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matocody1997
01-16-2006, 01:56 PM
We are considering the first weekend of June for our next trip to WDW and I just discovered that is "gay day." I was wondering what other people's experiences were during this event. What are the crowd levels like? I'm also concerned about what my 8 year old son will see while there. I don't think we are ready for the "birds and the bees" discussion yet. What days are the parks crowded with people for gay day and what parks do they usually go to? I hope I don't offend anyone with this question, as that is certainly not my intention. I'm just trying to avoid crowds, if possible, and any uncomfortable situations with my son.

AJKMOM
01-16-2006, 02:04 PM
there is a "Gay and Lesbian at Disney" Forum here at the DIS. Most say that the day is celebrated at the Magic Kingdom and to avoid it that day. Some of those that went to the MK that day say you couldn't tell anything was going on. some said they noticed a few "public displays of affection" but their kids didn't see it. I gather that it is crowded that day and the celebrants all wear red.

I say, check out the forum, and if that isn't enough info, do a search at the top of the page and see what others say.

cleo
01-16-2006, 02:09 PM
You are bound to get quite a range of replies to this one, and you may want to do a search on Gay Days for an idea of some of what is likely to be said here. :rolleyes:

My family have been to Disney nearly every year while Gay Pride week is underway and have never, in all those years, seen anything you wouldn't see at your local mall or any time you are out in public. You aren't likely to be visitng Pleasure Island with your 4 year old, so that isn't going to be an issue. You certainly aren't going to see anyone attempting to act out 'the birds and the bees' dance in the parks.

The crowds at Magic Kingdom on the Gay Pride week Saturday will be significantly increased, but that is the only 'structured' day organised by the group (remember, it isn't a Disney sanctioned event). Avoid the Saturday and you're likely to find crowds similar to those you would have at the parks on a moderately busy week in April/May.

Hopefully all further replies will stick to the questions you are asking. Let's keep it helpful and respectful and this thread has a good chance of remaining open. :teeth:

momsgoofy
01-16-2006, 02:26 PM
there is a "Gay and Lesbian at Disney" Forum here at the DIS. Most say that the day is celebrated at the Magic Kingdom and to avoid it that day. Some of those that went to the MK that day say you couldn't tell anything was going on. some said they noticed a few "public displays of affection" but their kids didn't see it. I gather that it is crowded that day and the celebrants all wear red.

I say, check out the forum, and if that isn't enough info, do a search at the top of the page and see what others say.

I agree...utilize the new forum...

and having said that I will also add that we've been twice during the first weekend in June...once when DS was 7 and last June when he'd just turned 13...both trips were just great! We did not observe anything that DS had no business seeing. I'm actually looking at the dates for our next trip.

Crowd levels? The first trip (1999) seemed more crowded than the one last June, but anytime there is a large group heading to one of the parks, the crowds will increase.

Trying to avoid uncomfortable situations for your DS...probably if Mom and Dad aren't uncomfortable then it will be the same for DS...that has been our experience for DS when ever we deal with anything.

As for wearing the red...honestly...it never seemed like there was a lot on either trip...or maybe we just didn't see it. What we did see was people who love WDW having magical times at the world...individuals, couples, and families...

I know there are a couple of websites that will list the schedule of events put on by the organizing groups...not WDW...separate groups that sponsor the events which happen to be things like going to the MK...I just can't remember which is the more "official" one...so I'd say go to the Gay and Lesbian Forum and ask for some info.

I hope you have a great trip...whenever you go.

A Mickeyfan
01-16-2006, 02:37 PM
I am a seasonal passholder & my kids get out of school the end of May. Every year I end up there during Gay Days & it has never bothered any of us. My kids are now 13, 17 & 19. The 19 yr old one didn't come this past year, other than that, all 3 of my kids have been with me. The day they are at the MK, I do not go. Not because it is Gay Day there, but because it is a Sat and I usually try to stay away from the MK on Sat since that seems to be the most crowded day. I may go early am & then leave.
Once when we were at the Prime Outlets (one just off I-4 near Disney), my son witnessed 2 men in the bathroom doing what they should not be doing in any public place... no it wasn't Disney's fault & had nothing to do with Disney. I know many parents do not want to have to "explain" why there are 2 men/women holding hands but at some time you will have to explain it to your children. Honestly, Disney is about the best place to do it at. You will even encounter some with their "own" children. If you want your child to grow up without fear or hate for that type of lifestyle, you do need to explain what it is about. I have done it with my children & hope that they will have my attitude about it. It is a part of life, no different that hetero.... just my 2 cents. I have gay friends & they are no different than me (other than thier partner preference), they have feelings too.

Haveamagicalday!
01-16-2006, 03:01 PM
My family and I will be arriving on the actual gay day. We wont be attending MK that day just to be cautious. I have seen pictures and it seems there a lot of people in red. Idk if we are overreacting or not, but we live in the buckle of the bible belt in Oklahoma and are very sheltered. I think it is up to your family and how well your family would handle it. :earsboy:

ryley26
01-16-2006, 03:39 PM
It's no big deal just aviod MK on I think it's usally Saturday crowd are just crazy.People make a huge deal out of this I'm more concerned with the behavior of teens at the parks and explaining that to my kids.

dbenlee
01-16-2006, 05:29 PM
We have been to WDW the last 2 years during this time and have had absolutlely no problems. Like mentioned earlier, you don't see anything that you don't see you the local mall. And we avoid MK on saturday because all the guide books say that is statistically the most crowded day during the summer. Our DS 6 has never noticed anything that needs explaining, he's normally to busy looking for the next attraction to actually notice that there are even people every where.

A Mickeyfan
01-16-2006, 05:35 PM
It's no big deal just aviod MK on I think it's usally Saturday crowd are just crazy.People make a huge deal out of this I'm more concerned with the behavior of teens at the parks and explaining that to my kids.
I agree with you 100% on that one!!!! and I have teens now!!! I actually thought is was harder to explain to my dd (then age 11) why people were drunk & puking at HHN one year. Sorry if that is graphic but it is true.

