Has anyone changed their opinion of SSR?

[SaratogaShan]

Hey,

One more SSR thread is exactly what we needed, right? ;)

I see a lot of posts from folks who don't like SSR very much who have never actually stayed there. This made me wonder.........Has anyone changed their minds after staying? Did you form an opinion of the resort based on a tour or quick visit and then had a vacation different from what you expected (good or bad)?

So tell me....what was your expectation before your first stay, and how has your opinion changed now?

Shan :sunny:

[dianeschlicht]

My opinion was based on 8 years of previous stays at OKW. I actually thought SSR had very nice furnishings etc, and was well appointed. I also liked the small town look of the common areas and thought the themeing was well carried out. What I didn't like had more to do with what I like about OKW that was missing at SSR. I didn't feel the resort was as vacation home like as I expected it to be, but is more like a bunch of condos in a hotel. I still felt like I was walking to a parking lot instead of parking outside my door like I do at OKW. I disliked the door arrangement, but that is what I dislike about all the non-OKW DVC units.

[Mrs Potato Head]

I actually was adamant when we approached our "guide" about buying that I only wanted BWV in February. Long story, bad info, but in the end, we bought SSR. We were able to get the F&F discount, and the extra 12 years.

I thought I couldn't get excitesome d about staying anywhere BUT the BWV's. I had stayed there before, it's an exciting place to be, and lots going on all the time.

Well, since buying our SSR, I have come to realize that the BWV's might have ssome different things to offer that the SSR doesn't, but the SSR also has things that are very attractive to my family. My boys are teenagers now, and although we love the parks, they are also looking for other ways to enjoy Disney. The DD access will give them that, plus some freedoms I wouldn't have been as comfortable with otherwise. Plus, the more quiet atmosphere will more relaxing when we aren't at the parks, and for those of us that are ADD about Disney, it's probably a very good thing to have a little distance so we can sleep in between parks! And then there is the golf course.

My DH loves golf. We can go to SSR and he can play a couple rounds of golf while I putter through the parks slowly, or play in the shops. This way we both get to do things we LOVE.

And the bed at the SSR was the most comfortable bed I've ever seen.

So I have changed my mind BEFORE I even get there to stay for our first trip home! I can't wait.

And we are adding on points - at the SSR. We'll get the new AP promo, and we'll have even more points to do our three short trips to WDW each year! :banana: :banana: :banana:

A win-win situation for us!

[las3888]

I'm trying to keep an open mind on SSR. On recent visits to the resort we were not impressed. However, we felt that way (sort of) about OKW until we stayed there. Now we think it's great!

[crisi]

My question is "why would I stay at a resort that doesn't appeal to me?" I don't see SSR ever having the opportunity to change my mind.

That doesn't mean it isn't a great resort for someone else. But it doesn't appeal to me. I try not to waste my time or money on things I don't find appealing when I have so much I want to do that IS appealing. Perhaps I'm missing something I'd really love, but I'm not regretting what I don't know.

[boatboatboat]

crisi unless you book every dvc trip the next 30 years, 210+ days in advance, you WILL be staying at SSR. The numbers dictate this........

sorry.....

[Daitcher]

This is a good thread and a little different than the other stuff. I am of the belief that you cannot tell how you like a resort until you stay there. Regardless of knowing your vacation habits and styles, you still must stay to KNOW.

I recently stayed at OKW resort. I knew going in that it "wasn't my style". Our trip entailed 4 days at BCV, we then flew to Texas for 4 days, and then back to OKW for 2 before we flew home. I chose the 2 days at OKW, just t give it a try. I didn't think we would want to be there any longer than that. BOY WAS I WRONG! The resort just jumped up and grabbed me. I fell in love with the larger rooms, huge decks, tropical landscape and the friendly people working the resort. In this case my percieved notion of the resort would have been wrong.

SSR, of which I am an owner, was a different story. My guide had billed it as the best DVC Resort to date and that DVC had upped the ante so to speak. I went in expecting to love it. BOY WAS I WRONG. It just didn't do anything for us and everything about our stay seemed like a big hassle. Lots of concrete and parking lots is how my wife summed it up. Theme is a big part of why we like DVC and this resort has none IMO. I've stated time and again the specifics of what I don't like there so I won't go there.

Only time will tell how this plays out. I have a sick feeling in my stomach about this one.


DAVE

[SaratogaShan]

Daitcher,
Have you vacationed at SSR yet or did you just take the tour?

ETA: Dave, are you from Saratoga springs or is that B3 I am thinking of? I can understand the perception of a "lack of theming" if you are from the area.

[Daitcher]

Daitcher,
Have you vacationed at SSR yet or did you just take the tour?



Yes, I did stay there in October of 2003 I believe. It had opened in May of 2003 or was it 2004? Anyway it was that fall after it opened. We had a room on the 3rd floor in the Congress Park Section overlooking the quiet pool and DTD, great view. It was "my first trip home" as a member.


DAVE

[Tinky]

Dave, I'll ask again... Have you talked with your guide about your issues with your purchase? Or anyone at DVC?
Just curious to know if you have exhausted all avenues to discuss your displeasure.

[Daitcher]

Daitcher,
Have you vacationed at SSR yet or did you just take the tour?

ETA: Dave, are you from Saratoga springs or is that B3 I am thinking of? I can understand the perception of a "lack of theming" if you are from the area.



Yes, I am from Saratoga Springs, NY. Great small town, great summer place, but worthy of a DVC theme??????? :confused3


DAVE

[Chris and Pooh]

Yes, I did stay there in October of 2003 I believe. It had opened in May of 2003 or was it 2004? Anyway it was that fall after it opened. We had a room on the 3rd floor in the Congress Park Section overlooking the quiet pool and DTD, great view. It was "my first trip home" as a member.


DAVE

Hi just for info, resort opened in May 2004 you would have stayed there Oct 2004 about the same time as us also on 3rd floor but with partial view of lake and DTD.
We personally found it wonderful but could not compare as it was our first DVC resort

[sagwanamu]

I want to ask people this question:

If SSR is where BWV is, would you love SSR? And if BWV is where SSR is, would you still praise so high about BWV?

[boatboatboat]

I want to ask people this question:

If SSR is where BWV is, would you love SSR? And if BWV is where SSR is, would you still praise so high about BWV?


good question......

I will say having SSR within 10 min (walking) of epcot, and a 15 min boat ride to MGM, would sure help. I can get what DD has to offer in any city.

Also put 10 places to eat within 8 min (walking) of SSR and that would help too.

Throw in the firworks everynight, and the boardwalk.......

Yes SSR would be "ok" if it was 1/4 it's size, and was on the boardwalk.

But what's the point...........

It isn't.

[Daitcher]

Dave, I'll ask again... Have you talked with your guide about your issues with your purchase? Or anyone at DVC?
Just curious to know if you have exhausted all avenues to discuss your displeasure.


Sorry if you've asked this before. Talking with my guide isn't an option, I fear I would choke the guy through the phone if I did. :furious: What gripe can I call DVC with? It would all be heresay. My guide didn't give me the hard sell, so I can't go that route. Also I bought in before the SSR plans were expanded. That is the real problem here. Forget all else for a second. How is it fair to buy into a resort at one size only to have it switched to almost double what you bought into? Also is it fair to have a program where most of the resorts are on the small side and then add an enormous resort in less than ideal location with less than ideal features? This goofyguy on another thread (I'm not name calling, that's his screen name) made me see the light here. For now I can be considered a happy DVC owner. I do not regret my purchase at all. I've been able to spread my drunken self around to many of the DVC Resorts. Heck I'm hitting BCV, BWV, VB, OKW, VWL this year alone. 7 months is still working for me. It is when SSR is sold out that I fear. DVC had a responsibility here to keep SSR a similiar size to the other DVC Resorts. By going over board they have done us all a disservice. Plan ahead or SSR will be your only option.


DAVE

[boatboatboat]

lord Dave how many pts you got?

[Daitcher]

lord Dave how many pts you got?



Really not that many, 350 SSR points. We take advantage of the Sun. -Thursday points. Also we usually book one bedrooms, sometimes 2 bedrooms. We are also in a constant state of borrowing. This small point allotment has worked well for us because we travel other places as well. Next year I'll rent points because right now I only have 68 2007 points left. We are moving in the fall so I won't need any then but next year I'll bank those 68 and rent. 2008 I'll be caught up. We have 5 days in a 2 bedroom at VB followed by 3 days in a 2 bedroom at VWL coming up in May ( 7th-15th) We've already stayed at BCV in a studio for 2 days on cash, 4 days in BCV 1 bedroom on points and 2 days at OKW on points. Ohyeah the BWV, actually that isn't my stay, I booked 5 days coming up for my brother as a Christams gift. It is an all expenses paid thing. I did airfare, rental car, BWV studio, 3 day MYW PH tickets for him and his girlfriend, and $500 spending money.

I'm considering a 450+ add on at VB in the fall to have the 11 month boking on those Beach Cottages there. They are the best thing going at any DVC Resort. We had one for a week this past October, I'm sold on these.

DAVE

[KLEONARD]

Ohyeah the BWV, actually that isn't my stay, I booked 5 days coming up for my brother as a Christams gift. It is an all expenses paid thing. I did airfare, rental car, BWV studio, 3 day MYW PH tickets for him and his girlfriend, and $500 spending money.


DAVE


DAVE[/QUOTE]
Dave, no good deed goes unpunished. And that is a VERY GOOD deed. Hope your brother has a nice trip.

[boatboatboat]

Dave, no good deed goes unpunished. And that is a VERY GOOD deed. Hope your brother has a nice trip.


I know I will.

Dave is the best.

I don't care what dad says........

[SaratogaShan]

Dave, no good deed goes unpunished. And that is a VERY GOOD deed. Hope your brother has a nice trip.


I know I will.

Dave is the best.

I don't care what dad says........


