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djm99
04-16-2006, 09:05 AM
Since its been much talk of staying in timeshare this upcoming summer, I thought I'd re-do this list I created for friends a while back. I believe I posted it here too. Feel free to add/alter this list.

I have traveled to many destinations by way of Timeshare -Branson, MO, Florida, Cancun, and Hawaii - just to name a few. But it’s Florida that has some really hard salespeople. They are trained to "seek blood". I have put together 12 sure ways of getting in and out of a timeshare presentation within the 90 - 120 minutes asked.

1. NEVER EAT THEIR BREAKFAST/LUNCH/DINNER!!!! Almost always they offer SOME KIND of meal. Your presentation time does not begin until AFTER you finish your meal/coffee, etc.

2. If you already know what resort your touring, do some research on it!!!! Find out how much "resale" prices are off of different websites. And most importantly BRING IT WITH YOU!!! Nothing gets under their skin more than an "educated" buyer. Some will say not to buy from other resellers because you loose the resort "star" treatment!!! I simple say, "I wouldn't want to buy from a company who does not treat all owners with the FULL respect they deserve"!!!!! Just because some are smart enough not to end up paying 17% in interest -they should be punished!!!

3. DON'T BE AFRAID OF BEING RUDE!!!!! Some people are afraid to be rude to people who have no problems being RUDE to them!!! I have gone so far as to bring materials to read!!! A friend of mine laid her head down and went to sleep (AFTER A FEW HOURS OF BEGGING from the Salesman)!!!!!! Our first presentation lasted well over 4 hours!!! TRUST ME BE RUDE – after their 90-120 minutes are up!!!!!

4. If you know for sure that you’re not interested in buying (absolutely sure) and you didn't eat their food - make it CLEAR from the beginning that you have to pick up your family or friend at the airport within 2 hours!!!!

5. If you have been thru a presentation before tell them you have!!! That way you don't have to go thru that speech of how good of an investment the timeshare is, and how much money you'll be saving. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!!!

6. If you have ANY complaints about the property (particularly if you are staying on that site). Bring a list of every reason why you would not buy from that property.)

7. Show your disinterest in your face. These people are trained to "pick up" on those interested. Let me give you an example. My first tour was at an Orlando property (VERY HARD SELL - if you can survive a WG presentation you can survive any of them), anyway, A friend of mine (who had their presentation before ours) bought a Timeshare there (a 2-bedroom) for around $13,000. The next day, when we had our presentation, the same 2 bedroom lock out was offered to us at $7500. Because we really were not interested, the price kept getting lower. During August 03 we were offered a 2 bedroom at Westgate Palace for $5000 (we were almost tempted!!!) If you look on ebay right now I'm sure someone is selling a 2 bedroom (at Westgate Lakes) for every bit of $3000-$5,000. You do the math!!!!

8. If you are doing a timeshare at a world wide chain like Marriott, Fairfield or Starwood, they are usually low pressured but still do your research!!!! These are the most expensive.

9. Let them know that you are maxxed out financially (including credit cards) and have NO means for a down payment!!! NO ONE will let you leave without some kind of down payment. Say my favorite line, “I will buy if I don’t have to put down any money – no, I will not leave a post dated check either”!!! Works every time!

10. If they get you to buy and you immediately realize (after leaving the parking lot) that you don't want it or can't afford it. Immediately send your letter to the resort within I believe 3-4 days (it could be more or less) to cancel because after that grace period - ITS GOING ON YOUR CREDIT REPORT!!!!

11. If you don't own a home yet you have to perfect excuse, Why would I buy vacation property before a home? Say, “I must prioritize and right now, it’s not even an option!!!”

12. If you have children, BRING them!!!! Children especially impatient ones (that includes about 99.9% of them)!!!! Let them cry, encourage temper tantrums, and most importantly let the toddler future track star (you know the one that keeps running away from you) Let them do their thing!!!!

Sounds like a lot, I know but still it can be worth it, if the stay is nice (or you are getting a great "gift"). I have a friend and her husband who get a kick out of getting something for "nothing" (if time is nothing). While in Orlando last year they bragged about their $200 cash in 3 hours ($66.66 an hour doesn't sound so bad now does it!!) Their presentations NEVER went over 90 minutes. They did Tip #4 and said they had to pick up her mother at the Airport. Each time leaving with $100 bills. Another friend of mine did a presentation recently for (4) 4 day Disney hoppers for $135 a piece (exit 101 in Georgia - right outside of Florida)!!!! Hope this helps! Their presentaton was at Orange Lake and they said the presentation was not a hard sell! They actually enjoyed themselves.

sweet maxine
04-16-2006, 09:27 AM
This is the most hilarious post!!! :rotfl2:

I'm printing off all of it! My DH and I have decided there are actually some resorts we'd like to look at, and this would be a good way of deciding if we'd ever like to book a stay there. I reminded him yesterday that his time is actually "worth" something, and that's the way you have to look at it. I'm going to do just as you've said and do the research. We may just try a few of these tours!

