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lillygator
03-20-2006, 07:25 AM
how much did you lose during induction?

Thanks!

Big V
03-20-2006, 08:53 AM
Hi lilly, I did Atkins a couple of years ago and lost 17# in 2-3 months. I did not do it 100% and I did join a health club and worked out at least 5 days a week. I'm trying to get motivated to get back on it. I'm type 2 diabetic and I have to say that when I was on it my blood sugars went way down which is what I needed to do. Keep me posted on how you are doing and hopefully it will get me motivated. :Pinkbounc poohlover2 , Pam (under dh log in forgot to do mine)

lillygator
03-20-2006, 11:52 AM
Hi and thanks for responding...I am starting induction today! Hopefully I can keep my willpower up for two weeks!

I need to lose 22 overall so I am hoping this gives me a jump start. I also plan on working out at least 3-4 times a week. On my lunch today I did 40 minutes on the bike! :) Yeah! It's out of the way today so anything I do tonight is gravy so to speak!!


Would love to hear what anyone thinks of Atkins and what you lost in the first month or so and if you kept doing induction past the second week!

NCRedding
03-20-2006, 01:23 PM
I did Atkins two years ago, and did quite well. On induction, I lost 11 pounds the first two weeks (but I had a lot more to lose than you).

I found that day 3 and 4 to be the hardest to get thru. I felt a little flu-like, and had a head-ache.

poohraedopey
03-20-2006, 05:48 PM
I've done it in the past with great success my problem is when I go back off. I always lose at least 10 pounds on induction. I'm on my 3rd go round now I started last Monday and am already down 10 pounds but I had about 45-50 to start. So I am not sure what you'd expect with 22. All I know is summer is coming and Atkins is the only thing that truely works for me at a good rate of speed. I do exercise and have a fairly active job which helps.

lillygator
03-20-2006, 08:50 PM
are you only staying on induction for 2 wks?

lillygator
03-22-2006, 10:00 AM
anyone else?

poohraedopey
03-23-2006, 03:38 PM
I normally stay close to induction all the time..... the only thing I ever really add is fresh berries when summer season rolls around. If you start adding after induction just be careful you don't go too high everyone has a slightly different level they can lose at. have you checked out the lowcarbfriends website? It has fantastic message boards! http://lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/

At any rate I am doing well down 12.5 so far for me 2 weeks....

lillygator
03-24-2006, 08:46 AM
great job!!

poohraedopey
03-27-2006, 03:11 PM
How are you doing? I'm suprised no one else has replied. I think Atkins has really dropped off in popularity. Anyways my 2 weeks ends tomorrow and I am down 16. I can totally live with that. I'm sure it will slow down from here out though but I am happy.

themudd4
03-27-2006, 08:08 PM
My brother started Adkins roughly 2 1/2 years ago or so. He lost 25 lbs. in the first 2 weeks. He stuck to it like glue...but didn't really work out or anything. He has lost 130+ lbs. and has kept it off. He totally looks like a new person.

Bonus: His blood pressure went down and he was able to go off med's too.

lillygator
03-28-2006, 08:58 AM
well I caved and had carbs so I need to start over.....but I was good for almost the entire week and had lost nothing...kind of discouraging!

poohraedopey
03-28-2006, 04:12 PM
Sorry to hear that, it is deffinitly discouraging. All I can say is not every diet is for everyone. Maybe south beach would work out better since it allows a wider variety of foods?

themudd: How awesome for your brother! That's so great he has kept it off!

Ms.Mouse
03-28-2006, 11:55 PM
I've done Atkins twice. The first time, I lost 29 lbs. in a month...and I ate like a piggy ;) . This time, I lost about 12 lbs. in the induction phase and stayed in the high end of ketosis. The problem???? I feel good for awhile on Atkins and then I become sick. I get abdominal pains (like gallbladder only I had it removed years ago) and start feeling ill. I even get chest pains at times on the diet.... So, what am I doing??? Having a little fun (but not going nuts on carbs) until I get my Michael Thermond's body makeover diet. My daughter and I are going on it together even though she only really needs a little toning. A friend of mine started this program and she's losing well. On this plan, I'd be able to have some fruits and a little bit of potato carbs. I think it's a little healthier. I'm not meaning to knock Atkins. I just feel it's not healthy for me My mom is a cardiac patient and her cardiologist said some of her patients are on Atkins and doing very well. Their labs show lowered cholesterol and better labwork. I do believe Atkins had something there and it's so sad he died before he could see the huge effect his diet had on people after all those years of arguing it.