WELLLLL..........THAT explains alot! :rotfl2:

[Paticake]

We do own at SSR. Our first stay was there in Nov.2004. Stayed in Congress Park area(2bdrm), we really enjoyed it. We never got over to the main area though, which was fine. My only thought at the time was that the bus rides to the parks took a little longer. We stayed at BWV (studio)(sv) waitlist came through, in Apr.2005. Really liked it. In Nov.2005 we stayed 1 night at SSR(Springs area)(2 bdrm)and then switched to BWV.(2 bdrm) I was shocked when I checked into BWV and told my husband I liked SSR more. I do love BWV location though! We stayed at VWL in a studio in Jan. Enjoyed that too. Some friends joined us for 1 night and we put them at OKW and went over to check that out. Very nice! I wanted to see a (2 bdrm) for future reference but none were available at that time. WE are going back to SSR in Nov. and we are really looking forward to it. I guess that I will be happy wherever I stay at WDW!! We will be trying OKW in Jan.2007 and hopefully VB in Oct. 2007. (PS) my brother and his family loooved SSR. They are joining us again in Nov. With young children they enjoyed walking over to DTD in the evenings. Our son and his wife bought at SSR in Nov. and we really look forward to a grand villa one day! Sorry so long and rambling!

[Simba's Mom]

I can't say that staying at SSR changed my opinion of the resort, because prior to staying there, I had no opinion. Although I'd seen some pictures and wasn't wowed, I reserved an opinion until I stayed there. I was not impressed. We had a really nice view of PI and the boats to DTD (we were the closest building to the walkway to DTD but I can't remember what that area's called). However, it was a long hike to the main building for food, and unlike at OKW, I felt like we were trouping through parking lots, past the tennis courts-it just wasn't the pretty stroll I hoped for. Also, I didn't like Artist Palette. The theming, and especially those overhead lamps (who bought those?) just felt very cold to us, as well as the fact that although there were very few people there when we were, there were lots of dirty tables. Although I didn't strongly dislike SSR, I can honestly say it would be my last choice of DVC resorts.

[shantay1008]

Here's the thing. We bought at SSR and expected to like it, and then we stayed there and we did like it. It is in our best interest to have a blast at SSR since we own there, and we managed to do just that.

I think we have some very different perspectives at play on these threads. We have people like me who bought at SSR with eyes wide open and think it's just great and wouldn't have (I hope) bought there if we didn't like it. We've already made ourselves at home there and have our list of things we can't wait to do when we go back.

But then there's another group who bought at other DVC resorts and are afraid they're going to be forced to stay at SSR, a resort they don't like very much.

I feel for you, but I don't know what you really hope to accomplish here. You're not going to convince those of us who bought SSR because we like it not to like it. Pointing out things you don't like won't really help your cause...and will just make you seem like a sort of buzz-killer.

So it seems to me that you need to work with DVC management to figure out what to do if you find yourself "stuck" in a resort you don't like. I'm not saying there's not room for improvement at any of the resorts, and conversations to that effect can be really interesting and productive, but I just don't think the current approach is very effective.

Shannon

[crisi]

crisi unless you book every dvc trip the next 30 years, 210+ days in advance, you WILL be staying at SSR. The numbers dictate this........

sorry.....

I book all my vacations eleven months out. I don't see that as changing, I've always known a year or more in advance when I'm going to take a trip. If that weren't the case, I'd sell my timeshare since I don't think timeshares are a good choice for non-planners.

I agree that if I wait, I'll end up booking my non-home resort - and SSR will be the only choice if I wait long enough. That isn't my intention, and honestly, I'll rent my points for the cost of dues (cheap points) and pay cash to stay at the Poly before I stay at SSR.

[jaysue]

This is an interesting thread

I decided to add on at SSR (DW wanted to add on at BCV which we already owned) - I convinced her that the extra 12 years would be good for the kids some day and it would be nice to own more towards the other Orlando attractions as opposed to be in the middle of WDW.

I bought there thinking ok it is a good price with good offers and the extra 12 years a kicker.

I was not expecting anything great - not a big DTD fan, and not a fan of the what on paper I saw of the design etc. DW was downright dismissive and a sceptical of the place.

And then sure enough we stayed there for the first time end of Dec 05 until Jan 2. Now DW really likes it - says it is her #2 fav DVC on WDW property after BCV - I like it as well (even though I would rank it after BCV, BWV and tie it with VWL overall). We liked the colours of the buildings and the decor of the rooms - the no parking lot views, the fountains, pathways, gardens and nice quiet pools and easy car access. We like High Rock Springs Pool as well and thought it is a great pool for the kids. We even like Artists Palette and that whole dining concept cross between counter service and restaurant feeling.

In short we went in thinking it would be just ok and went out thinking hey it is actually quite nice

We are thinking of adding there (and thinking of Fairfield Bonnet Creek as well)

Cheers
jaysue

[crisi]

I want to ask people this question:

If SSR is where BWV is, would you love SSR? And if BWV is where SSR is, would you still praise so high about BWV?

No. Location is one of my issues with SSR, but the bigger issue is that I HATE the decor. I think its realllllyyyyyy ruggggglllllyyyy! Its sort of the irrationalism that keeps people away from the BWVs due to the scary clown slide. You don't need to agree with my taste - its a matter of opinion. But I'd claw my eyes out if I needed to stay in that room for a week.

I also don't like the exterior hallways and think its important that the public areas of the resort be attached to the rooms - I'm not fond of the "modular" resorts or outside hallways.

If BWV had a different location, I wouldn't like it as much, and we'd own VWL. I'm not overly fond of the decor or theme of BWV (but I love the location). However, I love the decor and theme of VWL (and not overly fond of the location).

[jaysue]

I book all my vacations eleven months out. I don't see that as changing, I've always known a year or more in advance when I'm going to take a trip. If that weren't the case, I'd sell my timeshare since I don't think timeshares are a good choice for non-planners.

I agree that if I wait, I'll end up booking my non-home resort - and SSR will be the only choice if I wait long enough. That isn't my intention, and honestly, I'll rent my points for the cost of dues (cheap points) and pay cash to stay at the Poly before I stay at SSR.

Now that is a clear statement - DW feels the same way about OKW - she would rather stay at lots of places before OKW - says it feels too much like a condo - different strokes for different folks makes a market

Cheers
jaysue

:stir:

[lts862]

For background: I had expressed interest in DVC but knew that DH and I could not afford it for a while (we had gone through years of expensive fertility treatments and just completed our 2nd international adoption) so the majority of our savings went for those things. We did not want to finance. I figured that we would take trips to Disney every other year or so and seemed content with that.

Our ownership/membership at SSR was actually a gift from my father. We were on a trip to WDW and my dad had been inquiring about DVC at the kiosks in the parks and at GF where we were staying, after I mentioned to him that I thought it was a really great program. He made an appointment to tour and asked me to come along.

We toured for SSR while at the Boardwalk. I thought that SSR was nice, I didn't fall in love with it but thought that it was nice. We had a no pressure tour and were being sold on the 12 extra years. The other resorts were mentioned as other options on site but that SSR would be our home. My Dad decided to purchase points that day as a gift for his new and very much wanted grandchildren (his only 2, by the way).

He was so happy to purchase this gift and had been to Saratoga, NY a few times and really liked it so he was especially thrilled that it was modeled after the town in NY. He came home and bought more points a few months later! My family was grateful for the generous gift.

I had read some negative things on these boards and was nervous about our first trip home. We had used our initial points for a quick getaway to the Poly. (I know, but when you're a newbie, and SSR was not yet open...). We took our first trip and were very impressed with the grounds and accomodations. (I am a hotel snob so I was worried but very pleased with the decor, furniture, etc.). Each trip, as the resort has grown, has pleased us more and more.

Maybe someday we will stay at one of the other resorts, but for now are very pleased and proud to stay at our home. I liked the resort when it was purchased but LOVED it when we stayed there.

I'd like to see the Turf Club become a nice sitdown restaurant and would enjoy poolside dining for those days when we are having a pool day. We do like AP, though.

So that is our story. I guess my family changed our opinion from like to love of SSR.

[Sammie]

Our first trip was the summer it opened. We were impressed then and are still impressed after other visits and have one booked again for the summer.

It is everything our family wants in a vacation resort. :thumbsup2

[Jen D]

Also, I didn't like Artist Palette. The theming, and especially those overhead lamps (who bought those?)

:rotfl: I love the lighting fixtures at Artists Palette! I guess it is all a matter of taste!

[crisi]

:rotfl: I love the lighting fixtures at Artists Palette! I guess it is all a matter of taste!

I love those too. In fact, I think the public areas of the resort are beautiful, and I think the exterior is nice and will be gorgeous when the landscaping comes in. Had they carried the "arts and crafts" theme into the rooms, I would be all over the resort - instead of the insipid "1970s living room" theme.

It may be that I was so excited over the exterior pictures, and then the public area drawings that I'm so disappointed in the room decor.

[La2kw]

We had no desire to ever stay at SSR, let alone buy points there. I couldn't understand why anyone would ever want to buy points there. For us, OKW was always our favorite resort to stay at and the other DVC's while nice, just didn't compare. We were forced to stay there last summer and were surprised at how much we loved the resort. It's different than OKW, yet similar to it as well. We absolutely loved being within walking distance to DD where we could easily catch any resort bus to resort hop, or just have dinner or go shopping. We loved being within walking distance to Ghiradelli's and Disneyquest. With teens, that is a definite plus. We thought the furnishings were the nicest out of all the DVC resorts. The pool was great, and having Artist Pallette was great as well. We ended up loving that resort so much, we added on for the first time since buying OKW many years ago.

[La2kw]

Here's the thing. We bought at SSR and expected to like it, and then we stayed there and we did like it. It is in our best interest to have a blast at SSR since we own there, and we managed to do just that.

I think we have some very different perspectives at play on these threads. We have people like me who bought at SSR with eyes wide open and think it's just great and wouldn't have (I hope) bought there if we didn't like it. We've already made ourselves at home there and have our list of things we can't wait to do when we go back.

But then there's another group who bought at other DVC resorts and are afraid they're going to be forced to stay at SSR, a resort they don't like very much.

