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we4blairs
03-28-2006, 03:00 PM
We go on our first cruise next weekend. The forecasts I have found only go up to next Monday.

My big fear is it raining on our CC day and my kids not getting to experience the beach.

How good/bad does the weather have to be for DCL to decide whether or not to dock? For instance, this weekedn they are calling for "scattered clouds", which in my part of the world means probably rain. Does it mean the same in the Bahamas? If it is sprinkling off and on will they still stop? Is rain usual for April there??

I guess we just need some pixie dust to ensure a beautiful day. I'd hate for my boys' first trip to be spent on the boat the entire time and to never get to dunk their toes in sand and sea!

Big15Foot
03-28-2006, 03:17 PM
Wind is the Issue
Speed & Direction

mdoodle
03-28-2006, 03:46 PM
We were at CC last Friday. All week we had the most incredibly beautiful weather and the calmest seas you could possible imagine. Then overnight heading to CC we had scattered showers and the sea was moderate (as per the reports you see on the tv you see in the room).
Next morning, heading into CC it was rather windy and darkish looking clouds.
We docked at CC but the gangways definitely opened a bit later than they should have.
Later in the morning, speaking with a lady working in She Sells Seashells, she said that she was surprised we had even docked. I was shocked. She said that everything was wet when the staff had got off the ship to go man the stations. And if there is any question of safety they do not dock. Or they stay out to sea and dock later, maybe at noon.
It did not rain again during the day but was windy and overcast with lots of threats of more showers that look like they were passing just off shore. Sun did come out later in the day.
It was not the nicest day, but we still had a great day on shore, although the water was quite cool. I was so shocked to hear that we almost had not docked. It did not seem to questionable to me.
We did dock with the aft in and the bow out to see, which is opposite from how it looks in many postcards.
We would have been so disappointed to not dock. I guess the secret is... just don't get your hopes up too high. But then again, it's hard not to.
BTW, if they don't dock they apparently spend the day just motoring around at sea and they have a zillion activities on board that just appear on the schedule.

Tiggerish
03-28-2006, 03:51 PM
We did the Magic the first week of April last year . It RAINED on our Castaway Cay day. But we did dock on Castaway Cay despite the rainy weather. We were allowed to get off the ship and Disney handed out rain ponchos.

It was chilly but I think you could swim when it was just cloudy with light dizzle but when the thunder storms moved in, no more swimming. Back on board for lunch was a very crowded, somewhat chaotic experience - not enough plates, places to sit, etc. but the staff was working very hard and trying to be cheerful and when they ran out of one type of food, tried to quickly get another choice out.

However, every time and I mean EVERY time, any one asks my niece (who was 8 yo at the time) about the cruise, the first thing she tells them is that it rained on her Castaway Cay day and Mickey owes her another cruise 'cause she did not get to swim there.

Also, the crew organized some extra activities on board to try an keep the passengers amused and happy.

tecdavidt
03-28-2006, 05:00 PM
Unfortunately DCL can't control the weather. Any port stop is a hit or miss. We were on the 3/18 Magic cruise last week and we were thinking as we pulled into sight of CC that out of our 8 cruises we just might miss the island stop this time. The captain did a great job getting her docked. As my husband told me, "I wouldn't want to slip (dock) our boat in this mess."(We have a 44' cabin cruiser) It was windy and a lot of rain. We did joke that the captain was going to have to use the far pier area to spin off of for docking. I would not have wanted to be on the dock waiting for the docklines.

The afternoon did turn out OK, sunny but still windy. The water was cold but there were some hearty soles who still got in. The family beach was busy with activities as was the teen beach. Most of the excursions were cancelled and the Bahama shops were not opened so I assumed the workers couldn't come over from the neighboring island. As far as air temps, it was nice, in the mid 70's. A nice relief from the high temps we had the previous few days. Kathy

scottishwee35
03-28-2006, 05:34 PM
Oh no, I hope the weather will be lovely and sunshine for us!! :thumbsup2

Scottishwee35

mitsguy2001
03-28-2006, 06:01 PM
What are the chances of being able to dock and having good weather in May? I hear some people post here that the weather in May is good. But checking the history on weatherundergound.com looks pretty grim. How often is it that they go to CC on the 4th day of a 4 night cruise if the weather is bad on Day 3? I've heard of it happening, but don't know how common it is or if it happens in May.

kellimomo3
03-28-2006, 06:13 PM
We have been on two cruises. On the first one, we missed Castaway Cay. It was too windy for the ship to dock (January '05). We were really dissappointed as it was a beautiful day. This year (February '06) we were able to dock and realized what all the buzz is about. Castaway Cay rocks and if you are on one of the unlucky cruises that can't dock, you ARE missing out! Good luck!!

