Was told that all rooms at WDW hotels are non-smoking now

[Selket]

I just called reservations because I had forgotten to note I wanted a non-smoking room at POR and she told me that I didn't need to add it because all the rooms are non-smoking. I called back a bit later and asked a different CM about adding the note and she said the same thing. She said that was for all the resorts and not just POR.

Anyone else hear that? I know some buildings at POR were smoking optional but I guess not anymore?

[Miss Inga Depointe]

Does it have anything to do with Florida smoking laws?

[CamColt]

As of March 1, all 3 DisneyLAND resort hotels are nonsmoking. Maybe the CM was confused?

[n2mm]

As of March 1, all 3 DisneyLAND resort hotels are nonsmoking. Maybe the CM was confused?

Just what I was thinking too. But secretly, I hope it's true.

[Selket]

I just assumed the 1st CM was wrong but the 2nd one said the same thing exactly. My son has asthma so I wanted to make sure we got a non-smoking room.

I had not seen any reports here of WDW hotels going smoke-free so this was a surprise to me. :confused3

[camdensmom]

Not true.

We stayed at POR 3/20-3/23 and when I checked in I mentioned the crib. She asked if any party members were smokers and I said no. She said, "well we have you down in a smoking room, but with a baby you'll probably want non-smoking" and switched us.

When we got to our room it was less than perfect...less than acceptable really (still had trash from last guest on floor as well as hair in the shower).

I called the front desk to complain and was told that all they had left was smoking rooms and that they could send someone to reclean. I asked about switching resorts and they called back and said that CB was the only moderate w/ vacancy, but that they too only had smoking rooms available.

[BamaBaloo]

When is your reservation? If your reservation is a few months away, maybe this is something that is in the works, but hasn't been announced yet?

[chr1972]

I have reservations for the end of Sept and have made it for a non-smoking room. Found out when I made dinner reservations that the restaurants are non-smoking, which is great news!

[Lorix2]

I made a reservation for POR for August just yesterday and Lidarae the CM told me it was a nonsmoking room, I did not ask, she told me, which is fine with me.

[pepe of ohio]

now all they have to do is make the parks non smoking too and alot of hassle with designated smoking spots would disappear. Applebees went non smoking and doesn't seem to be hurting their business bar or resturant. I've seem too many people in recent trips to Disney parks smoking everywhere, even in lines. I used to smoke but when I did, I could go a week of non smoking, why can't others. Even in non smoking rooms with someone next to your room puffing away on their balcony, the smoke comes in or you can't just sit on your own balcony. I still enjoy an occasional cigar, I go to the pool bar area, ask the CM if its ok, and sit off by myself and enjoy.

[joliesmom]

In New Jersey starting April 14th all restaurants and bars, except the casino's will be non-smoking. It'll be interesting to see if they make the resort rooms non-smoking.

[Henlady]

On March 21, '06 made a reservation for PO-R for June 4, 2006 and requested a "smoking optional" (DH smokes) room and was told it would be noted on our reservation, so evidently "smoking optional" rooms are still available if requested.

Kris :wave2:

67 days till our "Favorite Restaurant Tour" ~ Cape May Cafe & Boatwrights @ WDW, Florida Seafood Bar & Grill @ Cocoa Beach, Tavern on the Bay @ St. Augustine, Blues Southern BBQ @ I-95 exit 3 Georgia, J Edwards, Seafare & Cagneys @ Myrtle Beach, Tari's Place @ Berkley Springs, WV.

[allaboard]

I just read somewhere (most likely mouseplanet.com) that WDW has changed MOST of their rooms to non-smoking, but will continue to have approx. 5% in the resorts be smoking rooms in particular since foreigners are not as opposed to smoking as many Americans are now. Wish I could remember where I read it. It was pleasing to read that so many will now be non-smoking.

[grimley1968]

I booked a Disney cruise online yesterday, and there wasn't even an option to check whether you wanted a smoking or non-smoking room. We're not smokers, but I was curious so I read some of the fine print. If you have a veranda on your room, you can supposedly smoke out there, but not inside the room. Cigars and pipes seem to be prohibited entirely. We can't afford the veranda rooms, nor do we smoke, so it doesn't affect us.

I know cruise ships and resorts are totally different things, but just thought it was interesting.

[smjj]

It may be a policy change set to take place in Sept or later as a previous poster guessed. I am sure they would give it a few months and would not just spring it on people if this is true(we can only hope)...smjj

[Ava]

I guess I should still call and request a non-smoking room for my trip next month then. Hopefully this is a true policy that is forthcoming though.

Are the restaurants in WDW non-smoking? I live in New York City and all restaurants & bars here have been non-smoking for a few years now. When I go to a restaurant in another state and am asked "Smoking or Non?" I get confused for a second, lol. Just wondering if it's necessary to request the non-smoking section on my ADR's too.

[Selket]

I hadn't even made a ticker for this trip but it is in less than 2 weeks! We're staying at POR over our Spring Break in April. So if they've changed something it must have been done recently and in effect now.

I just wouldn't want to get stuck in a smoking room with DS's asthma. I used to be able to have them guarantee us a non-smoking room but they wouldn't do that today. I really don't mind if they continue to have smoking optional rooms but I do not want to get one.

All of the WDW restaurants I know of are non-smoking. I don't know about DTD but the parks and hotel ones.

[InstImpres]

Part of the confusion may come in that there are certain room categories that are non-smoking only. For instance King bed rooms at CB are non-smoking only.

[Lewisc]

I'm a non-smoker who hopes the resorts don't go to 100% non-smoking.

Maybe I'm being cynical but I think some smokers are going to be smoking in their room no matter what the rules state. I'd much rather they smoke in a designated room rather than having to guess which non-smoking rooms were previously occupied by a smoker.

[diannaneglia]

I think that ALL the places to eat at Disney are non-smoking...I hope so cause I did not request non when I made my ADR's. I know that the hotels have smoking rooms...I think this is so stupid (no offense to the smokers out there cause I used to be one) there is no reason people can't smoke outside...not only that...the smell of smoke on all the comforters and carpets and so on is very hard to get rid of...anyways...yes you should call and request the non-smoking room...I did.

Hope this helps.

[Daydreamer64]

Even if the rooms are going to be all non-smoking I hope that the resorts do a deep cleaning-carpets, curtains, beds and so on... three of us are severly asthmatic and the chemicals that we react to in smoke are absorbed and settle into cloth surfaces of the room so even if no one is currently smoking in the room- we can still end up at the E.R. because of a reaction to the left over chemicals.

It would be nice of WDW resorts to have a special covered/enclosed smoking area for smokers on each floor :listen: so they don't stand outside of their room next to ours and smoke- we have to walk through their smoke :firefight to get by them and it often gets sucked into the air system of the rooms next to theirs- basically negating the non-smoking room requests.

[Wonderlandmom]

Are the restaurants in WDW non-smoking? I live in New York City and all restaurants & bars here have been non-smoking for a few years now.

Smoking in restaurants and the workplace has been banned in FL since summer of 2003. :teeth: :cheer2: Stand-alone bars are exempt.

[fakereadhed]

I booked a Disney cruise online yesterday, and there wasn't even an option to check whether you wanted a smoking or non-smoking room. We're not smokers, but I was curious so I read some of the fine print. If you have a veranda on your room, you can supposedly smoke out there, but not inside the room. Cigars and pipes seem to be prohibited entirely. We can't afford the veranda rooms, nor do we smoke, so it doesn't affect us.

I know cruise ships and resorts are totally different things, but just thought it was interesting.

Here's what can happen when you smoke on a cruise ship: :smokin:
http://www.ksdk.com/genthumb.ashx?e=15&w=300&h=225&i=/assetpool/images/063240824_cruise%20ship%20fire.jpg

Having asthma, I would not be upset if they only had non-smoking rooms at WDW, but I know others would miss it.

[F1Julie]

I wish all the resorts would be non-smoking. Smokers can go outside to a designated area to smoke. Cruise ships should all be non-smoking now too after that fire.

