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pjpoohbear
04-02-2006, 11:14 AM
I was wondering if there was a deciated program for managering DVC points for the MAC Os, and how about a planner. I have used both on my PC, but have switched to a Mac Powerbook as my primary and would like to included this to my DVC management options.

Penny

meagan9848
04-02-2006, 11:48 AM
I searched the mac site for a widget...no luck. Be sure to post if you find anything...I too would be interested in this.

cslittle999
04-02-2006, 02:43 PM
I looked for one too but the only thing I found was an Excel spreadsheet. Here's a link, http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeowxzy/dvc_point_calculator/index.html.

magicmama
04-02-2006, 06:21 PM
I am also VERY interested in a program for mac. There is a Disney countdown widget but I'd like something to manage points.

Any DVC mac gurus out there??



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iankh
04-02-2006, 07:59 PM
I am also VERY interested in a program for mac. There is a Disney countdown widget but I'd like something to manage points.

Any DVC mac gurus out there??



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I'm a Mac user and I've thought about trying to build one using Filemaker. I think it would be possible. I'd be interested in talking to other Mac users about what a DVC manager for the Mac should be capable of.

pjpoohbear
04-02-2006, 08:42 PM
I would want points used per reservation, banking, borrowing, auto point refill for each year, in the reservation history a quick way to list short details (place, type of room, dates.) Maybe a banking reminder. A way to track mulitple contracts with different use years. Anyone else?
penny

Ps Iankh, are you crusing on the 12/09 cruise or the 12/03?

magicmama
04-07-2006, 10:44 PM
I agree with pjpoohbear.
Making one with filemaker pro would work but it would be better as a stand alone program. And a widget would be a nice addition. There is a web-based points manager and one by Caskbill, which is only for PCs. Didn't find the link to Caskbill's download page but here is the one for the web-based points manager.

http://www.dvcplanner.net/

iankh
04-08-2006, 08:37 AM
I have Filemaker Pro, but not the developer version. I believe the difference is with the developer version you can create stand alone applications that do not require the user to actually have Filemaker loaded on their system.

Last year I started to map out and flow chart the relationships between the data and various fields, but didn't get too much further.

I'm only sort of quasi technical. The one challenge, I thought would be a way of maintaining the points charts year after year.

I was not so worried about the banking and borrowing. That seemed a bit simplier. The deadlines were a bit perplexing. I think it is doable, it just requires some focused effort.

A widget would be VERY cool, but that requires a real developer, something that is beyond my capabilities. Although there is a new widget out there for WDW trip planning.

(PS - pjpoohbear - we sail on the 10th of December on the 4 night)

magicmama
04-08-2006, 12:43 PM
I would assume that you might have enter points charts for the next year but sometimes just the dates change so that might not be too hard to do. (not as much to enter every year... maybe the user could just change the dates for the 'seasons' and make corrections every year or provide an update????)

If you decide to make one - I'm not a filemaker pro expert but I'll be glad to test it for you. There will be many Dis mac users that would be very grateful.

In any case - Thanks for even thinking about it!

:Pinkbounc :bounce:

iankh
05-21-2006, 05:23 PM
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have not forgotten about a points manager for the Mac. I had just been sidetracked a bit with normal work life and other stuff.

I have started working on it again, and it is coming along nicely. I am not really a technical person, so it probably it taking me a bit longer than it would for someone with a programming background.

First of all, it will not be limited to the Macintosh platform but will also run on Windows. A cross platform trip DVC planning and management center.

The way it seems to be coming along, it will be more of a DVC Trip Planning Center than just a point manager.

I have got it to the point where it does calculate booking and even multiple rooms and room types for a trip. But the way I am going it will also manage trip planning, daily plans, ADRs, and provide Passporter style daily print-outs. Like a I said, trip planning in addition to points management.

So, that is my update for now. Please be patient, as it is a bit complicated.

It is built on Filemaker Pro, so I also have to figure out how I can cheaply upgrade to a Filemaker Pro Advanced license which will allow me to create distributable stand-alone versions, which will essentially be an application.

If you are interested, please PM me and I'll keep a list of folks who would like progress updates.

Thanks.

pjpoohbear
05-21-2006, 08:06 PM
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have not forgotten about a points manager for the Mac. I had just been sidetracked a bit with normal work life and other stuff.