Kelli
:groom: princess: pirate: pirate: pirate:

mitsguy2001
03-28-2006, 06:46 PM
What are the winds like in May? Also, why did they design the dock so poorly so that it's so difficult to dock there even in perfect weather? It seems that they rarely have any trouble with any other port.

Big15Foot
03-28-2006, 07:57 PM
High Cross Winds while docking a ship is not
perfect weather for the Captain pirate: ;
Docking at CC is more difficult due to the narrow channel / slip
that Disney spent millions to dredge (it's wasn't all sand & mud). :wizard:
All the food & water for CC comes from the Wonder & Magic
so tendering is not an option. :sad2:
Chances are slim that both day 3 & 4 will be bad :thumbsup2 ; from what I have read in the past, Jan & Feb are the worst months. :confused3
My dec cruise's CC docking took over 2.5 hours due to an unusualy strong
north wind; Captain would have tried again at noon. :hourglass
Enjoy your Cruise :banana:
don't worry...be happy ( I hate that song ) :badpc:

mitsguy2001
03-28-2006, 09:33 PM
High Cross Winds while docking a ship is not
perfect weather for the Captain pirate: ;
Docking at CC is more difficult due to the narrow channel / slip
that Disney spent millions to dredge (it's wasn't all sand & mud). :wizard:

So, why didn't Disney do a better job? Why did they spend millions to build a substandard facility? They should have saved money and made it work better like other islands.

All the food & water for CC comes from the Wonder & Magic
so tendering is not an option. :sad2:

Maybe they should have come up with alternate arrangements like the other cruise lines aparently are able to do.

Chances are slim that both day 3 & 4 will be bad :thumbsup2 ; from what I have read in the past, Jan & Feb are the worst months. :confused3
My dec cruise's CC docking took over 2.5 hours due to an unusualy strong
north wind; Captain would have tried again at noon. :hourglass

I checked the wind statistics, and unfortunately, May is almost as bad as January, and is worse than December.

http://www.go-abacos.com/clim/index.html

Enjoy your Cruise :banana:

Thanks.

kty
03-28-2006, 09:42 PM
we were on the 4 night wonder this past jan 29th. :sunny: our castaway cay day was windy but sunny. all excursions were cancelled. :rolleyes2 . We were able to get off the ship and enjoy the island - then it started to rain :crazy2: we made do by visiting the island tiki bar :cool1: and kids ate ice cream and drank smoothies under the umbrellas. While on the ship getting ready for dinner the cruise director announced that the captain decided we would be heading back to cc the next day :banana: so we were luck enough to have two days at the cay instead of one at sea! the next day was beautiful. :thumbsup2

matsterrocks
03-28-2006, 09:49 PM
What size of waves do you need before they cancel? According to your stateroom tv?

wdwturkeyleg
03-28-2006, 11:02 PM
So, why didn't Disney do a better job? Why did they spend millions to build a substandard facility? They should have saved money and made it work better like other islands.



Maybe they should have come up with alternate arrangements like the other cruise lines aparently are able to do.

Thanks.


Maybe they shouldn't have a private island like the other cruise lines. I think it's pretty cool they have their own island.

crisi
03-29-2006, 07:44 AM
It isn't substandard. You have places that are natural ports - like Cape Canaveral - where you can dock in almost any weather. Then you have places where you "make due" Castaway Cay is one where the natural geography of the island means you need to make due. And there aren't exactly a plethorea of small Carribean islands with good natural ports. Small and natural port for a cruise ship don't go together.

Disney isn't going to risk millions of dollars of damage to the ship because the waves or wind push the ship into the dock. Nor will they risk the safety of their passengers. If you really want to sit on an island - don't book a cruise because you aren't guarenteed a chance to do so. Book a trip to St. Thomas.