[BroadwayGirl]

I just called reservations because I had forgotten to note I wanted a non-smoking room at POR and she told me that I didn't need to add it because all the rooms are non-smoking. I called back a bit later and asked a different CM about adding the note and she said the same thing. She said that was for all the resorts and not just POR.

Anyone else hear that? I know some buildings at POR were smoking optional but I guess not anymore?

What room category have you booked? Recent changes have resulted in specific room categories at selected resorts being guaranteed non-smoking. I believe that the King bed rooms at POR are included in this. I think the Family Suites at ASMusic will also be guaranteed non-smoking but I'm not certain.

[Tissa]

We have a reservation in October for a smoking room. If they go to all non smoking rooms then don't get mad when the smokers are standing outside their rooms smoking. I get severe headaches when people are around me with heavy perfume on. Maybe they can inclose them in a little glass room too.

[eeyore45]

I'm a non-smoker who hopes the resorts don't go to 100% non-smoking.

Maybe I'm being cynical but I think some smokers are going to be smoking in their room no matter what the rules state. I'd much rather they smoke in a designated room rather than having to guess which non-smoking rooms were previously occupied by a smoker.

I couldnt agree more!!

and if they can smoke in designated areas in the Parks, I sure wish they would enforce smoking in designated areas of the resorts!! (ie NOT outside my non smoking room, nor in front of the stairwells!!)

I respect your right to smoke, please respect mine not to, as well as our medical conditions exasperated by 2nd home smoke.

<getting off soapbox>

[Tikiman]

We have a reservation in October for a smoking room. If they go to all non smoking rooms then don't get mad when the smokers are standing outside their rooms smoking. I get severe headaches when people are around me with heavy perfume on. Maybe they can inclose them in a little glass room too.

Even though I have severe asthma and even the hint of smoke makes my airway tighten I believe that smokers have a right as long as it is legal and not against the rules put in place. With that said I would hope someone who smokes would not take their anger out on the rest of us for a resort becoming smoke free and smoke in a hallway that is a nonsmoking location in the resort. I agree that too much perfume is as much of an annoyance but it is ridiculous to compare second hand smoke to perfume over dose. I guess I missed the statistics of lung cancer from second hand perfume.

[Dan Murphy]

The Swan, under the Westin umbrella, is 100% no-smoke.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2005-12-04-westin-smoking-ban_x.htm

http://www.starwoodhotels.com/promotions/promo_landing.html?category=WI_BREATHE&IM=WI_HP_PRIM_BREATHE

[BrianD]

I booked a Disney cruise online yesterday, and there wasn't even an option to check whether you wanted a smoking or non-smoking room. We're not smokers, but I was curious so I read some of the fine print. If you have a veranda on your room, you can supposedly smoke out there, but not inside the room. Cigars and pipes seem to be prohibited entirely...

Just to clarify, cigars & pipes are allowed everywhere that smoking is allowed on the Disney cruise ships. In fact, a couple of places sell cigars.

[LakeAriel]

I booked a Disney cruise online yesterday, and there wasn't even an option to check whether you wanted a smoking or non-smoking room. We're not smokers, but I was curious so I read some of the fine print. If you have a veranda on your room, you can supposedly smoke out there, but not inside the room. Cigars and pipes seem to be prohibited entirely. We can't afford the veranda rooms, nor do we smoke, so it doesn't affect us.

I know cruise ships and resorts are totally different things, but just thought it was interesting.
Considering last weeks fire on a cruise ship (One heart attack fatality) caused by someone smoking on the verandah, maybe they need to end all smoking aboard. 150 cabins were destroyed! Who do you think will pay for it?

[Selket]

I'm not interested in debating whether or not folks should smoke and where but I'd really like to know if they've done away with smoking rooms.

We have a standard 2 double beds room booked at POR for the week before Easter so I think the room category has nothing to do with it.

The 1st CM I talked to would not note it on the reservation as to her there was no chance I could get a smoking room so no need to note it. The 2nd CM put a note but also said the rooms all non-smoking.

I don't mind if there ARE smoking rooms but I was curious if anyone else making a ressie has been given the same info? Had it just been one CM I would think they're wrong but two have told me the same thing. Therefore my question! :goodvibes

[catherines_mama]

I called for ressies in June and asked for the same thing POFQ Non Smoking and was told that ALL rooms are non-smoking. We have no health needs but if I'm paying $100+ for a room I don't wanna smell stale smoke.

No offense smokers, but I'll be glad if it happens.

[EEyorelover22]

Considering last weeks fire on a cruise ship (One heart attack fatality) caused by someone smoking on the verandah, maybe they need to end all smoking aboard. 150 cabins were destroyed! Who do you think will pay for it?

A man I work with was on that cruise. He and his wife were given a full refund. Very Expensive!!

[wdwjunkie2005]

i always thought it stinks (no pun intended!) that if you want a non-smoking room, you need to ask for it. i have asthma and allergies, and whenever i stay in a hotel i have to insist on a n-s room. i only relax when i finally get to the room and find out for myself what kind it is. the folks at disney are great about it if you have a health concern. just state your need when you make your ressie. apparently, they can put your request for a n-s room in as a definite if it's a health concern (at least that's what the CM booking my ressie told me).

[CleveRocks]

In New Jersey starting April 14th all restaurants and bars, except the casino's will be non-smoking. It'll be interesting to see if they make the resort rooms non-smoking.
The new NJ law exempts only the casino gaming floors. Smoking will be illegal everywhere else inside a casino hotel building. The actual gaming floor will be the only place smoking will be permitted.

[michaelsmommy]

I can definitely relate to those of you who oppose smoking. I myself have never so much as picked up a cigarette much less smoked one, and I get angry if myself or my child is subjected to having to breathe in someone's smoke against our will. However, you will never hear me say that I wish that WDW would go non-smoking. I agree with the rooms being non-smoking, but not the park itself. I have a mom who is and has been a smoker for the past 20 years. It's an addiction that I know affects people in different ways. Some people can stop cold turkey, but others just can't no matter how bad they want to. If WDW was non-smoking then my son would probably never get to have his grandma with him to experience "the world" with him this May. Outdoor smoking areas, if strategically placed, should not interfere that much with the other guests. Should smokers be quarantined from the rest of the world just because they have a hard-to-break habit? My mom deserves to have some magic also.

[DMRick]

I used to be able to have them guarantee us a non-smoking room but they wouldn't do that today.
They guaranteed me one for May 2-9 today. The gal said she saw it in my record.

[LakeAriel]

I can definitely relate to those of you who oppose smoking. I myself have never so much as picked up a cigarette much less smoked one, and I get angry if myself or my child is subjected to having to breathe in someone's smoke against our will. However, you will never hear me say that I wish that WDW would go non-smoking. I agree with the rooms being non-smoking, but not the park itself. I have a mom who is and has been a smoker for the past 20 years. It's an addiction that I know affects people in different ways. Some people can stop cold turkey, but others just can't no matter how bad they want to. If WDW was non-smoking then my son would probably never get to have his grandma with him to experience "the world" with him this May. Outdoor smoking areas, if strategically placed, should not interfere that much with the other guests. Should smokers be quarantined from the rest of the world just because they have a hard-to-break habit? My mom deserves to have some magic also.
I smoked up to 4 packs a day for more then 30 years. I quit 10 years ago. Was it hard? Very..Can it be done? Yes! The more places ban it the more people will quit! Tell Mom to quit so your son can have many more magical years to experience "the world" with her!

[Selket]

They guaranteed me one for May 2-9 today. The gal said she saw it in my record.

Thanks for the info. I'm going to call them again today and make sure our non-smoking room is guaranteed just in case because of my son's asthma. We are arriving around check-in time so I think if there is a serious issue with the room we can get it resolved. Since we're going around Easter I know the hotel will be full though!

[RescueRanger]

I can definitely relate to those of you who oppose smoking. I myself have never so much as picked up a cigarette much less smoked one, and I get angry if myself or my child is subjected to having to breathe in someone's smoke against our will. However, you will never hear me say that I wish that WDW would go non-smoking. I agree with the rooms being non-smoking, but not the park itself. I have a mom who is and has been a smoker for the past 20 years. It's an addiction that I know affects people in different ways. Some people can stop cold turkey, but others just can't no matter how bad they want to. If WDW was non-smoking then my son would probably never get to have his grandma with him to experience "the world" with him this May. Outdoor smoking areas, if strategically placed, should not interfere that much with the other guests. Should smokers be quarantined from the rest of the world just because they have a hard-to-break habit? My mom deserves to have some magic also.