Zmsksirt
03-29-2006, 12:09 AM
Don't fool yourself. Eat less and exercise more. :thumbsup2

lillygator
03-30-2006, 11:32 AM
Rae - would you mind telling what types things you eat? snack items....and can you have wine during induction? I see that it has very little carbs....

UrsulasShadow
04-02-2006, 04:45 PM
I must be the only person in the world who gained weight on Atkins, and South Beach, too. I tried both for the induction phase + 1 week, and gained 5 lbs on Atkins, 10 on South beach. Now I'm on WW, and have lost that 15, plus another 10, and I'm NEVER hungry, and NEVER felt the least sick or uncomfortable. Guess there's a method for everyone, and not every method is good for every person.

Ms.Mouse
04-02-2006, 10:17 PM
Eat less and exercise more??? Sometimes things don't work out that way for some.... I binge and purge.... I'm 46 years old and have done this on and off since I was a young teen. I've gone for counsel but this is something I fall into fairly often. Many people have different eating disorders and we try to cope the best we can. As far as exercise, that too, is difficult for me. I do try to walk but I'm on my feet 9 hours each nite I work (5-6 evenings a week) and with a chronic problem with heel spurs!!!! :( ... not to mention the things I do at home before I go to work (we live on a small farm)... I'm certainly not saying this for anyone's sympathy and I don't mean to sound critical BUT we can't judge where others are at or so easily say...." Eat less and exercise more".

lillygator
04-03-2006, 11:37 AM
Ms. Mouse - I didn't like that post either and just chose to ignore it considering the poster!

Ursula - I love WW and am a lifetime member - right now I am 16 away from getting back to my lifetime weight (and able to show my face again)...I haev been following Atkins to the letter since Wednesday and have lost. I plan to do the 2 week induction and go from there...eventually getting back to ww....that is such an easy plan to follow...I always allowed myself a bad night per week - usually weigh in night - ! Good luck you are doing great!

Ms.Mouse
04-03-2006, 01:01 PM
Ursula,
Don't feel badly, I did lose a good amount of weight when I was on Atkins but before Atkins, I followed South Beach to the tee and gained 3 lbs. the first week and also gained another 2 the second before I scrapped that diet idea. My doctor told me at one time that if we have a constant stress in our lives it's possible for our bodies to hold onto weight because if we are under stress AND dieting also, our bodies may think they are in starvation mode and hang onto weight..... I don't know how true this is but it does make sense... AND it's happened to me where the Weight Watchers leader asked me to jot down everything I put into my mouth for two weeks in a row (because of lack of weight loss and one week of weight gain) and he said there was no reason for it and to go to the doctor, who checked my blood for anything that could be wrong (especially thyroid, hormones etc.) and everything was normal.....

Nana Annie
04-03-2006, 02:51 PM
I did Atkins about 3 years ago and lost 40lbs in 3 months. I kept it off for about a year and then gradually slipped back into my carboholic lifestyle of very, very poor eating. Needless to say, I gained it all back. I tried a few other diets in the ensuing two years, but have not had any success with them as I am a carboholic and any diet that allowed carbs enabled me to cheat way too much. So, I just started Atkins again. It is the only thing that works for me. Already down 5 lbs.

I do drink wine with the diet and it has never affected my results. I also tend to stay very close to induction the whole time. My carb tolerance seems to be right at the 30 gram mark, so it is very close to induction with that glass of wine.

Lillygator - don't stress over cheating. Just put it behind you and finish out the day sticking to induction. One cheat isn't going to make too much difference - maybe take you out of ketosis for a day. The only way it will hurt you is if you let it be an excuse to carb out the rest of the day. I speak this from experience :) I would sneak a french fry and then tell myself - well all is lost, so I may as well finish the fries, have that bagel I have been craving - etc.

I too find the worst craving day the 3rd or 4th day into the diet. If you can get through the first week, then the cravings really do subside.

Good luck to all who are on Atkins!

