OT: Voter "Exit Poll"

[Mortlives]

So, now that the election is over, if you feel like sharing, who'd you vote for? I think it would be interesting to see what sort of political spectrum we run.

Sorry about the miss-spelling of Bloc Quebecois. I can't find a way to fix it.

[sean-1966]

Liberal, the whole family is Liberal. My Uncle won his riding. I think it's his fifth term.

[tone.def]

I voted NDP for Olivia Chow - the best candidate in my eyes for our riding. I did not vote strategically to keep the Liberals in power, although I wish they had retained it.

Personally, I'm not so sure that we need a government change in leading parties with our economy doing so well, our dollar being so high and our unemployment rate being the lowest in 30 years, but I think a changing of the guard was in order, fresh, un-tainted blood, you know?

I'm willing to give Harper a chance, but if the CBC hands me a lay off notice in a couple months because he personally cancels programming like he said he was going to do in the last election, I'll be pretty mad. I don't think slashing us is on his top priority list though...

[CharlesTD]

DW voted NDP and I spoiled my ballott.

[Scratch42]

I voted NDP!

I figured the other two parties have had their chance to you know what to us, why not give them a chance!

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

janet

[Mortlives]

DW voted NDP and I spoiled my ballott.

Some would say I spoiled mine as well... :thumbsup2 I noticed your mention of spoiled ballots on the other thread. It used to be, before Trudeau got rid of it, that you could walk up to your returning officer and say "I refuse my ballot", and they would count those as refused, thus differentiating the people who couldn't figure out how to vote from those who couldn't find anyone worth voting for.

[digskat]

NDP. couldn't get over the Harris nightmare, couldn't trust Martin. Want to maintain medi-care. Figured minority would be safest bet.

[CharlesTD]

Some would say I spoiled mine as well... :thumbsup2 I noticed your mention of spoiled ballots on the other thread. It used to be, before Trudeau got rid of it, that you could walk up to your returning officer and say "I refuse my ballot", and they would count those as refused, thus differentiating the people who couldn't figure out how to vote from those who couldn't find anyone worth voting for.


My mom worked the polls this year and she was told that all ballotts were counted and spoiled ballotts were even counted and noted. I even signed my name to my ballott along with teh explanation I wrote on teh back of it.

[Apothecary]

Voted NDP. Didn't help much...our candidate finished 3rd. But, that's not always the point, is it?

[BitsnBearsMom]

I voted :smickey: ::MickeyMo MICKEY MOUSE!!

I figured he could do a better job then any of those other clowns!! :rotfl:

[basas]

Entire family voted Conservative (must be from the West, huh? ;) ). Happy to see a new government in this country- a step in the 'right' direction finally (double meaning!)

[CharlesTD]

Entire family voted Conservative (must be from the West, huh? ;) ). Happy to see a new government in this country- a step in the 'right' direction finally (double meaning!)


You know I used to be a big conservative supporter until the merger with the Alliance/reform that and the fact that Harper wants to open the floor to free vote on same sex marriage and a number of other issues that should be left well enough alone IMHO.

[Skywalker]

Some would say I spoiled mine as well... :thumbsup2 I

So, who did you vote for?

Me, I voted blue blue blue. Stephen Harper all the way.

Harper on election night -------> :dancer:

[jinglesmountjoy]

I voted NDP!

I figured the other two parties have had their chance to you know what to us, why not give them a chance!

janet

Ahhhhh....how easily we forget BOB RAE. I love what the NDP stand for (share the wealth, we're all one happy family...) but our society is not even close to being ready for that...too many freeloaders.

I went Conservative because he WON'T revisit same sex and if he did, it would be a free vote...which is what is should have been in the first place (democracy). The free vote would overwhelmingly be in favour of same-sex as it should be anyway so it's really a non-issue for me.

I'm not married to any one party, I vote for the 'best platform' and Harper has really pulled together this party and dropped the dead wood. Lookout...you might actually like this guy.

I think he needs to do something about the rising dollar. Our exports are getting killed and the loonie needs to hover around $0.72 cents to give some balance to our economy.

My #1 reason is simply this...
Canada is really just one BIG company and we are the shareholders. As a shareholder, I expect the CEO, CFO, COO (PM and cabinet members) and other board members to run my company as best they can and give me a decent return on my investment (taxes). Above all, I expect honesty and like any other company, theft is a zero-tolerance issue.