Thanks for the great list!

Foladar
04-16-2006, 10:20 AM
We toured one of the timeshares in Orlando, as we had no idea what we were getting into ... but we ate breakfast with the presenter (he explained while we ate) and we were out in 80 minutes. Some of them seem easy, so definitely do research!

Serene
04-16-2006, 11:32 AM
Thank you so much! I can't tell you how much I needed that post! Not to mention that it gave me a great laugh for starting my day. Great information!

HappyLawyer
04-16-2006, 01:50 PM
they say no pressure, and if you know your not going to buy, plus you already own and just go for the money or perks, knwing your not going to buy, does anyone think that is just morally wrong, i think it is sort of but i am going to do it anyway :rotfl2:

Minniespal
04-16-2006, 02:08 PM
Thanx for sharing :thumbsup2

keishashadow
04-16-2006, 02:54 PM
I accepted a Sheraton offer recently. Told them we own DVC & have absolutely no intention of attending presentation, let along buying into theirs.

The reps insist that we don't have to sit thru any presentation but, will be asked to attend. I do wonder as to how we actually receive our $100 reimbursement. Told we'll receive it the next day...should be interesting to see "how" we need to pick it up. Certainly don't plan on foregoing any park time.

I'm a realtor & can't believe how pushy some reps seem. Up to this point we've always declined any pitch.

they say no pressure, and if you know your not going to buy, plus you already own and just go for the money or perks, knwing your not going to buy, does anyone think that is just morally wrong, i think it is sort of but i am going to do it anyway :rotfl2:

spiceycat
04-16-2006, 06:50 PM
one more thing to add - make the reservation on your last day....if you have to go make it around 2 to 3 hours before you must leave to go to the airport....

if you don't have to go and you are trying to stop the phone calls make it for around 1pm on the afternoon you are leaving. then leave at your normal time....10 or 11 am when ever check out time is...

disneyfan67
04-17-2006, 02:31 AM
I'm not trying to be rude or start a flamming session here but I have question.

How is this what the OP described, considered a vaction? :confused3 That sounds like the most unpleasant thing to do or sit through and would ruin my valuable vaction time. I know some people will go through a lot to save a few dollars but some of what the OP wrote in their post sounds unpleasant and a hard sell by a pushy sales person is a tough thing to deal with. Not my cup of tea but I guess for some, the great deal or free gift you get makes it worth while. :confused3

edcopp
04-17-2006, 07:23 AM
I'll have to add to the dissenting voices here...

If you have absolutely no interest, why are you wasting your vacation time sitting through a presentation?!? $66/hr is a lot of money if that's what you get paid at work, but replace one of your favorite vacation memories with a presentation and $100 and I'm sure you wouldn't be too happy. Some people seem like they take glee in wasting the sales reps time, but in fact, you people are wasting your vacation time. This is a job to the people who work there, they have to be there wether or not you show up, so why ruin everybody's day if you already know what it's about? Some kind of silly game, I guess.

Kinda' like riding around all weekend with a realtor when you have absolutely no interest in buying a home...

KelnRon
04-17-2006, 07:26 AM
I would like to add my tip ~ while on a timeshare presentation in Las Vegas we made it clear that we already "owned" in Orlando. It was the quickest timeshare presentation ever! Maybe one hour! They knew darn well we wouldn't buy a week in Vegas because we belong to RCI and we could always exchange or buy an extra week for minimal dollars and not the thousands they were trying to sell! :sunny:

Corryn
04-17-2006, 08:09 AM
We have done two timeshare presentations in the past. At the time, our kids were small but well-behaved, so we didn't have the tantrum factor. What I did do was tell the salesman as soon as we sat down that I have no intention to purchase a timeshare. I made it clear again & again and again. I would say, oh, this is beautiful! What spacious bathrooms, etc. but when we sat down in the end I made it clear that I was a rock and wasn't going to buy.
The Orange Lake salesman went from $18,000 all the way down to $4000!!!!!!! That really is a sin, isn't it?
I always check Ebay to see what is offered, and the timeshares at the good resorts always sell for about $5000. If you can get one on ebay (Floating weeks, even!) who the heck would buy for top dollar?