I feel for you, but I don't know what you really hope to accomplish here. You're not going to convince those of us who bought SSR because we like it not to like it. Pointing out things you don't like won't really help your cause...and will just make you seem like a sort of buzz-killer.

So it seems to me that you need to work with DVC management to figure out what to do if you find yourself "stuck" in a resort you don't like. I'm not saying there's not room for improvement at any of the resorts, and conversations to that effect can be really interesting and productive, but I just don't think the current approach is very effective.

Shannon

Very good points. I don't understand why someone who hates a resort so much wouldn't just sell their points and buy resale somewhere they think is better. I sure wouldn't hang onto something I hated. Of course if they did that, then they probably wouldn't have anything to talk about and would not get the attention they seem to crave. :rolleyes2

[TomD]

We bought at SSR. We will be staying there Memorial Day Weekend. My kids like DTD alot. It is one of the 1st things we do on the day we arrive.

I will post my feelings on SSR when we return. I won't allow someone elses opinion to cloud my judgement.

[conciergekelly]

Yes, I changed my mind.

When I made the appointment to see DVC they were selling BCV but by the time I got down there they were only selling SSR. BCV had sold out that week. ( I didn't know about resale or DVC inventory). I had my heart set on an Epoct resort. I figured that Disney does everything so well I am sure I would like it well enough. I have since tried all of the onsite DVC resorts. While I love them all and have no problem with any of them, I feel that SSR suits my teen/ preteen family the best. We just love it there. I was surprise because I really thought an Ecot resort was where we would be happiest. Nope. Our family is going to SSR for the second time this year (and the fourth time since we've joined) in July, by choice, not because that is all that was left. :woohoo:

[SusanWasHere]

Very good points. I don't understand why someone who hates a resort so much wouldn't just sell their points and buy resale somewhere they think is better. I sure wouldn't hang onto something I hated. Of course if they did that, then they probably wouldn't have anything to talk about and would not get the attention they seem to crave. :rolleyes2

couldn't agree with you more :Pinkbounc

[conciergekelly]

Very good points. I don't understand why someone who hates a resort so much wouldn't just sell their points and buy resale somewhere they think is better. I sure wouldn't hang onto something I hated. Of course if they did that, then they probably wouldn't have anything to talk about and would not get the attention they seem to crave. :rolleyes2


I wish they would sell and put us all out of their misery. :rotfl2:

....just joking!

[fishermouse]

DVC had a responsibility here to keep SSR a similiar size to the other DVC Resorts. By going over board they have done us all a disservice. Plan ahead or SSR will be your only option.


DAVE

WHY? :confused3 Their first responsibility is to make money for their shareholders.,, It is the responsibility of the purchaser to read thier contract and do a little research before signing. I bought the first week SSR went on sale and new about the possibility of the third phase.
To answer the original post I guess I changed my mind about SSR it's even better than I thought. I had intended to stay at the other resorts more, but it's hard to go any where else.

[BitsnBearsMom]

We own at SSR and haven't even had our 'first trip home' yet but thought the resort was beautiful when we went for our tour and can't wait to experience it (along with OKW and BWV this trip - time to stay in one place after we've experienced them all!!)..... Have been reading all the posts here trying to get info on all the resorts and perhaps I'm too simple but really how bad can any Disney resort be when we are fortunate enough to BE at DISNEY! I see so many families that I know will never get the chance to experience Disney and count myself and my children lucky that we will have that magical vacation for the next 40-something years!!

I won't let opinions cloud my judgement and will be happy to let you know what I think when we return in October - can't see me complaining about anything though b/c we will BE in DISNEY.

[Galahad]

Didn't really have an opinion before we stayed there. After we stayed there we were definitely disappointed. Just not a good addition to DVC, IMO.

[Lawrence Cooper]

But then there's another group who bought at other DVC resorts and are afraid they're going to be forced to stay at SSR, a resort they don't like very much.

I feel for you, but I don't know what you really hope to accomplish here. You're not going to convince those of us who bought SSR because we like it not to like it. Pointing out things you don't like won't really help your cause...and will just make you seem like a sort of buzz-killer.

Shannon

I am amazed by all the "SSR-haters" on this board sometimes. Do they not realize that by telling people on the boards all the things they don't like about SSR, they are only causing those people to not want to go to SSR but rather to want to stay at their chosen resort? For goodness sakes...if you don't want people staying at the Blessed Heart of BWV or BCV, be quiet already and let those of us who are deluded enough to actually like SSR stay there!

[Disney Doll]

I think SSR is a lovely resort.

[Rozzie]

I love those too. In fact, I think the public areas of the resort are beautiful, and I think the exterior is nice and will be gorgeous when the landscaping comes in. Had they carried the "arts and crafts" theme into the rooms, I would be all over the resort - instead of the insipid "1970s living room" theme.

It may be that I was so excited over the exterior pictures, and then the public area drawings that I'm so disappointed in the room decor.

LOL crisi! Don't come over to my house, as my entire home is decorated in the same style of the room decor of SSR. DH and I about fell out when we first walked into the model, even the furniture is similar and bedspreads. Not identical, but definatley a close relative! We just fell over ourselves laughing at their great taste!! :thumbsup2

[gppnj]

LOL crisi! Don't come over to my house, as my entire home is decorated in the same style of the room decor of SSR. DH and I about fell out when we first walked into the model, even the furniture is similar and bedspreads. Not identical, but definatley a close relative! We just fell over ourselves laughing at their great taste!! :thumbsup2

My decor is as close to that of the Grand Californian that I can afford.

[Bichon Barb]

I don't get it. :confused3

This is considered tacky:

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/ss116.jpg

But this is isn't? (I think if you stare at this couch long enough, you may actually develop double vision! :teeth: )

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/bwstudio26.jpg

This is an interesting look:

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/bcv61.jpg

Ya know, I think I actually had this couch in my first apartment. ;)

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/okw17.jpg

[Rozzie]

LMAO Bichon Barb!!!!!!! :lmao:

I have wondered the same thing myself! Where are people coming from!!!??

[jaysue]

I don't get it. :confused3

This is considered tacky:

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/ss116.jpg

But this is isn't? (I think if you stare at this couch long enough, you may actually develop double vision! :teeth: )

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/bwstudio26.jpg

This is an interesting look:

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/bcv61.jpg

Ya know, I think I actually had this couch in my first apartment. ;)

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/okw17.jpg


:rotfl2: :rotfl: :lmao:

[jaysue]

I am amazed by all the "SSR-haters" on this board sometimes. Do they not realize that by telling people on the boards all the things they don't like about SSR, they are only causing those people to not want to go to SSR but rather to want to stay at their chosen resort? For goodness sakes...if you don't want people staying at the Blessed Heart of BWV or BCV, be quiet already and let those of us who are deluded enough to actually like SSR stay there!

I like SSR therefore I am deluded - well if that is deluded I am deluded with you too!

:goodvibes :cheer2: :woohoo:

Cheers
jaysue

:yay: :yay: :yay: :yay:

[SaratogaShan]

Well,

You can add me to the list of delusional DIS'ers! :)

The responses so far seem to indicate that most folks who have stayed there have come away with a favorable opinion. Either better than expected or at least met expectations. Seems to be just a few so far who hated it after actually staying there. Maybe you have to spend a little time at the resort to actually "get" the experience the designers were going for.

I am willing to bet that there are not too many folks who have formulated negative opinions of SSR who have actually stayed there yet (because of course, if they think they are gonna hate it they will only stay when nothing else is available)

It will be interesting to hear from more folks in this category later on. Keep posting!

Thanks,
Shan :sunny:

[sajetto]

Nice post Barb! You've got a really good point there. I think all the couches are hideous in comparison to SSR

[granmanh603]

Well stayed there in Oct 04 and was just there since my daughter booked late and that was the only place she could get,(we had to go over and go to the pool there to watch the grandkids) It is bigger now(only Congress Park opened in Oct 04) and I still don't like it....see no improvements to original.....hated Artist Pallete and food choices when at pool only choice of where to get food. Sooo big and ride on bus forever to get anywhere and service was slow. At DTD you also seem to wait forever for a bus to SSR....2 buses to BWV passed while waiting. Just don't like and have added on there too. Maybe the planting have to grow but it is sooo naked ,stark looking. I did like the room decor but the rooms seemed the smallest of all resorts.

[lts862]

I don't get it. :confused3

This is considered tacky:

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/ss116.jpg

But this is isn't? (I think if you stare at this couch long enough, you may actually develop double vision! :teeth: )

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/bwstudio26.jpg

This is an interesting look:

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/bcv61.jpg

Ya know, I think I actually had this couch in my first apartment. ;)

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/okw17.jpg

Barb,
I could not agree more!! That patchwork is just horrible...and the stripes could induce a seizure!! BLECH!! :eek:

[boatboatboat]

Well it's become obvious SSR is by far the best resort.

Location, looks, fast elavators, what more do you need?

[Sammie]

Well it's become obvious SSR is by far the best resort.

Location, looks, fast elavators, what more do you need?

Actually others and myself included have gone to great lengths to explain in detail what we like about SSR, which has repeatedly been ignored and made fun of.

Which says more about you and less about the short comings perceived by you of SSR.

This continous putting down of SSR and those that have said what they like about it, is really getting old.

If your only purpose on this forum is to disparage the remarks of others, can you please at least be an equal opportunity disparager.

[boatboatboat]

sam

ssr reservations will NEVER reflect the size.

you know that, i know that, everyone including DVC knows that.


That isn't bashing, it is simply stating the obvious.

take 100 potential customers, show them all 5 WDW resorts, and offer to sell them pts for 100 dollars each, for a 50 year contract, and ssr would not sell as well as the others.

to dispute that is foolish.

there is a reason dvc didn't build in that location sooner.

now with that being said, if i were buying dvc today, and wanted a wdw resort (not hh or vero), I would look long and hard at ssr. 12 years means alot, and I would never discount the value of that.

But, if everything was equal, ssr would be the slowest selling of the 5 wdw dvc's if they were brand new and put on the mkt today.