When I find out that the CFO has been filtering money to his 'family' through UNBELIEVABLY INFLATED goods and services costs (ie. $1500 cpu's purchased at $10,000 ea), I expect answers from my CEO (previous CFO). If he claims no knowledge of the theft, he is either untruthful and therefore a theif himself or he's a poor leader for not having a handle on my company. Not to mention, a bad judge of character for his cabinet choices.

Sorry for the verbose answer.

[tone.def]

Ahhhhh....how easily we forget BOB RAE. I love what the NDP stand for (share the wealth, we're all one happy family...) but our society is not even close to being ready for that...too many freeloaders.

Um... Bob Rae was a provincial politician.

Can you blame Harper for MIKE HARRIS (former Progressive Conservative Ontario Premier) slashing and burning all spending and funding and throwing metally ill people out on the streets instead of making sure they were taking care of? If you want to know what I'm talking about, visit Queen and King Street between Jamieson to Bathurst. You can find former Queen West Mental Health patients begging for change and chasing you down the street and running out into traffic.

Can we blame Paul Martin for GORDON CAMPBELL's (Liberal B.C. premier) drunk driving fiasco in Maui?

No... Let's differentiate here.



My #1 reason is simply this...
Canada is really just one BIG company and we are the shareholders. As a shareholder, I expect the CEO, CFO, COO (PM and cabinet members) and other board members to run my company as best they can and give me a decent return on my investment (taxes). Above all, I expect honesty and like any other company, theft is a zero-tolerance issue.

When I find out that the CFO has been filtering money to his 'family' through UNBELIEVABLY INFLATED goods and services costs (ie. $1500 cpu's purchased at $10,000 ea), I expect answers from my CEO (previous CFO). If he claims no knowledge of the theft, he is either untruthful and therefore a theif himself or he's a poor leader for not having a handle on my company. Not to mention, a bad judge of character for his cabinet choices.

Sorry for the verbose answer.


How quickly the Mulroney years have been forgotten... Losing a cabinet minister each year of his reign due to wrongdoings?

Tunagate anyone?

[jinglesmountjoy]

Um... Bob Rae was a provincial politician...

Can we blame Paul Martin for GORDON CAMPBELL's (Liberal B.C. premier) drunk driving fiasco in Maui?

No... Let's differentiate here.

How quickly the Mulroney years have been forgotten... Losing a cabinet minister each year of his reign due to wrongdoings?

Tunagate anyone?

Regarding Bob...the point was more, 'this is the most recent example of NDP politics (core values) we have to go on' and that was a disaster (idealogically speaking...utopia, I love it. But practically speaking... :eek: )

Regarding my 'Company Policies' and 'Mulroney years'...
...I helped to remove him and I'll help to remove Harper if promises aren't kept. I'm simply tired of Canadians turning the other cheek and just taking it. Chretien was arguably, a borderlilne fascist...yet we did nothing and invited him to a second term (although, the options were limited at that time with the Alliance party still crawling out of the womb).

As this isn't a debate, I'll stop there and not get into my feelings on Mike Harris :cheer2: . Believe it or not, I do care for less fortunate people. I'm an active member in a local charity that looks out for those forgotten in the bureaucracy of larger charitable organizations.

I'll just say this is a different party that still retains it core values but with a different leader who will give this party a bit of a progressive edge. I really think we're going to like this guy. He's going to surprise a lot of people.

Incidentally, I take no offence to anyone's political stripe nor to what they post here. It's all just good conversation and an exchange of ideas. Regardless of your political views there is one thing you can do to help make Canada a better place...arm yourself with knowledge. Know the issues and more importantly, follow our leaders all year long and keep current. People are reluctant to lie, misquote or mislead if they think they'll get caught and politicians are just people.

[declansdad]

As far as the leaders go


Martin is old and tired, was saddled with the chretien baggage

Harper just scares me (I guess we will see if a leopard can changes its spots)

Layton is like a used-car salesman (to borrow a phrase)


I think you need to vote for the person in the riding. In my case it was the Liberal candidate

[MikeJ]

I voted Green. Our family are long-time Liberal supporters, but I'd had enough and could not hold my nose long enough to vote for them (even though we still have a Liberal MP :( ). I cannot vote NDP as I believe they would push this country backwards with their tax and spend strategies. And although I think Harper's handlers have done a really good job of making him seem human, I still don't trust the party with it's intolerant (i.e. Reform) roots. (And I can say that without prejudice as a transplanted Westerner.)