My grandmother started smoking when she was 13. When she was 73, she was hospitalized and told she may not make it out of the hospital. Her Dr told her that she had to quit smoking or she would die. My grandmother had always said that she would never quit, and that she would even smoke on her death bed. Well, near death experiences have a way of changing your mind. She never touched another cigarette and went on to live another 18 years. So when I hear people use the excuse that they just can't stop, I tell them that is horse hockey and relate the story about my grandmother. There really is nothing they can say because if a woman who smoked for 60 years can stop, they sure can. Tell your mom to stop now and give you and your family many more trips to WDW. :thumbsup2

[DisneyMomx7]

My reservation says guaranteed non-smoking, daughter has asthma.

I need a non-smoking room for that reason. We had an issue in January when we were put in a non-smoking room that someone had definitely been s smoking in.

Instead of non-smoking rooms and smoking optional rooms I wish they would make designated buildings smoking and non-smoking. That way people who smoked wouldn't worry about offending non-smokers and non-smokers wouldn't worry about the smoke drifting off the balconies and through the walls. Everyone would be happy. Even though I definitely need a non-smoking room I don't think its right for smokers not to have a smoking room if they need it. It is legal and I think they are really made to feel like they have the plague. This way everyone could have the room type they wanted.

[rabx5]

I am a smoker. I am a considerate smoker. I ALWAYS smoke at the designated smoking areas and never stand outside a doorway to smoke. If there arent any smoking areas, I do smoke outside, but well away from people. I never smoke on the balcony either.

I have ressies for the last week of June at POR and requested a smoking room. I wasn't told there were only non-smoking rooms. I do think each resort should keep a handful of smoking rooms. By gosh, I am paying $200 a night to stay there, I should be able to smoke in my room. I also think that if you make ressies and request a non-smoking room- it should be guarenteed-especially for health reasons.

I am sorry about the smokers who are inconsiderate. There is no reason for that at all. Especially at Disney- there are smoking areas in each park-why can't they use them. On another note though- I was at MGM in the smoking area, with 2 other smokers when a mom and her toddler came over and sat down on the bench and started complaining about the smoke. :confused3
After listening to her complain for a few minutes, I pointed out that she was in the designated smoking area and should find a bench somewhere else that way she won't be sucking up smoke- she then got rude and told me I was breaking the law and she could have me thrown out of the park :rolleyes2 yeah, that went over well with me. I told her to have at it. She finally left.

That's my 2 cents.
Please be gentle on me :scared:

Jodi

[smjj]

I get severe headaches when people are around me with heavy perfume on. Maybe they can inclose them in a little glass room too.
When your ashma is aggravated by perfume or you get cancer because of perfume, I might be a little more sympathic...smjj

[Selket]

I have ressies for the last week of June at POR and requested a smoking room. I wasn't told there were only non-smoking rooms.
Jodi

Any chance you could call them back and ask if POR still is honoring your smoking room request? I'm curious what they'd say!

This is what annoys me - that the first CM wouldn't even note non-smoking on my ressie and the 2nd one did it only reluctantly yet they obviously are giving folks smoking rooms. :confused3

If possible can we NOT discuss whether or not to smoke or where but just what is going on with the rooms? This is why they shouldn't have taken away the debate board here I guess - argh! I don't want the thread closed because of debates over smoking which is a COMPLETELY different issue.

[rabx5]

Any chance you could call them back and ask if POR still is honoring your smoking room request? I'm curious what they'd say!

This is what annoys me - that the first CM wouldn't even note non-smoking on my ressie and the 2nd one did it only reluctantly yet they obviously are giving folks smoking rooms. :confused3

If possible can we NOT discuss whether or not to smoke or where but just what is going on with the rooms? This is why they shouldn't have taken away the debate board here I guess - argh! I don't want the thread closed because of debates over smoking which is a COMPLETELY different issue.

I will try to call them today and ask about the smoking room/non smoking room question.

I will also not talk about smoking in general- sorry. I don't want this thread closed either.
I will let you know asap okay? :teeth:

[shellybaxter]

I'm curious, for smokers like Jodi (rabx5), would you be willing to pay extra for smoking rooms. I completely understand your point when you say you are paying $200 and you should be able to smoke if you want to. But when you and I each pay the $200 you cost Disney (or any other company) more money. The smoke from your cigs damages the drapes, bedding, pillows, fabric on furniture, etc and it has to be replaced more often. Would you be willing to pay more for a room for the right to smoke in it in order to help cover these costs? I'm just curious. I think the expense of smoking rooms is one of the reasons Weston chains gives for going smoke free.

Shelly

[rabx5]

I would not be willing to pay more. I don't think I should have to. But that's my opinion :)

Jodi

[Skroops]

I am a smoker. I am a considerate smoker. I ALWAYS smoke at the designated smoking areas and never stand outside a doorway to smoke. If there arent any smoking areas, I do smoke outside, but well away from people. I never smoke on the balcony either.

I have ressies for the last week of June at POR and requested a smoking room. I wasn't told there were only non-smoking rooms. I do think each resort should keep a handful of smoking rooms. By gosh, I am paying $200 a night to stay there, I should be able to smoke in my room. I also think that if you make ressies and request a non-smoking room- it should be guarenteed-especially for health reasons.

I am sorry about the smokers who are inconsiderate. There is no reason for that at all. Especially at Disney- there are smoking areas in each park-why can't they use them. On another note though- I was at MGM in the smoking area, with 2 other smokers when a mom and her toddler came over and sat down on the bench and started complaining about the smoke. :confused3
After listening to her complain for a few minutes, I pointed out that she was in the designated smoking area and should find a bench somewhere else that way she won't be sucking up smoke- she then got rude and told me I was breaking the law and she could have me thrown out of the park :rolleyes2 yeah, that went over well with me. I told her to have at it. She finally left.

That's my 2 cents.
Please be gentle on me :scared:

Jodi

Thank you!!!

I had to chime in and say that more and more hotels are going smoke free in the U.S. and some even have steep charges applied to the guests after departure if they have smoked in a non-smoking room as a "cleaning" charge.

[smjj]

If possible can we NOT discuss whether or not to smoke or where but just what is going on with the rooms? This is why they shouldn't have taken away the debate board here I guess - argh! I don't want the thread closed because of debates over smoking which is a COMPLETELY different issue.

Actually I think what the moderators have been doing is taking these threads and moving them over to the ongoing discussion area. If this thread is closed or moved, you might want to check there...smjj

[krbq]

Selket: We have reservations at the CR for June. I have a confirmation dated Feb. 22 stating "guaranteed smoking", so as of late February there were still smoking-optional rooms be found at WDW. Perhaps POR has gone non-smoking, but I haven't heard that anywhere else. All of the restaurants have been non-smoking for several years. Good luck on keeping your thread open!

[DMRick]

I am paying $200 a night to stay there, I should be able to smoke in my room. I also think that if you make ressies and request a non-smoking room- it should be guarenteed-especially for health reasons.

POR is the place you are paying $200 a night for? As in Port Orleans? Why so much..that's even more than rack, isn't it?

For smjj When your ashma is aggravated by perfume or you get cancer because of perfume, I might be a little more sympathic...smjj

I'm not the one who posted that, but I too get a migraine from perfume (and other chemical scents), and it does also agravate my asthma..it's not just smoke. It's several things, unfortunately. I would love it if people didn't load up on perfume, especially when flying, or going inside closed places. Many churches and public places are now having scent free areas as well as no perfume areas. I have an article on Nova Scotia, where the public buildings and schools are perfume free. So that would be my dream..no more perfume LOL.

