT.


Typical response. You have no valid points so pull the race card.

It ends now.

[Kimmielee]

Dare I say... this board is all about diversity and being able to state your opinion.

I think the spanish thread is great.... Vive la differerance! (I'm sure I slaughtered that.... ) :thumbsup2

[cynderella]

Typical response. You have no valid points so pull the race card.

It ends now.
Well, I notice you didn't answer the question about why it bothers you so much, and maybe that's because, however you word it, it's going to sound like you have a problem with people being different.

I also notice that instead of explaining how your attitude is NOT racist, you decided to shut down the conversation (much, I am sure, to everyone else's relief). It is, after all, your complaint and your thread, so you're the one who should be making the valid points here.

[maddhatir]

This just in.....

i translated the spanish post and the poster is giving out information on a code you can use to get a FREE Disney vacation for 2 weeks- everything included @ the Grand Floridian- but if you cant read it-- you cant go! :rotfl2:
sorry! :lmao:

to give him the benefit of the doubt....maybe the origial poster's post just didnt "come out right" and we interpreted it wrong....... :confused3 and now it has been blown out of proportion......

or maybe not :rolleyes:

[DisneyDotty]

Maybe it's just me, but I thought most responses were very civil to the OP.
OP claims to be the only one with "courage" to say something about a post not being written in English--I say OP is the only one who is bothered by the use of a different language. Doesn't really involve courage at all. :confused3
Perhaps OP is unhappy that no one supported his/her views. I know how that goes--I've had several threads where I received little sympathy. Or even response! :teeth:
Ah well, try another topic, OP. We're open to lots of diversity here at the DIS! :sunny: (Or maybe that's what's bothering the OP? ;) )

[mickeymousemom]

OP---you will not change the fact that many people on these boards are from other countries(or trying to make a living in this country). How do you know that the person who started that thread isn't learning English as we speak? Racism is what your post is about, plain and simple. If you don't like it then go elsewhere. I highly doubt you're going to find alot of sympathy here. :sad2:

[CleveRocks]

I am the only one with the courage to say something.
Please don't mistake courage for lack of reasoning skills.

[CleveRocks]

Typical response. You have no valid points so pull the race card. Typical response. You have no valid points.

Signed,

Someone who speaks ONLY English but is tolerant of others who aren't exactly like me.

[CleveRocks]

OK, I think I figured out OP's view of life by looking at these posts as well as posts on other threads.

OP is what those in psychological circles call "egocentric." This is not a disorder. It simply means what it says, seeing one's self as the center, or rather as the "only." No one could possibly have a differing opinion, and if they do there is something wrong with them.

In a previous thread about concierge level of resorts, he responded that the only reason anyone wants to stay on a concierge level is to flaunt to others how wealthy they are. How sad this view is. Are there wealthy people who flaunt their wealth? Of course there are. But how sad that OP sees ONLY that possibility and not any other possibiities. That is egocentricity.

In this thread, he sort of whines that he wants all threads to be in English so he can understand them. How dare he be excluded from something! That's egocentricity.

I was really hoping that OP was a teenager, as almost all of us were hopelessly egocentric at that age (it's "normal" at that stage of development), but alas, he is an adult.

It's not all about you. You're one of about 98,000 people in this community. It's not all about you. And that's okay.

[jedi_librarian]

To the OP, I post on that thread and I can promise you that no one's talking bad about you, if that's you were worried about when you posted this thread. :rolleyes:

So, it's ok to have dedicated threads on the Community boards for just about everything under the sun (most of which probably do not interest you) but a dedicated Spanish language thread bothers you? :confused3

[MyWorld]

You know what angers me?

Why do people walk through Epcot WS speaking English? In America and England it's ok, but when in Rome......

Although I suppose, when at WDW we should all be speaking Seminole -- but I digress... :confused3

[ANTSS2001]

I myself is a melting pot of race..... who was brought up with 5 laguanges- one of them Spanish and about 4 to 5 dialects... every since we migrated I have this soul question when and how did it all start that when you call an operator the second language is Spanish ( which really makes me regret so much on not keeping up with the laguage when we use to use it at home). And now that there are more race blended into all of us... will it be press 2 for Spanish press 3 for ???. Who decides or which House decides this in the government. I am not good in history ... and been checking the net but cannot find the answer am looking for... help... :guilty:

[missmun52]

I am not sure if i know the answer to this but I dont believe it is a written law. Many business orginazations have now realized that spanish is, I believe the second most spoken language in the united states. In order to reach a wider demographic when calling you now have the option of hearing the selections in different languages mainly spanish because as I stated before this is spoken more than the others with the exception of english.