[fishermouse]

I had read some negative things on these boards and was nervous about our first trip home. We had used our initial points for a quick getaway to the Poly. (I know, but when you're a newbie, and SSR was not yet open...). .

We were told we could not use our points until May when SSR opened, We were able to book ahead of time but had to be for a date after the opening. Nothing like going into a brand new resort. OP was right about the landscaping, I think it will be much nicer when a little mature.

[conciergekelly]

Bichon Barb... :lmao:

[Tinky]

sam

ssr reservations will NEVER reflect the size.

you know that, i know that, everyone including DVC knows that.


That isn't bashing, it is simply stating the obvious.

take 100 potential customers, show them all 5 WDW resorts, and offer to sell them pts for 100 dollars each, for a 50 year contract, and ssr would not sell as well as the others.

to dispute that is foolish.

there is a reason dvc didn't build in that location sooner.

now with that being said, if i were buying dvc today, and wanted a wdw resort (not hh or vero), I would look long and hard at ssr. 12 years means alot, and I would never discount the value of that.

But, if everything was equal, ssr would be the slowest selling of the 5 wdw dvc's if they were brand new and put on the mkt today.


What data/fact do you base this on? A DIS poll? A "tabulation" of reponses from different threads, your own opinion?
Or does this stuff come to you in a vision? :rolleyes1

[lts862]

sam

ssr reservations will NEVER reflect the size.

you know that, i know that, everyone including DVC knows that.


That isn't bashing, it is simply stating the obvious.

take 100 potential customers, show them all 5 WDW resorts, and offer to sell them pts for 100 dollars each, for a 50 year contract, and ssr would not sell as well as the others.

to dispute that is foolish.

there is a reason dvc didn't build in that location sooner.

now with that being said, if i were buying dvc today, and wanted a wdw resort (not hh or vero), I would look long and hard at ssr. 12 years means alot, and I would never discount the value of that.

But, if everything was equal, ssr would be the slowest selling of the 5 wdw dvc's if they were brand new and put on the mkt today.

So what do you want us to do? I mean really, what are you accomplishing by writing the same things over and over and over. It certainly won't change anything if THAT is what you are trying to do! Don't tell us...tell DVC!

[Sammie]

sam

ssr reservations will NEVER reflect the size.

you know that, i know that, everyone including DVC knows that.


That isn't bashing, it is simply stating the obvious.

take 100 potential customers, show them all 5 WDW resorts, and offer to sell them pts for 100 dollars each, for a 50 year contract, and ssr would not sell as well as the others.

to dispute that is foolish.

there is a reason dvc didn't build in that location sooner.

now with that being said, if i were buying dvc today, and wanted a wdw resort (not hh or vero), I would look long and hard at ssr. 12 years means alot, and I would never discount the value of that.

But, if everything was equal, ssr would be the slowest selling of the 5 wdw dvc's if they were brand new and put on the mkt today.

That might be true (no way to prove it though); but that is also like saying certain cars sell better than other brands. However I would hate for the car industry to only offer me the option of the best seller.

I can respect your opinion that SSR might not sell as quickly as the others; but that does not mean it's an inferior product.

As long as there is a market for what SSR offers I don't see why you should care. I find it insulting to think that myself and others can not make up their minds for themselves without at times being made to seem like we don't have a brain.

I like SSR, nothing you can present will change that and at this point not sure why you care. I think at this point many of us are just tried of you beating the SSR horse to death over and over and over.

Surely you can find something else to discuss. :sad2:

[Bichon Barb]

Nice post Barb! You've got a really good point there. I think all the couches are hideous in comparison to SSR


If the powers that be at DVC are reading this thread and feel that my post is helping SSR sales, I would be willing to compare bedspreads for a payment of a 150 point contract. :lmao:

[sajetto]

What data/fact do you base this on? A DIS poll? A "tabulation" of reponses from different threads, your own opinion?
Or does this stuff come to you in a vision? :rolleyes1



Its funny you ask this Tinky.
B3 is always asking for so called "research"
So come on B3 show us the research on this. What are the independent and dependent variables. How was it researched? Was it casual comparitive, quasi-experimental, a comparison of 2 baselines? I'd love to know where you get this. Also, who researched it and how? How do you back up its vailidity and reliablity. Were the control and experimental groups informed of this study?

[boatboatboat]

Sam when dvc builds a resort 4 times the size of ssr, and that resort is in a location that is MUCH WORSE then SSR, your days of booking less then 210 days out will be over.

I look forward to your comments on that day.

[Sammie]

If the powers that be at DVC are reading this thread and feel that my post is helping SSR sales, I would be willing to compare bedspreads for a payment of a 150 point contract. :lmao:

You do have to wonder at times are they color blind. Thanks for posting all of them at the same time, I vote for the SSR one over the others. Not great but certainly among the other candidates, a winner!

[lts862]

That might be true (no way to prove it though); but that is also like saying certain cars sell better than other brands. However I would hate for the car industry to only offer me the option of the best seller.

I can respect your opinion that SSR might not sell as quickly as the others; but that does not mean it's an inferior product.

As long as there is a market for what SSR offers I don't see why you should care. I find it insulting to think that myself and others can not make up their minds for themselves without at times being made to seem like we don't have a brain.

I like SSR, nothing you can present will change that and at this point not sure why you care. I think at this point many of us are just tried of you beating the SSR horse to death over and over and over.

Surely you can find something else to discuss. :sad2:

Excellent post, Sammie!!! :thumbsup2

[boatboatboat]

So come on B3 show us the research on this

dvc built here after bcv/bwv/vwl for a reason.

OKW was a "test" to see if the dvc concept would sell. Once that test showed it would DVC built in the prime areas. What was left was a failed disney intitute loaction.

those are simply the facts.......

don't kill the messenger.

[Sammie]

your days of booking less then 210 days out will be over.

I don't have a problem booking at 210 days out. I have to sign up for my vacation a year in advance anyway and it's not flexible after that.

I look forward to your comments on that day

Hopefully when that times come I won't have time to be on the forums to discuss it and will have a real job that will occupy my time.

I don't have a problem with SSR's location and would not mind a resort anywhere on Disney property. We truly are not into being at one certain location. We can drive and do.

Like I said it's just that this has been beat to death, and needs to be put to rest. If you have a gripe take it up with DVC, please.

[sajetto]

So come on B3 show us the research on this

dvc built here after bcv/bwv/vwl for a reason.

OKW was a "test" to see if the dvc concept would sell. Once that test showed it would DVC built in the prime areas. What was left was a failed disney intitute loaction.

those are simply the facts.......

don't kill the messenger.


So, you are in fact telling me you have no research.

You are consistiently asking for research yourself. What I feel compelled to ask you is "what do you really know about research?" The public often confuses surveys for this. BTW you are speaking to a person who actually teaches graduate level courses on educational and experimental research so there is no double talking on this issue.

[crisi]

BCV does win the ugly couch contest. Hands down - with bonus points. I'm not planning on staying there either - because I can't stand that couch!

Different strokes - glad lots of people like the decor of SSR - won't hire you as my decorator, but you won't be hiring me as yours.

(BWVs, my dear home, wins the ugly shower curtain award - but only have to see it when you are in the bathroom with a shower curtain).

I like the couch at HHI - much more to my taste.

I'm fond of the VWL decor - but I know a lot of people find it too dark.

Everyone has priorities in there resorts. Some like having room service. I don't like certain decorating styles.

[boatboatboat]

so Sam what are your thoughts on the mugs? do you take your to other resorts?

ohhhhhhh have you used ME yet? did it work?

can you save money on the dining plan? will they allow my wife and I to split a meal?

what about AP's, are those a good deal, we plan on spending 30 days in the park. Would we be better off to buy 30 one day park hoppers?


how much do you think points should rent for?

[boatboatboat]

So, you are in fact telling me you have no research.

DVC Orlando is based upon WDW, i don't need "research" to detrmine which locations are best.

A simple look at room #'s vs pool size and room # vs on site places to dine, will show you all you need to know............

You are consistiently asking for research yourself.


show me more then 2 times where I have done that.

I'll wait.....

[sajetto]

Internet forums specifically, are notoriously poor indicators of what a total population believes.

__________________


show me a link of a study that shows this.


Studies are much more involved than you and many others realize them to be. If you can't prove it's reliablity and vailidity then you essentially have nothing. I've caused many of my students a great deal of distress trying to explain this to them when I get papers that say "This will be proven vailid by a signed document of understanding by both the control and treatment groups"

Your subjects telling you that they understand or they have knowledge means squat...show me the proof

[Tinky]

DVC Orlando is based upon WDW, i don't need "research" to detrmine which locations are best.

I was waiting for ... 'don't bother me with the facts" ;)

[boatboatboat]

sajetto that's one........

I'll wait for the others.

chop chop

[shantay1008]

B3 has often brought up the idea that we SSR people will finally get what he's on about when DVC builds a property in what we all consider to be a really bad spot and then we have to compete with the people who bought there to get rooms at our home, SSR.

There is a certain, knee-jerk "oh no" reaction to this, I suppose, but then if you stop and think about it, I don't know that it's something to get spun up about. For one thing, as we've seen here at least, a lot of SSR owners think the resort and the location are great.

So B3's analogy feels a little leaky already because he's assuming that SSR owners dislike SSR's location (again: we like SSR's location), and that future DVC owners will dislike the location of their new resort, too. Why not wait to confirm that the new DVC will have a terrible location before getting worked up about it and assuming that everyone will just hate it?

I guess the other thing is, are people really being "forced" to stay in resorts (any DVC resort) that they don't like on a regular basis? Is this an actual problem at this point? Just wondering....

And thank you to the poster who reminded us that we're lucky to be at Disney World at all. :)

Shannon

[Sammie]

so Sam what are your thoughts on the mugs? do you take your to other resorts?

Don't buy them, have a villa with kitchen, see no need to.

ohhhhhhh have you used ME yet? did it work?
Don't fly, don't use it.

can you save money on the dining plan? will they allow my wife and I to split a meal?

If you are used to eating that much food, it saves money. Sharing is fine.

what about AP's, are those a good deal, we plan on spending 30 days in the park. Would we be better off to buy 30 one day park hoppers?