Zmsksirt
04-03-2006, 11:52 PM
Eat less and exercise more??? Sometimes things don't work out that way for some.... I binge and purge.... I'm 46 years old and have done this on and off since I was a young teen. I've gone for counsel but this is something I fall into fairly often. Many people have different eating disorders and we try to cope the best we can. As far as exercise, that too, is difficult for me. I do try to walk but I'm on my feet 9 hours each nite I work (5-6 evenings a week) and with a chronic problem with heel spurs!!!! :( ... not to mention the things I do at home before I go to work (we live on a small farm)... I'm certainly not saying this for anyone's sympathy and I don't mean to sound critical BUT we can't judge where others are at or so easily say...." Eat less and exercise more".Dr. Atkins' diet was discredited long ago. It's not a healthy alternative for anyone. Common sense and medical studies make that clear. Concerning your eating problems, you need help. Consult a doctor that specializes in eating disorders. I hope you get better. :wave2:

Ms.Mouse
04-05-2006, 01:19 AM
Dr. Atkins' diet was discredited long ago. It's not a healthy alternative for anyone. Common sense and medical studies make that clear. :wave2:

Zmsksirt,

Many people are doing just fine on Atkins. As for not being a healthy alternative for ANYONE.... maybe for me and maybe for you BUT many cardiac specialists tell their patients that IF they can follow the diet... then it's GREAT!!! My brother's friend had a major heart attack a little more than 5 years ago at the age of 31 and his cardiac specialist put him on Atkins... His bad cholesterol level went down... good went up and he's lost weight (even though he only had a couple of pounds to lose) I would think that if Atkins is Soooo bad, then those with heart damage to begin with would be dead (or at least have alot of plaque built up in the valves and be pretty sickly) but the doctors are still finding that many of these people are doing just great..... My brother's friend is not the only cardiac patient I know who is on the diet and doing great on it....And not just cardiac patients but others.
AND we seem to forget... or not want to realize what the Atkins diet is....
people make the diet unhealthy...NOT MR. ATKINS.... Induction was meant to be a short time thing.... Then carbs are added slowly until you get to a certain point.... It's those who never get out of Induction who may make themselves sick... I ate well on Atkins...better than when I'm binging etc...AND I never ate so many "good carbs" in a long time...
When Atkins says to add carbs and people don't, that doesn't make the diet unhealthy... It makes the person not following the diet unhealthy.

I still believe Atkins is a great diet for some and for many others...just not for me with my "problems" and not for many others.

I don't think we should discourage those who choose Atkins and are losing weight successfully.. Think of it this way.... If you weigh 250 lbs and you need to lose 100 lbs to be at a "healthy weight"... First of all, 100 lbs doesn't just come on us in a week (or month)... It's a long time of "unhealthy eating" that is endangering your health (and everyone has their own reasons for their "unhealthy eating patterns" ) Well, going on Atkins Induction is eating fish, poultry, red meats, veggies, salads... Much more healthy than potato chips, candy, cookies, etc, etc that made you gain that extra 100 lbs.... What's so bad about that???
Gradually, after Induction, other good foods are added, such as, sweet potato, berries, grapefruit, etc, and low carb pastas, breads, etc. You know, I think because a few people got out there and said you could eat all the bacon, eggs, pork, red bleeding meats, mayo by the tons, that people got the wrong idea about Atkins.... Atkins even encourages dieters to use more "good oils" like olive instead of butter.... And leaner meats... I don't know why I get sick on Atkins... I still think it has something to do with my gallbladder (or lack of it ;) ) I still believe it's a GREAT diet for those who can stay on it...

And for those on it.... Don't forget... If you fall off... get right back on and you'll be ok.... I'm giving you a little :cheer2:

lillygator
04-05-2006, 07:10 AM
Let's just ignore the rude poster who obviously was never taught, "if you don't have anything nice to say...."...

kizzy212
04-05-2006, 07:46 AM
well i can honestly say i enjoyed reading this post.

we can see that we all have different view on atkins. but going back to the orignal question that lillygator ask.

How much did you lose during induction?

Well i am still on induction and have been since new years day. as you can see from tickerbar i have lost 49lb so far. my first two weeks i lost a totally of 16lbs.

260lbs start weight

i am doing atkins cause it works for me.

good luck to all the atkins dieters. hope the pounds fall off fast :thumbsup2

lillygator
04-05-2006, 08:02 AM
that's awesome....today is the end of week one for me and I will go weigh in at lunch....I was down a total of 6 pounds as of Monday and only have 16 left to go! I anticipate the second week to be less of a loss? Is that right?