[Esmerelda]

Very interesting post....I just made an add on reservation to my July trip to WDW two days ago. I did specify that non smoking was important due to my asthmatic son. I then questioned if all of the WDW hotels would follow suit to the Disneyland hotels and the response was "yes, we are definitely going in that direction probably by later this year". I could have kissed this guy!!! He said that they would have "outdoor" areas ONLY for smokers (and NO not on the balconies where its blowing into your neighbors faces..sorry but there would be penalties).

I think this in one of the absolute BEST things Disney could do for its patrons and I would be proud to think we bought into DVC a couple of years back and didn't know this was coming. I feel so very blessed right now as being an avid Disney customer for almost 15 yrs now.

jumping for joy here,
Esmerelda :cloud9:

ps...edited..forgot to add..this gentleman said that the Swan/Dolphin had been non-smoking for some time now and it was working wonderfully so hopefully...Disney will take note. :)

[cinmell]

I then questioned if all of the WDW hotels would follow suit to the Disneyland hotels and the response was "yes, we are definitely going in that direction probably by later this year". I could have kissed this guy!!! He said that they would have "outdoor" areas ONLY for smokers (and NO not on the balconies where its blowing into your neighbors faces..sorry but there would be penalties).

Really? This is the first I heard of this and I think it would be great! :woohoo: :woohoo:

[smjj]

I know one of the big arguments about Disney keeping smoking was that many countries outside of the US smoke more than us. Just yesterday Scotland joined Ireland, England,Spain and Italy in banning smoking. It seems the Europeans are doing it a country at a time and quite rapidly so that argument is getting harder and harder to use....smjj

[beckasher]

Everyone need not get upset over someone smoking outside of their non-smoking room at POR because we have been going there for yrs and my husband is a smoker. All their smoking rooms are in a smoking building. There shouldn't be a non-smoking room beside a smoking room. Last year there were about 2 or 3 smoking buildings. He never smoked in the room because of the grandkids but went out on the balcany but there were never any non-smoking rooms around so DON'T worry about someone next to you blowing smoke your way. This year we're staying at POP in May and requested a smoking building. They said no problem.

[Allison]

Everyone need not get upset over someone smoking outside of their non-smoking room at POR because we have been going there for yrs and my husband is a smoker. All their smoking rooms are in a smoking building. There shouldn't be a non-smoking room beside a smoking room. Last year there were about 2 or 3 smoking buildings. He never smoked in the room because of the grandkids but went out on the balcany but there were never any non-smoking rooms around so DON'T worry about someone next to you blowing smoke your way. This year we're staying at POP in May and requested a smoking building. They said no problem.

Except people request a non-smoking room and then smoke outside the room.

[Cyrano]

I know one of the big arguments about Disney keeping smoking was that many countries outside of the US smoke more than us. Just yesterday Scotland joined Ireland, England,Spain and Italy in banning smoking. It seems the Europeans are doing it a country at a time and quite rapidly so that argument is getting harder and harder to use....smjj
It was a major deal on Sunday when this came into force in Scotland. Hopefully it will change the culture for future generations :thumbsup2

[eeyore45]

Everyone need not get upset over someone smoking outside of their non-smoking room at POR because we have been going there for yrs and my husband is a smoker. All their smoking rooms are in a smoking building. There shouldn't be a non-smoking room beside a smoking room. Last year there were about 2 or 3 smoking buildings. He never smoked in the room because of the grandkids but went out on the balcany but there were never any non-smoking rooms around so DON'T worry about someone next to you blowing smoke your way. This year we're staying at POP in May and requested a smoking building. They said no problem.

I just called and did request non smoking for our Pop room, no mention of it going all "no" smoking....

and I do thank all those considerate smokers that deligently following the rules - I believe here more smokers than not do follow the rules.... However in October I stayed in POR Perterre Place, non smoking, my room smelled of smoke - mousekeeping came and sprayed, it helped, and every morning trying to leave the Mansion to go to the buses, there were 2 smokers standing at the stairs... which made it worse they left their butts in the same place, and all week those butts stayed there, no clean up - that is rude, inconsiderate, and NOT the norm for most Disney patrons imho!!

(and I sympathize with the perfume issue, as a teacher has issues and I sub for her, she cant take her classes on field trips!!)

[KNEIPPK]

We have a reservation in October for a smoking room. If they go to all non smoking rooms then don't get mad when the smokers are standing outside their rooms smoking. I get severe headaches when people are around me with heavy perfume on. Maybe they can inclose them in a little glass room too.



:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :thumbsup2 :thumbsup2

smokers unite- we will all stand on the balcony and puff away

[yellowfish78]

Boy, it took me a while to catch up on this thread!

I'm a smoker. I really DO try to be a considerate smoker too.
I wouldn't pay more for a smoking room. I would pay a fee if I smoked in a non-smoking room (but I wouldn't actually do that. It's a non-smoking room! I won't even smoke in a non-smoking rental car!)
My reservation is for September/October. I have "guaranteed smoking" on my reservation. After reading this, I called Disney and asked them if they would soon be following suit like Disneyland did. Both times I called, they both said no, and one even checked with a supervisor.
My feeling is that if they really, really want to make this simple so non-smokers arn't in smoking rooms is to guarantee non-smoking and smoking rooms right off the bat when payment is made to Disney (not just 5 days out). I'm fine with finding out that if one hotel wasn't available for smoking then I'll just try another. But this is too hard to do. Reservations can change so much.
I also think the resorts should have smoking areas designated as well. I'd be more than happy to walk to an area where there is an ashtray and NOT bother others. Like in the theme parks.
If WDW goes non-smoking so be it. I'll learn to deal with it. Hopefully everyone else would too. It's not like I'd say "I'm not going to Disney because it's non-smoking"! That'd be crazy!

I hope I stayed on topic about the rooms enough!

[wdwjunkie2005]

it sounds to me like you can get a guarantee on a non-smoking room, but non-smoking rooms are not guaranteed. why is that? seems to me it's more important for a non-smoker to have a n-s room than it is for a smoker to get a smoking room. smokers can go outside to light up, but non-smokers can't escape the smell and the allergy/asthma-inducing residue of a room that's been smoked in.
:confused3

[studentmom]

Last month I booked a room at All Star Movie for Nov. and I was told the exact same thing. The CM told me that as of March 1 (I think that was the day, hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong), that all of the rooms would be non-smoking. Now, I'm not sure if he just meant that people who booked after that date would only have non smoking rooms or that as of that date the new 'rule' would automatically be in effect :confused3 . But he did tell me that when I asked about a non smoking room. He also might have only meant that ASM was doing this, I really don't know :confused3 .
I was going to post something about it, but I assumed someone else had.

[KimberlyC]

I agree that smokers should not smoke in a non-smoking room, but I do not see the problem with smoking outside, in the fresh air. Yet I see that some people on this thread take issue with this as well. I have a non-smoking home for the sake of my child and have reserved a non-smoking hotel room. I'll smoke outside at the hotel, the same as I do at home.

[DMRick]

I agree that smokers should not smoke in a non-smoking room, but I do not see the problem with smoking outside, in the fresh air. Yet I see that some people on this thread take issue with this as well. I have a non-smoking home for the sake of my child and have reserved a non-smoking hotel room. I'll smoke outside at the hotel, the same as I do at home.
I think the problem for some is, the air conditioners at the values and mods grab the air from just outside the room. Many people smoke right outside the doors, and the smoke gets pulled in. Also, because of the way they are built, the smoke gets "trapped" by the top of the walkway, it doesn't just blow away, so when you come of your door, you often get a facefull. I mentioned once on another thread, where the guy next door continued to smoke in front of our door, and finally one of us asked him why he didn't smoke in front of his door a few doors down, and his reply was that his child had asthma and the smoke was getting in the room.

[eeyore45]

I agree with DMRick, my cousin smokes outside, due to her sons allegies/asthma... the pediatrician was very strict/stern with them - so they dont smoke in their home...

and the same issues with the a/c unit and I've posted... when trying to exit POR mansion to walk to the bus we had to pass by 2 smokers standing/sitting on the stairs that we needed to use to exit -


yet I understood standing there - it was a hassle to walk down those 2 flights of stairs, and go around the corner to the "smoking area"

which is why I do not believe wdw designating themselves as "non smoking" will work - unless they follow thru with fines - which we all know WDW will NOT do - they will get the "status" of "non smoking resorts" but in reality - smokers will smoke where they will!!