Shugardrawers
01-16-2006, 06:03 PM
Disney holds ALL couples, gay or straight, to the same standards of public behavior. You will probably see some same sex couples holding hands and may witness a kiss or 2 but that's about it. Nothing more shocking than you'd see on the streets at home. You might encounter someone who likes to dress more flamboyantly but again, nothing too over the top since Disney does have some dress guidelines. Truth be told, you probably won't really notice a difference thought it will be significantly more crowded that day.

Schmeck
01-16-2006, 06:22 PM
Oh, I think you'll be surprised as to what some people think is 'appropriate' wear for WDW, especially during the summer. Heterosexual or homosexual, it doesn't matter which, there will be body parts showing that should be kept under wraps...

matocody1997
01-16-2006, 06:48 PM
Thank you everyone for your opinions! We have decided to go from May 31-June 6. I never thought of it like some of you pointed out in that teens can be worse the worst. I forgot some of the outrageous things we have seen from all kinds of people in public places and ds never seems to notice. Thanks again! :)

Wendy31
01-16-2006, 06:54 PM
DH & I have discussed this, and, if his available time-off from work happened to coincide w/ Gay Day, we would still go but just avoid the MK on that Saturday (not only for the different types of PDA that we might end up having to explain to our children but primarily because of the extra crowds). But, you know, it's just as hard to explain to your children why someone is wearing their underwear on the outside of their clothing or what some "words" mean they're overheard - meaning, wherever you go, you're likely to witness behavior or hear things that may or may not be in agreement with what you choose to teach your children.

Last year, we went to Disney the week before Memorial Day. This year, his available time off is for June 9th through 21st. However, Gay Day aside, I wish his available time off were for either the end of May (like last year) or the beginning of June - just because the weather might be cooler & the crowds might be thinner.

In other words, I wouldn't let Gay Day stop us from going to WDW; we'd just avoid MK on that first Saturday of June.

TDS373X
01-16-2006, 07:33 PM
there is a website for this event at gaydays.com if you are wanting to know what the calendar is for this event. I just looked at it since we may be there at this time instead of the May dates depending on how much of a fit dd teacher has for a 2nd trip to WDW this year. it looks like for much of it there is a cruise this year but there is a BIG day at MK on Sat. :flower:

Sparticus
01-23-2006, 05:37 PM
Here's what I found out.

Sunday Magic Kingdom
Crystal palace @ 7am
Cinderella Castle @ 11am-12:00
Contempary Resort @ 12-2:30
Town Square Lesbians @ 12:45
Gay Parade/Disney parade @ 3:00pm
(sounds like they follow the parade)
Pirates & Country Bears @ 1:00 pm
(leather clad at pirates and harry at bears)
Spectromagic Parade @ 9
Fireworks @ 10

Sounds like the crowds are typical and the pictures from gayday website looked pretty tame. I plan on keeping my family away from the swim day at Typhoon Lagoon though because of the pictures of previous days on their web site. Speedo clad men are just not my cup of tea.

horsegirl
01-23-2006, 06:41 PM
I plan on keeping my family away from the swim day at Typhoon Lagoon though because of the pictures of previous days on their web site. Speedo clad men are just not my cup of tea.

Better not go to Europe or many other parts of the world! Speedos (or less) are all you'll see. Heck Miami beach and swim meets too! Having traveled the world a bit, I rather now like speedos on the gents :rolleyes1 Welcome to the boards Sparticus. I hope you don't mind a little ribbing!

ECurto
01-23-2006, 07:42 PM
Speaking as "one of them" id have to say its "us" who cant stand seeing you "heteros" kissing during firworks, or holding hands while you walk down main street, or showing affection during a meal. I mean really the way nobody cares is appauling! God forbid I wanted to do that, id get every billy bob and his wife/sister making a comment while pulling their kids away. Any idea when we can go to avoid that. Oh and p.s. its DISNEY... like 70% of the company is gay ... HELLO!!!!

pepperw23
01-23-2006, 07:56 PM
I think if you make a big deal about it then it will be a big deal to your kids, if they ask why those men/women are holding hands just simply tell the truth "Because they love each other." then let it go. I have found that kids tend to be a lot more open and accepting than most adults. I am not gay, but I support gay rights 100%. Personally it bothers me that a lot of people see them as almost "sub-human" not to be trusted to behave in public. You have inconsiderate people regardless. It is not a gay/straight thing.

Now for the teenagers. They are not all bad. I have two, and most in my experience shows most are good honest kids stuck in adult bodies. My DS 17 is focused on his grades and has already been accepted to a Div 2 College as a starting pitcher. My DD 15 is honor roll and a competitive cheerleader. I am not bragging, just trying to make the point that their friends are the same way. Teens need a lot of guidance and focus, some teens have just lost focus that is all.

Just my two cents worth. Now group hug.... :grouphug:

java
01-23-2006, 07:57 PM
We were there on Gay Day a few years back and we had a great time. There was nothing that needed to be explained to my kids(4 and 7 at the time) They know that there are men that love other men and women that love other women. It is a complete non-issue for us. Yes there are some over the top guys just like there are some over the top- heterosexual females in the park. I wouldn't let it scare you away. In fact there were fewer people there because I think some were scared away.

ntengwall
01-23-2006, 08:03 PM
Ecurto,
Amen!! Bugs the sh*t out of me how everyone always "sexualizes" gays--like that's all you ever do. I actually like when I see 2 men or 2 women holding hands and I NEVER hide it from my boys! We actually have quite a few gay couples in our homeschooling group and my kids have never once asked me about it (although I did address it and said just what the OP said--some men love other men and some women love other women--end of story). Kids are sooo much more accepting than most adults--what a sad statement on our society :furious:

TAKitty
01-23-2006, 08:11 PM
Sorry double post due to server error

TAKitty
01-23-2006, 08:12 PM
Speaking as "one of them" id have to say its "us" who cant stand seeing you "heteros" kissing during firworks, or holding hands while you walk down main street, or showing affection during a meal. I mean really the way nobody cares is appauling! God forbid I wanted to do that, id get every billy bob and his wife/sister making a comment while pulling their kids away. Any idea when we can go to avoid that. Oh and p.s. its DISNEY... like 70% of the company is gay ... HELLO!!!!

