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Marty Moose
04-18-2006, 09:50 AM
Hi All!

I was just wondering if anyone had used this? And if so, is it worth it?

Thanks!

kizmac
04-18-2006, 11:16 AM
Hi All!

I was just wondering if anyone had used this? And if so, is it worth it?

Thanks!

Yep, lots of people have used TGM. I think it's worth it, but some people think his site is hard to navigate. I didn't find it so. I used him last year and signed up again this year because it was such a great help in planning our last trip. Mike has fantastic tips and up to date info. :thumbsup2 I do believe he offers a money back guarantee too if you are not satisfied.

Tosie
04-18-2006, 11:20 AM
Love it - am using it for the 2nd and 3rd times this year. We used it last October and never waited on line more than 5 minutes.

YOU have to do all the work though - Mike just provides the tools to plan your own personalized vacation. It is hard to navigate at first, but once you get the hang of it, it's a breeze!

The community is great too!

PJMeadows
04-18-2006, 11:28 AM
I must respectfully disagree with the previous post. I didn't care for it. There is a LOT of information but it was hard to find. I would read an article and then couldn't find it when I went back to it.

I'm a computer trainer by day and I think the user interface needs to be much more simplified.

I was also expecting something more customized. I guess I was looking for, run to Dumbo first, then go do... It wasn't like that. Just lots of general articles.

But if you try it, TGM is as good as his word with that guarantee. I sent an email and my money was refunded a few days later.

If you are looking for something customized I LOVED Touringplans (dot) com for it's "Enhanced Touring Plans". Once you subscribe, you choose a touring Plan - they have different titles like, "Small Children Two Day Touring Plan" - Pop in the date you are going and you will have a step by step way to avoid the crowds. We used it on our last trip and it was perfect!

Good luck and enjoy your trip.

MacMaximus
04-18-2006, 11:47 AM
We used it for the first time in Feb/March. I'm pretty frugal and skeptical by nature but his "Best Days" advice was worth the subscription price alone!

For the trip we're planning during Free Dining I went ahead and booked the room. TGM's "Best Days" for October weren't up yet. So on my own, using WDW's calendar, knowing which parks had EMH on which days and all the other events that increase crowds, I planned out our schedule but waited until the "Best Days" for Oct were published before making ADR's. When I saw the Oct "Best Days" I compared it to what I had planned. Turns out TGM taught me pretty well because my plans jived fairly well with what his thoughts were. Once I had Mike's confirmation on which parks for which days I went ahead and made the ADR's accordingly.

I did find his site a little hard to navigate until I got used to it. There's a huge amount of information on there. I'm sure there are still plenty of articles that I never made it around to reading. I'll do it again in prep for our Sept/Oct trip.

Again, his "Best Days" advice is dead on!

lindakmonty
04-18-2006, 12:00 PM
First, yes I believe it is well worth the $! The site took some playing around to get comfortable with. But you can always use the "search" and never had a problem doing that :) It DOES list... start here...go here...go here... and also lists...grab fastpass for later for this..and if you have extra time, or just filler ...do this... I've been to Disney a few times, but I think it is well worth the cost. I did buy it for our trip, and considering what people are spending for their vacation overall, I think it is WELL worth the cost. Lots of information. :hourglass :banana:

Julia M
04-18-2006, 12:07 PM
I agree with those who say it's hard to navigate. I also didn't care for the cheesy style of his writing. While I was planning my trip, I spent alot of time there, and when I would talk about my plans a little, my dh and kids would scoff. I wasn't sure what to expect.

THEN, I had my trip, Christmas 2005. His advice is right on. We seldom waited in lines, even the day after Xmas.

One thing to consider: his style is not park commando style. If that's your style, it won't work for you. We have always been commando in the past, and discovered we really liked his style. Our vacation was fantastic, and the lines we waited in were never more than 15 minutes (and frequently shorter). At MGM we rode Rockin Roller Coaster (our family favorite) 6 or 8 times!

My husband became a true believer and my oldest ds (13) started reading ahead on then plans, and calling himself "Tour Guide Michael".

I would never consider a trip to Disneyworld without subscribing again.

