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OrlandoMike
03-12-2006, 01:05 PM
Seems like some our younger friends dont have some of the knowledge that some of us....ummmmm....more experienced people do. Thought it would be fun to start this thread to share information.

I'll start.

Did you know Agnes Morehead was gay? Yes folks, Endora on Bewitched was a big ole Les! Think of that next time your watching TV Land.

Who's Next?

bubie2.5
03-12-2006, 02:33 PM
Are you forgetting Darrin#2 (Dick Sargent) and Uncle Arthur (Paul Lynde)? We can call Bewitched the Queer Eye of its time. ;)

OrlandoMike
03-12-2006, 04:14 PM
Paul Lynde Gay? Your kidding right? NO WAY! :rotfl2:

padalyn
03-12-2006, 07:50 PM
ok - for the obvious - Rock Hudson!

Viki
03-12-2006, 08:12 PM
Marlena Dietrich

iankh
03-12-2006, 08:17 PM
Here are two more:

Claudette Colbert
Judy Holiday

OrlandoMike
03-12-2006, 08:26 PM
OK now history for $500.

Anyone remember the hankies gay men wore in their back pockets?

Wow, that even amazed me that someone thought of all of that!

SeattleRedBear
03-12-2006, 08:29 PM
OK now history for $500.

Anyone remember the hankies gay men wore in their back pockets?

Wow, that even amazed me that someone thought of all of that!
What-da-ya-mean remember it?!! I've still got the pocket size laminated chart!!

OrlandoMike
03-12-2006, 08:42 PM
All gay men our age do! Kids these days must think we were crazy!

Ok we were!

LOL

iankh
03-12-2006, 08:46 PM
Here's another one, to go along with the hankies, do you remember wearing keys clipped on to a loop of the jeans?

Do you remember that the right side and left side meant something different, and that on the east coast what it meant was the reverse of what it meant on the west coast?

SeattleRedBear
03-12-2006, 08:58 PM
Do you remember that the right side and left side meant something different, and that on the east coast what it meant was the reverse of what it meant on the west coast?
Now, I didn't know that (having spent my formative years only on the west coast).

Okay, now I have a question for our lesbian sisters who are of a certain age. Did you all have some equivalent of hankies or keys to indicate certain, um, proclivities, interests or tendencies?

Stacerita
03-12-2006, 09:13 PM
I learn something new everytime I visit this board. :woohoo:

disneynutt1225
03-12-2006, 09:40 PM
I learn something new everytime I visit this board. :woohoo:

Me too! Where's the popcorn smilie? This is fascinating!

LukenDC
03-12-2006, 09:55 PM
When I was a college student in 1991-95, gay people and their supporters wore buttons with a triangle insignia. A pink triangle against a black background was for a gay man and a black triangle against a white background was for a lesbian. The triangle insignias were the same symbols that the Nazis used to label gay men and lesbians in the concentration camps.

I remember the first time that I wore a pink triangle button. It was a big step in my coming out and embracing my identity as a gay man. Now I rarely see the triangles used as a symbol of identification.

OrlandoMike
03-12-2006, 10:16 PM
Me Too!

I wore a pink triangle on my belt in college, and it was also a big step for me in comming out!

WOW See it us a Small World after all.

I would love to hear from the girls how it was back in the day!

momsgoofy
03-12-2006, 10:48 PM
Okay...I hope that I'm not out of line to ask this here, and if I am, I do apologize! I just have never thought to ask anyone I know around home...but I was told once that the rainbow colors used by the GLBT community were taken from the Rocky Horror Picture Show...one of my favorite movies. The guy who told me said it was from the scene when Rocky is brought to life. So, since this is Gay History 101, is this correct?

Thanks! And again I apologize if this question was out of line...I just want to make sure I have correct info so I don't perpetuate a myth.

SeattleRedBear
03-12-2006, 11:21 PM
Okay...I hope that I'm not out of line to ask this here, and if I am, I do apologize! I just have never thought to ask anyone I know around home...but I was told once that the rainbow colors used by the GLBT community were taken from the Rocky Horror Picture Show...one of my favorite movies. The guy who told me said it was from the scene when Rocky is brought to life. So, since this is Gay History 101, is this correct?

Thanks! And again I apologize if this question was out of line...I just want to make sure I have correct info so I don't perpetuate a myth.
This is the first time I've heard this. Wikipedia and a couple other sources cite 1978 as the first use of the rainbow flag as a gay pride flag (rainbow flags have represented several social movements over time). More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_flag

There also a short article at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/scotts/bulgarians/rainbow-flag.html that discusses the origin of the rainbow flag as a gay pride flag.

aunts2topher
03-13-2006, 12:47 AM
Seattle in the '80s is where I learned about bandanas . . . for the most part, I only saw them on leather dykes. I had a bunch from when I was a camp counselor (yes, a Girl Scout) and was amazed that someone had come up with a whole 'code' using them!

iankh
03-13-2006, 05:55 AM
When I was a college student in 1991-95, gay people and their supporters wore buttons with a triangle insignia. A pink triangle against a black background was for a gay man and a black triangle against a white background was for a lesbian. The triangle insignias were the same symbols that the Nazis used to label gay men and lesbians in the concentration camps.