I think you are being mean. :confused3 or maybe I am not understanding your humor. I read the entire posts and didn't think anyone was being nasty or rude towards gays.

I understand where the poster is coming from by asking. I am not sure where many of you live, but I never see same sex individuals kissing and holding hands and I live near Ann Arbor, Michigan. Anyway, sometimes when you have young children you have to consider someone else's feelings besides your own. I think the rest of the posters have been very helpful.

mel
01-23-2006, 08:23 PM
We've also been twice @ this time and haven't noticed anything really, but I do agree with one of the post above about clothing at the parks, it is sometimes unbelievable what you see. My daughters saw more underwear do the boys all wearing their pants so low their belts were around their legs! Oh how I want to tell them to pull their pants up! And not to leave out the women, with their scantly clad clothing, I just tell my girls they are getting the wrong kind of attention! :rolleyes2

LukenDC
01-23-2006, 10:05 PM
I plan on keeping my family away from the swim day at Typhoon Lagoon though because of the pictures of previous days on their web site. Speedo clad men are just not my cup of tea.

I had to laugh when I read this. My BF is French (long distance relationship---he lives in Paris) and we went to WDW last year. I made a point of telling him that Americans do not usually wear Speedos for recreational swimming and that he had to obtain a pair of modest swim trunks. He was confused, but complied with my wishes. As one of the other posters said, Speedos are very common in Europe and are found on ALL body types.

I'm gay and do not care for PDAs and provacative clothing. I have never been to Gay Days, but I did see some attire among young (presumably straight but who knows) men and women at WDW that gave me pause. Some guys also need to cover up their raunchy tattoos. I stopped going to my local amusement parks because they have water and swim sections and people seem to take that as a sign that they can parade in their skimpy swimwear all day long.

ntengwall
01-24-2006, 08:29 AM
TAKitty-
You said, "sometimes when you have young children you have to consider someone else's feelings besides your own". This is exactly the mentality that upsets gays and anyone supportive of differences. You are treating them like something that needs to be hidden from the children. You may not have many "out" gays in Ann Arbor, but it would be wise of you to not shelter your kids since this is the real world and the earlier you educate them, the less ignorant they will be as adults. You'd be really suprised how well kids handle that kind of thing---it is usually the adults who teach the kids to be judgemental. My three boys know that there are men who love men and women who love women and they honestly could care less. But I certainly did not want them growing up being ignorant of an entire culture in the USA. Just be careful of the subliminal messages you are sending your kids when you "shield" them from people different from themselves.

Marseeya
01-24-2006, 08:46 AM
TAKitty-
You said, "sometimes when you have young children you have to consider someone else's feelings besides your own". This is exactly the mentality that upsets gays and anyone supportive of differences. You are treating them like something that needs to be hidden from the children. You may not have many "out" gays in Ann Arbor, but it would be wise of you to not shelter your kids since this is the real world and the earlier you educate them, the less ignorant they will be as adults. You'd be really suprised how well kids handle that kind of thing---it is usually the adults who teach the kids to be judgemental. My three boys know that there are men who love men and women who love women and they honestly could care less. But I certainly did not want them growing up being ignorant of an entire culture in the USA. Just be careful of the subliminal messages you are sending your kids when you "shield" them from people different from themselves.

:thumbsup2

I totally agree. I can't believe the number of people who say, "I'm not ready to have that talk with my kids." What talk?? You mean the talk about love? I think they understand more about love than adults do.

ECurto
01-24-2006, 09:16 AM
"TAKitty" I’m sorry you didn’t understand my humor. I assure you I was speaking in jest. I simply meant that it’s funny to me that so many parents come on these boards to “fearfully” find out what their children are going to see on gay days. This upsets me b/c if I wanted to show ANY sort of affection to my partner at Disney I get stares, people pointing, laughing, whispering etc. Its heart breaking. Just once id like to hold Kirks hand during fireworks… oh and I mean not during the 1 weekend a year when people are nationally made aware ill be there. Speaking from a psychologists (my profession) standpoint, guarding or not exposing your children to things is what will do the real damage. Most children want to be like their parents, and learn from them. So if you explain to them (preferably without out your own prejudices) about same sex couples they will understand. Why does it have to be any more complex then “they love each other” or “sometime boys and girls fall in love, some times two boys or two girls do”. I know we live in a time where church and state are not separated (as much as they should be) and I also know that there are gay people out there who will go over board and play to the stereotype and confirm your “fears”. Understand these people are the extreme, just as there is an extreme to any group of people. Bottom line is love is love. Teach your kids about love and not about the package it comes in, and you’ll raise well adjusted loving children of your own.

Panther mom
01-24-2006, 09:21 AM
Is that going to be June 3rd? Can you tell me? That is the day we are arriving. Please let me know. Thanks.

KatheeME
01-24-2006, 09:32 AM
One of these years this is going to be a non-issue, and we will just worry about HUMANS, not their personal choices, and human behavior in general, not just those of whom we "disapprove". :confused3

My dh and I have always treated being gay or straight a non-issue, just like the color of one's skin, their religious preference, where they chose to live .. I could go on and on.