Ms.Mouse
04-05-2006, 08:18 AM
Rae - would you mind telling what types things you eat? snack items....and can you have wine during induction? I see that it has very little carbs....

Lillygator,
If you are following Atkins closely, Wine is NOT on Induction (although there are a couple of Atkins recipes that did cook with wine). I don't remember wine being on the OWL part either although I could be wrong on that period of the diet. For snacks on Induction I just used the Atkins bars. They are only a couple of carbs and they filled me.

Ms.Mouse
04-05-2006, 08:21 AM
that's awesome....today is the end of week one for me and I will go weigh in at lunch....I was down a total of 6 pounds as of Monday and only have 16 left to go! I anticipate the second week to be less of a loss? Is that right?

Don't anticipate less of a weight loss.... On the second week, I only lost slightly less. You have much less weight to lose than I did though. Lilly, you'll have to let us know!!!!!

lillygator
04-05-2006, 09:09 AM
Ms. Mouse...I noticed it wasn't on induction but since I saw it had so little carbs I thought maybe...but I haven't had any - trying to be very good at least give these first two weeks a real shot.
I tell you, not eating carbs is really really hard. And I thought 32 hours of labor was tough!

JMD
04-05-2006, 10:55 AM
Dr. Atkins' diet was discredited long ago. It's not a healthy alternative for anyone.


I agree completely. Offering a differing opinion is not rude, its just their opinion. With all the studies regarding atkins and all the other better alternatives, I'm really suprised that people are still using this diet.

And the post "eat less and exercise more", is correct. Maybe it would be more accurate to say "eat better and exercise more". People tend to over-complicate dieting. Its generally pretty simple, especially if you have a substantial amount of weight to lose.

UrsulasShadow
04-05-2006, 11:19 AM
I agree completely. Offering a differing opinion is not rude, its just their opinion. With all the studies regarding atkins and all the other better alternatives, I'm really suprised that people are still using this diet.

And the post "eat less and exercise more", is correct. Maybe it would be more accurate to say "eat better and exercise more". People tend to over-complicate dieting. Its generally pretty simple, especially if you have a substantial amount of weight to lose.

I'm glad you clarified that oversimplified statement "eat less, exercise more". I fully agree with eating better food, I completely disagree with eating less. That is how I originally got to this sorry state...completely screwing up my metabolism by sending it spiralling into starvation mode, not eating enough quality food to keep the system running properly. It IS more complicated than just eating less, so that is less an opinion than a false statement of fact. It's not rude, just incorrect, and very glib (which does border on rude). Knocking folks' efforts on living a healthier lifestyle, no matter how they choose to go about it, really undermines the effort, and that IS rude.

For instance, I stated it didn't work for me. That was a fact, and completely non-accusatory towards those for whom the system seems to be working. The objectionable post attacked the system, and the people using it, to the extent of attacking the one poster who admitted to a problem in her approach to food. Not nice.

This WISH board is meant to support, not attack.

Ms.Mouse
04-05-2006, 11:22 AM
Ms. Mouse...I tell you, not eating carbs is really really hard. And I thought 32 hours of labor was tough!


Lilly,
You're soooo funny. I'm sitting at my computer like this:
:goodvibes :lmao: :rotfl: :rotfl2:

lillygator
04-05-2006, 11:45 AM
I agree completely. Offering a differing opinion is not rude, its just their opinion. With all the studies regarding atkins and all the other better alternatives, I'm really suprised that people are still using this diet.


offering an opinion is not rude but as the OP I was questioning things specific to Atkins, not whether it was a healthy vs unhealthy diet. And that poster - search - has plenty of one liners which are quite rude throughout the board so I find it very very hard to believe he/she was trying to be helpful, especially in the first post they wrote in this thread.

Ms.Mouse
04-05-2006, 11:48 AM
I agree completely. Offering a differing opinion is not rude, its just their opinion.

I agree... It's all about our opinions but It's also in how we say/write things to others. We can state differing opinions kindly.

With all the studies regarding atkins and all the other better alternatives, I'm really suprised that people are still using this diet.