Annual passes are a good investment for anyone spending more than 9 days in the parks.

how much do you think points should rent for

I don't rent.

Now it's obvious you can discuss other things other than the short comings of SSR, let's see if you can keep it up though.

Even though I have a feeling your questions were more about being sarcastic and less about wanting my opinions and totally off topic. ;)

[sajetto]

B3, you are double talking. "What do you know about research?"

Riddle me that. Unlike some who spend all day on these boards, I have a life. I am paid to know and understand research and to educate college educated individuals in the specifics of it so that they understand what is real and what is crap. I am not going to spend an hour going through all 490 of your posts that you've managed to generate in the very short time you've been here to find the # you're asking for. I've seen enough of your posts to know that you've asked for research more than once. Tell me B3 what do you know about it?

[boatboatboat]

shantay1008 if i ever change jobs and start selling timeshares, I will call on you.

have your check book ready.

[Sammie]

I guess the other thing is, are people really being "forced" to stay in resorts (any DVC resort) that they don't like on a regular basis? Is this an actual problem at this point? Just wondering....

I don't see it as a problem. We book all the DVC resorts at 7 months or less and don't have problems.

Certainly the person that wants to book a particular resort at certain times at short notice might have problems; but that can be said for many resort destinations.

As to the future I think all buyers should do their research and make sure they buy where they would be happy to stay all the time should that ever happen.

I think the unhappiness with some SSR owners is more about poor advance planning and sour grapes. I recommend selling and moving on.

As to nonSSR owners worrying about the "big picture" I would say they are simply at a point in their lives where they have too much time on their hands.

[boatboatboat]

B3, you are double talking. "What do you know about research?"

Riddle me that. Unlike some who spend all day on these boards, I have a life. I am paid to know and understand research and to educate college educated individuals in the specifics of it so that they understand what is real and what is crap. I am not going to spend an hour going through all 490 of your posts that you've managed to generate in the very short time you've been here to find the # you're asking for. I've seen enough of your posts to know that you've asked for research more than once. Tell me B3 what do you know about it?

I pray you are fishing with this post.........

If this is indeed a serious reply on your part, I am at a loss for words.

take care.............

[SaratogaShan]

boatboatboat has managed once again to take a thread completely off topic.....much to his satisfaction I'm sure. I would like to keep this thread alive and somewhat on topic because I really am interested in how opinions might change after actually staying at SSR.

Thanks for all the replies so far and just ignore "the boat", he's just a little "dinghey". LOL :rotfl2:

[cobbler]

If the powers that be at DVC are reading this thread and feel that my post is helping SSR sales, I would be willing to compare bedspreads for a payment of a 150 point contract. :lmao:

Please please put up a bedspread compairson!! I just about feel over with the couch one. It was good :lmao:

[boatboatboat]

boatboatboat has managed once again to take a thread completely off topic.....

once again?

much to his satisfaction I'm sure.

I must admit watching the masses scramble to build an anti boat army is entertaining

I would like to keep this thread alive and somewhat on topic

then why are you talking about me?

because I really am interested in how opinions might change after actually staying at SSR.


un huh

Thanks for all the replies so far and just ignore "the boat", he's just a little "dinghey".


did you feel better after you posted that?

[Bichon Barb]

Thanks for all the replies so far and just ignore "the boat", he's just a little "dinghey". LOL :rotfl2:


http://www.epictura.com/images/large_images/previews/image100/00130065.jpg

[shantay1008]

shantay1008 if i ever change jobs and start selling timeshares, I will call on you.

have your check book ready.
Now, now, don't get your undies in a bundle. I really am trying to get inside your argument and think about whether or not it's a valid concern. I'm not trying to make you wrong, I'm just trying to see if it's a logical argument. You're making some big assumptions, though, don't you think? 1) assuming DVC will pick a bad location for a future resort, 2) assuming people who buy at that future resort won't like it, and 3) assuming that people who bought now at SSR don't like it.

Having said all that, there is one resort where I honestly would not like to stay at all, and if I had to stay there every time I went to WDW, I would be bummed. It wouldn't ruin my life, for heaven's sake, but it would bug me enough that I would go to DVC management with my problem and see what they could do. I guess you'd say that my chances of having to stay at that smaller resort are less than your chances of having to stay at SSR. It seems a bit early yet to determine if people are being forced to stay anywhere, assuming they book within their four-month home resort window.

So if some day you really are forced to stay at SSR all the time, then I will feel sorry for you (just like you'd feel sorry for me if I was forced to spend every vacation at this other resort, which I won't name because I'm far too tactful ;)).

By the way, I always understand jokes, but the one you made (above) went over my head. Do you mean that since I bought SSR, I would buy anything? I wouldn't buy any old timeshare; I bought with Disney, and so far it's been awesome.

[bpmorley]

I personally like SSR. But I've only stayed in The Springs. Which is right by the main pool and store. The theming is what it is. Whether some people think Saratoga NY is worthy of a theme resort is another discussion. I will definitely stay there again.

[Bichon Barb]

Please please put up a bedspread compairson!! I just about feel over with the couch one. It was good :lmao:

Okay, okay. Twist my arm. ;)

SSR - Tasteful yet earthy. Nice mahogany headboard.

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/ss111.jpg

BCV - Not feelin' the purple morning glories with the gingham and the Christmas carpet.

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/bcv31.jpg

OKW - You know, I think the teal and pink 1980's look is actually due to come back in style.

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/okw16.jpg

BWV - Touche'. This has a kind of sweet look to it.

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/bwv48.jpg

[boatboatboat]

Now, now, don't get your undies in a bundle.

Ok

I really am trying to get inside your argument and think about whether or not it's a valid concern.


good

I'm not trying to make you wrong,


good idea, since you can't

I'm just trying to see if it's a logical argument.


It's simple. Build 1000 rooms spread amoung 5 resorts. Make 400 of the rooms in the worst loaction in relation to the parks, and it is obvious it will strain the system.

You're making some big assumptions, though, don't you think?


let's see


1) assuming DVC will pick a bad location for a future resort,


enjoy your 20 min bus ride to EVERY PARK. DVC built bwv/bcv/vwl prior to ssr for a reason. until WDW build a 5th park, dvc is simply out of land to build another large resort, that can by any objective mind be viewed as "on site". I have no doubt when SSR sells out we will see more dvc resorts built. Some will be "on-site" IE: walk, boat ride to a park, but they WILL BUILD another monster, and that monster may well make SSR look like a 3 min walk from the parks. location, location, location.

I would assume that SSR owners would be worried if DVC built a resort 4 times the size of SSR and that resort was 3 miles further away from the parks then SSR?


2) assuming people who buy at that future resort won't like it, and



sure they will like it, it's new, if disney, you are happy and on vacation and trying to show your family you love them and want to give them MORE disney moments. Yes it would sell

3) assuming that people who bought now at SSR don't like it.



see above.

Having said all that, there is one resort where I honestly would not like to stay at all, and if I had to stay there every time I went to WDW, I would be bummed.

me too

It wouldn't ruin my life,


It wouldn't ruin my life if i walked out into the driveway and threw 20k into a pile and burnt it. But I would sure look back on that day with anger


but it would bug me enough that I would go to DVC management with my problem and see what they could do.


they couldn't do anything, nor would they care. They already have my money.

I guess you'd say that my chances of having to stay at that smaller resort are less than your chances of having to stay at SSR.


EGG-ZACT-LEE.......... Chances are SSR ,for numerous reasons will remain the least difficult resort to book into for many many many years.



It seems a bit early yet to determine if people are being forced to stay anywhere, assuming they book within their four-month home resort window.

ahoy captain obvious......... at 11 mths SSR will have no effect on other owners. WE ALL KNOW THAT. Now get inside 210 days......... well read the board. Wait list all over the place, that simply weren't there 2 years ago, and SSR is only half sold. Gonna get worse.


So if some day you really are forced to stay at SSR all the time, then I will feel sorry for you (just like you'd feel sorry for me if I was forced to spend every vacation at this other resort, which I won't name because I'm far too tactful ).


I have no need to be tactful on a public message board.

The schances of an SSR owner booking 90 days out and having to stay else where are slim to non. Obviously there will be sparadic exceptions.


By the way, I always understand jokes,


cool

but the one you made (above) went over my head.


sorry

Do you mean that since I bought SSR, I would buy anything?

anything is not a fair statement. If my ONLY choice today were SSR, I would consider buying.


I wouldn't buy any old timeshare;


good. Would you buy an "ocean" resort 20 min by bus from the ocean?

I bought with Disney, and so far it's been awesome.


And it will continue to be for 48 more years

[shantay1008]

Well, B3, let's keep our fingers crossed that DVC will add a fantastic resort onto an existing hotel with a great location. Actually, they'd probably need to do a couple of those to balance out SSR's capacity, I suppose.

I hope you really don't feel like you've thrown away $20k. I mean, you could sell your points someday if DVC really didn't work out the way you'd hoped. You own at BWV, if I remember correctly, so you'd come out ahead, or at least even, wouldn't you? You'd be disappointed, but certainly wouldn't be out the money.

Saratoga Shan, I'm sorry! Back to your topic: I'll add that I was pleasantly surprised by how close SSR was to DTD. In the photos I'd seen, the resort looked like it was out in the middle of a field, but it was a very comfortable little walk or boat ride to DTD. I had thought we'd miss being close to EPCOT, but our kids have minds of their own now. They wanted to be at Magic Kingdom, Disney Quest, and Blizzard Beach, so being close to EPCOT ended up not even being a factor.

(Not to get off-topic again, but when we stayed at BCV, I was all excited to run over to France and get some pastries and a real mocha for breakfast, but the pavilions didn't open until 11am! I should have checked first, I suppose, but I was just so excited about the location. C'est la vie.)

[boatboatboat]

I hope you really don't feel like you've thrown away $20k.


I have gotten good value, and shall continue to. But I sincerly feel that what I own now, is not as good as it was, prior to a huge resort that is not close to any park, being added into the dvc family.