Have a great trip whatever you decide to do and you got lots of great advice and avenues to research it more. :)

horsegirl
01-24-2006, 09:35 AM
I refrained from getting into a whole lot of dialogwe as the moderator advised to stick to the question, but couldn't let the bathing suit comment go unaddressed. But I am glad that several people spoke up on the issue of tolerance and acceptance being modeled to children. We had that so called "talk" with our dks when they were 3, because they asked why several of their friends didn't have a mommy. The "talk" lasted all of one line, "because they have 2 daddys who love them and each other." My dks had a harder time understanding about divorce and single parenthood. ("you mean the parents love each other and then they hate each other?", is what my oldest son asked. That concept seemed to disturb him, whereas having to same sex parents did not phase them in the least. Our dks are also adopted, so they have lots of questions about what defines a family. They at the tender ages of 4,5,6 have a great deal of knowledge about the different kinds of familys there are. The hardest thing I am dealing with now is how to help them understand children at school who steal, say and do terribly mean things and act in ways that are not safe or kind (like eating crayons, biting.....) I have found children to be remarkably understanding and forgiving. As other posters said, they pick up their judgement from adults. My parents were in the arts, so I grew up learning about differences from my parents. They also taught me that it is much easier to love than to hate. Hate takes such a negative toll on one's life......It is like an infection.

Sylvester McBean
01-24-2006, 09:47 AM
we live in Florida as well, close to you. as a tourist destination, we see people from all over the world on the beaches and in the parks practicing different behaviors. we've been to WDW during gay days and have never seen anything approaching the behavior as 'good old USA teens'. we're lucky enough to live close so you can visit anytime. just don't go during that week. I'm more freaked out by the way some people dress during star wars weekends. :)

SamRoc
01-24-2006, 10:06 AM
Speaking as "one of them" id have to say its "us" who cant stand seeing you "heteros" kissing during firworks, or holding hands while you walk down main street, or showing affection during a meal. I mean really the way nobody cares is appauling! God forbid I wanted to do that, id get every billy bob and his wife/sister making a comment while pulling their kids away. Any idea when we can go to avoid that. Oh and p.s. its DISNEY... like 70% of the company is gay ... HELLO!!!!

You posted this so I can respond. I think what you wrote about billy bob and his wife/sister is very insulting. Do you mean Southeners? Of course you do. You should be ashamed of yourself for that stereotypical insult, even if it was a lame attempt at humor.

cleo
01-24-2006, 10:16 AM
OY! C'mon, folks. Maybe if we can be a little slower to take offense this thread could continue on a somewhat constructive path.

That said, I lived near Ann Arbor for nearly 30 years and if you don't see men holding hands with men and women holding hands with women, frankly, you aren't looking. I have never once shopped at the local mall or spend an hour at Good Food Co. without seeing it left, right and center. Ann Arbor is one of the more tolerant (and acitve) cities in Michigan (I've lived all over the state), and no one bats and eye at couples acting like couples. :rolleyes:

Looks like the OP's question about crowd levels has been answered and this is becoming an off topic topic. Bumping to a more appropriate board if you'd like to continue the 'debate'.

horsegirl
01-24-2006, 10:20 AM
You posted this so I can respond. I think what you wrote about billy bob and his wife/sister is very insulting. Do you mean Southeners? Of course you do. You should be ashamed of yourself for that stereotypical insult, even if it was a lame attempt at humor.

I need to say respectfully that Southerners are not an oppressed group of people, so it is difficult for me to understand that level of anger. Jeff Foxworthy uses rednecks as the basis for his career as a comedian, and got away with it, I suspect in part because rednecks are not oppressed. Gays on the other hand, are often treated by many, as pariahs and are targeted through violence, politics and other forms of discrimination. I am straight, and have no agenda other than keeping things fair. I was far more offended by the tone of the posts that were isolating their children from any contact with one type of person-that to me is stereotyping, as the acquaintances and friends I know are as diverse as any other population. I hope this does not get shut down, as I think this is important dialogue and every bit as relevant here than any other topic, if not more so. Maybe it will get moved to another board. I hope you will not be angry, Samroc, for those of us that disagree.....

RickinNYC
01-24-2006, 11:10 AM
"TAKitty" I’m sorry you didn’t understand my humor. I assure you I was speaking in jest. I simply meant that it’s funny to me that so many parents come on these boards to “fearfully” find out what their children are going to see on gay days. This upsets me b/c if I wanted to show ANY sort of affection to my partner at Disney I get stares, people pointing, laughing, whispering etc. Its heart breaking. Just once id like to hold Kirks hand during fireworks… oh and I mean not during the 1 weekend a year when people are nationally made aware ill be there. Speaking from a psychologists (my profession) standpoint, guarding or not exposing your children to things is what will do the real damage. Most children want to be like their parents, and learn from them. So if you explain to them (preferably without out your own prejudices) about same sex couples they will understand. Why does it have to be any more complex then “they love each other” or “sometime boys and girls fall in love, some times two boys or two girls do”. I know we live in a time where church and state are not separated (as much as they should be) and I also know that there are gay people out there who will go over board and play to the stereotype and confirm your “fears”. Understand these people are the extreme, just as there is an extreme to any group of people. Bottom line is love is love. Teach your kids about love and not about the package it comes in, and you’ll raise well adjusted loving children of your own.

Do what Joe and I do during Illuminations. Stand there, next to all the other married coules, and hold hands. Anyone has a problem with it, they can find some other place to stand because we don't budge.

But frankly, we're not overly affectionate in public anyway, whether in WDW or walking through Greenwich Village in NYC. However, I do, from time to time, get a bit swept away at the emotion that I feel while at Disney, particularly during their fireworks presentations. And that's usually when I grab Joe's hand, or he sees me in complete awe of the spectacle in front of me and he puts his hand on my shoulder.

In any case, back to the original topic at hand, I've heard more stories about absolutely nothing that happens during gay days than I have otherwise. Sure, a couple of folks have reported two men stealing a smooch, but big deal. It's the 21st century and absolutely and completely a fact of life folks.