I have started working on it again, and it is coming along nicely. I am not really a technical person, so it probably it taking me a bit longer than it would for someone with a programming background.

First of all, it will not be limited to the Macintosh platform but will also run on Windows. A cross platform trip DVC planning and management center.

The way it seems to be coming along, it will be more of a DVC Trip Planning Center than just a point manager.

I have got it to the point where it does calculate booking and even multiple rooms and room types for a trip. But the way I am going it will also manage trip planning, daily plans, ADRs, and provide Passporter style daily print-outs. Like a I said, trip planning in addition to points management.

So, that is my update for now. Please be patient, as it is a bit complicated.

It is built on Filemaker Pro, so I also have to figure out how I can cheaply upgrade to a Filemaker Pro Advanced license which will allow me to create distributable stand-alone versions, which will essentially be an application.

If you are interested, please PM me and I'll keep a list of folks who would like progress updates.

Thanks.

Wow! Awesome work! I work in a computer shop and was looking at Filemaker Pro the other day and I have to say that I really admire all the work you are putting in for us. THANKS! :love: Would love to get updates on your progress.

Penny

pjpoohbear
05-21-2006, 08:20 PM
If you have connections to a university, then most will have a licence software office, I checked mine and they do not have a licence for Filemaker Pro 8 advance. I did find a full version Filemaker Pro 8 Advance at an university website in the states and the license price was 120.00 USD. Not a bad price at all.

The Upgrade, from filemaker pro 8 to Advance, at retail is around $300 USD. And an educational upgrade license looks to be around $90 USD. The educational upgrade license would have to be carried by the institiution you have a connection to.

Penny

iankh
05-22-2006, 06:17 AM
If you have connections to a university, then most will have a licence software office, I checked mine and they do not have a licence for Filemaker Pro 8 advance. I did find a full version Filemaker Pro 8 Advance at an university website in the states and the license price was 120.00 USD. Not a bad price at all.

The Upgrade, from filemaker pro 8 to Advance, at retail is around $300 USD. And an educational upgrade license looks to be around $90 USD. The educational upgrade license would have to be carried by the institiution you have a connection to.

Penny

Penny, thanks for the suggestion. I do have a connection to a non-profit educational institution, any recommendations where I can order it from? I looked on the Filemaker site and they have an offer to upgrade from Pro to Advanced that runs out on June 30th.

Any advice you can offer would be great.

Also, for everyone else, the biggest nut to crack were the point charts. Date ranges were easy, but even within a date range, there are point differences by day of week (Friday adn Saturday), so therefore let's say 9/1 to 9/30 might be adventure season but each room type points change within the range for a Friday or Saturday. I solved that problem.

I may also need volunteers to proof read the point charts to make sure that I got them right.

Good Ol Gal
05-22-2006, 07:23 AM
I'll volunteer to check it for you. (I don't need Filemaker do I?)

pjpoohbear
05-22-2006, 11:22 AM
I know that with universities you would get it at the central software license office, here on my campus it is at both the main library and at my store, the campus computer shop. With other groups they may have to order the minimum 10 sets to get a good deal. Sorry I can't help more.
Penny

magicmama
05-22-2006, 07:39 PM
I'll be glad to test something. I have access to one mac with an older filemaker pro (4.0) & another that does not have filemaker pro.

iankh
05-22-2006, 08:01 PM
First of all, thanks everyone for the words of encourgagment. Please be patient, it is going to be slow going.

Regarding proofing the point charts, the only thing that would be required is Microsoft Excel. It is what I'm using to create the point tables, it's a good tool for creating the data, and will later be converted and imported into the database.

As I said, I am not technical, so I am sure there are more elegant ways to deal with point charts, but creating logic to analyze a date, determine, if it is Monday through Thursday, or Friday or Saturday and then lookup the right value is beyond my meagre abilities.

The good news is after more than a month, I managed to figure out how to get some sort of day of the year look-up to work and total.

The table are not complicated, just tedious, if you can imagine, that a resort such as OKW (my guinea pig) has 4 room types times 365 days times 2 years, or 2920 point nights (I shudder to think about BWV).