I had visions of being able to book into vero in jan. That will never happen for anyone anymore unless they own there or play the waitlest game and call every single day. What a pain.....

I had visions of going to HH every Easter or thanksgiving (we have done that the last 4 years), but those days are also over unless you own there (added HH points this week).

The game has changed for sure.......

I wish SSR would have been an over the top resort that put the other dvc's to shame. I wish SSR had the best location, the best pool, the most hot tubd per room, the best places to eat right at your finger tips. Heck if SSR had those things they could make it 5000k rooms and i wouldn't care. But it's size, location, and lack of pixie dust will strain the system.

watch and see.........

[DVC Sadie]

[B]Thanks for all the replies so far and just ignore "the boat", he's just a little "dinghey".


did you feel better after you posted that?


I felt a lot better, thanks for asking. :thumbsup2 :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

[boatboatboat]

sometimes it's the little things, that get us thru the day.

[DrTomorrow]

So come on B3 show us the research on this

dvc built here after bcv/bwv/vwl for a reason.

OKW was a "test" to see if the dvc concept would sell. Once that test showed it would DVC built in the prime areas. What was left was a failed disney intitute loaction.

those are simply the facts.......

don't kill the messenger.

Hmmmm. Not quite the appropriate use of the word "facts" - more like opinion.

Let's try an alternate train of thought:

OKW was a test - agreed. Then Disney/Eisner, fearing any risk, decided to build DVC as poor-relation add-ons grafted to existing resorts at minimal cost (no new restaurants needed, minor pool additions, no dedicated lobby building, no up-close parking, etc.). Then, with a much greater sense of confidence - and the prime location selected for the Disney Institute available - Disney went back to the original DVC plan and built a second dedicated on-site DVC resort of a size sufficient to meet the requests of many members, with it's own DVC-only feature pool, multiple leisure pools, Community Hall and dining places, leaving lots of room for expansion and improvement (a la Turf Club) - not to mention the close proximity to DTD, PI and WE, which not only will become more significant as DVC owners mature, but DTD/PI/WE seems to be the focus of the main redevelopment effort currently under way.

If I wanted to put my MrMeanie hat on, I could suggest that it is SSR owners who should feel bad for non-SSR/OKW owners. Paying higher dues & point costs for resorts that aren't even really dedicated DVC resorts - resorts that they might not even get to stay at, despite the fact that they are owners! Of course, I'd never put on that hat :rolleyes1 :rotfl2:

So I guess it's all in how you look at things - meaning, once again, that 3 Boats 3 is dealing with opinion, not fact. That's a good thing to remember whenever anyone on the internet claims to know "the truth".

IMHO - YMMV - Be well!

[TomD]

Has anyone changed their opinion of SSR?

not 2 pages of the SOS that is in every thread that is about SSR.

[boatboatboat]

Has anyone changed their opinion of SSR?


yes we have come to the conclusion it isn't HUGE, and is a short walk from all 4 parks, and it's reslae value will double in the next 10 years.

[skoi]

No comment on the actual topic because we haven't stayed at SSR, but we're looking forward to it- except our oldest dd who thinks they should actually have horse there (free to ride to DVC members of course).

On the pink and teal- it is coming back, along with pink and gray because the
'80s are back. Have you seen the gauchos in the stores? :scared1:

[CRSNDSNY]

yeah, I'm a day late and a dollar short on this topic, but it looks like they finally got the couch right with SSR. It only took 6 failures! LOL :lmao:

I don't get it. :confused3

This is considered tacky:

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/ss116.jpg

[Sarnia]

Has anyone changed their opinion of SSR?


yes we have come to the conclusion it isn't HUGE, and is a short walk from all 4 parks, and it's reslae value will double in the next 10 years.Sorry BBB, some of your comments i've found quite amusing, but it's got old now.

Be gone evil troll, back under your bridge, and stay there!

[DVC Sadie]

yeah, I'm a day late and a dollar short on this topic, but it looks like they finally got the couch right with SSR. It only took 6 failures! LOL :lmao:

Both my dh and I find SSR to be a wonderful resort. I was one who changed my mind after staying at SSR. The first time I stayed at the resort I was on a solo trip and found myself wanting a sit down restaurant and missed room service. My next trip was with my dh and we stayed in a 1 bedroom and believe it or not that changed my whole perspective. That visit was so enjoyable and when we found out that they were adding a sit down restaurant we were thrilled. :thumbsup2
We loved the room decor and the couch is so nice. :cool1: We find that we don't want all the hub bub and enjoy the peace and quiet of this wonderful resort.
When we stay at SSR we also add 4 or more days at a monorail resort so we have the ease of visiting MK and Epcot during that part of our trip plus that is when I order the room service. For us this is the best of both worlds. :thumbsup2

[boatboatboat]

so you left ssr for your park days?

[CRSNDSNY]

so you left ssr for your park days?
I think some people enjoy staying at more than one resort during a trip.

[fishermouse]

What data/fact do you base this on? A DIS poll? A "tabulation" of reponses from different threads, your own opinion?
Or does this stuff come to you in a vision? :rolleyes1

:rotfl2:

[fishermouse]

I was waiting for ... 'don't bother me with the facts" ;)
I've come around to B3's way of thinking, but I've come to different conclusions
FACT_ Since more people are buying into SSR than any other resort it must be the most popular.
FACT_ Being the most popular makes it the best!
FACT_Since I really like it that's even more proof that it's the bestest ever.
So glad I'm able to straighten all you guys out. :wave2:

[iankh]

Okay, okay. Twist my arm. ;)

SSR - Tasteful yet earthy. Nice mahogany headboard.

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/ss111.jpg

BCV - Not feelin' the purple morning glories with the gingham and the Christmas carpet.

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/bcv31.jpg

OKW - You know, I think the teal and pink 1980's look is actually due to come back in style.

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/okw16.jpg

BWV - Touche'. This has a kind of sweet look to it.

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/bwv48.jpg

Great posting!

Quite frankly, bedspreads are not the strong suit in any of the resorts. I think they were chosen by deranged decorators on LSD while trapped in a cotton candy factory.

[fishermouse]

I pray you are fishing with this post.........

If this is indeed a serious reply on your part, I am at a loss for words.

take care.............
NO WAY :lmao:

[boatboatboat]

I think some people enjoy staying at more than one resort during a trip.


I agree.

leaving ssr on your park days makes sense.

[Jen D]

Great posting!

Quite frankly, bedspreads are not the strong suit in any of the resorts. I think they were chosen by deranged decorators on LSD while trapped in a cotton candy factory.

Unfortunately since DVCs are designed for high use and occupancy, they have to find patterns that camoflauge inevitable wearing and staining that is going to happen with heavy use... hence the ugly couches, bedspreads.... and carpet! Let's not even go there!

[SaratogaShan]

I have said this before,

SSR makes more sense for us because we DO like to frequent the parks. We spend equal time at all four and we do non-disney parks (gasp!) every so often. Our kids are one and barely four, so we still use strollers. It is MUCH more convenient for us to have our van parked near our room. We load up in the mornings, take a quick drive to our park of choice (and it IS a quick drive to any of the parks, on site or off) and we don't have to worry about lugging strollers on and off the bus or the trams. We get there early enough to park near the gate.

I know some would say...why do you want to do this when you could stay at BWV for instance and walk to two parks? This would be great if they were the only two parks we visited. For the others, we would have to walk long distances to our vehicle (that parking lot is pretty far from the resort at BWV), or each adult would have to lug one child and one stroller apiece on and off the bus. SSR just makes sense for us. It is a stretch to say that it only works well for folks who DONT frequent the parks.

And just wanted to add that we expected great things prior to our first stay at SSR. It exceded our expectations, and I believe this resort will continue to grow into the community DVC intends for it to be.

Shan :sunny:

Just wanted to add that we love OKW as well for many of the same reasons, but the elevators at SSR make it much easier with the kids! We can just stroll them right into the room no matter which floor we are on!

[Mrs Potato Head]

If you aren't happy with something, I think you have a right to say it. But I don't understand the REPEATED saying it...like you are trying to push the issue into everyone's face every chance you get. OK, already. We get it. Some folks aren't happy with the way DVC has evolved. But some of us are happy, and all you are doing is pushing your sign in OUR faces - to what end? Most of the folks here have already bought and therefore, are already part of YOUR problem. Do you want all of US to go away?

Come on...why do you feel the need to continue to argue the same points with people? You are saying the same things over and over again. You aren't changing the way DVC works by arguing with folks here. Why don't you get a job at Disney...and become the chief person at DVC...then make all the changes you want, so YOU can be happy. All the DVC properties would be attached or within a short walk to at least one park, and everyone would get a water park for a pool too. Oh, and free candy and soda whenever you want it.

Just my .02 - I won't say it repeatedly. I promise.

[boatboatboat]

I can't respond, but your point is well taken.

enjoy your dvc.

[bpmorley]

If you aren't happy with something, I think you have a right to say it. But I don't understand the REPEATED saying it...like you are trying to push the issue into everyone's face every chance you get. OK, already. We get it. Some folks aren't happy with the way DVC has evolved. But some of us are happy, and all you are doing is pushing your sign in OUR faces - to what end? Most of the folks here have already bought and therefore, are already part of YOUR problem. Do you want all of US to go away?

Come on...why do you feel the need to continue to argue the same points with people? You are saying the same things over and over again. You aren't changing the way DVC works by arguing with folks here. Why don't you get a job at Disney...and become the chief person at DVC...then make all the changes you want, so YOU can be happy. All the DVC properties would be attached or within a short walk to at least one park, and everyone would get a water park for a pool too. Oh, and free candy and soda whenever you want it.

Just my .02 - I won't say it repeatedly. I promise.

Thank you.

[DVC Sadie]

so you left ssr for your park days?


While staying at the SSR we went to AK and MGM. On the days that we stay at the monorail resorts we visit MK and Epcot. This works for us.

[CRSNDSNY]

I agree.

leaving ssr on your park days makes sense.

Ummm...that's not what I said. :confused3

I think some people enjoy staying at more than one resort during a trip.