I took the time to read the Green platform on their website, and there is much there that I like (and some that I don't). I tend to be a fiscal conservative but hold to many liberal social policies - much in line with Green's platform. Now I would never presume to think they would ever form a government, but for each vote they receive the get the $1.75 in funding from the government which will help to spread the message. After all, there have been many social policies implemented in this country which were started by parties other than those ruling the federal roost.

See what you can get for $0.02 these days. ;)

- Mike

[PhotobearSam]

Voted Blue even though Harper scares me but I could not vote for the red thieves. NDP here had no shot...My riding stayed RED as always...We never get anything here because no one bothers to try to sway us for our vote because we have been red for over 50 years... :furious:


How many people think the Conservatives would have won more seats if Peter McKay would have been the leader???

I would have campaigned for him... :surfweb:

[damo]

Voted Blue even though Harper scares me but I could not vote for the red thieves. NDP here had no shot...My riding stayed RED as always...We never get anything here because no one bothers to try to sway us for our vote because we have been red for over 50 years... :furious:


How many people think the Conservatives would have won more seats if Peter McKay would have been the leader???

I would have campaigned for him... :surfweb:

Peter MacKay is definitely a step in the right direction. I wonder how many decades it will be before he can take over?

[Azure]

I don't like the conservatives already! They promised to lower our taxes but no...

[tone.def]

How many people think the Conservatives would have won more seats if Peter McKay would have been the leader???

I would have campaigned for him... :surfweb:

I think we'd have a very different country if that was the case!!!

[jinglesmountjoy]

I don't like the conservatives already! They promised to lower our taxes but no...

Are you going to finish that thought?

Also, there was a book published about Stephen Harper, 'Stephen Harper And The Future Of Canada', written by William Johnson and published last April. Johnson has been on the radio of late and appears to be fairly unbiased based on his opinions that don't seem to favour any one party. He made some very valid points. In 1993, as a member of the Alliance party, Harper stated that his party would have our deficit down to $0 in three years, you may remember it... '0 in 3' policy. At that time he was dismissed because nobody wanted our social/heath programs 'slashed and burned'.

Fast forward a few years later (1995) and the Liberals took the same '0 in 3' policy and reduced our deficit to 0 in three years...while cutting $3 billion more than Harper proposed in 1993.

'He shows that Harper is a sophisticated political operative, far more complex and intellectual than the right-wing Republican image that has been created for him.

This is a serious, objective political biography, short on gossip but long on clear discussion of Harper’s political views – and how he got them. Johnson’s message? Don’t underestimate this man'.

Who's upset about the Elections Canada 'scandal'? Non-citizens voting?? One U of T student actually went in to see if he could get a ballot to vote and was given one without question...he was American!! He spoiled the ballot and said he was just making a point. This should get really interesting.

What a great thread!!!!!!!!

[Yzma and Kronk]

Excellent - a somewhat headed political thread.......on the Canadian Board!! :thumbsup2

I voted conservative.

However, I admit I'm one that didn't really investigate all the parties platforms.

Having just spent the last four years in the Southern US - y'all can see where I lead towards......


One question - did anyone see the numbers of the percentage of people who voted??

[CharlesTD]

The Liberals lowered personal income tax and the conservatives are going to raise it back to where it was or possibly higher white cutting the GST oh boy a cut in the GST will do squat for you. As Harper said though it will save a family about 500 dollars on a new car. Sou our income tax will cost us thousands and the tax cut will save us pennies LOL. I can't wait till he tries to push through on teh same sex marriage and the privatization with healthcare if he even dares try it with a minority government. Did anyone notice how our dollar dropped directly after they were elected it is regaining now but that is something we should look at in the coming months if we start to get to cozy to the US IMHO. Nothing against the US but it could turn around to bite us in teh rear end.

[mejaie]

Lets see the gun registry that is working so well in Toronto was supposed to cost 5 million. In the end which has not ended yet, it would be like planning to spend 5,000 on a trip to Disney and then getting a bill for 1,000,000. :confused3

1 billion lost in HRDC???? :confused:

Another couple of hundred million in sponsorship. pirate:

And these are the ones we know about.