Julia

fakereadhed
04-18-2006, 12:39 PM
TourGuideMike is terrible! ;) Don't do it- I'm afraid to recommend him because I want to keep his advice all to myself. :worship:

p2oh
04-18-2006, 01:02 PM
I agree with fakereadhed, it's horrible (tongue in cheek) No really although it is a ton of information I wouldn't hesitate to do it again for our next trip.

mlwear
04-18-2006, 01:05 PM
I agree with the negative posts. I signed up a couple weeks ago. Hard to navigate. I guess I agree with another poster who thought it would be something more customized, too.
I went through here and I think it was $18.95. A complete waste of money for me.
TGM seems to be a love it or hate it kind of thing. :wave2:

OhMari
04-18-2006, 01:31 PM
I thought I knew a lot of WDW, but I signed up yesterday and I was exhausted from all of the reading I did. He tells you to please read his intro before you start clicking all over the place and he even warns you to stop reading if you clicked away and come back to his intro so you learn how to do things properly. I had to laugh-I felt like I got caught and went ahead when I wasn't suppose to yet. I used to do that all the time in school and then I would be that kid that would walk up to the teacher and ask for directions again.

speedyf
04-18-2006, 01:58 PM
I agree with the negative posts. I signed up a couple weeks ago. Hard to navigate. I guess I agree with another poster who thought it would be something more customized, too.
I went through here and I think it was $18.95. A complete waste of money for me.
TGM seems to be a love it or hate it kind of thing. :wave2:

Did you at least get your money back? He does offer the money back guarantee...so, you shouldn't worry about wasting money. If you don't like it, you will get your money back.

I agree with the positive posters. We visited WDW in 2004 for the 1st time in about 10 years. I had purchased the Unofficial Guide for that trip. I didn't use any of the touring plans...and boy was that a long trip. Long lines, cranky child, etc. We didn't get as much done as I thought we could have.

Last year, we returned again in June. I used the TGM BEST DAYS to plan out our trip and it was great. No long lines, and everything went smoothly.

We are going back again this June and I subscribed again. I re-read the Unofficial Guide and found the touring plans to be a little too "commando" for me.....but, it does have excellent information that can be used to put together your own touring plan.

My advice would be to definitely try TGM or get The Unofficial Guide and take their advice on which parks to go to on which days as well as which rides to hit early in the day to avoid lines. Many people have talked about being able to get the Unofficial Guide from their local library. That may be an option to help you save money as well.

Speed :teleport:

Cyndy
04-18-2006, 02:09 PM
Well, I must agree that it is a LOT of reading, and not the user friendliest site, but as a 20+ WDW visitor, DVC owner and full time event planner, I learned a few new tricks. However, the best thing I got from this service was a reminder that allowed me to snag CRT at 8:10 am in June for my 1st choice day. It seems when I did the 180+10 calculation, I was off by a day or two and if I hadn't gotten the reminder from Mike, we probably wouldn't have gotten a ressie at all, but in this case I was able to get a seating for 11 people. :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: What a life saver. now my DGD (3 yr old twins and 5 yr. old) will get to share the magic of it all with the whole family.

Samar
04-18-2006, 02:40 PM
The "inside" info of TGM is good, site is hard to navigate but I do find a lot of the same info here on the Dis as well. It's definitely good though to see which parks have a GREEN, YELLOW or RED lable attached to them so you can see which ones you want to go to on the days you are away.

mlwear
04-18-2006, 03:26 PM
Did you at least get your money back? He does offer the money back guarantee...so, you shouldn't worry about wasting money. If you don't like it, you will get your money back.

I agree with the positive posters. We visited WDW in 2004 for the 1st time in about 10 years. I had purchased the Unofficial Guide for that trip. I didn't use any of the touring plans...and boy was that a long trip. Long lines, cranky child, etc. We didn't get as much done as I thought we could have.

Last year, we returned again in June. I used the TGM BEST DAYS to plan out our trip and it was great. No long lines, and everything went smoothly.

We are going back again this June and I subscribed again. I re-read the Unofficial Guide and found the touring plans to be a little too "commando" for me.....but, it does have excellent information that can be used to put together your own touring plan.

My advice would be to definitely try TGM or get The Unofficial Guide and take their advice on which parks to go to on which days as well as which rides to hit early in the day to avoid lines. Many people have talked about being able to get the Unofficial Guide from their local library. That may be an option to help you save money as well.