[iankh]

I don't see what all the fuss is over. I think that it just might be possible that we tend to have a skewed view here in our little microcosm of DIS.

I mean there are, what, about 22,600 SSR owners? Can all of them be miserable?

Last year, my boss at that time came back from a vacation in WDW and told me that he had bought at SSR. In fact, it rekindled my interest in perhaps looking at DVC again, since the last time I looked in about 1995 or so.

He had taken the tour of SSR and really liked the location and the resort. He likes to golf and thought it was perfect. He was also attracted to the extra 12 years (why, I don't know, he's older than me, and I know I'll be dead by the time my DVC contract expires).

I had asked him if he had looked at resale, and he had. He and his wife had wanted SSR. They perferred it to the other resorts.

He also doesn't hang out on DIS.

So, I find myself asking, of that 22,600 there must be a significant number that are jolly happy with their purchase.

I mean to be honest, I love DIS, but we (I include myself in that we) do tend to obsess a bit more about DVC than might be healthy.

I refuse to believe that given the number of members out there, they are all fretting over bookings, and invest quite so much energy in planning, a little more than perhaps it merits.

When all is said and done, there are 91,000+ registered DIS members, of that a much much smaller set who hang out on the DVC boards. Of that an even smaller subset who are vocal and post regularly. It just strikes me that perhaps what is said here might not represent the majority.

So, my point is, probably there are loads of happy SSR owners. And owners of other DVC resorts who would not mind staying at SSR, and infact welcome the opportunity.

[SaratogaShan]

Well said Iankh! Or to use boatboatboat's favorite term......"EGG-ZACT-LEE"

:sunny: Shan

[Sammie]

It just strikes me that perhaps what is said here might not represent the majority.

Which is the reason Disney does not consider this forum a representation of the total membership.

Very good post, iankh. Well thought out and rational, something we don't always see here. :thumbsup2

[Glorydaz]

back to the thread : have you changed your mind ? truthfully, yes! we were staying at WL in Feb when we took the no pressure tour...loved what we saw, went home & bought...I also do a lot of researching online and lucky me - found these boards!! I've considered buying some points at WL also because I loved the feel of the place -still debating it - the wait for buses was up to 20 minutes there as well and I didn't see it as a problem. I'm NOT at work, I'm NOT cleaning my house, I'm NOT involved in 3 chores at once - I"M ON VACATION!

have I changed my mind? yes - I've come to love the concept, look and feel of SSR more and more...I'm seriously tired of all the bashing and nonsense I've been reading here , these boards are my salvation of a sort....life is too damn short and may I remind you, we are ALL the lucky ones?! we own a piece of this! wherever we lay our heads at night in Disney - our children and grandchildren will all get to see Mickey in the morning, stroll through the countries in Epcot and take a safari ride in AK...

my sweetheart - boyfriend just lost his Dad this past week and some of you, I'm sure will understand the sadness we're going through....we are bringing his Mom to SSR with us in October - I can't wait to be there - to enjoy early morning coffee on our balcony's - to take a leisurely stroll with her down the winding paths - to bring her to the spa for a treat....to share our "home" with her...

people, remember the important stuff - it's not so much the place as the feeling...and SSR feels right to us..

good night

[sanilacjack]

I can't respond,

Aaahhmmm….actually you have. Again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

Actually 539 times in the last 25 days.

In some societies it’s called “having the last word”!!

I feel sorry for any one who starts a thread about a SSR, good…bad…or other wise. You, BoatBoatBoat, have sucked the life and all good natured ness out of this board.

If I’m correct you DON”T EVEN OWN AT SSR…..hence……..YOU PAY NO DUES THERE……hence……..STOP YOUR %#*$()%^!!!!

Dear Shan, I apologize…..after 25 days, I can’t take any more!!

-Kim

[shantay1008]

Don't look now, Kim, but another fellow has started an SSR-bashing thread.... According to him, those of us who bought at SSR are afraid to admit that we've made a huge mistake because we've spent so much money on this place. He called it the "Las Vegas pot" syndrome or something like that.

I guess they're on to us now. We'll just have to admit they're right and that we made a huge mistake buying at SSR. Somehow we must find the strength to get through 48 more years of horrendous vacations. I thought my family had a wonderful time at SSR in February, but clearly we were just kidding ourselves.

(I know I'm being snarky, but it's all so silly.)
Shannon

[PinkTink63]

Yes, I am from Saratoga Springs, NY. Great small town, great summer place, but worthy of a DVC theme??????? :confused3


DAVE

Dave,
I am curious as to why you bought at SSR instead of a resale, considering you are from SS? I find the decor charming, but I know that you think it is bland. I am from the NW, so to me, the VWL do not hold the same appeal as some of the other resorts. (Please, don't get me wrong, anyone! This is a grand lodge, and it is beautifully done, but I would feel like I am vacationing down the street from my house.)

Steph

[PinkTink63]

Don't look now, Kim, but another fellow has started an SSR-bashing thread.... According to him, those of us who bought at SSR are afraid to admit that we've made a huge mistake because we've spent so much money on this place. He called it the "Las Vegas pot" syndrome or something like that.

I guess they're on to us now. We'll just have to admit they're right and that we made a huge mistake buying at SSR. Somehow we must find the strength to get through 48 more years of horrendous vacations. I thought my family had a wonderful time at SSR in February, but clearly we were just kidding ourselves.

(I know I'm being snarky, but it's all so silly.)
Shannon

Snarky! I love that! I don't believe I have heard that one before! :lmao:

[PinkTink63]

Dave, no good deed goes unpunished. And that is a VERY GOOD deed. Hope your brother has a nice trip.


I know I will.

Dave is the best.

I don't care what dad says........

I knew I would see you appear after this post with something witty to say! :lmao:

[3DisneyNUTS]

crisi unless you book every dvc trip the next 30 years, 210+ days in advance, you WILL be staying at SSR. The numbers dictate this........

sorry.....

This is not in stone. Out of the hundreds of posts that say this my experience says otherwise. I was able to get parking lot view at BWV with 3 months out just by calling. Not everyone plans their vacations so far in advance like the dis-boarders do. So this reoccurring warning about the 11-7 rules are not going to be as dramatic as everyone makes them out to be on these boards.

[PinkTink63]

I am amazed by all the "SSR-haters" on this board sometimes. Do they not realize that by telling people on the boards all the things they don't like about SSR, they are only causing those people to not want to go to SSR but rather to want to stay at their chosen resort? For goodness sakes...if you don't want people staying at the Blessed Heart of BWV or BCV, be quiet already and let those of us who are deluded enough to actually like SSR stay there!


Very Well put and good points!

[3DisneyNUTS]

I am amazed by all the "SSR-haters" on this board sometimes. Do they not realize that by telling people on the boards all the things they don't like about SSR, they are only causing those people to not want to go to SSR but rather to want to stay at their chosen resort? For goodness sakes...if you don't want people staying at the Blessed Heart of BWV or BCV, be quiet already and let those of us who are deluded enough to actually like SSR stay there!
Don't worry there are BWV haters out there (as well as haters of each resort I am sure). We hated out experince there we will never go back and since it was a total of 9 of us and 3 rooms I am sure there will be BWV lovers to fill the void left by us. We love SSR and while I am sure will will try okw, VWL BCV HHI and VBR sometime in the next 40+ years my main choice will be SSR. Since buying in 2004 we have been there 3 times with our 4th trip being this may :)

[PinkTink63]

I don't get it. :confused3

This is considered tacky:

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/ss116.jpg

But this is isn't? (I think if you stare at this couch long enough, you may actually develop double vision! :teeth: )

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/bwstudio26.jpg

This is an interesting look:

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/bcv61.jpg

Ya know, I think I actually had this couch in my first apartment. ;)

http://www.allearsnet.com/acc/okw17.jpg

I was thinking the same thing! 1970's :confused3 I don't see the same harvest gold, avacodo green, and lets not forget the burnt orange.! :lmao:
I didn't see you put the VWL photo in with these?! Don't they have forest green and maroon or something like it!I guess there is something for everyone!

[PinkTink63]

Well it's become obvious SSR is by far the best resort.

Location, looks, fast elavators, what more do you need?

Well, according to you, it needs to be right behind EPCOT and MGM! :lmao:

[PinkTink63]

sam

ssr reservations will NEVER reflect the size.

you know that, i know that, everyone including DVC knows that.


That isn't bashing, it is simply stating the obvious.

take 100 potential customers, show them all 5 WDW resorts, and offer to sell them pts for 100 dollars each, for a 50 year contract, and ssr would not sell as well as the others.

to dispute that is foolish.

there is a reason dvc didn't build in that location sooner.

now with that being said, if i were buying dvc today, and wanted a wdw resort (not hh or vero), I would look long and hard at ssr. 12 years means alot, and I would never discount the value of that.

But, if everything was equal, ssr would be the slowest selling of the 5 wdw dvc's if they were brand new and put on the mkt today.

Once again, where are they supposed to continue building DVC? Since BWV & BCV are already in place, DTD, to me, does seem logical! I know, they could make BC & BW 20 stories high! How about that! B3, your logic is flawed! Disney is going to continue building DVC and do you honestly think they are going to get smaller? (excluding already existing resorts) That is why they have the booking window set up the way they do. No, you might not get BC or BW 2 weeks out during spring break, but that is the way it goes! You better plan ahead and that is what DVC recommends. We were all sold DVC as a home resort able to use all of DVC and it is really too bad that there are some people that only like one or two resorts, because I think they are all great, and I would not be upset if I got "Stuck" at any of them! Sure, I prefer some over others, but come on people, it's not like any of them are dumps!! If someone hates SSR so much that they would rent out there points to not stay there, then, by all means, do it! That is the BEAUTY of DVC! :woohoo:

Disney has space to keep building for several decades. I think that everything will work out for everyone. Unlike Daitcher, I bought SSR knowing the size of the resort.