[rabx5]

POR is the place you are paying $200 a night for? As in Port Orleans? Why so much..that's even more than rack, isn't it?


I'm sorry- last year we stayed at AKL Savannah $$$Chaching$$$. This year we are staying at POR.

:)
Jodi

[PamNC]

When we made our May ressie a few weeks ago, I was told the same thing. He said the Swan and Dolphin were already non-smoking and they were slowly but surely eliminating all the smoking rooms at all of the resorts.

THANK GOD.

PamNC

[DVC Sadie]

[QUOTE=Esmerelda]Very interesting post....I just made an add on reservation to my July trip to WDW two days ago. I did specify that non smoking was important due to my asthmatic son. I then questioned if all of the WDW hotels would follow suit to the Disneyland hotels and the response was "yes, we are definitely going in that direction probably by later this year". I could have kissed this guy!!! He said that they would have "outdoor" areas ONLY for smokers (and NO not on the balconies where its blowing into your neighbors faces..sorry but there would be penalties).

I think this in one of the absolute BEST things Disney could do for its patrons and I would be proud to think we bought into DVC a couple of years back and didn't know this was coming. I feel so very blessed right now as being an avid Disney customer for almost 15 yrs now.

jumping for joy here,
Esmerelda :cloud9:

I hope being an avid Disney customer since 1959 (California), and WDW since 1971 that the disney corporation will allow smoking in some of their buildings and some of their properties at WDW.

I don't think WDW enforces their rules now with room occupanciy, ages for dining plans etc.... I just don't see them penalizing a smoker for smoking on a balcony, do you?
Just a different perspective on this whole resort non smoking issue.

L

[smjj]

Then you have the people like us who request a non-smoking room, get it, arrive at it and open the door to the non-smoking room only to find that it was smoked in. Then you must enter the polluted room, use the phone to call Guest Service, complained to them only to have them tell you they will try to switch us then aggree to swirtch us. Then as my wife waited outside the room because she could not stand the smoke while I went back up to Guest Service to get the room switched and then return to have our luggage removed from the polluted room. This cost us over an hour in the rain all because someone decided the heck with the rules...smjj

[clkelley]

Part of the problem is, I don't think there are enough smoking rooms. When I've traveled to WDW without my family and have requested a Smoking room, I've NEVER gotten one. (and that is the only request I put in cause I don't care about location when I'm going to WDW solo). I have called back to the desk and asked each time, but was told no Smoking rooms available.

Although, it hasn't been a big deal because when I'm solo, I'm only in the room from about 2am till 6am (I shower and crash), it is still annoying to have to go outside and downstairs to smoke. Part of the enjoyment of my solo trips is to be able to do what I want to do and smoke in my room. (Don't do it with my family along, don't smoke in my house at home).

[Lewisc]

Then you have the people like us who request a non-smoking room, get it, arrive at it and open the door to the non-smoking room only to find that it was smoked in. Then you must enter the polluted room, use the phone to call Guest Service, complained to them only to have them tell you they will try to switch us then aggree to swirtch us. Then as my wife waited outside the room because she could not stand the smoke while I went back up to Guest Service to get the room switched and then return to have our luggage removed from the polluted room. This cost us over an hour in the rain all because someone decided the heck with the rules...smjj

and not providing any smoking rooms is likely to increase this problem.

[spiceycat]

there was a time when the building were equal smoking and non-smoking...

but starting in the 90's because of kids being sick - non-smoking started to take off - so WDW little by little has eliminated smoking rooms - there are probably like only 5% might be 10% smoking rooms on property.... but this is due to demand....

there is less and less a demand for smoking rooms and a greater one for non-smoking....

besides with those new studies about second hand smoke - oh yes - disney does not want to be sue because someone smoked in a non-smoking area and someone else got sick....

I don't need to remind anyone that Disney does enforce their capacaity rules.

I think if they are afraid of a lawsuite by non-smokers they will definely enforce this new rule.... You smoke in a non-smoking place - you will be asked to put it out - you don't complied and what you want to bet on your hotel bill be a charge..... or you might be asked to leave.

[coach4448]

When we made our May ressie a few weeks ago, I was told the same thing. He said the Swan and Dolphin were already non-smoking and they were slowly but surely eliminating all the smoking rooms at all of the resorts.

THANK GOD.

PamNC
Only the Swan, which is a Westin property, is non-smoking. The Dolphin is a Sheraton property is still has smoking rooms.

[smjj]

and not providing any smoking rooms is likely to increase this problem.

And that is where the fines come in. If they are going to do it then they need to go all the way and fine people for smoking in non-smoking room. Other hotel chains are doing this now and it works..smjj

[poly_rules]

[QUOTE=Esmerelda]
j I just don't see them penalizing a smoker for smoking on a balcony, do you?L

They should penalize for smoking on balconies. It is quite annoying to request a non-smoking room and not be able to sit out on your balcony to watch the fireworks at night or read the paper in the morning because the guy next door (also in a non-smoking room) is out on the balcony right next to mine smoking. :smokin: :rolleyes: :furious:

p.s.
And yes, I do believe that if you are in a non-smoking room, the balcony should be non-smoking as well.

[pedro2112]

[QUOTE=DVC Sadie]

They should penalize for smoking on balconies. It is quite annoying to request a non-smoking room and not be able to sit out on your balcony to watch the fireworks at night or read the paper in the morning because the guy next door (also in a non-smoking room) is out on the balcony right next to mine smoking. :smokin: :rolleyes: :furious:



I'm not sure what would prevent you from going out on your own balcony? Was your post mistyped and you meant somone smoking on your balcony?

[DVC Sadie]

[QUOTE=DVC Sadie]

They should penalize for smoking on balconies. It is quite annoying to request a non-smoking room and not be able to sit out on your balcony to watch the fireworks at night or read the paper in the morning because the guy next door (also in a non-smoking room) is out on the balcony right next to mine smoking. :smokin: :rolleyes: :furious:

p.s.
And yes, I do believe that if you are in a non-smoking room, the balcony should be non-smoking as well.


With all the rules that Disney has in place that aren't enforced I just don't see them enforcing the no smoking on the balcony. Thats all I was trying to say. I'd love to see them enforce the rules they already have in place but it appears not to be a big concern for them so therefore I really don't need to be concerned either. Just my take on things.

[poly_rules]

[QUOTE=poly_rules]

I'm not sure what would prevent you from going out on your own balcony? Was your post mistyped and you meant somone smoking on your balcony?

No it wasn't a typo. I should have been more clear, my apologies. The smoke from the guy would just blow right over with the breeze and the balconies are pretty close together. It was gross and smelly. I requested a non-smoking room and I believe that the balcony that is attached to the n/s room should be n/s too.

[MinnieFan4ever]

I have not read all the posts, sorry if someone posted something like this already...

I have checked into 2 different hotels that were all non smoking. I had to sign a waiver that I understood that there was a no smoking policy in the hotel. If they suspected that I smoked in my room, I would be charged a $200.00 cleaning fee.

I was fine with the policy because I am a non smoker.

[smjj]

I shoild have inclued this in my last post about people smoking in a non-smoking room. I ask the manager about a report I had seen that some CM's were granting permission for guest to smoke in non-smoking room. She said this shoudl never happen. She went on to say that many time guest will smoke on their balcony and the smoke is pulled into the room. Many quest open and close the door quite a bit or leave it ajar while on it. This is why if a room is designated as non-smoking, the balconey should be included..smjj

[Sarangel]

Somehow this ended up on the Rumors & News board, which it clearly isn't (rumor or news, that is). I'm moving it to the Resorts board, since I don't know where it came from.

Sarangel

[byoung]

Non smoking gets my vote.

[Allison]

Somehow this ended up on the Rumors & News board, which it clearly isn't (rumor or news, that is). I'm moving it to the Resorts board, since I don't know where it came from.

Sarangel

Sounds like a rumor to me based on the original. It started on the resorts board and was moved.