Speed :teleport:

After reading that someone in this thread got a refund, I went to the site and sent an email asking if I could and how to go about it. We'll see...
I do have the Unofficial Guide and find it to be very helpful.

donnajon
04-18-2006, 11:09 PM
We went last year - the second week in June - the same time as some friends. I tried to tell them about TGM but she insisted that she had been to Disney before and knew everything. When we got back, I heard that they had a terrible time. the lines were horrible and they would never go back in June again. I thought that was funny because we were there for 10 days and only waited in one line for 20 minutes - and that was when I knew I was breaking the rules and the wait would be 20 minutes but it was what the kids wanted to do.
I always kind of chuckle to myself when people scoff that it is a lot of information to read. So they want to pay $20 and not get much info? Mike not only tells you the hows, he tells you the whys. That is what is so great about his site. It is a lot to read thru but well worth it. Do read the intro!
I now go with general ideas in my head but no specific agenda. I know the whys so I can ad lib what it is we feel like doing.

crisi
04-19-2006, 07:03 AM
Mixed feelings -


The site isn't well organized.
The site could do a lot more with customization
There is nothing on Mike's site you won't get here, or the UOG website of busiest days
However, the information is in one place
The touring plans print nicely
Its $18 or something, not a lot in the scale of a Disney vacation, but perhaps a lot in your budget.
I didn't learn anything I hadn't figured out myself. Some of the things I "learned" I had figured out myself but wouldn't apply.
If this is your first or second Disney trip, it may be more worthwhile than if its your tenth.
If you get $20 out of pleasure out of planning using it, its worth it regardless.

Personally, I'd rather have a Passporter and some common sense.

becky7953
04-19-2006, 07:18 AM
I loved TGM. It was great for someone with young children. It tells you when exactly the scary parts are for the ride or shows. (things that we wouldn't think scary, but alot of young children gets scared...... loud noises, things jumping out, etc) And the info on when what day to visit each park

DisFlan
04-19-2006, 09:01 AM
TGM is great for lots of people - IF you like to get to the parks early, grab fast passes and get lots of rides in. Which is what a lot of folks want to do. We don't. We don't use touring plans. We're much more leisurely about when we get to a park and what we ride, so TGM was pretty much a wash for us. We don't uber-micro-plan every hour of our trips.

I also wasn't wild about the site and the amount of time it takes to find, print and collate everything you might need. It was quicker for me to make my own spread sheet with everything I needed on one page.

But as I said, TGM works well for many people, especially those who are relatively new to WDW. He has lots of info about how to pace yourself, what to see and when, where to stand for parades etc. I didn't find any of his info to be a "secret", but it's good info if you don't already know any of it.


DisFlan

Mamiamjo
04-19-2006, 09:20 AM
In planning for our up-coming trip...

I bought the UG
I subscribed to touringplans.com
I subscribed to Ride Max
I subscribed to TGM
AND
I bought the Passporter (primarily for the maps)


What I found was that like a bunch of others, I found TGM's website hard to navigate. When I brought up the issue on the TGM boards everyone came to TGM's rescue (as if I was attacking him personally). TGM himself even posted and told me how wonderfully "user friendly" and simply laid out his site is. That there just wasn't any better way to organize his site (I could think of a few things).

Well, I'm glad "he" knows how to navigate his site. The problem is the site is for "others" to use (you know, the people that pay for the subscription). If it's not user friendly, people will miss out on all that the website has to offer.

WITH THAT BEING SAID:

1) I have found some very good information on his site. Most of which I've seen other places like here on the DIS (or the other above referenced books/sites). The difference with seeing these on TGM's site is the emphasisi he places on some of the things and the background info as to why he suggests certain things.

2) I like the fact that TGM (who's in the business of providing VIP tours at WDW, and is in the parks every day) will provide updates as he sees changes in the parks. His site is not a static listing of information that was written last year sometime.

Would I recommend TGM? YES (surprised?)

Even with the current site layout you can find some great information. I think I learned enough from the site (even if some of it was stuff I already knew, but didn't know all the reasons "why" it was like that) to justify the subscription price.

If the site isn't to your liking you can always get a refund. (Just don't tell TGM that his site isn't user friendly :teeth: )

Mike

doombuggy3
04-19-2006, 09:29 AM
Hmm...I'm very skeptical of trying TGM since I've been to Disney a bizillion times and if it weren't going to be my DBF's first time in Disney, I probably wouldn't put so much effort into planning since normally when I go I'm laid back and just hit the rides that have a short wait. I know some say just try it because of the money back guarantee, but I'd rather get some opinions first on how the service is during a rather busy time.