All cruise lines will skip their private islands if the weather is bad. This is not unique to Disney. A few years ago, one of the lines spent months not going to their island because of regional political turmoil (RCCL? and Haiti?)

Flagger
03-29-2006, 08:57 AM
If the waves are anything like this:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/poseidon/trailer2/large.html

My guess is you will probably not be docking.

:lmao:

mitsguy2001
03-29-2006, 09:07 AM
Maybe they shouldn't have a private island like the other cruise lines. I think it's pretty cool they have their own island.

But the other cruise lines require tendering to the private island. Although that in itself might seem substandard, it at least allows for a contingency plan when the ship is unable to dock. And it means they have other methods of providing food service.

mitsguy2001
03-29-2006, 09:08 AM
It isn't substandard. You have places that are natural ports - like Cape Canaveral - where you can dock in almost any weather. Then you have places where you "make due" Castaway Cay is one where the natural geography of the island means you need to make due. And there aren't exactly a plethorea of small Carribean islands with good natural ports. Small and natural port for a cruise ship don't go together.

Disney isn't going to risk millions of dollars of damage to the ship because the waves or wind push the ship into the dock. Nor will they risk the safety of their passengers. If you really want to sit on an island - don't book a cruise because you aren't guarenteed a chance to do so. Book a trip to St. Thomas.

All cruise lines will skip their private islands if the weather is bad. This is not unique to Disney. A few years ago, one of the lines spent months not going to their island because of regional political turmoil (RCCL? and Haiti?)

But it seems that the other cruise lines allow tendering to the private island, which would have been a good contingency plan for Disney.

mitsguy2001
03-29-2006, 09:09 AM
If the waves are anything like this:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/poseidon/trailer2/large.html

My guess is you will probably not be docking.

:lmao:

That's strange; nothing at all shows up on my computer when I click that link. I'll try it at home tonight when I get home from work.

crisi
03-29-2006, 10:39 AM
But it seems that the other cruise lines allow tendering to the private island, which would have been a good contingency plan for Disney.

They won't tender in bad weather either - tendering can be quite dangerous. There is no way to guarentee a stop on a cruise ship - no cruise ship guarentees any stop. They don't even guarentee the ship will sail!

minniebeth
03-29-2006, 02:40 PM
I think Castaway Cay is perfect the way it is. Not that I wouldn't be disappointed if it didn't dock, but I'll take my chances any day. The pictures of my kids on the beach with the boat in the back are some of the coolest vacation pictures we have of all our travels. What an experience. :thumbsup2

lbgraves
03-29-2006, 05:44 PM
Here is a thread that has stats about the ship's record for docking at CC in 2004 & 2005.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=539967

I agree that CC is perfect the way it is. If the captain cannot dock the ship safely due to the wind or waves, there is NO WAY that I will let my family get on a little old tender boat to get to the island. There could be a situation where the conditions worsened & you couldn't get off the island back to the ship.

lbgraves
03-29-2006, 05:50 PM
If the waves are anything like this:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/poseidon/trailer2/large.html

My guess is you will probably not be docking.

:lmao:

Holy *%&$*(!!!!!!!!! I didn't need to see that movie trailer. :badpc: I will NOT be watching that movie!

mitsguy2001
03-29-2006, 06:28 PM
Holy *%&$*(!!!!!!!!! I didn't need to see that movie trailer. :badpc: I will NOT be watching that movie!

How do you view it? When I clicked on it at work, all I got was a big X. When I click on it at home, all I get is a big Q. What am I doing wrong? Is anyone else having trouble with it?

mitsguy2001
03-29-2006, 06:30 PM
I think Castaway Cay is perfect the way it is. Not that I wouldn't be disappointed if it didn't dock, but I'll take my chances any day. The pictures of my kids on the beach with the boat in the back are some of the coolest vacation pictures we have of all our travels. What an experience. :thumbsup2

It seems it's really a gamble. Hopefully I'll be lucky, even though I usually have the worst luck. Just out of curiosity, how would the experience be not as good if they made it easier to dock?

lbgraves
03-29-2006, 06:31 PM
I just clicked on the link. It is a movie trailer for Poseiden. The ship is hit by a Tsuinami type wave and it tipped over. The cruise ship floats upside down in the ocean...for a while anyway.

mitsguy2001
03-29-2006, 06:32 PM
I just clicked on the link. It is a movie trailer for Poseiden. The ship is hit by a Tsuinami type wave and it tipped over. The cruise ship floats upside down in the ocean...for a while anyway.