Having NDP governments here in Manitoba no thanks, one little tidbit if you are in construction and want to work on the floodway expansion project you MUST join a union. So much for freedom of choice. :scratchin

And people think Harper is scary! pixiedust:


When there is that kind of mismanagement it is a duty as a citizen to throw them out on their ear and let them know they cannot get away with it. For those who bring up Mulroney, he did get thrown out by a guy who said he would scrap the GST, guess he forgot to tell all the businesses in the country. :santa:


Finally why can't there be more free votes, it works here on the boards. :surfweb:


Disclaimer:
The expressions and beliefs expressed in this note do not represent the thoughts of everyone,(see Jean Chretien). Nor do they represent the thoughts of my Grade Six teacher :teacher: , they are meant for entertainment, and getting things off ones chest. There may be side effects with these comments including dry mouth, itchy feet and a strong desire to fly south at a moments notice, and pose for pictures with people dressed in animal costumes ( I know they are not really people in there they are the real thing). Please use as directed. :thumbsup2

[jinglesmountjoy]

The Liberals lowered personal income tax and the conservatives are going to raise it back to where it was or possibly higher...

...I can't wait till he tries to push through on teh same sex marriage and the privatization with healthcare if he even dares try it with a minority government...

Did anyone notice how our dollar dropped directly after they were elected it is regaining now but that is something we should look at in the coming months if we start to get to cozy to the US IMHO. Nothing against the US but it could turn around to bite us in teh rear end.
CharlesTD...so we meet again...

When did Harper say he would increase personal income tax? In fact, if I'm not mistaken (and I may very well be), I thought he planned making our income taxes slightly lower.

He has stated, on the record, that he will not re-visit the same-sex issue. If a private members bill is introduced however, then he'll have no choice but to call a free vote. But even if it does, is that such a bad thing? I mean, isn't that what democracy is? A free vote, meaning every member of pariliament gets to vote with their hearts and not with their party. Let's assume then, that all Conservative MPs vote against same-sex (highly unlikely though). Since the Liberals seem to be so heavily in favour of same-sex marriage, I'm sure they'll all vote for it. Ditto for the NDP and the Bloc. There you go...private members bill is shot down. Incidentally, the issue has never been over the legal union of two same-sex partners...it's the use of the word 'marriage' that has all the religions upset. BTW I happen to support same-sex 'marriage' and I am currently a Conservative supporter.

Lastly, the slight drop of the loonie or any currency for that matter is perfectly normal when governments change hands. If it didn't drop, I would have been surprised.

[declansdad]

He has stated, on the record, that he will not re-visit the same-sex issue. If a private members bill is introduced however, then he'll have no choice but to call a free vote. But even if it does, is that such a bad thing? I mean, isn't that what democracy is? A free vote, meaning every member of pariliament gets to vote with their hearts and not with their party.

I think free votes would be great if they were actually free. The purpose of a free vote is to allow a MP to vote in a manner that would represent the wishes of their constituents. The problem arises when, as you stated, the mp votes with their hearts. That would mean they are voting based on their own personal beliefs not necessarily those of their constituents.

You are bang on with regards to the loonie. It dropped after the last election as well. While I like the value to be high when I am planning on going to WDW, a lower valued loonie is actually better for our export-based economy.

[CharlesTD]

CharlesTD...so we meet again...

When did Harper say he would increase personal income tax? In fact, if I'm not mistaken (and I may very well be), I thought he planned making our income taxes slightly lower.

He has stated, on the record, that he will not re-visit the same-sex issue. If a private members bill is introduced however, then he'll have no choice but to call a free vote. But even if it does, is that such a bad thing? I mean, isn't that what democracy is? A free vote, meaning every member of pariliament gets to vote with their hearts and not with their party. Let's assume then, that all Conservative MPs vote against same-sex (highly unlikely though). Since the Liberals seem to be so heavily in favour of same-sex marriage, I'm sure they'll all vote for it. Ditto for the NDP and the Bloc. There you go...private members bill is shot down. Incidentally, the issue has never been over the legal union of two same-sex partners...it's the use of the word 'marriage' that has all the religions upset. BTW I happen to support same-sex 'marriage' and I am currently a Conservative supporter.

Lastly, the slight drop of the loonie or any currency for that matter is perfectly normal when governments change hands. If it didn't drop, I would have been surprised.

I was informed when I called the conservative national HQ in my quest to find info on their platform that at that time the plan was to increase personal income tax and decrease the GST now that may have changed since I spoke with them they are afterall polaticians LOL. as for same sex marriage I feel it should be called marriage religion aside why should they get to decide the name of it not cool IMHO as you can tell I am not a religious person I prefer evolution to religion. I also concur that with his minority a free vote would not pass as there are many that want it to remain as is and not to change it.