BUT, I want him to have a great experience (because lord knows if he doesn't like the place we're soon going to find ourselves enemies! :lmao: ) and I want to show him a lot of things and we're only going to be in Disney 5 days and at the parks for 4. I'm going the dates in May which the UG has listed as 8's...Is TGM good at planning even the busiest of days? OR should I stick with the unofficial guide?

Any advice wouuld be great! :thumbsup2

DisFlan
04-19-2006, 10:48 AM
What I found was that like a bunch of others, I found TGM's website hard to navigate. When I brought up the issue on the TGM boards everyone came to TGM's rescue (as if I was attacking him personally).

That was the problem I had with TGM's community, too. I didn't say anything on the TGM boards about the time-consuming complexity of site navigation and a couple of other things because I knew what would happen. That's not good for ANY commercial site.

So I left Mike's site and his board fans with their happy navigating and went on my way. We got any info we needed elsewhere.

DisFlan

Marty Moose
04-19-2006, 11:30 AM
Thanks so much for all of your responses and input!!

I went ahead and subscribed (that's why it's taken me so long to post...I've been reading since yesterday pm!!! :rotfl: )

I totally agree about the site navigation...but I think a lot of that is that there is just sooooooo much info! It's insane!

So far it looks good. I've never been to WDW (grew up in CA, so I've been to DL tons, though!) so I don't know if this will help as far as wait times, etc. (I hope so) but it definitely is helping me to get my own itinerary organized and in place!

Thanks again guys!!
:bride:

Mamiamjo
04-19-2006, 11:36 AM
Hmm...I'm very skeptical of trying TGM since I've been to Disney a bizillion times ...I'd rather get some opinions first on how the service is during a rather busy time.

Is TGM good at planning even the busiest of days? OR should I stick with the unofficial guide?

Any advice wouuld be great! :thumbsup2

From what I've heard from people that went during Spring Break and Easter, TGM (type) touring worked great.

What dates are you going? (We're going May 27- June 3 so will get to put TGM to the test. I realize that will be too late to give you any feedback for your trip)

kinntj
04-19-2006, 12:09 PM
We're planning on going Next april/May (still have to decide). I was interested in TGM, but when is the best time to subscribe? I wasn't going to book until DD gets her school schedule this fall.

Does it cost $18 a month or for a quarter? Sorry, I don't want to go to the site until I know it's a set price or an ongoing amount.

Thanks,

BethR
04-19-2006, 12:21 PM
I was interested in TGM, but when is the best time to subscribe?

You want to subscribe as soon as you are planning a trip! The price is a one time fee PER trip. It is good from the day that you sign up (even years in advance) to 60 days AFTER your trip. It is easy to change the date of your trip on the site, so don't worry that you are "locked into" any particular dates. So my best advise is to sign up for TGM as soon as you are THINKING of a trip to Disney and you can finalize your trip dates later.

Cathy baby RN
04-19-2006, 01:13 PM
[QUOTE=
I went through here and I think it was $18.95. :[/QUOTE]



Does TGM still offer a discount if you go through DIS?
I tried to find the coupon link and couldn't. It's $21.95 to sign up on his website. Thanks for any infor :goodvibes

kinntj
04-19-2006, 01:20 PM
Thanks Beth, I'll sign up now! I'll put in the latest date we would be going and then move it up when we book.

Congrats to your DD on her school. Wow! That is awesome PA at Duke. It doesn't get much better than that.

BethR
04-19-2006, 01:22 PM
Does TGM still offer a discount if you go through DIS?


Yep! Just click on the banner ad at the top of the The Parks Attractions and Strategies Board HERE (http://www.disboards.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=30&f=2) .

simonmunro
04-19-2006, 04:59 PM
Used it for two vacations and love, love, loved it.

MossMan
04-19-2006, 05:12 PM
I just don't get these discussions on Tour Guide Mike. My family used TGM and we loved it. But I have no idea whether anyone else will like it. I don't know what anyone else is looking for in a service like this, so I can't really comment on whether TGM will meet your needs or not.

I get that some people don't like TGM. But you can say the same thing about any product. It's doesn't matter how popular something is, somebody somewhere is not going to like it. And sometimes that person is you. Oh well.

But what does it matter? TGM offers a no questions asked money back guarantee. So no one has anything to lose. Try it yourself. If you don't like it, get your money back. There is no risk. The only think you have to lose is the time and effort it will take you to evaluate whether you like TGM or not.