BUT Just look at all these "better alternatives" South Beach, Weight Watchers core program, now that I have Body Makeover by Thermond, all of these new "better alternatives" are just another version of Atkins...AFTER INDUCTION. Atkins, of course, is more strict BUT once you determine your top carb intake, it's up to you which carb you'll eat. And you can do it low-fat, if you choose, but it does take up more carb. Which is a reason why you don't lose as fast on the other plans...BUT when you have lots to lose... Those pounds do make you feel better on the scale.


And the post "eat less and exercise more", is correct. Maybe it would be more accurate to say "eat better and exercise more". People tend to over-complicate dieting. Its generally pretty simple, especially if you have a substantial amount of weight to lose.

For some, it may be "generally pretty simple" BUT in reality, for the majority, it really isn't that simple... Otherwise, we would have all been able to lose on one of the many diets/eating plan etc. that we've all tried.... (OK, let's be honest... most of us have tried plenty of plans including our own made up plans of "eating less" ;) AND if it really were that simple, we would have been able to keep the weight off that we lost on those programs. Some people are compulsive eaters, some emotional, some have different types of eating disorders. AND these are the majority of dieters.... SO.... even though I agree with you that IF we "eat less and exercise more"... IT REALLY IS NOT THAT SIMPLE FOR THE MAJORITY.

See, even though I disagree, we can say things nicely... LET'S ALL GET TOGETHER AS A GROUP......URUSLA, LILLY, JMD, KIZZY, ZMSKSIRT, NANA, BIG V, NC, POOH, THEMUDD, and all others and do this: :wave2: :love: :grouphug:

JMD
04-05-2006, 01:45 PM
offering an opinion is not rude but as the OP I was questioning things specific to Atkins, not whether it was a healthy vs unhealthy diet.

Understood.


And that poster - search - has plenty of one liners which are quite rude throughout the board so I find it very very hard to believe he/she was trying to be helpful, especially in the first post they wrote in this thread.

I've never read anything else by that poster, so I can't say whether or not they have a history of being rude. Maybe it was a poor choice on my part to "completely agree" with an poster that has a history of being abrasive.

I was only trying to point out that there are better alternatives to Atkins. But since that is not your question, then its irrelevant.

Good luck to you with whatever diet you choose to do. I repect anyone that chooses to better themselves, regardless of whether I agree with the method they use to get them there.

JMD
04-05-2006, 02:04 PM
For some, it may be "generally pretty simple" BUT in reality, for the majority, it really isn't that simple... Otherwise, we would have all been able to lose on one of the many diets/eating plan etc. that we've all tried.... (OK, let's be honest... most of us have tried plenty of plans including our own made up plans of "eating less" ;) AND if it really were that simple, we would have been able to keep the weight off that we lost on those programs. Some people are compulsive eaters, some emotional, some have different types of eating disorders. AND these are the majority of dieters.... SO.... even though I agree with you that IF we "eat less and exercise more"... IT REALLY IS NOT THAT SIMPLE FOR THE MAJORITY.

I have to respectfully disagree. The vast majority of people do not have legitimate eating disorders. In fact, they are quite rare. And most people fail on these "plans", whether its WW, South Beach or Atkins, because nobody can stay on them forever. People start these diet programs until they have lost enough weight and then stop. And the whole time they've been counting points, and watching carbs, they've never educated themselves on proper nutrition and exercise. The general population is really clueless about nutrition and how your body responds to different foods.

If you're interested in losing weight and getting healthy, then its about a lifestyle change. Not just following a program for some arbitrary amount of time and then stopping. Its about educating yourself and learning how to make the right choices. Setting up an exercise program thats fun and that you will stick with. Once you've done that, you will have the foundation to lose all the weight you need and keep it off.

How many people do you know that have tried some new program, lost weight, and then put most, if not all of it, back on after they stopped. I know quite a few. Just read through the threads in this forum. In fact, I can say that for most people that I know that have jumped on the latest fad diet. And they are no better off today, then when they started. They are just that much older and still unhappy.



See, even though I disagree, we can say things nicely... LET'S ALL GET TOGETHER AS A GROUP......URUSLA, LILLY, JMD, KIZZY, ZMSKSIRT, NANA, BIG V, NC, POOH, THEMUDD, and all others and do this: :wave2: :love: :grouphug:

:grouphug:

Zmsksirt
04-05-2006, 04:10 PM
Zmsksirt,

Many people are doing just fine on Atkins. As for not being a healthy alternative for ANYONE....If you don't wish to believe me, then how about a few experts?