Nevertheless, just also wanted to say that Joe and I avoid that time of year and will never go to Gay Days for a couple of reasons, two of which are it's just too hot and crowded! The other is that we live in NYC and don't feel the need to go out of our way to another party of the country to validate our relationship or to feel camarederie with like minded men and women. However, there are millions of other gay men and women that don't have that luxury due to where they live. so I think it's a cool option should they choose to participate in Gay Days, whether at WDW or anywhere else.

yaytezIOA
01-24-2006, 11:37 AM
There is this whole sterotype that if you have a group of gays in one place at once, then someone will be having sex right in front of your eyes and make you join. Not the case. I have been to both Universal and MK during those events and while there were a few cases of hand holding and PDA's the most part people behanved like adults, not "horned up" teenagers. And who cares about hand holding or a little kiss? Its not going to "warp" your childrens heads. But what will is teaching them that its okay to judge people based on who they hold hands with. We live next door to a gay couple and they have become very good friends of ours, always coming over and having us to dinner, hanging out on the weekends, and yes even going to the theme parks with us, which they will be this weekend for EE. And yes, we have kids, and no we dont shelter them from our neighbors. It just really gets under my skin to see that though most parents preach equality to all, they really dont believe in it! It's all one life that we live, and we all go the same way home, so why not just get along and accept people for the people they are.....teach acceptance, and practice it to...and not just of gay people. Skin color, religous beliefs, disabilities and height/weight. Remember this? Like a person for who they are, not what they are.

brerrabbit
01-24-2006, 02:38 PM
The way I look at it there are PDA's and there are overt sexual actions. PDA's are holding hands, short kisses (no tounges) hugs and arms around shoulders. I don't think any of those things need to be explained, its love and affection. Overt sexuals actions are checking for someones tonsils with your tounge, grabing something that should not be grabbed in public or hands inside the shirt or pants. Either of these activities can be committed by straight people or Gay people. In either group the former is quite alright and should cause no problems, as for the latter activities all I can say is "get a room!" Personally I feel that so many people are put off by the idea of Gays because it seems that 99% of the things we see in media about Gays are the more overt things. I don't care if you are Gay, Straight, or have a thing for animals I don't want to see it at WDW, or any other place for that matter. As a family we have been at WDW during Gay days on several occasions and have had no problems what so ever. We tend to have more incidents during non Gay days with straight couples going over the line.

ECurto
01-24-2006, 03:23 PM
You posted this so I can respond. I think what you wrote about billy bob and his wife/sister is very insulting. Do you mean Southeners? Of course you do. You should be ashamed of yourself for that stereotypical insult, even if it was a lame attempt at humor.

Yes it was a lame joke. I should not have used that as an example. I’m was typing emotionally. I also don’t think its on the level as to what we are talking about, but if you felt offended, im sorry.

Joe & Rick… I agree we will never do gay days for 1. the heat, and 2. the validation. Although funny story, once I pretended to be blind so people wouldn’t think it odd that we would hold hands when we walked in Disney… funny…yet sad. Lol

RickinNYC
01-25-2006, 08:37 AM
Although funny story, once I pretended to be blind so people wouldn’t think it odd that we would hold hands when we walked in Disney… funny…yet sad. Lol

OH....MY....GOD....!!!! :rotfl2:

By the way Eric, I know we PM'ed a while back about meeting up sometime. You guys are on Long Island right? Valentine is in Brooklyn and we're in Queens. We should definitely set something up! Couple of other folks (gay and not so much) want to meet up as well.

mickeyfan2
01-25-2006, 09:40 AM
Just trying to get a handle on the actual attendance at WDW in early June. Does anybody know?

brerrabbit
01-25-2006, 09:51 AM
Have no idea of the numbers but we have been there twice during that time and for some reason the crowds seemed a bit lighter. It could have something to do with a lot of the more Northern schools don't get out until the second week of June. This could however be offset in any given year by the fact that the majority of Southern schools get out before Memorial Day. Both times we were there at this time of year the crowds were there but very manageble and ride waits never exceeded 15 to 20 minutes.

mickeyfan2
01-25-2006, 10:05 AM
Have no idea of the numbers but we have been there twice during that time and for some reason the crowds seemed a bit lighter. It could have something to do with a lot of the more Northern schools don't get out until the second week of June. This could however be offset in any given year by the fact that the majority of Southern schools get out before Memorial Day. Both times we were there at this time of year the crowds were there but very manageble and ride waits never exceeded 15 to 20 minutes.
This is good to hear. I was worried about the crowds since each day there is an EMH am and pm. This made me a little worried about crowds.

PHILCT
01-25-2006, 05:10 PM
Hi Everyone

I'm going for the first time to Gay Day with a close Gay Friend.

I'm looking forward to putting on my Red Mickey Shirt.
It's hanging in the closet (no pun), waiting to be packed.

I'm a little nervous about the crowds, so if it gets too intense I will head away from the Magic Kingdom that Saturday and head over to EPCOT !

I am staying onsite for 8 nights starting with the prior weekend, mostly at the Beach Club Villas, and a couple nights at the Villas of the Wilderness Lodge upon arrival.

I am wondering where it would be nice to dine at in the Magic Kingdom on Gay Day? Any suggestions ? I have only dined at the Crystal Palace there.


Phil

kcouture
01-25-2006, 05:49 PM
I don't understand why this is an issue. Gay Day? Who cares, in my opinion. Gay people are no more likely then anyone else hetero/trans/bi to cause a problem. I am going that week, didn't know about Gay Day, with my husband and 13 DD. I am a police officer working as a detective in Child Crimes and believe me there is not one type of sexual orientation statistically that offends more then others. I absolutely am disgusted when people say they just "want to be cautious" - Of What?

Sorry if I offended, just my 2 cents.