You are protected from wasting money, so why take a look for yourself.

kinntj
04-19-2006, 06:27 PM
I've signed up today and so far I like it. I've only touched the surface if that. It's great information!

MickeyDee
04-19-2006, 07:21 PM
I was also expecting something more customized. I guess I was looking for, run to Dumbo first, then go do... It wasn't like that. Just lots of general articles.


I totally agree...and also expected to be more personalized. I just signed up a couple of weeks ago for my trip in July and have found some interesting/useful information, but it wasn't all I dreamed it would be. I doubt I'll use it again.

crisi
04-19-2006, 08:57 PM
I just don't get these discussions on Tour Guide Mike. My family used TGM and we loved it. But I have no idea whether anyone else will like it. I don't know what anyone else is looking for in a service like this, so I can't really comment on whether TGM will meet your needs or not.

I get that some people don't like TGM. But you can say the same thing about any product. It's doesn't matter how popular something is, somebody somewhere is not going to like it. And sometimes that person is you. Oh well.

But what does it matter? TGM offers a no questions asked money back guarantee. So no one has anything to lose. Try it yourself. If you don't like it, get your money back. There is no risk. The only think you have to lose is the time and effort it will take you to evaluate whether you like TGM or not.



You are protected from wasting money, so why take a look for yourself.

Well, for me at least, I got enough out of it that I didn't feel like a full refund was appropriate. It was $5-10 worth of information to me, not $20. And since I did use his site, I can't justify a refund. So I do think there is some risk you will waste some money. More importantly however, is that you WILL spend time in order to figure out if its for you. There are so many sources of Disney information, that if your time is valuable, TGM may not be worthwhile, even if you get all your money back.

rie'smom
04-20-2006, 07:19 AM
[QUOTE=PJMeadows]I must respectfully disagree with the previous post. I didn't care for it. There is a LOT of information but it was hard to find. I would read an article and then couldn't find it when I went back to it.

I'm a computer trainer by day and I think the user interface needs to be much more simplified.

I was also expecting something more customized. I guess I was looking for, run to Dumbo first, then go do... It wasn't like that. Just lots of general articles.

But if you try it, TGM is as good as his word with that guarantee. I sent an email and my money was refunded a few days later.

If you are looking for something customized I LOVED Touringplans (dot) com for it's "Enhanced Touring Plans". Once you subscribe, you choose a touring Plan - they have different titles like, "Small Children Two Day Touring Plan" - Pop in the date you are going and you will have a step by step way to avoid the crowds. We used it on our last trip and it was perfect!

Good luck and enjoy your trip.[/QUOTE



:sad2: :sad2: :sad2:

TGM absolutely tells you how to tour the parks. He will say in which order the rides,attractions,etc,should be done. The advice will depend on what month you are going to WDW. Mike also has sample tours based on the ages of those in your group,ex. with young kids. We followed his sample tour plans last year during Memorial Day weekend through June 6 and our longest wait
was 5-10 minutes! We're going back @ the same time this year and have resubscribed. I love that MIke is @ the parks almost daily and can give up to the minute advice!

GrandmaBarb
04-20-2006, 08:49 AM
The "secret" to TGM is to follow his plan, step by step, don't just skip around and get yourself lost in all the information.
He teaches you how to do WDW, when to do what etc.
you forumlate your own touring plan according to your wants and needs.
It works. :love:

DisFlan
04-20-2006, 09:40 AM
The "secret" to TGM is to follow his plan, step by step, don't just skip around and get yourself lost in all the information.
He teaches you how to do WDW, when to do what etc.
you forumlate your own touring plan according to your wants and needs.
It works. :love:

I think the problem some of us have with the site is that it shouldn't need a "secret". Stuff is just too hard to find in a user-friendly timeframe.

And for $20, I expected some sort of basic personalized printout for the whole trip (ressies, ADRs, park hours, daily activities, tee times, etc.) with all our info in one handy place - not just "sample" daily touring plans. It took me hours of weaving around the site to realize that wasn't gonna happen. If it was there, I never found it.

DisFlan

MossMan
04-20-2006, 12:29 PM
Well, for me at least, I got enough out of it that I didn't feel like a full refund was appropriate. It was $5-10 worth of information to me, not $20. And since I did use his site, I can't justify a refund. So I do think there is some risk you will waste some money. More importantly however, is that you WILL spend time in order to figure out if its for you. There are so many sources of Disney information, that if your time is valuable, TGM may not be worthwhile, even if you get all your money back.