The majority of times you will not hear a selection for any other language besides the english and spanish unless you are calling a select business that targets other demographics or is located in areas that cater to the different race.

[LuluLovesDisney]

I myself is a melting pot of race..... who was brought up with 5 laguanges- one of them Spanish and about 4 to 5 dialects... every since we migrated I have this soul question when and how did it all start that when you call an operator the second language is Spanish ( which really makes me regret so much on not keeping up with the laguage when we use to use it at home). And now that there are more race blended into all of us... will it be press 2 for Spanish press 3 for ???. Who decides or which House decides this in the government. I am not good in history ... and been checking the net but cannot find the answer am looking for... help... :guilty:

We got the first Spanish/English phone books when I was a freshman or sophomore in high school 1994/1995? I don't mind others speaking Spanish (well, except my students, because they probably ARE talking about me.) I just wish I could check off "Spanish" "English" or "both" for certain things (like phone books) for no other reason than it wastes paper.

As far as government, I think it's a really interesting question. I think most government agencies have materials available in a variety of languages but have made Spanish more prominent out of necessity. Rather than have workers waste time by having to locate/distribute things in Spanish, they just had the signs out to be more efficient. I guess the phone messages followed suit, as a way to save the customer service agents' time. (This is all theory)

I don't know about the "3" business, but I think it *is* unfair for the person who speaks Japanese or Russian if there aren't *any* services available to them, when so many are available to Spanish speakers. I know at WDW, you can be put through a translation service, who will connect you (and a guest) to someone who can translate *any* language (so they say. I would probably allow additional time for Swahili or Cyrillic.)

On the other hand, I wish I were fluent in another language. Most European citizens are bilingual/trilingual. My boyfriend speaks Polish, a favorite teacher of mine spoke fluent English, French, Spanish, Russian, and some Polish and Latin.

[ANTSS2001]

We got the first Spanish/English phone books when I was a freshman or sophomore in high school 1994/1995? I don't mind others speaking Spanish (well, except my students, because they probably ARE talking about me.) I just wish I could check off "Spanish" "English" or "both" for certain things (like phone books) for no other reason than it wastes paper.

As far as government, I think it's a really interesting question. I think most government agencies have materials available in a variety of languages but have made Spanish more prominent out of necessity. Rather than have workers waste time by having to locate/distribute things in Spanish, they just had the signs out to be more efficient. I guess the phone messages followed suit, as a way to save the customer service agents' time. (This is all theory)

I don't know about the "3" business, but I think it *is* unfair for the person who speaks Japanese or Russian if there aren't *any* services available to them, when so many are available to Spanish speakers. I know at WDW, you can be put through a translation service, who will connect you (and a guest) to someone who can translate *any* language (so they say. I would probably allow additional time for Swahili or Cyrillic.)

On the other hand, I wish I were fluent in another language. Most European citizens are bilingual/trilingual. My boyfriend speaks Polish, a favorite teacher of mine spoke fluent English, French, Spanish, Russian, and some Polish and Latin.

great explanation.. thanks

[novajeanjellybean]

I thought it was pretty cool. I don't write spanish very well, but understand and speak it pretty good. I'm not totally fluent but I work at a Mexican restaurant where a good portion of the employees don't speak english.

[Scrap_Vamp]

It's called racism, and I'm probably going to be the only one with the courage to say THAT.

Sorry - I was asking why the OP was so bothered - I'm not racist - I speak Spanish and posted on the thread, if you see my earlier post!!!!

Edited to add: OK, sorry, just saw your next post and I realise you weren't talking to me as well - just the way you quoted me and the OP confused me!