Is anyone else having the problem that I am? No matter how many times I try, it won't let me see it.

mitsguy2001
03-29-2006, 06:35 PM
Here is a thread that has stats about the ship's record for docking at CC in 2004 & 2005.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=539967

I agree that CC is perfect the way it is. If the captain cannot dock the ship safely due to the wind or waves, there is NO WAY that I will let my family get on a little old tender boat to get to the island. There could be a situation where the conditions worsened & you couldn't get off the island back to the ship.

How do I view those statistics? I click it, but don't see anything. I see text, but no statistics. Can you help me find it? Thanks.

BuzzNutt
03-29-2006, 07:01 PM
What are the chances of being able to dock and having good weather in May? I hear some people post here that the weather in May is good. But checking the history on weatherundergound.com looks pretty grim. How often is it that they go to CC on the 4th day of a 4 night cruise if the weather is bad on Day 3? I've heard of it happening, but don't know how common it is or if it happens in May.

May in the Carribean is just like Seatle. It will get ugly, get wet, then move on.

mitsguy2001
03-29-2006, 07:04 PM
May in the Carribean is just like Seatle. It will get ugly, get wet, then move on.

That doesn't sound good at all. Is this also true in the Bahamas? I'm starting to wish I never booked this cruise.

lbgraves
03-29-2006, 07:26 PM
How do I view those statistics? I click it, but don't see anything. I see text, but no statistics. Can you help me find it? Thanks.

It is text. The final analysis is in the last post.

minniebeth
03-29-2006, 07:38 PM
It seems it's really a gamble. Hopefully I'll be lucky, even though I usually have the worst luck. Just out of curiosity, how would the experience be not as good if they made it easier to dock?

For them to change how they would dock in CC, I assume would cost big $$$$$....
Not that I don't love DCL, but the prices are high enough as it is, there is no way at least I could absorb the prices they would for sure pass along to us.

To sound corny, and I mean for my words to come across kind, if you can even be able to take a Disney Cruise, you are lucky and blessed.
If you go with realistic expectations, you will not be disappointed with your DCL experience!

If you are planning to cruise anytime soon, I wouldn't even bother watching the trailor for Poseidon (sp?)... even though we rationally know it's fiction, wow! scary.... I don't want my kids seeing even the coming attractions for that!

Have fun planning for your trip, the planning is part of the fun of the anticipation...all your concerns will melt away the minute you board! :sunny:

mitsguy2001
03-29-2006, 07:43 PM
It is text. The final analysis is in the last post.

It appears it was supposed to be a table, but it shows up as gibberish on my computer. Or, if you are talking about the percentages, it doesn't help since it's not for a specific month, and there is great variation from one month to another.

mitsguy2001
03-29-2006, 08:06 PM
For them to change how they would dock in CC, I assume would cost big $$$$$....
Not that I don't love DCL, but the prices are high enough as it is, there is no way at least I could absorb the prices they would for sure pass along to us.

To sound corny, and I mean for my words to come across kind, if you can even be able to take a Disney Cruise, you are lucky and blessed.
If you go with realistic expectations, you will not be disappointed with your DCL experience!

If you are planning to cruise anytime soon, I wouldn't even bother watching the trailor for Poseidon (sp?)... even though we rationally know it's fiction, wow! scary.... I don't want my kids seeing even the coming attractions for that!

