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ShellyMouse
02-20-2006, 11:08 AM
i just called dd, the cm checked with her supervisor. she says there are NO changes being made to the ddp. she said whatever you booked your plan to be, thats what it will be.
1 ts w/dessert
1 cs w/ dessert
1 snack.

shoooooo, that was a close one....i was already having nightmares thinking i wouldn't get my choc cake with choc frosting!! :mad:

deelam
02-20-2006, 11:10 AM
GOOD NEWS!!! I want my desert!

waltdisneyworlddreamer
02-20-2006, 11:12 AM
:banana: :woohoo: :banana:

Thanks for the info!

jjohnson
02-20-2006, 11:12 AM
Thanks. I'm on hold for a supervisor in dining to confirm this too.

wdwfamilyinIL
02-20-2006, 11:16 AM
Between this and waiting for the MGM character news I am on a roller coaster, or it seems to be. Thanks for calling, I too want my desert on vacation.

angel's momma
02-20-2006, 11:17 AM
Thanks for calling ShellyMouse. :)

About the CM's comment that "whatever you booked your plan to be, that's what it will be" - wdw already showed that that's not necessarily the case: last Oct. they eliminated the dessert with breakfast, and it had been included when people booked the plan.

Pedler
02-20-2006, 11:20 AM
Yet another dinning plan change rumor bites the dust.

jjohnson
02-20-2006, 11:20 AM
Just got off the phone & she's confirming what ShellyMouse said that it's absolutely untrue. I guess time will tell. Most of the time you find out information on the boards first.

TDC Nala
02-20-2006, 11:21 AM
The confirmation helps - but they could still change at any time, as they did when they removed the ability to get a dessert for breakfast. That one sort of makes sense - who orders a dessert with breakfast? Does any restaurant offer a dessert with breakfast or were dining plan users showing up for breakfast and demanding their dessert? I can actually see them seeking to cut costs by substituting a snack credit for TS dessert. (If it does happen, and they are indeed implementing such a change to cut costs, they won't allow snack credits to be used for TS dessert. If it's not to cut costs and is to provide flexibility as to where and when you eat dessert, they will allow TS dessert for a snack credit.)

wdwfamilyinIL
02-20-2006, 11:36 AM
If they are actually planning on changing the plan in April, I could see why they are not telling anyone now. Just think how many people are going to book a vacation between now and then. If they posted it now, it could change people's minds about getting the plan. I know we are really hoping that it doesn't change.

bicker
02-20-2006, 12:09 PM
That's very true, IL... If the changes are going to be implemented in April, they'll probably update the information CMs have to give out to guests just beforehand. The only way to ensure that you won't be subject to any changes in the dining plan is to not purchase it.

Sleeping Jedi Beauty
02-20-2006, 12:15 PM
There's already frustration in my family about the change to CRT. If this change happens, there could be anger especially since we were told that by paying for it in January, we protected ourselves against any price increases before the trip happens.

sammie01
02-20-2006, 12:21 PM
Hmmmmm. this sounds really interesting, if I am reading this correctly,
this means that we could book crt for just one credit from our dinning
plan, as we booked in Sept. 2005 for Dec. 2006 and crt was only one
credit at the time of booking, is this correct or not.

DeterminedOne
02-20-2006, 12:23 PM
Just curious - would people really cancel the dining plan over a change like this? (If it were true) It doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Am I missing something?

bicker
02-20-2006, 12:29 PM
It doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Am I missing something? I think it all comes down to aversion to change. Generally, we vacationers want to be able to make our reservations, plan our trip, and then have everything happen as we expected it to. Folks don't like flight schedule changes. Folks don't like how hurricanes disrupt things. Folks don't like when prices go up, or specifics of any sort change. Unfortunately, the only way to minimize surprises like those is with more money, which is pretty-much the opposite of what we vacationers typically want. :confused3

Sleeping Jedi Beauty
02-20-2006, 01:09 PM
Hmmmmm. this sounds really interesting, if I am reading this correctly,
this means that we could book crt for just one credit from our dinning
plan, as we booked in Sept. 2005 for Dec. 2006 and crt was only one
credit at the time of booking, is this correct or not.

That's what we wanted to find out, but it looks like a no go. The reason why people are upset about the removal of dessert for an extra snack credit is becuase they bought the plan based in part because dessert came with TS. A $2-3 snack extra snack is not equal in value to a $5-7 dessert. Plus, there is some frustration and anger because we paid for the dining plan based on what it offered at the time. To change it now is deceptive and misleading.

MOMOFMNM
02-20-2006, 01:14 PM
the character meals and buffets would still have deserts!! :cool1:

TDC Nala
02-20-2006, 01:20 PM
I'm not canceling it. But I was sort of looking forward to trying some desserts. It is not a done deal, nothing's been confirmed, and since I'm not cancelling it, why worry. But it's interesting to speculate about changes.

DeterminedOne
02-20-2006, 02:27 PM
That's what we wanted to find out, but it looks like a no go. The reason why people are upset about the removal of dessert for an extra snack credit is becuase they bought the plan based in part because dessert came with TS. A $2-3 snack extra snack is not equal in value to a $5-7 dessert. Plus, there is some frustration and anger because we paid for the dining plan based on what it offered at the time. To change it now is deceptive and misleading.