[Azure]

I as a high school student we had the "fake votes" and I voted for Liberals! I don't like Steven Harper because he's against abortion and thats not right.

[digskat]

I would be more than happy to give my opinion on Harris. He is a scumbag! He claimed to balance the budget, only problem was, the money he used to try to show a balanced budget, was income on the sale of provincial assets. His 'common sense revolution' crushed the middle class, tossed the lower class into the streets, and lined the pockets of his wealthy friends. Cuts to provincial labs aided he tragedy in Walkerton. Elimination of provincial meat inspectors.....caused Aylmer meat scandal. Change in requirements and cuts in funding, put healthcare in jeopardy. Battles with teachers and ridiculous budget cuts (while upping tax cuts for private school families) closed schools.
The treatment of the less fortunate, cuts to welfare and mothers' allowance, comments like Tsubouchi's " Let them eat dented cans of tuna!" when questioned about the poor feeding their families, closing of support services for mentally ill, hiring freezes for police, closing of group homes for young offenders, private 'super jails' with little to no clinical programming........this lead to the violence, not just in Toronto, but in several Ontario cities. Harris slashed services, 'cut' taxes, raised the PST to feed his friends (see a 38.5% pay raise for MPPs, and tax breaks for pro teams), but worse, he put Ontarians at risk. The affects of Walkerton will be felt for ever in that community, and the affects of Harris will be felt for a generation in Ontario. Because of this, I can't consider voting Tory blue.

[jinglesmountjoy]

I would be more than happy to give my opinion on Harris. He is a scumbag! He claimed to balance the budget, only problem was, the money he used to try to show a balanced budget, was income on the sale of provincial assets. His 'common sense revolution' crushed the middle class, tossed the lower class into the streets, and lined the pockets of his wealthy friends. Cuts to provincial labs aided he tragedy in Walkerton. Elimination of provincial meat inspectors.....caused Aylmer meat scandal. Change in requirements and cuts in funding, put healthcare in jeopardy. Battles with teachers and ridiculous budget cuts (while upping tax cuts for private school families) closed schools.
The treatment of the less fortunate, cuts to welfare and mothers' allowance, comments like Tsubouchi's " Let them eat dented cans of tuna!" when questioned about the poor feeding their families, closing of support services for mentally ill, hiring freezes for police, closing of group homes for young offenders, private 'super jails' with little to no clinical programming........this lead to the violence, not just in Toronto, but in several Ontario cities. Harris slashed services, 'cut' taxes, raised the PST to feed his friends (see a 38.5% pay raise for MPPs, and tax breaks for pro teams), but worse, he put Ontarians at risk. The affects of Walkerton will be felt for ever in that community, and the affects of Harris will be felt for a generation in Ontario. Because of this, I can't consider voting Tory blue.

You'll never be able to vote Tory Blue...the party no longer exists.

[jinglesmountjoy]

I as a high school student we had the "fake votes" and I voted for Liberals! I don't like Steven Harper because he's against abortion and thats not right.
When did Stephen Harper EVER say he was against abortion. As far as he is concerned...the issue is settled...pro choice.

[jinglesmountjoy]

I think free votes would be great if they were actually free. The purpose of a free vote is to allow a MP to vote in a manner that would represent the wishes of their constituents. The problem arises when, as you stated, the mp votes with their hearts. That would mean they are voting based on their own personal beliefs not necessarily those of their constituents.

You are bang on with regards to the loonie. It dropped after the last election as well. While I like the value to be high when I am planning on going to WDW, a lower valued loonie is actually better for our export-based economy.
If I'm not mistaken, all house of commons voting records are public domain. Do you really think an MP would go against his/her constituants wishes, knowing we will know his/her vote? With an issue as big as abortion or same-sex marriage, you'll know what your MP voted before they've had a chance to get out of their seat after the vote.

[tone.def]

You'll never be able to vote Tory Blue...the party no longer exists.

Provincially, we still have the Progressive Conservative part in Ontario. Last I checked, they haven't dropped "progressive" yet!

Federally, that's another story...

[digskat]

CPC/PC both Conservatives...........CPC even had Jim 'lets make homelessness illegal' Flaherty, Harris' most right-wing, rightwing on board. Flaherty pushed for bigger tax cuts for parents who could put kids in private school, while he supported cut after cut for the private system. Flaherty lost his bid for the Ontario PC leadership, because he was too right-wing.