First off, you should have gotten your money back. Unless you are FULLY satisfied, you can ask for ALL your money back. That you didn't ask for a refund is not a reflection on TGM.

And yes, you will spend some time looking over the site while you evaluate TGM. But so what. Are you really suggesting that that people not give TGM a try because they might waste a few hours coming to the realization that Mike's service isn't for them. Remember, you are presenting this as an arguement to a group of people who spend their free time reading message boards on a Disney fan site.

If your read this site you will quickly come to the realization that most peole who like the DIS also like TGM. However it is also just as apparent that a very vocal minority has some serious problems with TGM. But as long as TGM offers a full refund, why argue the point. Those who haven't tried TGM can spend a few hours reading through these same arguements or they can spend a few hour actully trying out TGM and coming to thier own conclusion. Given that TGM offers a money back guarantee, neither option will neccessarily cost you any money. It seems to me that the try-it-yourself option is going to yeild a far better result.

crisi
04-20-2006, 12:50 PM
First off, you should have gotten your money back. Unless you are FULLY satisfied, you can ask for ALL your money back. That you didn't ask for a refund is not a reflection on TGM.

And yes, you will spend some time looking over the site while you evaluate TGM. But so what. Are you really suggesting that that people not give TGM a try because they might waste a few hours coming to the realization that Mike's service isn't for them. Remember, you are presenting this as an arguement to a group of people who spend their free time reading message boards on a Disney fan site.

If your read this site you will quickly come to the realization that most peole who like the DIS also like TGM. However it is also just as apparent that a very vocal minority has some serious problems with TGM. But as long as TGM offers a full refund, why argue the point. Those who haven't tried TGM can spend a few hours reading through these same arguements or they can spend a few hour actully trying out TGM and coming to thier own conclusion. Given that TGM offers a money back guarantee, neither option will neccessarily cost you any money. It seems to me that the try-it-yourself option is going to yeild a far better result.


People who like the DIS also overwhelmingly like the UOG, but I do not. I enjoy the DIS, but found TGM to be uneven. You can't say "all people here like this, so you will to" because the first statement is a fallacy. I may however, resubscribe for our next trip - it was uneven, but there was SOME value there.

My values are different than yours, I got enough value out of it not to feel it was ethical to ask for a refund. That isn't a problem with TGM and I'm not saying it is. But there are other people like me, either their ethics are different, or they are too lazy to ask for a refund.

And I'm not saying people shouldn't try it, I'm saying that there are pros and cons to TGM and you should consider them before you invest the time or the money. The investment in time on TGM alone may be enough to discourage people. If I ONLY had $20 to spend on a guide (and a lot of budget boarders don't have a lot to spend on guides), I'd recommend the Passporter before I recommend TGM. And I usually recommend that people spend time at the bookstore or library before they commit money to anything, because I seem to have different taste in guidebooks, and I can't generalize my taste to yours. You can't browse TGM for free, and even if TGM refunds your money, if you are paying 21% interest on the credit card you charge it on, it isn't free.

DisFlan
04-20-2006, 12:56 PM
First off, you should have gotten your money back. Unless you are FULLY satisfied, you can ask for ALL your money back. That you didn't ask for a refund is not a reflection on TGM.

I chalked it up to a bad decision on my part. It simply turned out to be not what I expected. That's not TGM's fault.

I have nothing against anyone trying out TGM. I hope they do! It's very helpful for lots of folks. A question was asked and I'm responding with my experience. I honestly DO think the TGM site could use a few improvements. I would like to like it more! But when I mention this, the only response I get is - "If you don't like it, get your money back."

DisFlan

Mamiamjo
04-20-2006, 05:13 PM
[/QUOTE]
TGM absolutely tells you how to tour the parks. He will say in which order the rides,attractions,etc,should be done. The advice will depend on what month you are going to WDW. Mike also has sample tours based on the ages of those in your group,ex. with young kids. We followed his sample tour plans last year during Memorial Day weekend through June 6 and our longest wait
was 5-10 minutes! We're going back @ the same time this year and have resubscribed. I love that MIke is @ the parks almost daily and can give up to the minute advice![/QUOTE]

Julie,
We'll be there during the same time as you (May 27- June3). I'd be really interested in seeing your itinerary and any preliminary touring plans for this coming trip. Especially if it results in maximum waits of 10 minutes. I know you can't share your TGM touring plans here on teh DIS but you can post them on the TGM site or PM me on that site (if you don't mind) my user name is the same on TGM as here (mamiamjo)

Thanks,
Mike

mlwear
04-20-2006, 06:03 PM
Did you at least get your money back? He does offer the money back guarantee...so, you shouldn't worry about wasting money. If you don't like it, you will get your money back.