The warnings from medical authorities continue to this day. "People need to wake up to the reality," former U.S. Surgeon General C. Everett Koop writes, that the Atkins Diet is "unhealthy and can be dangerous."

The National Academy of Sciences, the most prestigious scientific body in the United States, agrees with the AMA and the ADA in opposing the Atkins Diet. So does the American Cancer Society and the American Heart Association and the Cleveland Clinic and Johns Hopkins and the American Kidney Fund and the American College of Sports Medicine and the National Institutes of Health.

As for your brother's friend, he needs to get a new cardiologist.


If you're interested in losing weight and getting healthy, then its about a lifestyle change. Not just following a program for some arbitrary amount of time and then stopping. Its about educating yourself and learning how to make the right choices. Setting up an exercise program thats fun and that you will stick with. Once you've done that, you will have the foundation to lose all the weight you need and keep it off.Excellent advice! :wave2: It's all about eating right, getting enough healthy exercise, getting enough sleep and getting into a good routine.

lillygator
04-05-2006, 09:35 PM
no need for experts ~ perhaps you missed the orginal post....it was meant to find out what people lost who have tried Atkins....IGNORE!!! IGNORE~!~~!!!! IGNORE!!!!

lillygator
04-05-2006, 09:37 PM
and BTW Zperson...there are plenty of medical experts who agree/disagree on just about everything! One can pretty much always find a "study" to back them up...

Zmsksirt
04-05-2006, 10:06 PM
and BTW Zperson...there are plenty of medical experts who agree/disagree on just about everything! One can pretty much always find a "study" to back them up...Just as long as you are aware that fad diets such as Atkins are unhealthy and can be dangerous. :wave2:

UrsulasShadow
04-05-2006, 10:25 PM
I have to respectfully disagree. The vast majority of people do not have legitimate eating disorders. In fact, they are quite rare. And most people fail on these "plans", whether its WW, South Beach or Atkins, because nobody can stay on them forever. People start these diet programs until they have lost enough weight and then stop. And the whole time they've been counting points, and watching carbs, they've never educated themselves on proper nutrition and exercise. The general population is really clueless about nutrition and how your body responds to different foods.

If you're interested in losing weight and getting healthy, then its about a lifestyle change. Not just following a program for some arbitrary amount of time and then stopping. Its about educating yourself and learning how to make the right choices. Setting up an exercise program thats fun and that you will stick with. Once you've done that, you will have the foundation to lose all the weight you need and keep it off.

How many people do you know that have tried some new program, lost weight, and then put most, if not all of it, back on after they stopped. I know quite a few. Just read through the threads in this forum. In fact, I can say that for most people that I know that have jumped on the latest fad diet. And they are no better off today, then when they started. They are just that much older and still unhappy.



:grouphug:

I agree with most everything you've written here, but for one minor point...please don't include WW in with the fad diets. It is a program based on exactly what you advise...healthy eating and exercise, backed up with lots of support and education. It's meant to be a lifelong lifestyle change, not a quick fix. If you want more info on how WW works, check it out on www.weightwatchers.com and educate yourself.

As to this board, it's meant to be supportive, not abusive. Let's not show off how "right" you are and how "wrong" everyone else is (this is meant for those who care not who they hurt, as long as they get the last word in). Good luck to everyone on their quest for better health! :grouphug:

Ms.Mouse
04-06-2006, 12:25 AM
Yes, we did get waaayyyy off the topic. It's funny, I just visited here one day and had no intention on staying here on this thread but did and will.... for awhile....

JMD.... I disagree with you... Many people who have a few pounds to lose, maybe even 20-30 pounds to lose...may not be diagnosable with an eating disorder... Maybe because they don't seek help... Maybe because they don't have a disorder
BUT
Most people who are significantly overweight DO have a diagnosable eating disorder... I've been talking to a few doctors about this subject, including the courses I've taken in my Social Work degree program and yes.... you may have a differing opinion but these courses/doctors would not agree with you.
BUT
I also know as you also probably do, the reason why you and I are not be in agreement is because any article, book, study, statistic etc., is more than likely skewed to one side or the other. Therefore, this thread will go on..and on....and on... on the for/against LO-CARB diets; what's healthy/not healthy etc. etc. etc....

