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tiggeroo13
01-26-2006, 12:10 PM
HI, I hope this is not offensive to anyone as I am very gay accepting but very gay ignorant. Hopefully my question that is very innocent yet non important isn't offensive. I am wondering if Winnie the Pooh is used as a gay symbol like the rainbow? I have a friend in New York who is gay and I wanted to know. Thanks in advance.

Heather

donald...really
01-26-2006, 01:30 PM
No, not that I am aware of. I used to wear a small button that had a picture on it of Winnie the Pooh and Piglet walking and holding hands, as a subtle gay reference, but I don't think he has been officially adopted as a gay symbol.

And no, that questoin isn't offensive to gay people. It might be offensive to closed minded Winnie the Pooh fans, though ;)

SeattleRedBear
01-26-2006, 02:03 PM
I don't think the GLBT community has identified any specific Disney characters as being "gay". We let the religious right do that as they're very good about identifying anything GAY (think Tinkie-Winkie or Sponge Bob Squarepants). I would never have given Teletubbies a second look if it hadn't have been for Reverend Falwell (but I recently becoming the proud owner of a Tinkie-Winkie key chain).

LovePug
01-26-2006, 04:58 PM
I would never have given Teletubbies a second look if it hadn't have been for Reverend Falwell (but I recently becoming the proud owner of a Tinkie-Winkie key chain).

:rotfl2:

iankh
01-26-2006, 05:32 PM
I have one or two friend who really like Pooh, but that's because they're bears. A bear is a guy who is hairy, has a beard and well, bearish or teddy-bearish.

Kevin&Randall
01-26-2006, 06:35 PM
No, not that I am aware of. I used to wear a small button that had a picture on it of Winnie the Pooh and Piglet walking and holding hands,

Well, maybe we should officially adopt one. Of course, of the thousands of characters out there, which one to choose?

Cobra Bubbles? :teeth:

Tarzan? (yes please! :woohoo: )

The cute Seahorse in Little Mermaid with the frilly collar.

Any other ideas?

Randall

:earsboy:

Rence
01-26-2006, 07:38 PM
Cruella D'ville -- Anyone who puts fashion above all else, can't be all bad.

OrlandoMike
01-26-2006, 08:02 PM
Cruella for sure!

My God the coat! The cigarette! The purse! The Limmo!


DAHHHHHLING!


And Viki, pretty sure she would be happy to suck down one of your dirty martini's!

Saxton
01-26-2006, 09:00 PM
Cruella for sure!

My God the coat! The cigarette! The purse! The Limmo!


DAHHHHHLING!


And Viki, pretty sure she would be happy to suck down one of your dirty martini's!

But she's so mean to cute little puppies!! Couldn't we pick someone with both a sense of style and a kind personality? Somehow the Fairy Godmother seems appropriate ... ok, maybe the dress is a bit dated but she's definitely nice.

buckylarue
01-26-2006, 09:02 PM
Chip and Dale...those 2 guys have been living together for FAR too long to not be a couple! :rainbow:

Empare
01-26-2006, 10:32 PM
OMG you guys are too funny! :rotfl2: Speaking of Chip and Dale do you guys remember Gadget from the Rescue Rangers TV show? I was envious of her when I was young. She could build anything and always kept a smile. She would be my mascot!

iankh
01-27-2006, 06:05 AM
I wonder if any has a list of the "fey" and "tom boy" characters?

iankh
01-27-2006, 06:06 AM
Also, now Bugs Bunny! Now there was a guy that knew how to do drag!

tiggeroo13
01-27-2006, 05:25 PM
Well, I am glad that I didn't offend anyone with this question and now you guys are totally crackin' me up! Thanks for the input! If one ever officially gets adopted let me know. I would love to get my friend something! Thanks again!

SeattleRedBear
01-27-2006, 07:17 PM
I agree with everything said. Bugs does the best Drag by a Straight Cartoon I've ever seen. Cruella is the epitome of venemous style and high fashion. Chip & Dale would be my choice for best Gay Cartoon Couple (although the one with the red nose has an obvious addiction problem). And yes, in terms of role models, any Disney villian would probably not be a good choice.

However, in my opinion, the award for BEST DISNEY DRAG QUEEN has got to go to:



URSULA!!!!!

The woman just has it ALL!!! She's seen it all...done it all...and wants it all back! She's absolutely Shakespearean tragic! And with that overwhelming desire to do anything to get Ariel's voice so that once again SHE can be the Diva that she once was! She's just so Copacabana Donna Summer Last Dance Divine Graceful Butch Joan Crawford that I JUST CAN'T STAND IT!!! How can you NOT think she's gay?! I don't care whether she prefers women, men or eels...she's GAY!

Kevin&Randall
01-27-2006, 07:22 PM
Chip & Dale would be my choice for best Gay Cartoon Couple (although the one with the red nose has an obvious addiction problem).

Well, I'm not sure they are "cartoon" but my choice for best couple would be Bert & Ernie from Sesame Street fame. Granted, they slept in separate beds, but so did Lucy and Ricky and they had a child.