I agree with the positive posters...

Speed :teleport:

I sent an email and nicely explained that the site wasn't what I expected, yadda, yadda, yadda...I asked if I would be eligible for a refund. The next day I received a kind reply :

I am sorry you were disappointed with your purchase, and I am happy to refund your money as promised in our satisfaction guarantee. Your credit card has been refunded in full, and your email address has been removed from our records. You should see the credit in 2 to 3 business days.

I wish you a wonderful, memorable, magical vacation to Walt Disney World!

So, I would say if you are on the fence, go ahead and try it. Getting a refund when I realized it isn't a tool I will use, was very easy.

eeyore45
04-20-2006, 06:24 PM
It is different. and I dont think I can use TGM well enough, maybe its the way its laid out, maybe its that I cant spend enough "quality" time on the site. I've just joined, so I know I have a ways to go to figure out if it will help me.

I also use touringplans.com and really liked that - I like that I get email responses from Len, I also found it a great companion to the Unoffical Guide tho, so with that in mind, I think that is what is confusing me...

If TGM had a companion book for me to refer too, unfortunately that would defeat the 'current' info that I believe is what is the major selling point to TGM. I was also surprised that TGM doesnt respond to posts, but then again, that's "My" impression, and "my" MIS impression - he is in the parks *duh me!!

I also feel I "miss" some things, that I need to spend time there instead of here!! :)

GrandmaBarb
04-21-2006, 06:33 AM
If you find TGM site overwhelming. It just contains so much info that if you don't take it "step by step" like it tells you at the start and just skip around you certainly can get lost. The total answer is: take it step by step, then check out all the links.
The site is being upgraded and a newly simplified format will be introduced when ready.
The most wonderful thing about the site is that the information is being updated constantly and does not become outdated.
Anyone having navigation problems or questions. Please post them on the TGM forums and you will receive quick knowledgeable responses and answers.
Don't expect to sign up and have a plan immediately printed out for you.
Can't work that way as each individual situation requires different plans.
But after multiple trips using TGM I know it works. :love:

crisi
04-21-2006, 07:06 AM
It is different. and I dont think I can use TGM well enough, maybe its the way its laid out, maybe its that I cant spend enough "quality" time on the site. I've just joined, so I know I have a ways to go to figure out if it will help me.

I also use touringplans.com and really liked that - I like that I get email responses from Len, I also found it a great companion to the Unoffical Guide tho, so with that in mind, I think that is what is confusing me...

If TGM had a companion book for me to refer too, unfortunately that would defeat the 'current' info that I believe is what is the major selling point to TGM. I was also surprised that TGM doesnt respond to posts, but then again, that's "My" impression, and "my" MIS impression - he is in the parks *duh me!!

I also feel I "miss" some things, that I need to spend time there instead of here!! :)

That was another problem with TGM. Certainly his information was more current than the print books, but he was consistantly later with information than the free info on allearsnet, or the info on wdwinfo, or the info here, or the WDW website or..... By about three days. Not a huge deal, but it was a little annoying that they guy I was paying was providing less timely information than I could get for free.

cxcelica
04-21-2006, 07:33 AM
I just flipped over to TGM to see what all the hub was about.
I have never used his site, but it does sound intriguing. The one thing I wish he would do is give a little taste of what you are getting......For example "hit peter pan between the hours of 11:00 and 12:00 because that is when most parents change their babies"(obviously, thats not true but I would like a little taste of something before I buy)

The whole thing with the money back guarantee is great, and people should not be lazy and should get their money back....but most companies know that people won't ask for their money back. Its the reason why you see all those rebates at major stores where you can get a $25 item for free if you send in the rebate. The majority of people forget to send in the rebate or after 8 weeks forget they were supposed to receive it and never call.

There may be people who were not totally satisfied, but how many people will come back from Disney so angered that they did not have a great trip and demand their money back???