Zmsksirt
04-07-2006, 11:42 PM
I'm glad you clarified that oversimplified statement "eat less, exercise more". I fully agree with eating better food, I completely disagree with eating less. That is how I originally got to this sorry state...completely screwing up my metabolism by sending it spiralling into starvation mode, not eating enough quality food to keep the system running properly. It IS more complicated than just eating less, so that is less an opinion than a false statement of fact. It's not rude, just incorrect, and very glib (which does border on rude). Knocking folks' efforts on living a healthier lifestyle, no matter how they choose to go about it, really undermines the effort, and that IS rude.Consume less calories and exercise more. I hope that helps. :wave2: Sorry if you construed my previous statements to be rude.

TexasCourt
04-08-2006, 10:33 PM
Unless someone is a cardiologist themself, with 8 + years of schooling and residency + experience, I do not think you should be recommending others to "get a new cardiologist."

Zmsksirt
04-09-2006, 12:44 AM
Unless someone is a cardiologist themself, with 8 + years of schooling and residency + experience, I do not think you should be recommending others to "get a new cardiologist."Poor diet and nutrition (Atkins diet among others), lack of physical activity, diabetes, smoking and excess alcohol are all enemies of your heart and will increase your risk of cardiovascular disease, heart failure and stroke. This is not speculative theory, it is proven scientific fact. Sorry, but the Atkins diet is unhealthy and potentially dangerous.

No reputable physician would recommend the Atkins diet to a healthy person, much less someone with congestive arterial disease. :wave2:

Ms.Mouse
04-10-2006, 12:19 AM
Unless someone is a cardiologist themself, with 8 + years of schooling and residency + experience, I do not think you should be recommending others to "get a new cardiologist."

Thanks Texas,
I'm sure my brother's friend's cardiologists from Yale University (one of the most respected hospital with many of the BEST groups of doctors in the country) would agree ;)

Ms.Mouse
04-10-2006, 12:22 AM
no need for experts ~ perhaps you missed the orginal post....it was meant to find out what people lost who have tried Atkins....IGNORE!!! IGNORE~!~~!!!! IGNORE!!!!
Lilly,
You are right and I'm among them to blame for this on-going debate... Sorry... :guilty:

Ok, let me answer the origional post again..... Yes, I've tried Atkins... Yes, I lost weight on Atkins... ;)

Sorry again.... I'm done debating (that's not to say I won't read and write... just trying to "stick to the subject" rather than waste precious time debating )... It's like "beating a dead horse" anyway... The pro-Atkins and con-Atkins will debate forever. And you know what... No One Wins... They just get frustrated and ugly about it....

For those on Atkins... :grouphug: and good luck
For those who are against the plan :grouphug: good luck on whatever plan you're on/or not.

Zmsksirt
04-11-2006, 12:38 AM
Lilly,
The pro-Atkins and con-Atkins will debate forever. And you know what... No One Wins... They just get frustrated and ugly about it....It seems that if anyone points to an alternative to your way of thinking, it's ugly.

sm4987
04-11-2006, 09:37 AM
I'll chime in here. I did a SBD/Atkins mix. I lost 15 pounds during induction 2 years ago. I've been on the mix for the last 2 1/2 years and I've lost 60 pounds and have kept it off. I stick pretty much to the list of acceptable foods and have not added back to man forbidden foods at all. If I want bread, I've found a wonderful low carb bread. Tortillas, mission or someone else's low carb brand. The low carb boards out there are great for resources. I don't think it's dropped in popularity, I do think that so many people get tired of hearing that what they are doing is wrong. I hear it all the time, but when you go from a 14 w to a size 2, I really don't care what other's think. My dr. told me to do it and it works. I went to the dr. in Jan., all of my blood work was wonderful even though before it was shot to heck. Stick to it, make new receipes (it will help greatly) EXERCISE!! It will help..........

Rhonda
04-11-2006, 06:52 PM
I have been very successful with Atkins!! I lost 50 pounds (15 pounds during the first 2 weeks Induction). :cloud9:

My doctor was with me the whole time, encouraging me!

I feel very healthy eating meat, cheese, vegetables, some fruits, some whole grains, and nuts, and cutting out the processed flours and sugars! It's a very "natural" diet and a great lifestyle to follow. :woohoo:

My cholesterol (which was high) is back to normal. I was on medication for high blood pressure, and I've been able to control it naturally now, without meds. I have more energy, sleep better, and think clearer!