Blknjman
01-26-2006, 12:09 AM
My family and I will be arriving on the actual gay day. We wont be attending MK that day just to be cautious. I have seen pictures and it seems there a lot of people in red. Idk if we are overreacting or not, but we live in the buckle of the bible belt in Oklahoma and are very sheltered. :earsboy:
I am LOL at the line "..wont be attending MK THAT day just to be cautious."
All this sounds like the South 1950's, the city park/pool avoided on a Wed, because it was "colored" day.
FYI Disney is one of the largest employers of Gays in the state of Florida. It seems now more than ever Gays are popping up everywhere. And I have found them to be just like "regular" people. What are you afraid of? I doubt they will break out into spontanious broadway show tunes or fashion makeovers while you and the family are qued for Pirates of the Caribbean. My Family has been to WDW several tiimes during gaydays, and we met Parents of Gay children, Gay Parents with Straight kids, Straight brothers with Gay sisters. Enjoy the parks, knowing IF you see two women holding hands, IF you make a Big deal of it your children will. You dont have to get into a big birds and bees speach- if asked just say those two ladies are obviously good friends and like each other.
Enjoy the parks knowing that friendly Castmember who upgraded your Resort room or extended a Disney smile to your family very well maybe a gay person. Regardless of YOUR religion, lets not pass on hate or judgement. I leave the judgement to the Almighty. :grouphug:

dbenlee
01-26-2006, 07:31 AM
Just trying to get a handle on the actual attendance at WDW in early June. Does anybody know?

Mickeyfan2, the attendance level at WDW are high during the first part of June, but they are managable if you get to the parks early and take every advantage possible of the Fast Pass system. The only thing I would reccommend is to avoid MK on any saturday during early summer, this seems to be when the park is the busiest. We have been to the World during the first week of June over the last 2 years and have had a blast in spite of the crowds and have only waited in line more than 25 minutes once by using Fast Pass.

Chuck S
01-26-2006, 08:23 AM
IWhat are you afraid of? I doubt they will break out into spontanious broadway show tunes or fashion makeovers while you and the family are qued for Pirates of the Caribbean.

Sounds like fun - LOL

DrTomorrow
02-06-2006, 02:23 PM
Greetings!

DW and I planned our trip a few weeks ago and I just found out today that it's during GayDays. At first I thought "Cool, that's got to be more interesting than the boring Flower Show". But then I realized that there's probably not going to be anything that would spook the horses ;) . As a married couple still in love after 25 years (had our 25th Anniversary dinner at 'Ohana!!!) hand-holding and a kiss now and then are good by us, regardless of the genders involved.

In fact, if GayDays keeps away all those folks who have trouble with events like this, then that means those who ARE at WDW will be of the more-tolerant variety - always a good thing!

Be well! :hippie:

ChrizJen
02-07-2006, 10:10 AM
Greetings!

DW and I planned our trip a few weeks ago and I just found out today that it's during GayDays. At first I thought "Cool, that's got to be more interesting than the boring Flower Show". But then I realized that there's probably not going to be anything that would spook the horses ;) . As a married couple still in love after 25 years (had our 25th Anniversary dinner at 'Ohana!!!) hand-holding and a kiss now and then are good by us, regardless of the genders involved.

In fact, if GayDays keeps away all those folks who have trouble with events like this, then that means those who ARE at WDW will be of the more-tolerant variety - always a good thing!

Be well! :hippie:


Congratulations on 25 years!!!! And may you have 50 more years of wedded bliss!!!

Thank you for your comments, and may more people take your example... :cheer2:

-Christal

ZPT1022
02-07-2006, 01:29 PM
first of all, i've been away from disboards for a while at didn't even realize this board was here- pretty cool. :thumbsup2

to the person who said what's the big deal, the only big deal I can come up with is that personally I would avoid any park where I knew a huge group of people were planning on congregating- be it a gay thing, a church thing, contest winners, nascar fans, people who love dogs, whatever. I see a large group at one park as an invitation to visit another park that day. I don't want to wait in lines longer than I have to with three kids :)

A few things here to comment on- first, speedos-ick. all I think of with them is this old man we saw on the beach one time sitting down and his tummy was covering his legs and it looked like he was naked. we were teens at the time and we kept looking. one of those train wreck don't wanna look but can't seem to stop myself things. lol we were relieved when he got up from his chair to see that there was at least some covering involved but whew, that was a close one,lol :rotfl:

as for "exposing" your kids to stuff it is only as big a deal as you want to make it. I liked the response about 'because they love each other' we have gay friends so I doubt my kids would be fazed by much but that's a great answer to give. like so much else it's all about how the parents treat the situation than anything else. i had a friend who was going to be nursing her new baby and was all freaked out about how to explain it to her 4 year old. when i had the same situation when my twins were born all i told my oldest was 'when you were a baby mommy made milk for you, and now I am going to make milk for the twins too' her response? 'thanks for the milk when i was a baby' :rotfl2: it was a non issue because we made it a non issue.

and on the subject of gay wdw cast members, yep, there sure are a bunch out there. some of the nicest people you could ever hope to deal with too. when i worked at wdw doing the college program i used to hope to get paired up for the day with one of the gay guys in my department, they were SO much fun to work with! anyhoo, enough from me :)

Becky

nosanity05
02-09-2006, 08:30 AM
"TAKitty" I’m sorry you didn’t understand my humor. I assure you I was speaking in jest. I simply meant that it’s funny to me that so many parents come on these boards to “fearfully” find out what their children are going to see on gay days. This upsets me b/c if I wanted to show ANY sort of affection to my partner at Disney I get stares, people pointing, laughing, whispering etc. Its heart breaking. Just once id like to hold Kirks hand during fireworks… oh and I mean not during the 1 weekend a year when people are nationally made aware ill be there. Speaking from a psychologists (my profession) standpoint, guarding or not exposing your children to things is what will do the real damage. Most children want to be like their parents, and learn from them. So if you explain to them (preferably without out your own prejudices) about same sex couples they will understand. Why does it have to be any more complex then “they love each other” or “sometime boys and girls fall in love, some times two boys or two girls do”. I know we live in a time where church and state are not separated (as much as they should be) and I also know that there are gay people out there who will go over board and play to the stereotype and confirm your “fears”. Understand these people are the extreme, just as there is an extreme to any group of people. Bottom line is love is love. Teach your kids about love and not about the package it comes in, and you’ll raise well adjusted loving children of your own.