[Selket]

I'm not sure what you are saying is a rumour but I was told by 2 CM"s (as I said in my original post) that I did not need to reserve a non-smoking room at POR for my trip next week as the rooms are all going non-smoking. I have a standard 2 bed room reserved. The 1st CM would not note it on the reservation. I called back and the 2nd one told me the same but she told me she noted it.

I posted to find out if others had been told the same thing - I only noticed one person posting who had (for a different resort). I thought it was odd that two CM's told me the same thing when it hadn't been reported here - I'd think going non-smoking would be big news!

I don't know what to think at this point except that I still need to call back and re-check which I haven't done. I need a non-smoking room because my son has asthma. Whew! :badpc: :)

[Allison]

I'm not sure what you are saying is a rumour but I was told by 2 CM"s (as I said in my original post) that I did not need to reserve a non-smoking room at POR for my trip next week as the rooms are all going non-smoking. I have a standard 2 bed room reserved. The 1st CM would not note it on the reservation. I called back and the 2nd one told me the same but she told me she noted it.

I posted to find out if others had been told the same thing - I only noticed one person posting who had (for a different resort). I thought it was odd that two CM's told me the same thing when it hadn't been reported here - I'd think going non-smoking would be big news!

I don't know what to think at this point except that I still need to call back and re-check which I haven't done. I need a non-smoking room because my son has asthma. Whew! :badpc: :)

I mean just the fact that there has not been an official announcement as far as the rumor part. I think it is very interesting news so my point was I didn't understand why someone thought it didn't fit in the rumors/news category. It certainly seems to fit as potential news in my eyes. My post was not making any kind of statement about the validity of your original post. I think it is quite interesting.

[shellybaxter]

I don't know what to think at this point except that I still need to call back and re-check which I haven't done. I need a non-smoking room because my son has asthma. Whew! :badpc: :)

Carol,

I'm sure this is a little frustrating for you because no one can really confirm what you were told. I was thinking you should maybe call the medical request people. I'm not sure what their number is or their real name (I know, helpful aren't I :) ) but there is a group at WDW that deals with special medical needs. I'm sure they have the number over on the disabilities board. They would probably be more up on issues of smoking in room due to all of the people who need non smoking rooms for asthma and such.

Shelly

[kaytieeldr]

now all they have to do is make the parks non smoking too and alot of hassle with designated smoking spots would disappear. Applebees went non smoking and doesn't seem to be hurting their business bar or resturant. I've seem too many people in recent trips to Disney parks smoking everywhere, even in lines. Ah, but a stand-alone single-building facility is MUCH different from a theme park. Aside from the theme park's multiple buildings, MUCH of the property is outdoors - where, for the most part, smokers across the country can indulge. Too, don't forget that many Disney Guests are from other countries - where smoking is much more widely accepted.

It would be nice of WDW resorts to have a special covered/enclosed smoking area for smokers on each floor so they don't stand outside of their room next to ours and smoke- we have to walk through their smoke to get by them and it often gets sucked into the air system of the rooms next to theirs- basically negating the non-smoking room requests. Well, no, it doesn't. You are getting your non-smoking room. Currently, Florida has no restrictions on outdoor smoking. For future visits, you might want to look into renting points from a DVC owner and staying at Old Key West. Only three of the fifty or so buildings are smoking-optional; the rest are non-smoking AND the resort covers a wide area - so you don't even need to be NEAR a building that has units in which a Guest might smoke.

and if they can smoke in designated areas in the Parks, I sure wish they would enforce smoking in designated areas of the resorts!! (ie NOT outside my non smoking room, nor in front of the stairwells!!) Ah, but there ARE no designated non-smoking areas outdoors at any of the resorts. Nothing to enforce. In fact (and this may well have changed) when we stayed in the desirable Building 14, Alligator Bayou, POR - despite the rooms in that building being non-smoking, Disney had placed a number of ashtrays outside on the 'porch'.

As for the official smoking/non-smoking room policy, as of three minutes ago, "non-smoking" is still an option that can be selected at disneyworld.com when booking a room - so I think it's simply an unsubstantiated rumor, IF that. Remember, 1-407-WDISNEY is the number to call for booking rooms at BOTH resorts, and the non-smoking policy is much stricter in California.

[Esmerelda]

Hi Carol,

Obviously I cannot confirm what you and I are being told. I only know that I was told by a CM just last Sunday that Disney was going in this direction this year. He said they have about 89% of guests that want non smoking rooms. I read an interesting article the other day about hotels going non smoking. At the moment, I cannot locate it but it did state that Westin hotels had been very successful with their new policy and their guests were happy. It went on to say that the rooms were easier to clean (ie: bed linens, furniture, walls...etc) so financially it had been a good move on their part. Have a great vacation.

hoping for a good outcome,
Esmerelda :smooth:

[coach4448]

This article also sheds some light on the subject. It's fairly recent and makes no mention of WDW going smoke free for all rooms.

Christopher Boyd
Sentinel Staff Writer
March 15, 2006

Hotel rooms are among the few remaining redoubts for cigarette smokers whose habit increasingly is relegated to benches on the peripheries of parking lots.

In what could fast become a trend in the lodging industry, even the availability of those rooms is shrinking.

At Westin Hotels and Resorts and Disneyland in California, smoking is out -- and ever more hotels and resorts are restricting where guests can light up.

"People these days hate smoke," said Abe Pizam, dean of the University of Central Florida's Rosen College of Hospitality Management.

The no-smoking movement has been growing across the country, with state and local governments adopting restrictions. Florida prohibits smoking in most indoor public spaces, including bars and restaurants.

Hotels are just the latest flash point in a cultural shift, Pizam said.

Westin, which operates the Swan Hotel at Walt Disney World and the Grand Bohemian Hotel in downtown Orlando, banned smoking in its 29,000 hotel rooms around the nation in January. Under the new policy, Westin prohibits smoking in all rooms, restaurants, bars and public areas at its 77 properties in the United States, Canada and the Caribbean.

"We found that only about 4 percent of our guests smoked in their rooms," said Sue Brush, Westin's senior vice president. "Obviously, it was a risk, because 4 percent represents millions of dollars in revenue. But we concluded we could get more business as a result of making this change."

Westin, which has promoted healthy lifestyles as part of its advertising campaign, concluded that an outright prohibition on smoking would fit its image.

Westin isn't the only hotelier ending or considering an end to smoke. Disneyland in California imposed a ban at its hotels last month, and smoking has been restricted to ever smaller areas at Walt Disney World.

"On average, 95 percent of our rooms are now nonsmoking," Disney World spokeswoman Kim Prunty said. "There is a general downward trend in smoking that is continuing."

Prunty said Disney World and Disneyland cater to somewhat different clientele. Disney World attracts a substantial number of foreign travelers who are less accustomed to restrictions on smoking than domestic ones.

Other hotel companies are reducing smoking rooms.

Lisa Cole, spokeswoman for Hilton Hotels, said group travelers and overseas tourists continue to create a demand for limited smoking rooms.

"A lot of hotels have found that people don't want smoking rooms," Cole said. "For now, we're leaving it up to our individual properties to set smoking policies."

Hilton owns the Doubletree Hotel on International Drive and The Hilton at Walt Disney World Village, a hotel where 8 percent of the rooms allow smoking.

Westin says the ban on smoking required an initial investment of about $2.9 million.

"Bedspreads needed to be replaced, drapes needed cleaning, walls had to be scrubbed and carpets needed shampoo," Brush said. "The idea was to get the odor out and start fresh."

Pizam, of UCF's Rosen College, said the decision to ban smoking is, in the end, driven by the market and customer preference.

As popular as smoking bans are with some guests, smokers continue to represent a niche. If enough hotels ban smoking, Pizam said, a genre of hotels that cater to smoking might appear.

"I wouldn't be surprised that there is a whole class of hotels for smokers," Pizam said. "But the jury is still out on Westin. I expect other companies will wait and see. If Westin loses market share, the trend might not move so fast."

[rabx5]

Dear Jodi,

Thank you for contacting the Walt Disney World Resort.

Please know all rooms at all of our resorts are not all non smoking rooms.