Have fun planning for your trip, the planning is part of the fun of the anticipation...all your concerns will melt away the minute you board! :sunny:

Thanks. How were you able to view the trailer? I can't get it to work. Did you do anything special or load any programs to get it to work? Thanks.

kimszath
03-29-2006, 09:10 PM
Hey mitsguy--to get the trailer for the new Poseidon Adventure movie, you'll need Quicktime installed. If you don't have it, I think all you get is the big Q. I'm using AOL as my browser, and when I click on the link, I see the big Q for about a half-second, then it opens up and I get the movie trailer (which is EXCELLENT, by the way! My 6-y.o. even said, "Wow... that's WAY cool!") If you already have Quicktime loaded, it might be a matter of opening with a different browser. Good luck!

mitsguy2001
03-29-2006, 09:53 PM
Hey mitsguy--to get the trailer for the new Poseidon Adventure movie, you'll need Quicktime installed. If you don't have it, I think all you get is the big Q. I'm using AOL as my browser, and when I click on the link, I see the big Q for about a half-second, then it opens up and I get the movie trailer (which is EXCELLENT, by the way! My 6-y.o. even said, "Wow... that's WAY cool!") If you already have Quicktime loaded, it might be a matter of opening with a different browser. Good luck!

It's strange, since I definitely have Qucktime installed, so I don't know what the problem is. Thanks for your response. I'm guessing that I just have some sort of configuration problem. I guess it's not a big deal. Is anyone else having this problem?

mitsguy2001
03-29-2006, 10:03 PM
I should ask: what version of Quicktime do you have? It seems that I have Version 6.5. Is my version too old? Otherwise, I have no idea what is wrong. Otherwise, is there any settings that I need to change? It's strange that I'd be unable to view it on 2 different computers, when it seems that everyone else can view it.

mitsguy2001
03-31-2006, 11:11 PM
It appears it was supposed to be a table, but it shows up as gibberish on my computer. Or, if you are talking about the percentages, it doesn't help since it's not for a specific month, and there is great variation from one month to another.

Am I the only one that is unable to view the table that supposedly has CC docking statistics? Can anyone tell me how to read it? If not, then can someone who is able to read it at least tell me the statistics for April and May? Thanks.

mmouse37
03-31-2006, 11:37 PM
If the waves are anything like this:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/poseidon/trailer2/large.html

My guess is you will probably not be docking.

:lmao:


Loved watching the trailer again....saw it on the big screen the other night when I went to see Inside Man.....I just love all cruise ship movies and loved the original Posieden Adventure and Titanic.....can't wait to see it!!!

mitsguy2001
03-31-2006, 11:39 PM
Loved watching the trailer again....saw it on the big screen the other night when I went to see Inside Man.....I just love all cruise ship movies and loved the original Posieden Adventure and Titanic.....can't wait to see it!!!

What version of Quicktime do you have? What settings do you have it set to? I wonder why I'm the only one that can't view it.

Are you able to view the CC docking statistics table? I can't view that either.

disgal1
04-01-2006, 06:56 AM
I've tried everything , and can't get the trailer to work either.

I even reinstalled quicktime, tried on aol and internet explorer, and nothing.

Don't get it.

mitsguy2001
04-01-2006, 04:33 PM
I've tried everything , and can't get the trailer to work either.

I even reinstalled quicktime, tried on aol and internet explorer, and nothing.

Don't get it.

Sorry to hear that you're also having problems with it. But at least I feel better knowing I'm not the only one and that I'm not crazy. Are you also unable to view the CC docking statistics table? Or am I the only one having a problem with it? If you are able to read it, can you tell me what it says for April and May? Thank you.

A Sunny Day
04-01-2006, 05:01 PM
We cruised the end of Jan and even though all excursions were canceled we were still able to dock at CC. It was a bit windy but I still enjoyed the day. :thumbsup2

Peggy Jean
04-01-2006, 07:18 PM
Our last cruise was in January of 2004, (our next is this July :Pinkbounc ) and we were on a 4 night cruise. We were supposed to go to CC on our 3rd day and we could not dock, I think it was because recent weather caused the docking area to get too shallow and the ship kept hitting it's propellers. So the Captain made his announcement and told us we'd switch our sea day with our CC day and then we went out to sea and he found us some great sunny weather to bask in. We then went to CC the next day with no issues. All our ressies were just switched from one day to the next. They did a great job.

mitsguy2001
04-01-2006, 07:36 PM
We cruised the end of Jan and even though all excursions were canceled we were still able to dock at CC. It was a bit windy but I still enjoyed the day. :thumbsup2

Why were the excursions cancelled? I assume that it was not weather related since your weather sounded good.

mitsguy2001
04-01-2006, 07:40 PM
Our last cruise was in January of 2004, (our next is this July :Pinkbounc ) and we were on a 4 night cruise. We were supposed to go to CC on our 3rd day and we could not dock, I think it was because recent weather caused the docking area to get too shallow and the ship kept hitting it's propellers. So the Captain made his announcement and told us we'd switch our sea day with our CC day and then we went out to sea and he found us some great sunny weather to bask in. We then went to CC the next day with no issues. All our ressies were just switched from one day to the next. They did a great job.