Great post! My hubby and I are the parents of 3 children, 2 boys age 9 and 19, and a daughter, age 14. My fav BIL is gay, and has been with his significant other for 20 some years. They have spent a lot of time with with us, including staying in the same bedroom at our home, and babysitting our kids through the years, at their home. Their relationship, and the interactions with our family has helped to teach my kids acceptance of different lifestyles and beliefs. I don't think my kids would even notice if 2 men or 2 women were holding hands, any more than they'd notice a man and woman doing it. Its just not an issue.

disneybride2007
02-09-2006, 09:41 AM
Hi Everyone

I'm going for the first time to Gay Day with a close Gay Friend.

I'm looking forward to putting on my Red Mickey Shirt.
It's hanging in the closet (no pun), waiting to be packed.

I'm a little nervous about the crowds, so if it gets too intense I will head away from the Magic Kingdom that Saturday and head over to EPCOT !

I am staying onsite for 8 nights starting with the prior weekend, mostly at the Beach Club Villas, and a couple nights at the Villas of the Wilderness Lodge upon arrival.

I am wondering where it would be nice to dine at in the Magic Kingdom on Gay Day? Any suggestions ? I have only dined at the Crystal Palace there.


Phil

Maybe you and your friend will enjoy CRT. My hubby and I love it and the food is wonderful. Also, we love eatting at Tony's, if you get a good seating outside or near the window, you can watch the parade go by :)

Jackie

disneybride2007
02-09-2006, 09:55 AM
Speaking as "one of them" id have to say its "us" who cant stand seeing you "heteros" kissing during firworks, or holding hands while you walk down main street, or showing affection during a meal. I mean really the way nobody cares is appauling! God forbid I wanted to do that, id get every billy bob and his wife/sister making a comment while pulling their kids away. Any idea when we can go to avoid that. Oh and p.s. its DISNEY... like 70% of the company is gay ... HELLO!!!!

I have to agree with you on this one. NOBODY cares when a man and woman is kissing or showing affection at Disney. My husband and I were in AK waiting to see the Lion King Show and in line with us, was this couple that was going at it, like they were the only one's around. They were tonguing each other, he licked her neck and rubbed her behind, she was rubbing him and moaning, it was sooo offensive. We had to cover my ds's eyes, a couple of times because these two were getting out of hand and finally, my dh asked them if they could cool it because there are children in line and some pretty offended adults, as well. I just don't understand the parents that don't mind their children watching a man and a woman, tonguing each other and rubbing one another's body parts, in front of their children. But, they see a same sex couple holding hands, looking at each other with care or anything that resembles kindness or love and they over react. My BIL is gay and he and his BF is going to be in our Vow Renewal Wedding at Disney. He and his BF has more self-respect, in regards to PDA, than many of the hetero's I've seen, there.

Jackie

Mister Disney
02-09-2006, 10:00 AM
Hi Everyone

I'm going for the first time to Gay Day with a close Gay Friend.

I'm looking forward to putting on my Red Mickey Shirt.
It's hanging in the closet (no pun), waiting to be packed.

I'm a little nervous about the crowds, so if it gets too intense I will head away from the Magic Kingdom that Saturday and head over to EPCOT !

I am staying onsite for 8 nights starting with the prior weekend, mostly at the Beach Club Villas, and a couple nights at the Villas of the Wilderness Lodge upon arrival.

I am wondering where it would be nice to dine at in the Magic Kingdom on Gay Day? Any suggestions ? I have only dined at the Crystal Palace there.


Phil

Hi there Phil :wave2: :wave2: :wave2: :wave2:

We're also from the great state of Connecticut!

I've heard that Cinderella's Royal Table is a HOOT on the Saturday of Gay Day.

Crystal Palace is great too, for the views.

Get me a shoot, maybe kevin and I and you guys could meet for cocktails.

We're stay at the Grand Floridian and Mizners is a great place for an afternoon drink.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Bob

disneybride2007
02-09-2006, 10:01 AM
We are considering the first weekend of June for our next trip to WDW and I just discovered that is "gay day." I was wondering what other people's experiences were during this event. What are the crowd levels like? I'm also concerned about what my 8 year old son will see while there. I don't think we are ready for the "birds and the bees" discussion yet. What days are the parks crowded with people for gay day and what parks do they usually go to? I hope I don't offend anyone with this question, as that is certainly not my intention. I'm just trying to avoid crowds, if possible, and any uncomfortable situations with my son.

My family has gone during this time and haven't seen anything, that we don't usually see. We have, always, had a blast anytime we have gone to Disney, including during Gay Days. Actually, we are having our vow renewal ceremony at Disney, next year and our honeymoon will flow over to Gay Days, as well. You have, absolutely, nothing to worry about if you are concerned with gays/lesbians being inappropriate. We find they are there to have fun and relax, just like everyone else. However, some of our young, straight couples may leave you a little concerned about little eyes.

Have fun and really, there's no need to worry :)

Jackie

Texa
02-09-2006, 11:28 AM
I hope this is an appropriate post but I wanted to address those parents who are afraid of what their children will see if they attend Gay Days. I grew up in a very open minded house and had lots of gay friends so I never thought twice about it. (also was a theatre major in large city college, amazing time!) Later in life I married a man who was the complete opposite, including homophobic. It was the one topic we agreed to disagree on because it would send us into raging debates. I didn't realize, until our first WDW trip that DH had never really met or socialized with gay people, most of his opinion had been formed by the media. When we went to WDW, it was not during gaydays but who ever said there were a higher percentage of employees was correct, he really got to know some of the wonderful CM's as real people and not just media images created for drama. It was great. His mind was opened to acceptance. My point is, yes I do have one, that your children/family will be exposed to alternate lifestyles through media, friends, classmates, etc. For their sake, let them be taught by real people, see them laughing and having fun, taking care of their children and family. Don't let preconcieved notions or the media dictate your or another generations views on the subject.

Sorry so long!