So, proofreading, should anyone volunteer would be to make sure that my dates are correct and the point by room type are correct.

iankh
05-24-2006, 09:22 PM
Another update - I have found a source so I can upgrade from Filemaker 7 Pro to Filemaker 8 Advanced.

This means that I will be able to create distributable runtime versions of the management center, that will not require you to have Filemaker Pro on you machine.

It's sort of like being able to create a stand-alone program.

Also, keep in mind that it should run on both Macintosh and Windows.

Now all I need is time to focus on building it out and making it pretty. I've been pretty focused on just getting the mechanics of reservation and point calculation working, but as I previously reported, I've figured that out.

So, there are two hurdles crossed, point calculation and having a way to distribute the program.

One or two people have PM'd me, but please if you're interested, send me a PM. I'm looking for a group of people to bounce ideas off of as I continue on with this.

magicmama
05-24-2006, 09:35 PM
Thanks for the update. I'm sure your efforts are appreciated by many!

Jhalkias
03-04-2007, 02:54 PM
My friend PJ sent me here . . .

Glad to see that there are some other Mac users out there, and exciting to see that someone is working on a DVC Manager for the Mac!

magicmama
03-04-2007, 03:04 PM
iankh has made a lot of progress in developing something for the mac and he's working on a pc version as well. I hope he has it ready for everyone soon!

iankh
03-04-2007, 03:25 PM
WOW !!!!!!

This thread IS a blast from the past. This is the thread that started me down the whole path that lead to the creation of Mouse Manager!

What a trip down memory lane!

:cool1: :banana: :cool1: :banana: :cool1: :banana: :cool1:

Good Ol Gal
03-04-2007, 09:42 PM
I use my Mouse Manager everyday!! :woohoo:

iankh
03-05-2007, 05:39 AM
I use my Mouse Manager everyday!! :woohoo:

That is so gratifying to hear! The first wave of Windows alpha testers are starting to be rolled. This has been a long time in the making, so starting to see people enjoy it is great!

Lew
03-05-2007, 07:05 AM
If you have Microsoft Excel for Mac or PC, I invite you to download and try my DVC Point Calculator. It works well on both platforms.

pjpoohbear
03-05-2007, 11:51 AM
Lew, that is what I have been using as a back -up, while we alpha test. Great points tracker!

iankh
03-06-2007, 05:36 AM
I'm hoping that the alpha test will run through around mid-April and then we'll go to the beta test which will mean an expanded distribution since we should be almost ready for prime time.

I'd love to go to general release and launch to coincide with the anniversary of this thread. I need to get Mouse Manager out the door, because I really want to get moving on my podcast.

Who would have ever thought that this simple thread would lead to all this?

inky dinky doo
03-07-2007, 05:51 AM
I must have missed this thread the first time around, but as a Mac user, I look forward to the release of Mouse Manager. I just wish I had seen this sooner. I'd be glad to help with the Beta test. I always says, if I can make something work, anyone can.

Pat

233 days and counting . . . again!

U2FanHfx
03-10-2007, 10:36 AM
Hi There,

I have access to 4 Mac's:
- Intel iMac (Core 2 Duo)
- Intel Macbook Pro (Core 2 Duo)
- PPC Mac Mini
- PPC iBook

None of them have Filemaker but I have the full Microsoft Suite and many other programs like Creative Studio.

Let me know if I can be of some help.

Regs,

CJM

iankh
03-10-2007, 12:25 PM
Hi There,

I have access to 4 Mac's:
- Intel iMac (Core 2 Duo)
- Intel Macbook Pro (Core 2 Duo)
- PPC Mac Mini
- PPC iBook

None of them have Filemaker but I have the full Microsoft Suite and many other programs like Creative Studio.

Let me know if I can be of some help.

Regs,

CJM

Mouse Manager is completely sef contained, so Filemaker is not required. The only recommendation is that you're on OS X 1.3 or greater. It will run on OS X before 1.3 but the help dialogues will not work.

iankh
03-10-2007, 06:38 PM
Not that I want to tease anyone, but I have been taking the input from the expanded alpha test and I have some goodies for you guys (both Mac and Windows)

- Flexible print dialogue, yes you will be able to do print preview AND create PDFs.

- I am looking at adding holding point tracking and management

- EXPANDED support of the Disney Collection beyond WDW! Point Calculation for resorts at Disneyland, Disneyland Paris, etc!