They also boasted "Two tier" Tony Clement, the former Minister of Environment, Minister of Housing, and Minister of Health under Harris. Clement was removed from his first post just shortly before Walkerton (less than 1 year into the position), and disgraced from post #2, after tenant groups released data, showing rising evictions, high rates of rent increase, and a severe shortage in geared-to-income housing. He was named MoH the same day he was turfed from Housing, and Clement promptly led Ontario's healthcare to near ruin, with budget cut after budget cut, and damage to the system was shown both in the SARS epidemic and Walkerton. Clement was shocked to find out nurses had to take 2-3 part time jobs, because he decimated the profession, and was more shocked he had to actually reresent his riding. Clement tried something different this time, he got the boot in Brampton West in the 2003 Provincial Election, lost in Brampton West in the 2004 Federal Election, so he ran this time in Parry Sound-Muskoka

These two men are expected to be Cabinet Members under Harper, with "two teir" Tony the probable Minister of Health. Blue Cross must be laughing their way to the bank, because that is the future of our Healthcare.

[DisFan2]

Conservative.

And on the 24th, the sun still came up.
No soldiers in the streets.
Same-sex marriage still legal.
In Canada.
We're not making this up.

[declansdad]

If I'm not mistaken, all house of commons voting records are public domain. Do you really think an MP would go against his/her constituants wishes, knowing we will know his/her vote? With an issue as big as abortion or same-sex marriage, you'll know what your MP voted before they've had a chance to get out of their seat after the vote.


I realize that voting records are public domain. However, a number of times in the past we have heard through the media mp state that they would not support the same-sex marriage bill for example, because it went against their beliefs. I have yet to be asked by my mp how I feel about it.

[KatieKateKate]

Oh that Harper is a SCARY man! :furious:

Someone actually compared his photo to Kalra Homolka's and they have many similar facial size and shapes... like the eyes and the forehead... ever since I saw that, looking at him on TV or on the newspaper gives me the irks, I see her.

Regardless, I'm more of a socialist so I could never vote that way. I think the feminist movement in the country (who has been dormant as thay've been lulled into security by our lovely Liberals) will finally have a reason to resurge and reignite and we'll have Harper to thank for that as we march towards parliament on whatever right of ours he will try to abolish.

I find it very interesting that someone can "win" an election with 64% of the country NOT voting for you... However, by a slim margin, the Conservative did get the % of the popular vote, but only by a couple percentage points...

[DisFan2]

I find it very interesting that someone can "win" an election with 64% of the country NOT voting for you... However, by a slim margin, the Conservative did get the % of the popular vote, but only by a couple percentage points...

Sort of like last time? (http://www.elections.ca/scripts/OVR2004/23/table9.html) Except it was the Liberals then.

[Yzma and Kronk]

Oh that Harper is a SCARY man! :furious:

Someone actually compared his photo to Kalra Homolka's and they have many similar facial size and shapes... like the eyes and the forehead... ever since I saw that, looking at him on TV or on the newspaper gives me the irks, I see her.

OMG :rolleyes:

I try not to get confrontational on these boards, but when someone posts something as stupid and totally inappropriate as this they have to be called on it. :sad2:

So, you are saying that our new Prime Minister is comparable to Karla Homolka.........that he can be compared to a cold blooded killer???? :confused3

You're entitled to your opinion BUT some things are just beyond the ridiculous. :sad2:

[KatieKateKate]

OMG :rolleyes:

I try not to get confrontational on these boards, but when someone posts something as stupid and totally inappropriate as this they have to be called on it. :sad2:

So, you are saying that our new Prime Minister is comparable to Karla Homolka.........that he can be compared to a cold blooded killer???? :confused3

You're entitled to your opinion BUT some things are just beyond the ridiculous. :sad2:


WOW! You have taken me totally out of context!

I said he looks like her, not he's a cold-blooded killer!

There was a reason I haven't visited these boards since at least August and it's because people here like to blow things WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of proportion!

Farewell again!

[CharlesTD]

I voted for the Harris government in Ontario and was very happy with the job he did for us contrary to some folks. I am neither rich nor pennyless broke and I came out of that just fine.