I'm glad to hear that it worked out well. You said they switched the reservations. I have a Palo reservation on Night 4, the day at sea. Does that mean that in that case, my reservation would be transferred to Night 3? Also, does pirate night remain on night 3 even though it is a sea day, or does it transfer to night 4, which becomes the CC day? How does this affect the dining rotations? Thanks.

lbgraves
04-01-2006, 08:29 PM
Why were the excursions cancelled? I assume that it was not weather related since your weather sounded good.

On our last cruise we were able to dock with one attempt but some excursions were cancelled such as the glass bottom boat I believe. Smaller craft cannot operate as well as the ship in some windy conditions.

mitsguy2001
04-01-2006, 09:21 PM
On our last cruise we were able to dock with one attempt but some excursions were cancelled such as the glass bottom boat I believe. Smaller craft cannot operate as well as the ship in some windy conditions.

Does your signature list all of your cruises? If so, then I'm guessing you are referring to the 12/10/05 cruise, with 12/16/05 being the CC day?

mitsguy2001
04-01-2006, 09:27 PM
Does your signature list all of your cruises? If so, then I'm guessing you are referring to the 12/10/05 cruise, with 12/16/05 being the CC day?

By the way, I checked weatherunderground.com, and in Nassau, Dec. 16, 2005 actually had the lightest winds of any day in December 2005. So, have you been on another cruise since then, or is the weather in CC very different than in Nassau, or was there another issue other than wind?

I still want to know how I can read the CC docking statistics table; it still is not readable on my computer.

lbgraves
04-01-2006, 09:49 PM
Does your signature list all of your cruises? If so, then I'm guessing you are referring to the 12/10/05 cruise, with 12/16/05 being the CC day?

Yes, that was the one.

mitsguy2001
04-01-2006, 10:30 PM
Yes, that was the one.

It's strange, because weatherunderground.com shows the weather as being warm, sunny, and hardly any wind on Dec. 16, 2005. I guess the weather in Nassau and CC is very different. Is there another city closer to CC that I can look up to get a better idea about CC weather? Thank you.

disgal1
04-02-2006, 07:53 AM
I too only have the gibbirish, exactly like you posted. on the table post.

Guess we have the same problem, and who knows what that could be.

Very frustrating!

we4blairs
04-02-2006, 11:27 AM
Leaving in a few days... Pixie Dust for our trip in hopes that we DO dock!
pixiedust:

jodifla
04-02-2006, 11:38 AM
I too only have the gibbirish, exactly like you posted. on the table post.

Guess we have the same problem, and who knows what that could be.

Very frustrating!


Yes, me too. Only gibberish, no table.

donald...really
04-02-2006, 09:48 PM
Mitsguy2001, our first cruise was in May, and our day on CC was spectacular. I didn't even realize May weather was iffy in the Bahamas because the weather every day of the cruise was great. Of course, I can't promise that you will have the same luck, but just because you are going in May doesn't mean you will have bad weather.

Our cruise in January was a different story. It was SO windy, the boat couldn't pull out of Port Canaveral because the captain was afraid the wind would slam the boat back into the dock. Eventually we made it out with the help of a tug. The next day in Nassau it was still windy, and we watched from sea as ship after ship tried to dock but couldn't and had to turn back out to sea. Luckily our captain (and the superior DCL ship) was able to dock. So no matter what the dock on CC is like, strong winds are a problem.

We are going on the 11 night cruise this September, and with the huricanes that time of year, we will be lucky to dock at any of the islands we are scheduled to go to. I have lowered my expectations of actually docking on any particular island, bringing a lot of books, and as long as the captain can get us to calm sees and a few rays of sun, I will be happy.