We have another presentation we're going to have to attend this October.

I will tell you why I am "wasting" my valuable vacation time and it's not the $100 bill. Every so often I receive offers in the mail to visit resorts for super-low prices. Usually when we go down we utilze a friend/family member's RCI or ICE Gallery membership and reserve a timeshare for a week, which is nice and very inexpensive, about $500 or $600 for the week. I will not go down to Florida and have all 4 of us "live" in a tiny room for a week. When we go down, me and my husband get a beautiful bedroom with a jacuzzi in a huge bathroom and my kids get their own bedroom and their own bathroom. The biggest draw for me is the Washer and Dryer. I wash our clothes every night upon our return to the timeshare. This way when I come home from vacation I don't have to delve into laundry. I can simply pack our clean clothes away.

This latest invitation I've received is for 4 nights 5 days at the Marriott Grande Vista for a price of $199. Now that is a hellofalot cheaper than staying at most Disney hotels for one night! And we get all the aforementioned amenities I listed above. I think we also get tickets to one of the theme parks, I forgot. The reservationist mentioned something about it, but it's not listed here.
I will not travel any other way. If I have to give up two hours of my time I feel it is definitely worth it. I am a Disney Girl and I have enjoyed staying on-site in the past, but I would most definitely rather use my hard-earned cash on actually living during the vacation and not on a studio with my family crammed in.
Different strokes for different folks!

DonnaL
04-17-2006, 09:38 AM
Corryn,

Check the small print on your Grande Vista invitation. I received one a few months back and in very tiny print it stated something to the effect that accomodations were not at the Grande Vista, but, at another Marriott resort
(not a timeshare facility). When I first looked at the invite I considered it until I really read the entire thing because I've heard the Grande Vista is extremely nice.

MaMa3Princess
04-17-2006, 11:15 AM
Someone asked WHy do you sit thru timeshares,

Well up untill recently we were a one income family who wanted to vacation but quite frankly could not afford to do Disney at 4,000 a trip. So we did them for tickets to the parks. Yes it is vacation time and I am like Dmjj we make our appointment time at 7:00 am decline breakfast, look disinterested and we shake our heads no. Eventhough we own our own home, have savings, contribute to 401K we still cannot afford vacations on the luxury end. My hubby works hard and rather than forgo a vacation we do what we need to do. We are the people who pack our lunch and own water when at the park, we eat at buffets and we pick our resorts on who gives free breakfast. For us doing presentations to get tickets were cost effective. We do just what DMJJ does and the only people who WASTED our time because we usually can get out within an hour was Fairfield Inn at Bonnett Creek. They did the chair tipping and tag teaming with managers and it totally wasted 2 hrs of our time but Westgate, sheraton, Hilton, and someothers are piece of cakes. DH and I have it down to a science.

This year DH got a great bonus so we were able to rent a pool home at a negotiated and fabulous price. We are only doing 3 theme parks and we purchase the tickets instead of an eloborate christmas this year. So this year because of different budget we are able to forgo timeshare and grinding to provide our kids with a vacation.

I do not fault anyone else and I often refer my friends who have never been to Orlando because they feel it is too expensive, on to timeshare offers just so they can experience getting away.

CarolA
04-17-2006, 12:07 PM
they say no pressure, and if you know your not going to buy, plus you already own and just go for the money or perks, knwing your not going to buy, does anyone think that is just morally wrong, i think it is sort of but i am going to do it anyway :rotfl2:

Sorry, I see nothing wrong with this. If they want to they can change the rules so that they don't give freebies unless you buy. (And besides if they stuck to their end of the deal and had a decent product at a resonable price then would any of this be required)

Corryn
04-17-2006, 02:52 PM
Corryn,

Check the small print on your Grande Vista invitation. I received one a few months back and in very tiny print it stated something to the effect that accomodations were not at the Grande Vista, but, at another Marriott resort
(not a timeshare facility). When I first looked at the invite I considered it until I really read the entire thing because I've heard the Grande Vista is extremely nice.
Hi Donna,
Thanks for the heads up. As soon as I read your post I ran and checked the paper. It says we'll be staying at the resort. But I know what you mean because I also have received letters like that but I don't give them a second glance, I toss them right away. If it is not at the actual resort, I don't wanna know about it because they are never what I want - they're usually hotel rooms and I need that washer/dryer!
I'm sure your post planted a seed in some people's mind to be on the look-out when taking up these offers :goodvibes
thanks again!