[jinglesmountjoy]

I realize that voting records are public domain. However, a number of times in the past we have heard through the media mp state that they would not support the same-sex marriage bill for example, because it went against their beliefs. I have yet to be asked by my mp how I feel about it.
That's why it's your duty to call your MP and let him/her know your opinion. Have all your friends do the same. The problem is, not enough of us (myself included) voice our opinions. We expect our MP to just 'know' what we want. If they get enough calls pushing for something, they would be stupid to not listen because they know you'll find out how they voted.

My mom is great at this. She calls at lets them know exactly what she expects and she has had a lot of positive action taken. Sure, not on everything...but at least on some.

Most importantly...YOUR vote is how you tell your MP what you thought of theirs. Make sure you call their campaign office and let them know of your vote and why.

[declansdad]

That's why it's your duty to call your MP and let him/her know your opinion. Have all your friends do the same. The problem is, not enough of us (myself included) voice our opinions. We expect our MP to just 'know' what we want. If they get enough calls pushing for something, they would be stupid to not listen because they know you'll find out how they voted.

My mom is great at this. She calls at lets them know exactly what she expects and she has had a lot of positive action taken. Sure, not on everything...but at least on some.

Most importantly...YOUR vote is how you tell your MP what you thought of theirs. Make sure you call their campaign office and let them know of your vote and why.

I get what you're saying but what I'm saying is that many mp's don't work that way.

If you listen to them many have stated that they will vote based on their own belief not of those who elected them. The only way free votes would truly work would be to have mp's poll the people in their riding.

[jinglesmountjoy]

Oh that Harper is a SCARY man! :furious:

Someone actually compared his photo to Kalra Homolka's and they have many similar facial size and shapes... like the eyes and the forehead... ever since I saw that, looking at him on TV or on the newspaper gives me the irks, I see her.

Regardless, I'm more of a socialist so I could never vote that way. I think the feminist movement in the country (who has been dormant as thay've been lulled into security by our lovely Liberals) will finally have a reason to resurge and reignite and we'll have Harper to thank for that as we march towards parliament on whatever right of ours he will try to abolish.

I find it very interesting that someone can "win" an election with 64% of the country NOT voting for you... However, by a slim margin, the Conservative did get the % of the popular vote, but only by a couple percentage points...
Jack Layton looks like my uncle Horace who thinks women should stay home, cook and have babies. I guess I should be scared of Mr. Layton.

I would love to hear your rationalization regarding Harper's plan to abolish women's rights. When, in his entire career, has he EVER even hinted at being anti-feminist. It would be a shame to think that points like these form the basis of your voting decision...

Regarding voting percentages...the jury is still out on that and let me say, I think this will be a HUGE issue. Non-citizens receiving voter registration cards, an American U of T student walks into a poll and is given a ballot to vote...this smells BAD! I'm not saying that the Liberals had anything to do with this but, they are certainly the party that would have the most to gain. As we all know, new Canadians, landed immigrants...etc overwhelmingly support the Liberal party...that is not speculation, that is fact. It's similar to the way Bush messed with the voting system in the US to ensure that certain groups that are known to favour Republican governments voted while groups known to favour Democratic governments were not able to vote for one reason or another. I don't know all the facts surrounding that so I can't give much detail but I do remember it was a BIG issue. If anyone knows more, I'd love to hear it or get a link.

[jinglesmountjoy]

I get what you're saying but what I'm saying is that many mp's don't work that way.

If you listen to them many have stated that they will vote based on their own belief not of those who elected them. The only way free votes would truly work would be to have mp's poll the people in their riding.
I couldn't agree more. I think the problem is logistically. For an MP to 'poll' his constituants everytime there is a vote would be time consuming and costly. I was actually thinking about this earlier today and to keep it fair an ensure that each of us only vote once, it would require something as 'organized' as a federal or provincial election.$$$$$$$

We need more citizens to start petitions when we are faced with a free vote and bring it to your MP. If time is limited (no time to start a petition), at least call. In the end, if he/she votes against your wishes...place your vote accordingly and make sure to let him/her know of your planned vote and why.

Great issue though!!

[Yzma and Kronk]

WOW! You have taken me totally out of context!

I said he looks like her, not he's a cold-blooded killer!

There was a reason I haven't visited these boards since at least August and it's because people here like to blow things WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of proportion!

Farewell again!

I didn't mean to scare you away.........but that's the thing with the written word. You gotta be careful what you type!

So, then what exactly was your point in bringing up your comparison????

(it's wasn't at all funny BTW)

[declansdad]

Great issue though!!

Totally agree. It's about time for a political debate on here.