Randall

:earsboy:

ohhhh... top!

SeattleRedBear
01-27-2006, 07:26 PM
Well, I'm not sure they are "cartoon" but my choice for best couple would be Bert & Ernie from Sesame Street fame. Granted, they slept in separate beds, but so did Lucy and Ricky and they had a child.
Actually, didn't the Religious Right have a problem with Bert & Ernie at some point? I have a vague memory it was part of the effort to pull funding from public television.

momto3gr8boys
01-28-2006, 08:38 PM
Actually, didn't the Religious Right have a problem with Bert & Ernie at some point? I have a vague memory it was part of the effort to pull funding from public television.

yeah, i seem to remember something about that as well. and when they were considering the Ernie having AIDS storyline, the right wingers nearly had a stroke.

on a side note...i couldn't help noticing the love of pugs on this thread in several people's sig lines...just wanted to share a pic of mine:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/cooksalot4970/gaypug.jpg

Uuaww
01-28-2006, 10:15 PM
no it wasn't ernie, http://snopes.com/radiotv/tv/aidsmupp.htm its a character in Sesame Street in South Africa, who is HIV+ it is a bigger problem over there, so this isn't as much as a shock.

FergieTCat
01-31-2006, 10:48 AM
How about Tigger? Ever notice how he's always all over Winnie the Pooh??

Side note: My friend's husband wanted to have a wedding cake topper with both Pooh and Tigger until my friend pointed out that they are both males. Her husband quickly changed his mind. Poohback Mountain anyone?

pezpam
01-31-2006, 02:16 PM
Pooh tends to be a reference for many of us who are....ummm... Pleasingly Plump. As in "If I am Pooh-sized, can I ride Ride X?" :)

Tigger may be all over everyone, but Rabbit has to be the gay neighbor of the Hundred Acre Woods.

And Chip and Dale? I mean, really! Say their names fast and what do you get? Buff male strippers, anyone? Hellloooooo.

buckylarue
01-31-2006, 04:33 PM
The Chip and Dale Dancers!
http://gatosinternational.com/DisPics/chipdale3b.jpg

Azure
01-31-2006, 05:38 PM
I think that donald and mickey would make a good couple!

tiggeroo13
01-31-2006, 07:44 PM
Okay, so I am still laughing my guts out but I have to say enough on the religious right...Okay, I am ducking for cover. I am (still ducking) a conservative and religious, but I don't think bert and ernie being gay threatens me at all! Except of course, I always had a crush on Ernie, LOL! I think "can't we all just get along" and not pull politics into it? Okay, now that was funny! Anyways, just wanted to let you know that a religious right thinks all of you are great! And gosh darn it, people like me! (SNL)

irishbosoxfan
01-31-2006, 07:56 PM
OK It's official I love you guys!!-I don't think I've laughed so much while reading any other threads-really enjoyed the photo of Chip and Dale dancing.I came here to learn about all things Disney for my familys first trip later this year--Thanks for brightening my reading experience!!! :love: Debby

Azure
01-31-2006, 08:07 PM
This is a cool thread! You all rock!

HaleyB
01-31-2006, 08:58 PM
This is the funniest thread I have run across in a long time.

Thank you for reminding me of my favorite puppets, Ernie and Bert. I love the episode where Ernie wakes Bert up over and over again and sings him the "I am messy. Your not messy. But I am messy and that's ok..." song. OK shareing too much. Going now.

iankh
01-31-2006, 09:26 PM
Sorry folks. I know that this tends to be a Disney board, but I still have to insist that Bugs beats everyone!

http://www.ozhasspoken.com/images/southernfriedrabbit.jpg http://www.ozhasspoken.com/images/watereveryhare.jpg http://www.ozhasspoken.com/images/rabbitofseville1.jpg http://www.ozhasspoken.com/images/frigidhare1.jpg http://www.ozhasspoken.com/images/haretrigger.jpg http://www.ozhasspoken.com/images/hairraisinghare.jpg

Move over Arial! http://www.ozhasspoken.com/images/fromharetoeternity.jpg


By the way, Bugs himself has appeared in some form of Drag in 47 films. Now there's a factoid!

http://www.ozhasspoken.com/images/elmerspetrabbit.jpg

bubie2.5
02-01-2006, 05:56 AM
:lmao:

sara74
02-01-2006, 09:44 AM
Came over to look for a thread that I thought was moved from the families board and stayed for the laughs! You are a great bunch! Way more fun than the debates on the families board.
:thumbsup2
BTW my vote (if I can have one) is for Bert and Ernie. Those two bicker way too much to not be a couple! And still together after all these years!

FergieTCat
02-01-2006, 10:40 AM
I am pretty sure my cat is gay. She is constantly hitting on me, and is the dominant one in our relationship (illegal in 49 states, except for West Virginia, where it is not only legal but encouraged. Especially with livestock.) If you look at her in the right light, she is a dead ringer for Rosie O'Donnell. :cool1:


It threatens me because I can never look at an animal without thinking about you all saying that it's gay. Look nothing is an icon that people are gay NOTHING!