I remember the first time that I wore a pink triangle button. It was a big step in my coming out and embracing my identity as a gay man. Now I rarely see the triangles used as a symbol of identification.

Just a slight correction, the Nazis used pink triangles for homosexuals and black triangles for prostitutes, not lesbians. In the 1980's the black triangle was adopted as a symbol for lesbians.

padalyn
03-13-2006, 07:13 AM
There is a book called "The Men of The Pink Triangle" it is only about 50 pages long. This book tells the story of the pink triangle - personally I don't like embracing a symbol born in so much fear and hatred.

On another note - what is with the bathlis? I have been out for over 15 yrs and still don't get that one :(

I wrote a paper for school one time about the symbols of lesbians - pretty interesting stuff - the rainbow does have an orgin story in San Franscisco (I don't recall it off hand) and each color represents something. The bathlis or battle axe is usually used by the hard core lesbian, another symbol adopted is the Lambda or greek L - for the obvious reasons. I recently saw a silver lipstick of all things :rotfl2:

Does anyone remember the flap about earrings? Which ear and where on the ear?

mickeyfan1
03-13-2006, 07:45 AM
Damn, and I thought that gaydar was how y'all knew about each other. LOL, one thing I was told was gay men wore one earring on the right ear, straight men on the left.

In my old days of being an office manager, I displayed a pink triangle magnet on the entrance to my cube. It was to symbolize a "safe place", corporate speak for anyone entering would be treated with respect and dignity, no matter sexual preference or orientation, etc. There were no gays in my office, but there were a few straights that took exception to it. Too bad for them being the narrow minded jerks that they were.

Love all this history, tho. Now I suppose I will be on the lookout for hankies, bandanas, keys, etc.

momsgoofy
03-13-2006, 10:52 AM
This is the first time I've heard this. Wikipedia and a couple other sources cite 1978 as the first use of the rainbow flag as a gay pride flag (rainbow flags have represented several social movements over time). More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_flag

There also a short article at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/scotts/bulgarians/rainbow-flag.html that discusses the origin of the rainbow flag as a gay pride flag.


SeattleRedBear...thanks for clarifying this for me...since I had only heard this once I really did want to know if it was true. I found the articles interesting...especially the one from wikipedia.

Thanks again!

SeattleRedBear
03-13-2006, 06:48 PM
SeattleRedBear...thanks for clarifying this for me...since I had only heard this once I really did want to know if it was true. I found the articles interesting...especially the one from wikipedia.

Thanks again!
You're welcome. I see you're a T.A. Can you put in a good word with the Tag Fairy for me? :teeth:

tmorse65
03-14-2006, 05:36 AM
Here's a tid-bit. The Stonewall riots took place the same time that people and a lot of gays were in New York mourning the death of Judy Garland in 1969.

momsgoofy
03-15-2006, 10:55 AM
You're welcome. I see you're a T.A. Can you put in a good word with the Tag Fairy for me? :teeth:


I can try...I only got mine when the Tag Fairy was handing them out freely and I shamelessly begged using the lines I got tagged with...I'll put in a shameless plug for my new DIS friend... pixiedust: pixiedust:

SeattleRedBear
03-15-2006, 11:34 AM
I can try...I only got mine when the Tag Fairy was handing them out freely and I shamelessly begged using the lines I got tagged with...I'll put in a shameless plug for my new DIS friend... pixiedust: pixiedust:
Thanks much!! It's all i can ask.

momsgoofy
03-15-2006, 10:40 PM
Thanks much!! It's all i can ask.


I put in a shameless plug for ya on the community board so we'll see.

nwdisgal
03-15-2006, 11:47 PM
Seems like some our younger friends dont have some of the knowledge that some of us....ummmmm....more experienced people do. Thought it would be fun to start this thread to share information.

I'll start.

Did you know Agnes Morehead was gay? Yes folks, Endora on Bewitched was a big ole Les! Think of that next time your watching TV Land.

Who's Next?

Pretty much weren't alot of the people on Bewitched gay - i.e Dr. Bombay and Uncle Arther, Darren #2...

Tinky
03-16-2006, 08:20 AM
Endora.... ?? :scared1: wow... never heard that one.

SteeleTig
03-16-2006, 09:37 AM
Kate "The Great" Hepburn also fancied girls... as well as men.

jekajekalynn
03-16-2006, 12:03 PM
This is the first time I've heard this. Wikipedia and a couple other sources cite 1978 as the first use of the rainbow flag as a gay pride flag (rainbow flags have represented several social movements over time). More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_flag

There also a short article at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/scotts/bulgarians/rainbow-flag.html that discusses the origin of the rainbow flag as a gay pride flag.


Thanks for the link. :wave2: I had always heard the myth that the flag derived from "friends of Dorothy" . To which, it incorporates the stereotype thing that gay men love Judy Garland (I don't know if this is true or not, so please excuse my ignorance) , hense the rainbow (from Wizard of Oz,,, "somewhere over the rainbow."

majortom
03-19-2006, 11:36 AM
SeattleRedBear...thanks for clarifying this for me...since I had only heard this once I really did want to know if it was true. I found the articles interesting...especially the one from wikipedia.

Thanks again!

Randy Shilt's book Conduct Unbecoming tells about Gilbert Baker's creation of the Freedom Flag (Baker was an Army Draftee). Interesting reading.

/carmi