I am a die-hard Atkins fan, and everytime a new study comes out that supports it I cheer! I just wish Dr. Atkins was still around to see all the test results that back up what he was trying to say for years! :cheer2:

Ms.Mouse
04-12-2006, 12:09 AM
The pro-Atkins and con-Atkins will debate forever. And you know what... No One Wins... They just get frustrated and ugly about it....

For those on Atkins... :grouphug: and good luck
For those who are against the plan :grouphug: good luck on whatever plan you're on/or not.

Zmsksirt,
I thought people here would understand what I was writing but maybe I needed to clarify for SOME.I guess you are so blinded to any other way than your own that you missed the fact that I included the pro-Atkins and the con-Atkins in the mix saying that this debate would continue on..and on... and on... AND that No One Wins because we all have our own opinions and that BOTH sides of the debate get frustrated and ugly in debating the subject. I wasn't referring to only the pro's or con's of the Atkins debate BUT BOTH. That is why I was bowing out of debating people but not bowing out of the thread.... I can't see why you are soooo uptight about this whole Atkins thing... WHO'S GETTING UGLY ABOUT THEIR VIEWS??????? WHO'S PUSHING????? You don't even know what I believe or not..... other than my views on eating disorders (but not about diets) You know, I think that whatever works for the individual works....You know, the foods allowed on any one of these diets(SB, WW, Atkins, Natural Hygiene, etc. etc.) are healthier than whatever the individual was eating before to gain 40-50-100 lbs. I mean, think about what the people who have 50+ lbs. to lose ate to gain and keep that weight on (unless it's a health problem, of course)... How can that eating be healthy??? The fat content, the sugar laden foods, etc. etc..... I'm all for Atkins if that's what works for someone...I'm all for WW for all those who make it work.... I'm one of my friend's biggest supporters because she chose to go the strict vegetarian route and when she and her DH come to my home(once a week), I cook a vegan meal for not only her but the rest of us (don't have time to cook different meals for everyone... ;) ) SO, for YOUR idea of my way (or not) of thinking.... WRONG AGAIN Zmsksirt!!!!!

ohMom
04-12-2006, 06:45 AM
ok guys this has gone a bit too far -- per the Disboard guidelines:

NO FIGHTING: Several Internet news groups are marred by the actions of a few selfish people who turn an otherwise positive forum into a soap box for their anger issues. Internet newsgroups are not moderated, and therefore, anything goes. These boards are moderated in an effort to keep the discussions appropriate to the topic at hand. Those who feel they can not abide by these rules are welcome to read the posts on the board, and respond via email to the person who posted the message. Messages that are argumentative or sarcastic in nature will be deleted without discussion.

this board is here for supprortive conversation and not the place to debate or argue, and personal attacks will not be tolerated

Ms.Mouse
04-13-2006, 12:45 AM
OhMom,

Not to worry, I'm going back to my former threads of interest. I just stumbled on this one and should have bowed out before things got uglier...That was the "plan" (except to peek in now and then) until that last post came in..... So.....

To Lilly and Rhonda... Best wishes on Atkins
To sm4987... Best wishes on your "mix" plan
To Urusla... Best of wishes on WW (I would guess that's the plan your on according to info. in one of your posts)
And to the rest... The best on whatever plan works/worked for you....

tink1978
04-14-2006, 05:40 PM
I did Atkins last year with a coworker and did great on it...however I discovered last April that the diet had caused me to develop a kidney stone (I have had one in the past). I was told to never do this diet again. Make sure that you don't have any medical problems before you do it.

Rhonda
04-14-2006, 08:27 PM
I did Atkins last year with a coworker and did great on it...however I discovered last April that the diet had caused me to develop a kidney stone (I have had one in the past). I was told to never do this diet again. Make sure that you don't have any medical problems before you do it.

Yes - I agree! Before starting Atkins, or any other diet, you should have a complete physical and let your doctor what you are planning to do. And, the Atkins books says, right in the beginning, that if you have a past kidney problem, you should not do this diet. :)

robinb
04-14-2006, 08:47 PM
I lost 7 pounds on Induction the first time and 5 pounds the second time (I just finished on Monday). I have about 33 pounds total to lose.

The Atkins Bulletin Board is a great resource (http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/?) as long as you are doing Atkins and not just low-carb. They are pretty militant, but they have had very good results.