Empare
02-01-2006, 06:32 PM
Quote from my favorite Bugs Bunny cartoon: What's Opera Doc...

(Elmer): Oh Brumhilda, your so lovely
(Bugs): Yes I know it, I can't help it.
(E): Oh Brumhilda beeee my wuv!

(E) Return my love, a longing burns deep inside me
(B) Return my love, I want you always beside me
(E) A love like ours must be
(B) Made for you and for me
(B&E) Return, won't you return my love, for my love is yours

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3696/2whatsoperagiclee1ml.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

::sigh:: I LOVE Bugs Bunny!

Grammyof2
02-01-2006, 07:20 PM
This thread is :rotfl2: :rotfl: :lmao:

Bugs Bunny - hands down. Thanks for pointing it out. :rolleyes1

OrlandoMike
02-01-2006, 10:49 PM
OK so we have bugs for drag queen.....

Chip and Dale for a couple, second to Bert and Ernie........

And Cruella for "boy" hag.....

Any others?

There has to be a lesbian character out there!! :cheer2:

FergieTCat
02-02-2006, 10:52 AM
How about Peppermint Pattie? Marcie always calls her "Sir."

tiggeroo13
02-02-2006, 03:49 PM
My cartoon brain has left me but wasn't there a smurf (maybe the painter, artist) or something that could fit into our gay icon? I thought so and of course Gargoymel sp? in his black dress certainly liked the giant a little too much. Well, if you can think of the smurf... :confused3

Kevin&Randall
02-02-2006, 07:05 PM
My cartoon brain has left me but wasn't there a smurf (maybe the painter, artist) or something that could fit into our gay icon? I thought so and of course Gargoymel sp? in his black dress certainly liked the giant a little too much. Well, if you can think of the smurf... :confused3

There are over 100 Smurfs - and many could be a mascot or icon. But I think you are referencing "Vanity Smurf" who seemed a bit effeminate, and enjoyed wearing a flower in his hat.

"Smurfette" was the token female in this all male bastion of tiny blue creatures. With a little imagination, most of us can probably spin one of these names into our own mascot:

Papa Smurf
Tailor Smurf
Brainy Smurf
Baker Smurf
Handy Smurf
Clumsy Smurf

Randall

tiggeroo13
02-02-2006, 07:25 PM
Thank you Randall, you are totally right. It was probably Vanity smurf, thanks for taking me back to the early 80's.

Heather

Empare
02-03-2006, 06:07 PM
Thank you Randall, you are totally right. It was probably Vanity smurf, thanks for taking me back to the early 80's.

Heather

Here's a pic of Vanity for everyone out there. :rotfl2:
I forgot how um... "vain" he was.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2628/vanitysmurf0wf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

tiggeroo13
02-06-2006, 07:24 PM
Thanks, takes me back to the old days. :cool1:

arielsleepingbeauty
02-06-2006, 07:49 PM
I agree with everything said. Bugs does the best Drag by a Straight Cartoon I've ever seen. Cruella is the epitome of venemous style and high fashion. Chip & Dale would be my choice for best Gay Cartoon Couple (although the one with the red nose has an obvious addiction problem). And yes, in terms of role models, any Disney villian would probably not be a good choice.

However, in my opinion, the award for BEST DISNEY DRAG QUEEN has got to go to:



URSULA!!!!!

The woman just has it ALL!!! She's seen it all...done it all...and wants it all back! She's absolutely Shakespearean tragic! And with that overwhelming desire to do anything to get Ariel's voice so that once again SHE can be the Diva that she once was! She's just so Copacabana Donna Summer Last Dance Divine Graceful Butch Joan Crawford that I JUST CAN'T STAND IT!!! How can you NOT think she's gay?! I don't care whether she prefers women, men or eels...she's GAY!

I love it!!! This is too Funny! My daughter loves Ariel and now i will never ever watch it the same way again!!!

donald...really
02-06-2006, 09:17 PM
You do know that Ursula was based on the diva drag queen Divine, don't you? Check it out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_(Glen_Milstead)

Here is an excerpt (did I spell that correctly?):

Harris Glenn Milstead (October 19, 1945 March 7, 1988) was better known by his drag persona Divine. Milstead starred in a number of films and was part of the regular cast known as the Dreamlanders. The Dreamlanders appeared in many of John Waters' earlier works such as Pink Flamingos, Female Trouble, Polyester, and Hairspray. Besides these roles, Milstead was the inspiration for the appearance of Ursula, the half-octopus villain from Disney's 1989 animated movie The Little Mermaid.

Here's a pic from the article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Divine.glenn.milstead-dogs.jpg

arielsleepingbeauty
02-07-2006, 06:40 AM
I had no idea Divine was, but now that you say it, I definately can see it. I loved the movie hairspray. I can't believe i never made the connection before. Now i can show my daughter who Ursula was modeled after.
Thanks for the link!