We hope this information is helpful and we look forward to your visit.

If you have questions or need further assistance, feel free to contact us.

Please include your full name, E-Mail address, and reservation number if
applicable on all
correspondence.

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Ronda

WDW Online Communications

PLEASE NOTE: All information is subject to change without notice and should be
confirmed just prior
to your visit.

[TiggerInLBV]

The 3 resort hotels at Disneyland in CA are going non-smoking effective I believe on May 1, 2006. Ninety-five percent of all resort rooms at WDW are non-smoking but yes, if you want non-smoking then you must request it to be added to your reservation when you book it.

[rnorberg]

OK, i can't read anymore of these posts. I am a non-smoker....but... i get annoyed when people regard smoking as the plague...its somewhat annoying and i dont like the smell, but its not nearly as big of a deal as you guys are making it out to be. there are a few smoking areas in the parks...so what!! there may be a handfull of smoking rooms still left at the resorts...so what!! if you hate smoking that bad, lobby your congressman to make it illegal, but until that happens, let smokers have a few areas to exercise there legal habit! sheesh.

[DMRick]

OK, i can't read anymore of these posts. I am a non-smoker....but... i get annoyed when people regard smoking as the plague...its somewhat annoying and i dont like the smell, but its not nearly as big of a deal as you guys are making it out to be.
And it's not to everybody. My husband has no breathing problems, no allergies and no asthma. To him it's not a problem, except when he sees me trying to breath as if under water. However, to some it's a real problem. I've lost two parents to smoke related cancer, and second hand smoke problems have been proved. For some of us it's much more than annoying, and seeing how many states and countries (Ireland comes to mind) are making changes about where smoking can take place, apparently it's a big issue. Many smokers are conscious of the problems and try to smoke in places that won't bother others. I think people here are talking about those who aren't.

[new_mouser]

How about if each hotel had smoking lounges? Or allow smoking in the bars? I'm a non-smoker who is highly sensitve to smoke, but I certainly don't advocate pushing smokers outside in a back alley if it's raining. They have as much right to a vacation as anyone else. Plus, I agree with the posts that if the entire resort were to go non-smoking, some people would break the law and smoke in the rooms, creating more of a hassle for non-smokers. As for balconies, well you're kind of living in your room, but no one is going to force you to go outside on a balcony. If your neighbor is smoking, just stay inside for a few minutes. Smoke does go away outside.

ETA: I am very allergic to cats. Can we just ban all of the cats in this country? Or maybe people who own cats should have to pay an extra fine. (this is a joke for those who don't understand sarcasm, I don't advocate the killing of cats, either)

[Dopey420]

How about if each hotel had smoking lounges? Or allow smoking in the bars? I'm a non-smoker who is highly sensitve to smoke, but I certainly don't advocate pushing smokers outside in a back alley if it's raining. They have as much right to a vacation as anyone else. Plus, I agree with the posts that if the entire resort were to go non-smoking, some people would break the law and smoke in the rooms, creating more of a hassle for non-smokers. As for balconies, well you're kind of living in your room, but no one is going to force you to go outside on a balcony. If your neighbor is smoking, just stay inside for a few minutes. Smoke does go away outside.

ETA: I am very allergic to cats. Can we just ban all of the cats in this country? Or maybe people who own cats should have to pay an extra fine. (this is a joke for those who don't understand sarcasm, I don't advocate the killing of cats, either)

I totally disagree. First of all, that smoke has been INSIDE SOMEONE'S BODY, mingling with blood, mucous, saliva, etc. Then they expel that smoke, AND IT ENVELOPES YOU AND YOUR FOOD, after it has been INSIDE ANOTHER PERSON'S BODY. Just imagine what their lungs look like... Perhaps I should take a dump in public too, instead of going to the required area (bathroom).

Second, cats are already banned from restaurants and most public areas. So that is not a good analogy, even in sarcasm.

[Selket]

I finally *did* make that call - and called special services as someone suggested - and here's the deal. They DO still have smoking rooms at all of the WDW resorts - just as usual. She did confirm that I'm guaranteed a non-smoking room. I was always able to get the guarantee through the regular reservations number for a standard 2 bed room. I must have had the odd luck of getting two different CM's who thought the same WRONG thing.

So smokers should know that smoking rooms are still being made available and non-smokers who need guaranteed non-smoking rooms are still able to get them. :thumbsup2

[rabx5]

I totally disagree. First of all, that smoke has been INSIDE SOMEONE'S BODY, mingling with blood, mucous, saliva, etc. Then they expel that smoke, AND IT ENVELOPES YOU AND YOUR FOOD, after it has been INSIDE ANOTHER PERSON'S BODY. Just imagine what their lungs look like... Perhaps I should take a dump in public too, instead of going to the required area (bathroom).

Second, cats are already banned from restaurants and most public areas. So that is not a good analogy, even in sarcasm.

:sad2:
There was nothing nice in that response at all.

[smjj]

OK, i can't read anymore of these posts. I am a non-smoker....but... i get annoyed when people regard smoking as the plague...its somewhat annoying and i dont like the smell, but its not nearly as big of a deal as you guys are making it out to be. there are a few smoking areas in the parks...so what!! there may be a handfull of smoking rooms still left at the resorts...so what!! if you hate smoking that bad, lobby your congressman to make it illegal, but until that happens, let smokers have a few areas to exercise there legal habit! sheesh.

It is a plague. That is why so many communities and even countries are banning it. If it does not bother you, great you are lucky but for myself and many others it causes us much grieve and discomfort. Even if it does not bother you that much, you still are not immune from its effect on your body. I pray you never have to find that out first hand ...smjj

[DVCconvert]

I wish all the resorts would be non-smoking. Smokers can go outside to a designated area to smoke. Cruise ships should all be non-smoking now too after that fire.

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Sorry...but all interest groups deserve fair representation.

[wdwjunkie2005]

I totally disagree. First of all, that smoke has been INSIDE SOMEONE'S BODY, mingling with blood, mucous, saliva, etc. Then they expel that smoke, AND IT ENVELOPES YOU AND YOUR FOOD, after it has been INSIDE ANOTHER PERSON'S BODY. Just imagine what their lungs look like... Perhaps I should take a dump in public too, instead of going to the required area (bathroom).

With that said, you might as well go over and stick your tongue in their mouth! :p

[smjj]

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Sorry...but all interest groups deserve fair representation.

Boy I could really fly this that statement but I won't. I feel that its just a matter of time. Disney will eventually come around and ban smoking and I feel make a good faith effort to allow some limited smoking in a limited number of places. They are almost there, they just need to crack down and stick to their guns if they do and for once enforce the rule. Maybe a statement at checkin that a smoker would have to sign stating penitilies 'could' be assessed for cleaning if you smoked in your room. I have read here an other places where several hotel chains are doing this already and it seems to work..smjj

[bethbuchall]

I totally disagree. First of all, that smoke has been INSIDE SOMEONE'S BODY, mingling with blood, mucous, saliva, etc. Then they expel that smoke, AND IT ENVELOPES YOU AND YOUR FOOD, after it has been INSIDE ANOTHER PERSON'S BODY. Just imagine what their lungs look like... Perhaps I should take a dump in public too, instead of going to the required area (bathroom).

Second, cats are already banned from restaurants and most public areas. So that is not a good analogy, even in sarcasm.


Same thing happens with breathing. That CO2 that people are expelling from INSIDE their bodies is all around you. Not only that it's a WASTE product. As for analogies, yours is even worse than the cat one.

Beth

[KimberlyC]

It is a plague.

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Wow! Now its been awhile, but I seem to remember locusts, frogs, gnats, flies, and hail. I do NOT remember any of my Sunday school teachers ever talking about the plague of cigar/cigarette smoke. Shame on them for keeping knowledge of this plague all to themselves.