ChrizJen
02-09-2006, 03:43 PM
I hope this is an appropriate post but I wanted to address those parents who are afraid of what their children will see if they attend Gay Days. I grew up in a very open minded house and had lots of gay friends so I never thought twice about it. (also was a theatre major in large city college, amazing time!) Later in life I married a man who was the complete opposite, including homophobic. It was the one topic we agreed to disagree on because it would send us into raging debates. I didn't realize, until our first WDW trip that DH had never really met or socialized with gay people, most of his opinion had been formed by the media. When we went to WDW, it was not during gaydays but who ever said there were a higher percentage of employees was correct, he really got to know some of the wonderful CM's as real people and not just media images created for drama. It was great. His mind was opened to acceptance. My point is, yes I do have one, that your children/family will be exposed to alternate lifestyles through media, friends, classmates, etc. For their sake, let them be taught by real people, see them laughing and having fun, taking care of their children and family. Don't let preconcieved notions or the media dictate your or another generations views on the subject.

Sorry so long!

THANK YOU!!! :cheer2:

This is the very point I tried to make in another post here earlier...SO many people who have hatred in their hearts towards homosexuals are the same people who have never even met a gay person! (or at least they are not aware that they have met them...they probably encounter gay people all the time in their daily lives and don't even know it) But if we get out there and make a point to MEET people and SHOW them that our lives and our relationships are just as committed and loving as theirs are...that the fear they have of us is unfounded and ridiculous!!! It obviosly works...your DH is living proof!!

-Christal

Blknjman
02-09-2006, 08:28 PM
Greetings!

DW and I planned our trip a few weeks ago and I just found out today that it's during GayDays. At first I thought "Cool, that's got to be more interesting than the boring Flower Show". But then I realized that there's probably not going to be anything that would spook the horses ;) . As a married couple still in love after 25 years (had our 25th Anniversary dinner at 'Ohana!!!) hand-holding and a kiss now and then are good by us, regardless of the genders involved.

In fact, if GayDays keeps away all those folks who have trouble with events like this, then that means those who ARE at WDW will be of the more-tolerant variety - always a good thing!

Be well! :hippie:
Hey DrTomorrow
Good for you and the DW - The World Disney built needs more people like you, people who Live and Let Live. :hippie:
Happy Anniversary to you. You and the DW are invited to have a drink with me to toast your Anniversary. I am staying at Disney's Yacht Club Epcot. Drop me a line: blknjman at aol

As for spooking the horses, other than the a minor event of a lad wearing a kilt (regemental style) while at the Magic Kingdom. ( Sorta dumb thing to do not wearing at least a pair of bike shorts underneath), other than that
during the day it usually tame.

"I done Disney World as a straight man, and now I do Disney World as a gay man. Do you think, "It's a small world after all", maybe Walt Disney was on to some thing :wizard:

hematite153
02-10-2006, 04:52 PM
In response to those who would choose not to go to MK or elsewhere in WDW because you want to be "cautious" and avoid PDA's from same-sex couples, I feel I must advise you that in order to be that cautious, you must avoid WDW every day. I and my wife (yes, we are legally married, and were married in our church even - we are Canadian) will hold hands and, at times, exchange a quick kiss on any day at WDW and anywhere else in the world. I know that there are some who would consider this unsympathetic to other's feelings. But I think it is no more appropriate to ask me to hide who I am (and who I love and have married) than it is to ask a biracial couple to hide their love because you don't approve of miscegenation.

It really isn't possible in this day and age to avoid all exposure to gay, lesbian or bisexual people. Much better to follow all the excellent advice offered earlier and explain "because they love each other" to your children.

I don't take offense to the question asked, which I feel was asked openly and honestly. I think that the discussion has been excellent and would like to thank previous posters for their comments. I simply feel the need to identify that same-sex PDAs are not limited to one day at WDW or anywhere else.

Viki
02-10-2006, 06:31 PM
In response to those who would choose not to go to MK or elsewhere in WDW because you want to be "cautious" and avoid PDA's from same-sex couples, I feel I must advise you that in order to be that cautious, you must avoid WDW every day. I and my wife (yes, we are legally married, and were married in our church even - we are Canadian) will hold hands and, at times, exchange a quick kiss on any day at WDW and anywhere else in the world. I know that there are some who would consider this unsympathetic to other's feelings. But I think it is no more appropriate to ask me to hide who I am (and who I love and have married) than it is to ask a biracial couple to hide their love because you don't approve of miscegenation.

It really isn't possible in this day and age to avoid all exposure to gay, lesbian or bisexual people. Much better to follow all the excellent advice offered earlier and explain "because they love each other" to your children.

I don't take offense to the question asked, which I feel was asked openly and honestly. I think that the discussion has been excellent and would like to thank previous posters for their comments. I simply feel the need to identify that same-sex PDAs are not limited to one day at WDW or anywhere else.

Oh, my. For all that I don't usually let this issue get to me - and professionally it's important that I don't because I officiate at marriages all the time - it was just so terrific to read about a legal gay marriage that's legal where you live. How wonderful.

gabbysmom04
02-13-2006, 08:48 AM
I plan on taking my family to WDW during gay days for two reasons. 1 because I want to go in June. And 2 because I never want my children to be like some of the people on this board. I want my kids to know that two women or two men that love eachother is no different then a man and a woman. As for being afraid I think people should be more afraid of the message that they are sending to their kids by keeping them away from "gay days" I agree with an earlier post why is it okay to have a hetero couple all over eachother in a park but not okay for a gay couple to show their love for eachother. I am more worried about my kids watching a father hit his kids or a husband and wife screaming at eachother then a gay couple. What do people think that there are no gay people at disney except for on gay days? Wow, this topic really gets me mad! Who knew I had so much to say? On another subjest Misterdisney, I love your posts and pics on the rest. board. Your food pics are great!

Mister Disney
02-13-2006, 08:54 AM
Misterdisney, I love your posts and pics on the rest. board. Your food pics are great!


:goodvibes Thank you for the compliment! :goodvibes

gabbysmom04
02-13-2006, 09:11 AM
Anytime! I love the pics you had of the choc. from room service! I am thinking about sending some to myself!