Anyway, my fiance lived in Spain for six years and I love that he is fluent in Spanish while I speak a decent amount of that and French - it does seem to be the norm to speak more than one language in European countries, as another poster said - at school I learnt German, French and Spanish, and I also had the option of learning Italian - wish I'd taken that one up :)

[WI_DisneyFan]

I just took advantage of the translator twice. First to translate that thread, which is actually pretty humorous to do. The translator doesn't handle misspelled words very well, so one post was talking about anuses and such. (Which coincidentally also describes the OP of this thread! :rotfl: )

Then I left a message, translated to Spanish by an online translator, basically telling the OP of that thread that it is great that he/she started it in Spanish, and to ignore the OP of this thread bashing the Spanish post.

[Anewman]

Typical response. You have no valid points so pull the race card.

It ends now.

THE IRONY.
Coming from someone that posted no valid points, other than the race card.


Everyone that feels like you is free to post in ENGLISH ONLY and skip non English threads.

NOW IT ENDS.

[katytrott]

OK, I think I figured out OP's view of life by looking at these posts as well as posts on other threads.

OP is what those in psychological circles call "egocentric." This is not a disorder. It simply means what it says, seeing one's self as the center, or rather as the "only." No one could possibly have a differing opinion, and if they do there is something wrong with them.

In a previous thread about concierge level of resorts, he responded that the only reason anyone wants to stay on a concierge level is to flaunt to others how wealthy they are. How sad this view is. Are there wealthy people who flaunt their wealth? Of course there are. But how sad that OP sees ONLY that possibility and not any other possibiities. That is egocentricity.

In this thread, he sort of whines that he wants all threads to be in English so he can understand them. How dare he be excluded from something! That's egocentricity.

I was really hoping that OP was a teenager, as almost all of us were hopelessly egocentric at that age (it's "normal" at that stage of development), but alas, he is an adult.

It's not all about you. You're one of about 98,000 people in this community. It's not all about you. And that's okay.

I have a thought as well. Do you think that maybe the OP is trying to wind us all up? Can someone really think like that? I have oftened wondered that there are people here who like going around the threads and causing a stir. So what do you say Yaksak, am I on the right lines??

[cyjmhill]

I have been on the boards for quite some time and i have NEVER seen a post in spanish- that is a first--- but really- who cares? :confused3

I thought that the internet was international and that the DisBoards were also international ( I see that we have people from other countries all the time), so I agree with the above....who cares?

[jlatina32]

I thought that the internet was international and that the DisBoards were also international ( I see that we have people from other countries all the time), so I agree with the above....who cares?


:thumbsup2 :goodvibes I agree with the post above. I see people from Australia, Britain, and other places that come here for the same reasons that everyone else does........to share the experiences and opinions of WDW trips. Unfortunately, some people are not as fluent in English as the OP would had liked to have been fluent in Spanish. I am Puerto Rican and I assure you "yacksak".....alot of what was posted is what many have already posted in english about how they look forward to their trip and how much fun they are going to have. :yay: So, on that note: HASTA LA PROXIMA, MI GENTE DE DISBOARDS!!! :wave2:

[Linxzy]

Everybody needs help, especially when related to WDW. If it was another post in another language (german, italian), someone would have posted too.

There are no good WDW spanish related forums, so why not try here.


I think we are here to help others with what we love, WDW & US. We shouldn't get offended if it is in another language. :confused3

[Disneyrsh]

I just entered a contest to go to Disney on the Univision website (thanks, Mousesavers!) It was all in Spanish.

I didn't feel like they were trying to exclude me-I have a rudimentary grasp of Spanish thanks to a few years in Miami, so had no problem with it.

The media's getting everyone stirred up about illegal immigration so I think people are getting riled about everything Espanol, right now.

I'm really, really appreciative when I travel outside the country and there are secondary signs in english all over the place. Really puts it in perspective when I see bilingual signs here (and Atlanta has lots and lots of them). Makes me feel like we're 'international' here.

Joel McHale on "The Soup" now has me addicted to "La Madrastra"! :happytv:

[TA4U]

personally, i think it would be nice to have a forum for some of the major languages that might visit here. spanish, french, german etc - might be a bit much to get into every single language out there, but the admin could see demographics of where people live and the ones that had more members could have a thread where they could talk about disney in their native tongue.

don't see why it bothers anyone to have a thread in spanish. not eveyrone talks/writes english.