And why wasn't I ever advised about "Smoker", the fith Horseman of the Apocolypse? :confused3 :teeth: :teeth: :teeth:

[FigNewton]

Boy I could really fly this that statement but I won't. I feel that its just a matter of time. Disney will eventually come around and ban smoking and I feel make a good faith effort to allow some limited smoking in a limited number of places. They are almost there, they just need to crack down and stick to their guns if they do and for once enforce the rule. Maybe a statement at checkin that a smoker would have to sign stating penitilies 'could' be assessed for cleaning if you smoked in your room. I have read here an other places where several hotel chains are doing this already and it seems to work..smjj

One rule is just like any other for someone who is going to break it.

Disney should enforce the rules they have now, and if they did, there wouldn't be any real problems.

[DVCconvert]

Originally Posted by smjj
Fignewton said:
One rule is just like any other for someone who is going to break it.

Disney should enforce the rules they have now, and if they did, there wouldn't be any real problems.


Awww...but that would take all the 'fun' out of it for some posters!! :( ;)

[smjj]

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Wow! Now its been awhile, but I seem to remember locusts, frogs, gnats, flies, and hail. I do NOT remember any of my Sunday school teachers ever talking about the plague of cigar/cigarette smoke. Shame on them for keeping knowledge of this plague all to themselves.

And why wasn't I ever advised about "Smoker", the fith Horseman of the Apocolypse? :confused3 :teeth: :teeth: :teeth:

Ah, but you are talking about bibical plagues(hail included??). I wonder how many people they have killed in the last couple hundred years. Smoking and the second hand smoke in the US kills over 300,000 a year alone. I would define that as a modern day plague...smjj

[DVCconvert]

I would define that as a modern day plague...smjj


From the Center for Disease Control Website:

Introduction: Plague is an infectious disease of animals and humans caused by a bacterium named Yersinia pestis.

People usually get plague from being bitten by a rodent flea that is carrying the plague bacterium or by handling an infected animal. Millions of people in Europe died from plague in the Middle Ages, when human homes and places of work were inhabited by flea-infested rats.

So...I guess it isn't 'a plague'. :smokin:

[smjj]

From the Center for Disease Control Website:


So...I guess it isn't 'a plague'. :smokin:

This is getting silly. You know what I meant. I am dropping out of this thread. This is my last entry into a thread that has served its usefullness and has gone downhill every sence. I think its time for it to be closed....smjj

[Goofy4WDW1964]

I am a smoker. When I am at Disney World, I only smoke in my room if it is a smoking room. I have never smoked outside of a non-smoking room. I don't smoke outside the smoking area. I didn't even smoke in line when you could smoke in line. I too have been involved in a conversation with someone who sits down in the smoking area and complains about the smoke. Nothing posted on here is new. I think Disney should keep the smoking areas of the park, keep some of their rooms smoking. Restaraunts and shops should be non-smoking, buses should be non-smoking. They don't need to become a completely non-smoking resort to keep ALL of their guests happy. They just need to enforce the rules they have put in place.

And for all of you who think that smoking should be banned at all of Disney World should think about how you got there first. Your cars you drive to get there, the jets you fly to get there, are causing far greater health problems than any smoker ever can in an entire lifetime. When you give up your car completely, let me know. I will give up smoking completely. And don't try to post that it's different, because it isn't. It's just finally hitting something that you don't want to give up.

[DVCconvert]

Goofy4WDW1964 wrote:
And for all of you who think that smoking should be banned at all of Disney World should think about how you got there first. Your cars you drive to get there, the jets you fly to get there, are causing far greater health problems than any smoker ever can in an entire lifetime. When you give up your car completely, let me know. I will give up smoking completely. And don't try to post that it's different, because it isn't. It's just finally hitting something that you don't want to give up.


I'm soo sorry Goofy4WDW1964 -- but it's been determined by those who have all the answers that your logic simply doesn't hold up! :(

Your opinions maybe deemed socially unacceptable -- despite your best efforts to accomondate the will of 'the masses' and the rights of the 'minority'.
You may have actually crossed the line into "sillyness" which will earn you nothing grief and condemnation. The mega tons of pollutants poured into the air we all breath by all those methods of transportation used by those who condem you, couldn't possible cause the same level of health concerns that someone who might be consuming a taboo product 25 feet away from others could cause. Sorry.

[new_mouser]

Not sure if this has been mentioned in one of the previous 100 or so posts, but I have clarification on this because I called back to request a non-smoking room. The CM with whom I spoke said that "all rooms are non-smoking unless smoking is requested." I think that's where the confusion - and the rumor - began. I would still request non-smoking if you want to make sure you get it, but if you are a smoker you are still able to book a smoking room.

[new_mouser]

I totally disagree. First of all, that smoke has been INSIDE SOMEONE'S BODY, mingling with blood, mucous, saliva, etc. Then they expel that smoke, AND IT ENVELOPES YOU AND YOUR FOOD, after it has been INSIDE ANOTHER PERSON'S BODY. Just imagine what their lungs look like... Perhaps I should take a dump in public too, instead of going to the required area (bathroom).

Second, cats are already banned from restaurants and most public areas. So that is not a good analogy, even in sarcasm.

Yes, the cat sarcasm IS a good analogy. There are three cats on my street, and I can't even plant flowers without them leaping on top of me. They get in my carport, they get on top of my car, one even got IN my car, they get their stupid cat fur all over the front porch, they bring dead birds and drop them in my yard, when I want to go out on my backyard deck, they pop in and rub their stupid cat bodies all over me -and even when I'm not there on my patio furniture. They are a total nuisance, and I hate the fact that I have to take allegra if I want to cookout on my own back deck. So please try not to comment on things when you don't have all the facts. Interestingly enough, my next door neighbors don't want to keep their cat inside because even THEY are allergic to her. However, smoking is banned in the restaurants where I live.

[KimberlyC]

Yes, the cat sarcasm IS a good analogy. There are three cats on my street, and I can't even plant flowers without them leaping on top of me. They get in my carport, they get on top of my car, one even got IN my car, they get their stupid cat fur all over the front porch, they bring dead birds and drop them in my yard, when I want to go out on my backyard deck, they pop in and rub their stupid cat bodies all over me -and even when I'm not there on my patio furniture. They are a total nuisance, and I hate the fact that I have to take allegra if I want to cookout on my own back deck. So please try not to comment on things when you don't have all the facts. Interestingly enough, my next door neighbors don't want to keep their cat inside because even THEY are allergic to her. However, smoking is banned in the restaurants where I live.

Just smoke by them. This may cause them to stop breathing and die, or so I've read.

No cats have been harmed in the making of this post.

[pepperw23]

We have a reservation in October for a smoking room. If they go to all non smoking rooms then don't get mad when the smokers are standing outside their rooms smoking. I get severe headaches when people are around me with heavy perfume on. Maybe they can inclose them in a little glass room too.

THANK YOU!!! I am highly allergic to perfume...I mean highly. I almost ended up in the hospital a couple of months ago (ER Doctor wanted to admit, but second opinion Dr. said if I did not get better in 1 day then admit. I still had to stay overnight in the ER though.) What triggered it? Someone in a hotel room before me felt the need to bathe in perfume. I would much rather smell the smoke.

Some people that do not smoke complain about smoke, but the whole time spraying perfume, hairspray, lysol in rooms(has same chemical I, and most perfume allergics are allergic to) etc, without a second thought to others. So the next time you try to play the lemming and claim "asthma, or "annoying" etc, put the perfume bottle down first.

k, that was my vent...let the blasting begin.

[DMRick]

I think several people have mentioned a problem with perfume as well. I do have asthma and you would never catch me wearing perfume..we had to turn in a rental car back at the airport our second day in, because we couldn't wash the smell off a seatbelt. Most people who have asthma do not use perfume. While there may be some that just don't like the dangers of second hand smoke, perfumes don't have the same dangers to someone without allergies or asthma.
I don't have a problem with those who smoke in intended areas. I just avoid those areas. I just wish there was a section of the pool and other outdoor areas that is smoking..and I'm sure smokers would like that too, so they can stop getting dirty looks for smoking in allowed places.

Some people that do not smoke complain about smoke, but the whole time spraying perfume, hairspray, lysol in rooms(has same chemical I, and most perfume allergics are allergic to) etc, without a second thought to others. So the next time you try to play the lemming and claim "asthma, or "annoying" etc, put the perfume bottle down first.