And for anymore of you SSR "Hater's", bring it on! I have thick skin! I am a fragrance model, for goodness sake! :lmao: I get more abuse and rejection than this everyday at my job! :lmao:

Where is the love? :love: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

[PinkTink63]

Well said Iankh! Or to use boatboatboat's favorite term......"EGG-ZACT-LEE"

:sunny: Shan

Darnit! You beat me to it! I was going to say that! :lmao:

[PinkTink63]

my sweetheart - boyfriend just lost his Dad this past week and some of you, I'm sure will understand the sadness we're going through....we are bringing his Mom to SSR with us in October - I can't wait to be there - to enjoy early morning coffee on our balcony's - to take a leisurely stroll with her down the winding paths - to bring her to the spa for a treat....to share our "home" with her...

people, remember the important stuff - it's not so much the place as the feeling...and SSR feels right to us..

good night

I most certainly do understand the sadness that you're going through! I lost my dad last year and it has been the hardest thing ever for me and my family!
I saw my dad almost every day, because they lived down the street from me.
My dad had health issues for many years, which enabled him to travel. Therefore, my mom didn't really either. That is one of the reasons for buying DVC, even though we didn't have the cash. We just never know what lies ahead and I don't want miss out on my family! :sad2:

I'm very sorry for your loss and I think it is great that you guys are taking his mom to SSR. I hope to get my mom there some day!

Stephanie

[bpmorley]

This is not in stone. Out of the hundreds of posts that say this my experience says otherwise. I was able to get parking lot view at BWV with 3 months out just by calling. Not everyone plans their vacations so far in advance like the dis-boarders do. So this reoccurring warning about the 11-7 rules are not going to be as dramatic as everyone makes them out to be on these boards.

I had 2 vactions(actually long weekends) that were booked within 6 week to 2 months. BW and BC. i haven't heard of anyone not being able to get a room. Maybe not the room or view that they wanted but still a room in the resort they want

[ellynsoh]

We stayed March 12-17. We were in a studio in the Paddock section. We had no car and found it was quite a walk to the bus stop, quiet pool, Artists' Palette. We walked along the path to Downtown Disney from the Congress Park stop, as the bus driver suggested, but it was a LONG walk. We thought the big advantage of Saratoga would be the proximity to DD, but we didn't find it so. I'm wondering if the paid guests get the good locations, and DVC gets whatever is left over. I had requested walking distance to DD.
That said, it was very quiet. This time, we had two adults. I thought often of the trek to the pool or bus stop with three babies, which we'll have next time. However, we were at the end of a long corridor the last time we stayed at BC, and that was a hike, also.

[shantay1008]

We stayed March 12-17. We were in a studio in the Paddock section. We had no car and found it was quite a walk to the bus stop, quiet pool, Artists' Palette. We walked along the path to Downtown Disney from the Congress Park stop, as the bus driver suggested, but it was a LONG walk. We thought the big advantage of Saratoga would be the proximity to DD, but we didn't find it so. I'm wondering if the paid guests get the good locations, and DVC gets whatever is left over. I had requested walking distance to DD.
That said, it was very quiet. This time, we had two adults. I thought often of the trek to the pool or bus stop with three babies, which we'll have next time. However, we were at the end of a long corridor the last time we stayed at BC, and that was a hike, also.
We stayed at SSR in Feb. with four babies, and requested the Springs section. We were right across the street from the main pool and had no trouble bopping back and forth from the pool/Artist's Palette and our room. I actually preferred not having to traipse dripping wet and half-dressed through a lobby to get back to our room after swimming.

Our building was also right next to a bus stop, and the kids kept busy during the short waits for the buses by watching the ducks in the pond right behind the bus stop (there's a nice little overlook area there).

Shannon

[Slakk]

However, we were at the end of a long corridor the last time we stayed at BC, and that was a hike, also.

I feel your pain - we had the same thing happen at BWV and after a day doing the Epcot Death March imagine how we felt when our room key did not work and we had to walk back to the front desk and get new keys and walk back...I almost thought I would be crawling back.

In fact the CM felt so bad they sent someone to check and make sure we got in so we did not have to trek back.

[bpmorley]

I think it's the Paddock section that everyone has the problem with. If you're in congress park, it's 5 minutes to DTD. The Springs is right accross the street from the main pool and building. Maybe I'm just reading into it, but it does seem that most of the complaints were from people who stayed in the Paddock. My only stay there was in The Springs. i thought it was great. Also at the time the Paddock wasn't open. I don't think I could imagine staying back there. they need to build something over in that side for the paddock. The springs and Congress park don't need any changes.

We also stayed right by the parking lot at BCV, i'm sure the indoor walk was nowhere near the distance from the Paddock to the main pool at SSR

[NYBlue1]

Here's the thing. We bought at SSR and expected to like it, and then we stayed there and we did like it. It is in our best interest to have a blast at SSR since we own there, and we managed to do just that.

I think we have some very different perspectives at play on these threads. We have people like me who bought at SSR with eyes wide open and think it's just great and wouldn't have (I hope) bought there if we didn't like it. We've already made ourselves at home there and have our list of things we can't wait to do when we go back.

But then there's another group who bought at other DVC resorts and are afraid they're going to be forced to stay at SSR, a resort they don't like very much.

I feel for you, but I don't know what you really hope to accomplish here. You're not going to convince those of us who bought SSR because we like it not to like it. Pointing out things you don't like won't really help your cause...and will just make you seem like a sort of buzz-killer.

So it seems to me that you need to work with DVC management to figure out what to do if you find yourself "stuck" in a resort you don't like. I'm not saying there's not room for improvement at any of the resorts, and conversations to that effect can be really interesting and productive, but I just don't think the current approach is very effective.

Shannon

Very nicely presented Shannon, I just purchased an additional 130 points at SSR and took advantage of the 2 free season passes perk before the prices jump on the first. I could not be more happy!

[bpmorley]

Very nicely presented Shannon, I just purchased an additional 130 points at SSR and took advantage of the 2 free season passes perk before the prices jump on the first. I could not be more happy!

I've been debating on the same offer. That would give us 400 total pts. Alot of disney time.

[NYBlue1]

Sounds great to me the more Disney time the better!!! :banana: 12

[Ms.Mouse]

I want to ask people this question:

If SSR is where BWV is, would you love SSR? And if BWV is where SSR is, would you still praise so high about BWV?


To be honest with you....Yes!!! There were a few reasons why I refused to buy SSR. The main reason was the location. Downtown Disney and PI does nothing for me. I do like to go to two or three shops in that Downtown area but that one day trip is enough for me. AND I don't even get to DTD on each trip we make. I like Goofy's Candy Company, The Home Store and of course, IceCream sundaes!!!! My DH and I brought our kids to WDW every year for many years...That was our "family trip" each year. We took about 5-7 years off and started going again. Sometimes just DH and I alone and sometimes the whole family. EPCOT has always been a favorite of my whole family so it was an easy choice to want to purchase into the BWV's. Another "problem" is that I wasn't about to buy into SSR because I've read more negative posts about the transportation problems and the other problems with the size of the place (walking distance) etc...AND FROM PEOPLE WHO OWN THERE!!! I wasn't about to take the chance when the park we like the best is withing a short walking distance from the resort... I know BCV and BWV's may also have transport problems from time to time (although I haven't seen many negative posts about that) but who cares about it when it takes a few minutes to walk to two of WDW's parks??? Even if they did have bus problems, you can make it to two parks with no problem and the hassle would be much less... It was a location thing for me and probably is for most. Most of us wouldn't "Praise so high" the BWV's if they were where SSR is. Of course, this is my opinion on what others would think (and that means nothing) The extra years my guide kept telling me about was not going to sway my decision. I'd rather be where I am for twelve years less and be where I enjoy being... Will I go to SSR??? Probably not if it were my choice... like I said, I don't like the area (but nothing against those who do, so please don't anyone get defensive)... But if there were DVC resorts within close walking distance to AK or MK, I'd certainly consider a visit there first .

So... after all of my rambling ;) to answer your ????? If SSR was in walking distance to the parks I enjoy, I would have bought in a heartbeat...

[bpmorley]

It's tough to change my opinion. I like the place. We just got married and have no kids, so we like PI at night. BCV & BWV are close to EPCOT and MGM, but I don't mind the few minute bus trip to either park. We like the restaurants and everything else that DTD & SSR have to offer. Maybe once we have children we'll want to be closer to MK or AK, but for now it doesn't matter. I hear all the changes that people want to put into SSR and they would be great. Really great actually, but if they don't change a thing that would be fine too. I do have to say though, if they do build another DVC at AK or Contemporary I will buy points over there too. And one thing is great about SSR, I have an extra 12 years.

[Slakk]

It's tough to change my opinion. I like the place. We just got married and have no kids, so we like PI at night. BCV & BWV are close to EPCOT and MGM, but I don't mind the few minute bus trip to either park.

You know I think that *close* to MGM and Epcot needs to be qualified. If you are in good shape and do not have blisters on top of blisters you could walk to MGM but it is no hop skip and a jump and to be honest the boat to MGM takes as long as any bus trip.

Same goes for Epcot - if you want to go to the World Showcase it is not a big deal but if you want to start at the front of the park it is a hike.

It is all relative.

[La2kw]

You know I think that *close* to MGM and Epcot needs to be qualified. If you are in good shape and do not have blisters on top of blisters you could walk to MGM but it is no hop skip and a jump and to be honest the boat to MGM takes as long as any bus trip.

Same goes for Epcot - if you want to go to the World Showcase it is not a big deal but if you want to start at the front of the park it is a hike.

It is all relative.

I agree. It's no short walk to MGM, and the boat transportation is so slow, it's ridiculous. Epcot is closer, but WS doesn't even open up until after 11am, so in the morning you have to walk quite a distance to get to the attractions which are open. BCV is very convenient to go to WS for dinner and Illuminations, but we do a lot more than that at WDW.

[bpmorley]

2 good points. It is all relative. I'm not in bad shape and I like to walk. I think we walked from MGM to BCV in about 15 mins. We actually beat the boat. It just pulled up when we were leaving the park. And I can't understand why the world showcase opens so much later than the rest of the park. oh well, I don't make the rules.