So why not order a more expensive appetizer or entree. The dining plan is $37.99 per day, correct? So as long as you spend at least that much each day you're getting your money's worth. I don't understand how a dessert verses a snack makes that much of a difference since there's a way to make up the cost difference with the other food.

bicker
02-20-2006, 02:48 PM
Well that really goes to a big problem with the dining plan; the fact that many folks feel driven to "get their money's worth" as if it were a zero-sum game. That's one reason why my wife's really pushing me to stop considering it for next year. It either is worth it just for what it is (two meals and a snack each day) or its not. The details (appetizer included or not; dessert included or not; certain menu items excluded or not) shouldn't matter enough to make a difference, and if they do then we're better off not purchasing the dining plan.

Regardless, my wife figures that with the plan I'd be driven to eat things that I wouldn't normally eat, just because I was brought up to focus on the money instead of focusing on the quality of the experience. Wife knows best. We'll probably steer clear of this quagmire.

EmmaAndQuinnsMommy
02-20-2006, 02:56 PM
For us, this would definitely make us upset as this was a major deciding factor in the dining plan for us. We are vegetarian, so a lot of the time there isn't much for us to get, we won't get appetizers at times etc but could still be okay if we had a dessert. If this happens, will I be able to delete this from my reservation? My 45 day mark is March 21 ... which is when my final payment is due. I think AAA would charge me a change fee too. That would not make me happy! I hope it just isn't going to change at all since we purchased it based on what was stated at the time.

bicker
02-20-2006, 02:58 PM
Generally, if some add-on's details change substantially, Disney has been pretty lenient about providing refunds (as long as you haven't actually used it yet, of course :)). The only time you could get into trouble with something like this is if the add-on was a requirement for some other discount you still want to take advantage of.

Gillian
02-20-2006, 03:16 PM
Regardless, my wife figures that with the plan I'd be driven to eat things that I wouldn't normally eat, just because I was brought up to focus on the money instead of focusing on the quality of the experience. Wife knows best. We'll probably steer clear of this quagmire.She sounds like a smart woman. :)

I am enjoying planning our meals, but sometimes I think that we might be better off just ordering what we want and paying for what it costs. If DD wasn't free but a big eater, we would think about not adding it.

maggiew
02-20-2006, 03:22 PM
Just curious - would people really cancel the dining plan over a change like this? (If it were true) It doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Am I missing something?

Well, it might make a difference for our family. We were on the fence about getting it or not. My two girls are 14 and 11, so they are "adults" for dining purposes. My girls could probably share a childs counter service meal and be full. Anyway, I kind of added up what I thought we would order with no plan and what we would order with the plan. It came out to be a wash - no big difference. So, I decided to go with the plan and eat at places we normally do not go because of the cost. For example, we normally eat at "order of the menu" type places so that we can share. We tend to avoid places like Garden Grill (set price places) because I can't see paying $27.99 per girl. There is no way they can eat anywhere near enough to justify the price. But I was planning on trying a few new places this trip, and counting in the cost of any desserts we would order made us save money. If you include a snack instead of dessert, we would probably break even again. So, I would rather have the flexibility of no plan if that's the case. PLus I could pay as we go rather than have to pay 45 days ahead.

We are not trying to order the most expensive items and MAXIMIZE the plan, we just want to at least get out what we paid. With my 2 "adult" children, dessert or no dessert might make a difference.

Maggie

Rock'n Robin
02-20-2006, 03:41 PM
I totally agree. My DDs are also 11 and 14 when we travel this year. They can't eat the most expensive menu items like huge steaks, but they really enjoy desserts. It's not an issue for the 8 year old DS, but the beauty of this thing in our eyes was getting to eat whatever on the menu, plus tax and tip, and have it paid for before we leave, not still getting begged for desserts.
Robin M.

Letsbgoofy
02-21-2006, 06:55 AM
As much as I enjoyed the desserts on the DP, I can't say that this change would bother me. We were really too full to eat them with dinner, and took them with us most meals. I'm sure they lost some of their taste being eaten the next morning.

I would love it if they changed the CS dessert to another snack - I don't think we had a decent one all week!

maggiew
02-22-2006, 11:24 PM
Well, to get around the fact of having "too much food" and "being too full to eat the dessert anyway" we were planning on sharing a few meals. I plan to share 3 meals at Coral Reef (for the 4 of us - 2 DDS 14 & 11) and share 3 meals at Chefs de France. That would provide enough food for us and leave us with 2 extra credits that we plan to use at Nine Dragons for lunch. If we are still hungry after sharing (which I do not think we will be), we could just get 1 or 2 CS (depending on how hungry) to get full. I do not expect that to happen though based on our prior experience. We used to share 2 of the Vacation Kingdom lunch vouchers when they were available and were full every time. But now the DDs are a little older, I thought we would try the 3 meals to share instead of 2. So in this case, the desserts WILL play a big role since we are sharing.

Maggie

Cinderella
02-23-2006, 12:35 AM
Not good news for me - i put on too much weight on our trips to begin with. :worried:

bicker
02-23-2006, 03:56 AM
Well, to get around the fact of having "too much food" and "being too full to eat the dessert anyway" we were planning on sharing a few meals.I suspect that if there was any truth to this rumor, it was based on this.

pinchy
02-23-2006, 04:41 AM
I would be reasonably content if they dropped desserts and included a breakfast meal instead

but I think I'd rather keep the desserts

:teeth:

bicker
02-23-2006, 04:48 AM
As I mentioned a few days ago, my wife is actively discouraging me from considering the dining plan. I think I've hit on the main reaon why she feels it just isn't worth the bother: What we want is a one-TS per day dining plan. We really don't need Disney to smooth-over our purchases of burgers-and-fries and Mickey bars. :rolleyes2 All we really need is a week-long prix fix for dinner.